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“MISTER KEENAN’S” CLOSEST FRIEND IN COURT OVER ALLEGED DOMESTIC ASSAULT !

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DESMOND MC GUIRE

It is alleged that Mr Maguire assaulted his wife just before Christmas. He was arrested, brought before Glasgow Sherrif Court, remanded on bail with restrictions. Not allowed near the house, etc

His case is listed for Wednesday next at 2pm.

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We can not make any comment on the case itself as it is now in court, and of course, we must remember that everyone is presumed innocent until a court says otherwise.

HOT TUB?

Des Maguire installed a large hot tub in his back garden some time ago. It is believed that it was a regular party place for many clergy.

It appears that clergy members of the Scottish Daisy chain are very worried about what will come out.

And maybe MISTER KEENAN should stop hanging about with undertakers and estate agents?

239 replies on ““MISTER KEENAN’S” CLOSEST FRIEND IN COURT OVER ALLEGED DOMESTIC ASSAULT !”

Each of us can bite the fruit of temptation.
Priests, brothers, sisters, nuns were tempted by power. Some bit.
Today we know better than them so we are tempted with judgement, the comfort zone of hatred.
It is right to highlight the wrongs which are yet to be properly fixed. It is right to hold firm that this was wrong, for it was. But we need to tend to ourselves at the same time. Pray for those who preyed on the vulnerable – pray that they may see the error of their ways before they condemn themselves to hell. Do not enjoy the realisation of what they currently deserve.
They hang on the cross alongside Christ – some will realise the need for forgiveness, others will not. Our job is to pray they ultimately and genuinely fall into the former category.
The sheep shall be separated from the goats.

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It is unfair and terrible to come down so harshly on priests for their moral failings: Satan tempts them more severely than the rest of us. This means in reality that the Devil is behind these failings, not the priests. We should always bear this in mind, especially the victims. Victims should offer their pain for the moral improvement of these priests instead of running willy nilly to the police to report their so-called crimes.
Priests need our compassion, understanding and prayers, not our condemnation. It is sinful and cowardly to abandon priests when they are under attack by the demons.

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Absolutely howling.
However I think you’ll find Holy Scripture says God gives people to sin.
I’m sure he has a plan.

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Like you @ 8:51, I’m “howling” too. The sheer ridiculousness of comments like anon’s @ 10:36 well demonstrates the naivety combined with RC brainwashing mentality. Scapegoating Satan! Howling indeed!

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Reply to; Anonymoussays:
Feb 3, 2023 at 10:36 pm
I call that passing the buck, demons indeed!!
What a load of claptrap, “they are under attack by the demons”
Jesus wept!!
God love you, and give you a bit of sense.
No one asks that priests, nor, any other cleric or, religious order member to stay in situ, if they have difficulty in adhering to the rules of the organisation, and it appears many can’t (who can blame them?) they should have the decency to up sticks, and as in any secular occupation, if they can’t hack it, leave before being pushed, or exposed.
Or, is the lifestyle is so cushy and, they are also amongst “friends” of a feather, they hang on, and get away with pushing the boundaries for a long a possible.
If priests commit crimes, they should like the rest of us, pay the same penalty, as in sexually abusing a child, or embezzling money from their employers, or do you think prayer would suffice? I certainly don’t.
What of free will?
What is the concept of free will in Catholicism?
1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one’s OWN responsibility. By free will one shapes one’s own life.
In other words if I decide to hold up a bank, I will have thought it through, planned and, then acted. I can only imagine the Judges face if I pronounce in my defence, it was the devil and, demon that made me do the crime, I would probably end up serving my sentence a high-security psychiatric hospital such as Broadmoor England or Central Mental Hospital Ireland and be treated for my delusions.

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I’m having IT problems & tried reply that one too, QV – claptrap 😲. I thought it was tommyrot. And such a lot more – similar to your thoughts on it – it might post – don’t know 😳🧐

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I’ve tried to comment on that one too but having a bit of an I.T. problem – claptrap 😲. I’d tried tommyrot 😂. You couldn’t make it up! 🪣🤮

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10:36 it is unfair and a criminal offence for clergy and their colleagues to proactively pervert the course of justice in the interests of protecting the interests of the Roman Catholic Church above the rights of victims and survivors to justice and to regaining some level of well being.

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Exactly plus read the list of politicians who voted against redress for abuse victims and survivors in the Oireachtas in Irish Repubic yesterday.

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We are very proud of the Healy Rae family members who voted Ta/YES in favour of redress for victims and survivors of church and institutional abuse. Michael Healy Rae made several eloquent statements on the right of the child to have a happy childhood.

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Will Scotland ever have a Cardinal again?
KOB spoilt it for a generation and the Vatican view is he committed the Cardinal sin: he got caught!!!!
Elsie buried KOB but despised him – KOB was briefly a proponent of married priests funny because he was as gay as a row of tents.
He broke the first rule of the closet – he got caught.
KOB was seemingly heterosexual but as gay as the day is long!!

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JIMINIA is Bishop of Falkirk (pp) and won’t give that as he has spent a fortune on the sect Divive Renovation.
Usual for 2 PP.
Burke turned down Galloway the last time so will make may get it but again Unusual to come from same diocese.

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Pat, for all the sinful stories, sensationalist headlines, salacious accounts – it’s all in vain. The Scottish Conference of Bishops know what’s going on. They accept it. The authority of the nuncio has no teeth and, even if it did, he reports to a “Pope” in Rome who a significant proportion of the faith neither respect, recognise nor take seriously. He’s filled the college with sycophantic heretics made from his own image, and you wonder what Oscott seminarians are given the keys to parishes throughout the land.
Nothing will come of any of this. That was evident post-Despard. They rounded together and set the direction for the foreseeable.
It’s over. The Daisy Chain has won.

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Don’t be too sure. The CCSA are involved in RCDHN plus the Police have been contacted and mainstream media, including BBC have published the stories about abuse allegations. Thanks to Pat for putting this info on his blog. Its helped get it out and scrutinised – plus RCC can’t ignore the recommendations of iicsa.gov The prosecutor of the Rochdale rapists, plus a social worker and probation officer are on the CCSA team. It looks hopeful but we have to wait and see…….

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I see D’Arcy is on the radio BBC R4 tomorrow morning doing the morning service. The usual trite, naff, saccharine stuff, although he does make a pitch for women’s ordination and ordination of a whole range of people, which is valid enough. But he does sound so precious and self-satisfied. Never mind, I’m sure he will be lauded by his loving followers telling him he’s as wonderful as ever ! I’d love to hear what his CP brothers will be saying around the lunch table today, mind you !

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Leave poor Brian alone. In following his call he experienced the deep pain of renouncing marriage, as he constantly reminds us 🤣

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@1:05pm

No way, D’Arcy, “I’ll go to the opening of an envelope” should have been dealt with years ago. The fact that he’s now promoting woman’s ordination should be the final nail in his coffin. Dismiss him forthwith. If I wasn’t so fond of Patsy I’d say go to Loyal Larne with like minded people. But I wouldn’t inflict him on Patsy, he’d be worse than Big Delia.

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Bishops are ordaining well known deviants, sticking their heads in the sands by deliberately ignoring outstanding issues with serving clergy & their other volunteers who are openly abusing parishioners & others & operating in direct contravention of RCC advertised rules & ethics. The reason being these Bishops are either sexually or financially comprised or both but don’t worry, they have a fail proof plan to “fix” it all. They check Bishop Buckley’s blog 24/7 as they “believe” that “identifying and slandering victims & their advocates on here” will “serve their objective ” of “making the church “do” for their day”.

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I work in a parish in Scotland. Nominally I have c1500 parishioners. Last night at Vigil there were 16 at Mass.
To my surprise during a chat with some of them after Mass the subject of a recent ordination came up. The alleged reputation of the new priest was raised along with other matters which have featured in blogs by both yourself and Catholic Truth Scotland.
These diehard catholics said that these matters were scandalising the Faithful and these things are common knowledge among parishioners.
Today at Mass there was a congregation of 32 !!
If our hierarchy think these things aren’t affecting our people then they need to think again.
Having spoken to other clergy in the last week I’m convinced the rot in Scotland post O’Brien is now gathering pace.

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Discuss it with +Leo-Leonora. Sounds like your parish should be closed down and amalgamated with another.

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I was a weekly Mass attender here in Hamilton. Other members of my family were also Sunday mass goers.
Over the last few years all the others have fallen away. I’m sure my poor mother and father, both deceased, would be turning in their graves that we have lapsed.
However the fact that our diocese has fallen away so badly and is mired in scandal would excuse us in their eyes.
Now I’ve stopped going to mass.
I know at least 3 other families who are like ourselves. Stopped. Stopped going to mass and stopped putting our hard earned money into them.
Sorry but there are so many wrong things happening in Motherwell diocese now that i have lost pride in being a Catholic.
Thank you Bishop Toal. You are no bishop Devine (despite his faults) or Bishop Thomson

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I and my family have also decided to stay away from mass. I won’t use the term lapsed, as we feel the church, not us, have lapsed from following Christ. Every day saw a new church scandal which would even make johnson’s government blush. Our son is gay, works in finance and has a stable partner – yet the so-called “celibate” priests are having more sex than him and would condemn him. I was a eucharistic minister and committed, but the scandals have made me appreciate what’s essential and the church isn’t.

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What a lovely post, I always knew there was some good in you, I hope you keep it up. You are to young to remember those day’s that’s a pity. I remember those wonderful day’s only too well and I loved them. I’m so glad Patsy posted this article, that in itself proves it was not as bad as some would have us believe.
Evviva Maria!

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@ 9:52am
You know who once again re-posting one of my comments from long ago, which is not in context with today’s subject. I thought you’d have recognized that Patsy. Beware! I’m sure that you know who, is your informant about today’s subject and not any PP. Malicious convicted criminals don’t change.

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Well said & well done. Totally agree with you. Completely understand. Don’t know why I keep hoping some of us who stay might change things for the better but RCDHN is on the way down the pan now. Disgusting secrets, lies & cheats. Supposed to be ‘men of God’. You wonder who or what ‘called them.’

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No worries – Boris Johnson is an RC. There’s not a fag paper between him & Carrie’s ‘marriage’ at Westminster Cathedral, the Westminster iicsa.gov inquiries and the RC iicsa.gov inquiry.
Well except for the small matter that the Catholic Church preaches Christianity – just for we dreadful sinful the laity though – ‘do as I say, not as I do.’ 🤮🪣

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Pat’s review of the inadequacies of the Scottish hierarchy is spot on; a similar analysis would apply everywhere. I’m prompted then to throw a firecracker into the ring. I have been taken by the reflections and sermons available on YouTube by the American sedevacantist Bishop Donald J. Sanborn. NB I am most definitely not promoting his position. I confess to sympathy for the SSPX, but not even Bishop Williamson would go down the “no valid Pope” road. However, if you want to know what Catholics (used to ) believe, then Sanborn is illuminating. BTW I should love to hear from Pat an account of his conversation with Mgr Lefebvre.

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I endorse your tip re Bishop Sanborn whilst also baulking at sedevacantism. His learning and presentation of traditional Catholicism are awesome and most illuminating. Novus Ordo clergy do not have a clue. And BTW I’m no bigot and do attend both OF and EF Masses.

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I didn’t know Pat had had a chat with Mgr Lefebvre. That would indeed be interesting. I still kick myself for not bothering to go to see the Archbishop one wet and windy afternoon in the early nineties when he visited Salterton Road. RIP Your Excellency.

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It was the talk in Glasgow that Keenan curried favour with rich and influential catholics with an eye to them promoting his name for Ab.
The powers that be had other ideas. Thank God.

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10:56 Rich and powerful Catholics are best friends of clergy in several diocese , another good reason to boycott these corrupt lay and clerical Mafia and their self interested volunteers.

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You can tell by the cars they drive and the expensive holiday destinations and where they sneak off to the private homes of their benefactors. Others are more discreet but still in it up to their necks. Frequently unavailable for parishioners. Duty calls and poor people are definitely not the priority.

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So we then get stuck with him from here to eternity. He’s a weasel of a mine destroying a string diocese day by day.

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Maybe Rome found out about about Bishop Keenan’s connections with the Courage Apostolate which is a weird American organisation with links to gay conversion therapy.

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Dear Pat,
I alerted my diocese to inappropriate activities by a priest in N Ireland. Their response was wholly inadequate as you might have expected.
However, I am pleased to say that hate, as a weapon of the Evil One, is no longer consuming me. It might sound strange, but I feel a sense of pity for the cleric. He is obviously lost, with a lot on his mind. At first I struggled with the reality of priests and hypocrisy. Now I know it’s a fact of life for some, definitely not all.
We all have dark places we do not want to go.
I recall in the Bible where we are called to pray for our enemies; what good is there in only praying for those whom you love, and who love you?
Indeed the biggest challenge and greatest reward has been to learn, pray for the person who caused the hurt, and ultimately forgive. We are certainly not on this earth long.
Self-examination is key. It is our Christian mission to right our wrongs. If we fail, go again. The rebound is Christ at work.
Every saint has a past; every sinner a future.
Lord, grant me a loving and forgiving heart.
Amen.

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Just as well they have Larne and the likes of that aul gossip at the Orange Order style Irish Times, the other Patsy. 😒

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God bless the Orange Order, 3.18. A perpetual bulwark against Romanism, and Irish nationalism.

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Sad day for Paisley. We were hoping to get rid of all of them!
They have simply created an office of yes people and anyone that isn’t on board is in for a hard time. Wasted collections on synod, staff (more are started every week) and not addressing issues that need solved. He will be bealing, glasgow was always in his sight. His priests can’t stand him but are afraid to speak as they will get moved to a lesser parish.
Praying the Nuncio moves him out of the road to Galloway. Suppose the priests of glasgow are glad they don’t have to resign for now.

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How are the Irish Reds doing on the vocations front? Presumably people are clamouring to join Tony Flannery and the Tuxedo Priest.

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The best of luck to our Scottish brethren against the old enemy later! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏉 I hope everyone will be ready to sing with great gusto! 🎶🎵🎼
O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again…
Those Daisy Chain days are passing now
And in the past they must remain…
+Pat stood against him
Proud Bishop’s Daisy Chain army
And sent them homeward
Tae think again.

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I believe the Bishop Nolan is a lovely and prayerful man. He will try his best I am sure, but he is 68 and past normal retirement age. Why does the RCC appoint Pensioners to these posts? Bishop Nolan also has a dodgy ticker, so I hope the job doesn’t impact his health! Mr Keenan issued a short few lines yesterday offering congratulations and is clearly upset. Maybe a move to Galloway would suit him? Anyway, good luck to both of them.

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Betty Turpin was always a supporting character in The Rovers, a mere barmaid and never the landlady. She wasn’t destined for the responsibility of Glasgow.

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I want to thank my local priest who visited my father weekly for three months in the end days of his life. That pastoral visit meant so much to him and brought comfort to all of us. We don’t always see the behind the scenes with priests. The funeral mass for my father was very moving and we had opportumity to make it the celebration we wanted. Well done to our priests.

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12.25: With all due respect, Joseph, get a grip. We are entitled to share our good stories and experiences. Don’t feel threatened by such. The good news stories – of which there are many – do not diminish any other person’s negative experience. I haven’t always managed to visit parishioners in hospital…there are HOSPITAL CHAPLAINS…Joseph, grow up.

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Just a gentle reminder that when a comment appears which is wrong, offensive to a certain group or likely to cause a row, that’s usually because it’s intended to cause a row rather than make a sensible point.
The real wonder is why Pat would enable a comment insulting Scotland and managing to include an obvious deliberate mistake. Do you really want dysfunctional church dynamics to be reproduced on your blog as you call them out in the church?

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There are four parish churches in the Archdiocese of Glasgow which offer the old Mass: Bridgeton, Balornock, Dumbarton, and Toryglen. In your comment @10.35, you claim that the TLM in Glasgow was “sparsely attended”. If this was the case, then what is the need of having the TLM in four churches? The TLM will be a source of division in these parishes. What is the point of marginalising a parish of several hundred of the faithful simply to appease a few fanatics?
I first got involved with the traddy scene over a decade ago and I have witnessed a massive increase in popularity of traditionalism. I believe this is related to the increase in popularity in right-wing populist movements, such as Brexit and Trump. When I first started attending the TLM, only one priest said the old Mass in public in Glasgow. In recent times, several Glasgow priests have been seen at the Cardinal Burke Masses in Balornock. These Masses are always very well attended.
In 2018, the deranged bigot Fr Mark Morris brought disgrace upon the Catholic Church in Glasgow when he offered a public rosary, litany, and Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament for the “gross offence to which is Pride Glasgow”. This was widely reported in the national press and Fr Morris was thankfully dismissed from his role as Catholic chaplain at Glasgow Caledonian University. Archbishop Tartaglia did not punish +Morris but he should have been canonically suspended, or at the very least, put on a long ‘sabbatical’. Hopefully, the new archbishop will not tolerate any of this kind of nonsense.
I hope the new archbishop will enforce Traditionis Custodes. The archdiocese need only have one TLM on a Sunday, and it should take place at an oratory, not a parish Church. There is an oratory in Glasgow which has been supressed as a parish, and I think this would be a suitable place for the TLM.
The TLM scene in Glasgow is toxic. The number of people who attend it is irrelevant. It only takes one drop of poison to infect the whole tun of wine.

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@ 11:22am

The toxic poison has been in Glasgow and everywhere else for years, it is the NOB. Hence the reason that there is a need for TLM in so many Churches. Since aul Tarty’s time there has been a list of at least 49 parishes to close due to non attendance and the Poly’s can’t afford to run them. Bunty Nolan wont make any difference. The number of people who attend is very relevant as it is the Faithful who are very willing too pay to have the Holy Mass they want. The NOBS don’t want to pay and who can blame them. The sooner the closures start the better. Long live Sacred Tradition and down with the poly poncho wearing call me Tom Dick & Harry brigade.

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1.25

You worship an abstraction and a form. You do not worship me. You do not even know me. But I know you.

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I don’t know about Glasgow or whether you refer to the SSPX or diocesan priests. Certainly whenever I have attended SSPX masses, I have encountered a diverse, friendly and welcoming community. Should any parish have a priest a fraction of the calibre of Father Sebastian Wall at SS Margaret and Leonard in Edinburgh, they would be blessed indeed. You can attend every Sunday and Feast Day on YouTube.

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Only RC priests could be so conscienceless as to be primarily concerned that their own deeds will come out in a court case about a woman suffering domestic violence.
When they tell you they hate abuse and it’s changed, remember this: it’s only ever about the clergy.
It’s pro-cleric.

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11:25 RC is deeply misogynistic at its core. It’s women are abhorrent moles to the women’s rights movement, all in RC for self interested reasons, more wolves in sheep’s clothing.

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How can the Catholic Church be mysogynistic when it venerated a woman, Mary the Mother of Jesus? You must be confused, or hungover.

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2:17 Spot of gaslighting from you there Padre. Sure we all know you don’t practice what you preach.
Jesus wept!

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2.40
Yes, you would call me that, as did your spiritual forbears when they denounced me as Beelzebul.

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KOB once let the weirdoes from Papa Stronsay rake through old chests and drag up for a TLM at St Mary’s. Few attended but the old queen Damiam Thompson was in raptures over it.

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Having read the entries on the blog about Mr Keenan and his mothers influence I can now understand a remark made by a priest yesterday on hearing of the new appointment. ‘At least decisions on diocese matters won’t be made in Maryhill’
It all fits now.

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I would like to thank the priest who took my confession today for not asking me questions about my sins or asking me to elaborate on them. It was a welcome change.

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He doesn’t give a toss
It’s priest sauna weekend.
He has more interesting things to think about.

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What is it about clergy and undertakers? There is the case of Canon PJ Smith in Portsmouth and his older undertaker chum. I know of a case in of a priest and a married undertaker cruising together in the Thames Valley. Undertaker have their own fair share of queens too.

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1:31 Speaking of bums, where is Abbot Richard Purcell living, has he moved into Glenstal Abbey?

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He might be busy writing the Prologue for Bishop Fintan Monahans next literary offering. Abbot Purcell has previously been involved in Bishop Monahans literary career.

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Sometimes it is very easy for people to point the finger; sadly, sometimes people point their finger for the wrong reasons.
Everything we do must be considererate and not just for the benefit of ourselves but for others, too.
We shouldn’t judge without first looking at all the facts – always look at the whole picture!
“Do not judge, or you yourself will be judged…” x
Matthew 7: 1

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Pat how is this news lol.
It’s very clear that this poisonous atmosphere is engendered everywhere by the church, including among some commenters here.

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The Diocese of Opera even has norms for abusing minors in other enclaves! Which skirt niftily round bad power dynamics on the bad logic that those are “protected” affective characteristics. So desperate is it to bolster the mindset within its club.
“Don” Folci began “ecclesial studies” after he turned ten, founded some “Handmaids of Jesus Crucified” and crept up to Pius XII by invoking the name of Pius X. The shirking prelates should have been subpoenaed and the witnesses thus far absent should be given witness protection.

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On another matter: Are many of us aware that there is likely to be a new English translation of the Lectionary for use at Mass ? I’m not au fait with all the details, but neither am I very clear how this has crept up without me noticing it, given that I do take an interest in these things. I hear that one particular difference is the ditching of gender inclusive language in the new edition ? More than that, however, there does seem to be a quiet manipulative arrogance in the E&W episcopal conference to move this on and through without very much consultation or information. I guess they work on the basis that they know best, and they have the authority, and they know it all. One thing they should have realised by now is that we largely don’t think they do, judging by their lamentable and scandalous management and collusion in so much that is wrong with the Church and the clerical culture over the last decades. So, I really don’t appreciate them foisting something on me that I have not really been told about or consulted about. Who do they think they are to treat us like this ?

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I am pretty sure that he will be at the centre of it, as he was in the changes to the missal. These people do think a lot of themselves. It’s all based on that ontological change at ordination, instant wisdom they think they get, which makes them unaccountable. I’m getting fed up with the monarchical autocratic clericalised Church. I don’t want to be a Presbyterian, but there is something to be said for accountability and congregational oversight.

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Are you for real complaining about yet another edition of the Lectionary .. Just look at what was foisted on us for five decades, read Sacrosanctum Concilium The Council’s document on the Liturgy, and you’ll see what has been foisted on us. That will truly make you fart..

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Are you a Catholic Priest? If so, you seem unhappy about many things re: theology and liturgy…You criticise much. But – aren’t you a paid up member of said Church??? If so unhappy, find a freer congregation…if not presbyterianism, go to the Oratory, where anything seems to go – whatever floats your boat!!!

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I notice in articles today that Gardai are investigating incidents of abuse at Terenure College by former teachers, lay and clerical. Awful criminal behaviour. I remember at my school in the late 60’s, early 70’s encountering some cruel and bullying teachers that terrorised us and left scars, emotionally and mentally. All layvstaff, sadly. I hope all victims/survivors fund justice. I’m never sure if my abuse and that of others affected us in relationships or finding inner contentment in life. I often feel the abuse and that by a neighbour left scars…

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Neighbours can be very dangerous people particularly those with close links to church. They leave more than scars whenever they can. Be very careful of church laity staff and volunteers or anyone with a job in church run schools. All compromised and benefitting from the connection.

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9:27 What went on in Terenure College is yet another story if heartbreaking cruelty and abuse. Bishop Pat Buckley and his supporters pray for them and will help them where they can.

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When are the hierarchy and their priests going to repent for putting themselves, power, money and reputation (now shot) before the gospel ? Why was Christs warning about harming children,little ones, ignored, while, thou art peter so exhaled? Why are survivors traumatized,ignored and lied to by bishops when they come forward to report abuse?
Ratizinger claimed there was no forgiveness without justice. More f******* rhetoric.
Walking contradictions, the lot of you!
No wonder bonking by priests is no problem at any clerical rank.
But shush, say nothing, don’t let on to the laity. What they don’t know won’t hurt them.
Right bishop!

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These men put their institution, the ontological fraternity, power, money, status and reputation before children and vulnerable adults, lives deemed of lesser value than clerical rapists: a perversion of the gospel. If these people and their employees were/are willing to cover-up such crime, what else is covered up? Liberal, moderate or conservative means f*** all!
Toxic bunch, if ever.

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It’s already been a good day on the blog. All the Cathbots and priests have been floundering like beached whales, while their former lord and master, the odious ex-Nazi and protector of kiddie-fiddling priests, has been made to look exactly as he behaved…RIDICULOUS.
Aye. It’s been a good day on the blog.😊

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Given all we already know about the corruption and criminality, even the sexual psychopathy of the institutional RCC, these matters are pointless while there remains even the remotest semblance of priesthood in the Church. Where there is priesthood there is both the rationaae and the structure for the exercise of power. And where power is exercised by human beings, it will be corrupted by human ego and ambition, and driven often by human self-aggrandisement, including the desire for sexual satiation.

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You have to resort to gas-lighting while playing the amateur shrink.
You have to attack the man, as usual. So Christlike.
Speaking of shrinks, the next major Nationwide public inquiry needs to be into psychiatric hospitals run by catholic religious orders, including private, public or part publicly funded hospitals. Human rights abuses galore will be uncovered.

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The clergy and their groupies are remarkably quiet today lol 😂 and it can’t be because they’re all on the golf course or in the sauna after their strenuous day yesterday. Could it be because their only defense when faced with the truth is to have a go at Pat?

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The Gardaí are mostly untrustworthy idiots and lazy, back of the classroom types.. There are some good ones too though but I’d imagine the RCC is far too sharp for that lot for various reasons. You’ll need someone dependable to sort the church I’m afraid.

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Can you provide authentic sources to support the veracity of your contentions? For example, when you say ‘mostly’, what percentage are you using and from what authority?

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The Gardaí turned a blind eye to church related abuse for years.
Read the various reports of inquiries into clerical abuse.

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They also turned a blind eye to Irish-republican death squads, allowing them free access across the NI border to murder men, women, and children.
Shame on the ROI!

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9:39 we’ve never had much to do with the Gardai but they’ve always been helpful when others have given us reason to contact them for their help. They also have to deal with being gaslighted and misled by the Roman Catholic wolves in sheep’s clothing and their cohorts.

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There is an old story told about the former miners leader Mick McGahey.
The local priest came to his door and upon being opened the priest asked McGahey ‘’ Is this a catholic house?”
‘’No it’s not. It’s a council house and my weans are all grown up and away!”
‘Nuf said.

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9:49 McGahey was a very wise man, well ahead of his time. One doesn’t need to have a third level education to spot a mendacious con artist in sheep’s clothing.

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Phonsie is advertising a faith development workers position in his diocese. What’s a faith development worker? We’ve had Catholicism coming out our ears for generations but he seems to think the faith still needs development. Maybe the Vatican needs to employ lay faith development workers.

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The Vatican needs to divest itself OF itself. And to dismantle, forever, the entire apparatus of priesthood.
Jesus did not intend a priesthood in any way, shape, or form

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Your language is most unchristian.
You have been warned before about your posts on this blog.
Time is running out for you, and you are not right with God.
Have a care: your immortal soul is in peril.

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John Keenan, Robert Byrne and Tom Deenihan should never have been appointed to episcopal office. There are people reading this blog today with information that will smoke John Keenan and Tom Deenihan out of their episcopal offices. These people must find the courage to come forward, even if through discreet anonymous communication channels, to bring the scandalous information forward to Pat.

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How could anyone link this enforced drudgery and shaming with the Nazarene?
This is what happens when you allow the Church of Rome hegemony; this, and so very much else.
ALWAYS beware the Church of Rome, and her obedient, bloodsucking servants. Ultimately, they all will do evil’s bidding, because the institution they serve is not of Christ.

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All our stories touch on the same issues of unrestrained use of power and authority over the People of God (which these poor people most certainly were), and the arbitrary and unaccountable use of that power and authority by those who were part of the instiutuonalised and clericalised Church that we were talking about yesterday. Not only was the original sin of abuse allowed to flourish by the institution, but even when called out the institution did not / does not ask itself the fundamental systemic questions about why and how, and even more importantly what to do to ensure that there is healing and this never happens again. The initial response was to minimise, to deny, and then to cover up, thus leaving unchallenged and unchanged the underpinning theology, thinking, mindset and structures that were the foundations and framework on which abuse and clerical dysfunction flourished. I think that we are still at the stage. All we hear are the occasional formulaic words of concern (which Bishops now seem to learn by rote), the belated action to remove priests from ministry (whereas before they were just moved around the chessboard and facilitated in their ongoing abuse), and a requirement that such things are now reported to the secular authorities (belatedly imposed on the Church, kicking and screaming, and which is still frustrated by opposition to the removal of the statute of limitations, legal avenues, financial settlements etc.). All of this suggests to me that the institutionalised and clericalised Church is incapable of learning any lessons and of any fundamental change, so invested are they in the status quo and so ingrained are centuries of this culture and theology that they are likely incapable of change. This rotten culture is still being taught subliminally to the next generations of clerics in seminaries. So, it will be more of the same under that management. From where, then, will change come ? In the meantime, I have distanced myself from the Church I have described, physically and financially. I do not want to have anything to do with such a Church, which is toxic and dangerous to the health and wellbeing of me and so many others. I will find my spiritual sustenance elsewhere, until such time as I see the Church in to which I was born and raised take a serious and long look at itself and commit to fundamental change.

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This is an accurate description of the sad state of the Church and a true reflection of why so many previously faithful people are thinking for themselves and no longer “going to or supporting” their parish. They haven’t lost faith in God but are completely disillusioned and ashamed of their ministers. Power over people has been the rule. People are throwing off that mantle and thinking for themselves. Priests are redundant in modern life.

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Excellent comment. Thank you for putting my feelings into words. I’m still a parishioner ( cradle RC) – I have no idea why – on one level – I stay. To worship The – I believe in, God’s Son & The Holy Spirit and from where I sit – the many decent, striving other bros & sisters who I’m privileged to have been ‘sent’ to worship God with. No elitism, no clericalism. They bring the outside world of Love and Grace into ‘God’s House’. Its rarely the other way on. That’s not the Way it should be, is it ? Its not. .

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Jesus alone brings true comfort. Plus, it is undeniable that the presence of a bishop in these victims lives will always link them to their suffering – regardless of the bishop’s action.

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What utter nonsense. You obviously have no knowledge apart from hasty speculation. Please refrain from this misleading clap-trap.

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Glasgow is Hugh Gilbert. How many more times do you have to be told about that certainty. For goodness sake read and take note. Westminster is rather more tricky but Bernard Longley is number one at the moment and very likely to remain so. Longley, remember the name, preventing you from having to ask once again on here.

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Cushley is a shoein for Glasgow. Gilbert then to Edinburgh. After that a red hat for Glasgow .
Easy peesy

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Peeps, let’s all live and move in the real world. Leave the make-believe and the let’s pretend to the clerical classes. Their individual and institutional cognitive dissonance assists them in their making sense of the abject abuse in the RC organisation. Now their minds’ can settle and latch onto a fake sense of “all is well.” Nonsense!

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God how pompous some clergy are, kindly refrain from this, faux that, phone for the fish knives Norman.

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Sadly I’m no stranger either to rudeness or impertinence, a bedfellow with shame to be sure and at times, I confess, less than honourable, however my gog is truly aghast at your ‘revealed information’ is that similar to ‘revealed truth’ – i fear not, simply clerical tittle tattle masquerading as divine revelation!!

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McQuaid belonged to a world of institutional Roman Catholicism that I did not know, and would not wish to know. It is, to me, a past which indeed is a foreign country, where things were done very differently. At least, some things. But others never change: the capacity for human warmth, compassion, kindness, a sense of pioneering leadership in social justice. These are qualities which, from Bishop Pat’s character sketch of the man, marked out John Charles McQuaid and which, despite the autocratic and authoritarian Church era, might nevertheless have endeared me to him in much the same way as it drew Pat.

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Sounds like a nice man. I wonder if he covered up abuse or sent child
molesting Priests from Parish to Parish?

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No you are the ignoramus, despite what has happened in Patsy’s life he has at least the character and honesty to tell the truth about this magnificent Prelate. His positives far outweigh his negatives.

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Well done Pat. A balanced picture is always welcome. Expose the bad (you are excellent), celebrate the good (you have done well today). Life is not black and white.

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Control and dictate morals? How disgusting we don’t want anybody telling us what’s right and wrong , life in Ireland now is fantastic it’s diverse and gay and abortion friendly we are the ones saying what’s right and what’s wrong and what we want is to be like all the other amazing countries in Europe but with even more diversity and migrants. Ireland’ historical emphasis on Christianity and the family was exactly like Hitler’s dream of a master race, the brainwashing the executions, there’s even people today who still belive in family life and moral conduct they need reporting

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The Derry Diocese uses retired priests to plug the gaping whole in their full time clergy numbers, which is shrinking every year.
St Eugene’s Cathedral in the city is a prime example, where three ancient men who are retired priests continue to help the TWO and I say again just TWO full time parish clergy in residence for the cathedral at celebrating masses and hearing confession.
Fr Irwin should have been given a 2nd chance, and allowed to celebrate Mass publicly. How many bishops have permitted paedophile priests to continue celebrate mass etc, knowing their litany of abuse? Many it seems.
The hypocrisy in this case just stinks. Jesus was a man of 2nd chances for everyone. “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. However in McKeown’s mind, out of sight, out of mind is what is needed – e.g. Brendan Collins.

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Bishop, lift the ban. Let an elderly priest say his mass. My God, when you see how many bishops worldwide protected dangerous clergy ! A bit of compassion, balance and proportionality are in order.

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Pat, goid luck in all your work as a freelance, independent priest. But don’t for a moment forget that those many priests who remain in the Catholic presbyterate carry out very wonderful ministries of care, mercy and compassion. Their work brings them into contact with some of the most marginalised, hurt and wounded. We shoukd give acknowledgement to their great ministry too. There’s something a little too congratulatory about telling us frequently about “how great thou art”!!!!! Not Christ like…..

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Well, I know a priest (religious Order man) who had a gambling addiction, stole money from the parish he was in, got found out, something seems to have been ‘arranged’, no prosecution, and then a few years later his Order elected him Provincial ! And, some years still later he’s been given a second bite of the cherry as Provincial. So, how does that figure ?! I guess if it has been me or you, laypeople, the Police would have been involved, there would have been public accounting, and in all likelihood serious consequences like a conviction, prison, and most certainly loss of job. What is good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander ? No ? So, it seems to me that this Fr (and he’s lucky he’s still able to call himself Father !) should count himself fortunate and let sleeping dogs lie and stop drawing attention to himself. It can only turn our worse for him, I think, having this name dragged all over the press and internet again, and forcing his Bishop to discipline him. He’s asking for trouble. Silly man. And silly people encouraging him to put his head above the parapet.

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Sounds familiar. But, I’m not sure it’s the case I know about which took place abroad. I suspect it happens all the time. I think the addiction thing is used as a very effective defence, but in the real world there are still serious consequences, and being allowed to continue and being allowed to be promoted to leadership isn’t the norm. As it seems to be in the RCC.

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RC finances, a Down Recorder letter y/day informs us that Crossgar Community Centre and 60 place car park is now up for sale by Down & C diocese as PP claims diocese cannot afford to pay it’s rates and electricity costs. As a sale would deprive village of much needed community resource a public meeting is proposed by concerned villagers.
This mirrors the D&C sell off of redundant Newcastle school to Lidl by reneging on promise to sell to local council for much needed leisure centre.
Cash is king for Treanor’s bling!

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Is D & C where your bishop got reverse parachuted out of it? If so this is proof that it is by arrangement with the “squeaky clean” next occupant. In more proper times, diocesan administrators of a vacant see weren’t allowed to do anything of the kind. Isn’t your metropolitan ensuring good order?

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The problem is the number of clerics who were wolves in sheep’s clothing, who devoured many lambs in their care, were then protected by their bishops, and moved to different pastures, wreaking more havoc on the innocent and their unsuspecting parents.
Catholic bishops, priests and the faithful should be on their knees in repentance for the abominations committed by the institutional church.

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3:06
Legal action is easier said than done. It’s very costly plus the difficulty of finding a solicitor who can be trusted. The RCC has huge financial resources as well as access to expense legal advisers.

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You are quite right about certain pps Pat. Our PP is well known for it. We were hoping he would be moved during the recent diocesan moves. He is colloquially known as Fr easyJet as he takes more holidays than any family in the parish. A man who would get in where the wind could . Sticks his nose into everything and tries to control our parish primary school. Also likes to speed a lot in his car. Definitely not a good example to parishoners. But there again old ex bishop bling doesn’t give a toss and I’m sure McKeown won’t either

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Our priest is living a double life, calls to mind a situation where there is a priest who does not reside in his parish but lives with his male “partner” outside the parish.
This priest is well known to be actively gay and is on the scene.
The issue for people is not so much his being homosexual but that the man is a nasty piece of work.
He is spiteful and mean to many of the people in the parish he is supposed to be taking care of. He has “favourites” and some “fans” but the general consensus is that he is not a good priest.
He serves himself entirely – not the parishioners. Everything has to suit his agenda, his needs, his wants. If it doesn’t suit him then it’s non negotiable.
I repeat, it’s not his sexual proclivities that are the problem. It’s his manner, his lack of commitment to his vocation. He’s not a true priest. He’s fulfilling a role and he’s entirely suiting himself.
It strikes me that a priest who can subvert even God to accommodate his whims and his own will, is quite capable of anything – of putting himself first in absolutely everything.

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Yes, we read what he prints. Disgusting. 🤮 as are those that type it for him. No moral compass whatsoever and deeply compromised.

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Down and Connor are minted. How many millions are they getting for the land that St Pats boys home was on? Their chief executive (an accountant) has been instructed to sell sell sell. They can smell the money. They are all complete gobshite living off the backs of the faithful. Mind you they probably need a few quid for his expensive wine collection. People need to wise up and stop putting money on the plates. Treanor got a healthy per cent age of everything to run his empire and keep him living in splendour. Give them nothing

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Greeting all from the man with his Black Bush at hand and sat in my big chair. (I’m aware of the time 10:10)
And so we have another Catholic Church anomaly.
If the Mass is the greatest prayer anyone can offer and a bishop is charged with the salvation of souls why oh why would a bishop prevent any priest saying mass?
Think of the church’s favourite line that it’s a church of the wounded and broken but a forgiving church nevertheless. This is the spin used when some naughty priest has been caught at some sexual shenanigans or other as they are reinstated to full ministry.
Further evidence on a localised basis, if any more is needed, that the whole thing is a man made sham and rotten.
Anyway must settle down now and watch Sky News.

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Good to see you back Dalriada D.
Indeed, the ‘whole thing is a man made sham’. And it’s certainly rotten, ….to the core.
MMM

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12:43
What can definitely be considered a man made sham is Social Work. It’s a middle class ideology with middle class do-gooder values. Social workers earn their livelihoods off the backs of marginalized groups or classes by intervening on behalf of the State as agents of social control.

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12.43: Since your demise MMM last year, you must surely, by.niw, be rotting to the core to worms delights!!

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The CHURCH is instituted of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and was done so at THE LAST SUPPER by him when he did ONLY to the APOSTLES do this in memory of me. And so he created the office of BISHOP, because it was only to these men that he commented to break bread and drink wine, not to others. The office of BISHOP and PRIEST was created and instituted in those divine moments. You can read it in the GOSPELS.

Hence your claim that the CHURCH is a man-made affair is provable nonsense.

Deo gratis

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The gap between what many profess to believe and how they actually behave is staggering.
Feet of clay, hearts of stone and ongoing quenching of the Holy Spirit!

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During early Sept I was in Derry for 3 days and went to mass in St. Eugene’s which was celebrated by Bishoo McKeown. We found it a l8vely, welcoming experience and the Bishop net parishioners after mass. We chatted with him and found him to be very pleasant, affable and friendly. We also heard from Derry people whom we met that this Bishop, the one you call an a…..e is very much liked and respected by the people. He walks through the city frequently and cgats to all whim ge neets. Stop your silly imnaturity Pat. Grow up, you jealous fool.

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+ Pat – I despair ! It seems that no matter what you or I do, the hierarchs of the Church will continue on their merry way and ignore anything that is put before them. They are showing distain for the truth. I suppose it is no surprise, for they will have been observing the antics of the likes of Trump – ignore, deny, lie, coverup. They are brazen, they know exactly what they are doing, and they know that they will get away with it. At least so far. So, sadly, I am not hopeful that there will be much movement, but I do encourage you to keep up the pressure. My hope is that this will be taken up by an organisation / media that has more coverage than you and your blog, and that it will suddenly hit them. In the meantime, we need you to keep the flame burning. Keep the spotlight on them and call them out.

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Emmanuel Petit, who died yesterday, adhered to the old journalistic adage that news is something that someone, somewhere, would prefer to have covered up and all the rest is just free advertising.

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10:22 it’s extremely concerning to note how far clergy and cohorts go to cover up the truth. Religion is clearly an extremely lucrative business for clergy and laity.

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I suggest we move back to more entertaining times, when we had the delights of Rory, and Gorgeous, and Dean Kennedy, and…..well, you know, the whole cast of minor miscreants, entertaining antics both on and off the altar. It was such an innocent time and we enjoyed ourselves reading all about it……

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These clergy junkets never achieve anything save a large bill for business class flights, wining and dining, fancy hotels and so on. How often is Vincent for one on the plane to Rome, and what good has ever come out of his trips? In this particular case no way can the bishops be trusted to police themselves, as the McCarrick fiasco has made screamingly clear. As in the mishandling of cases at Downside and Ampleforth, only an independent inquiry can get at the truth and force change. I have never been able to stomach Rome since being propositioned as a bright-eyed student in St Peter’s itself by an oily cleric.

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We should all live according to our consciences, and make decisions for ourselves in conscience. Who said that a rules based system necessarily leads to a happy and productive life, where we can share love and joy ? For most people, it leads to quiet misery, imposed by those who tell us what to do, but so often do not live it themselves. I believe that in Ireland nowadays faithful Catholics make up their own mind. They listen to the Church, but it is only one voice speaking to them. They will not be dictated to by a discredited Church and its voices that has been shown to be thoroughly corrupt and rotten. They balance what they hear from the Church along with all sorts of other voices, including their conscience and God speaking to them. And then they make up their mind. Sounds a pretty healthy way of living to me, rather than the rules, fear, directives of a pile of men who are up to all sorts of nonsense themselves. So, in all those areas you mention – contraception, pregnancy and more, including sexuality, people will make up their own minds, and so they should.

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Francis picked retired Vatican spin doctor Federico Lombardi SJ as the moderator of the plenary sessions at the February talking shop.
The last thing this issue needs is a skilled question dodger, media manipulator and Vatican insider such as Lombardi. But once again, Francis is tin-eared on the usual. He has promoted and enabled deeply suspect people and is a verbal abuser of victims.
With Francis, just expect business as usual.

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Bp Pat, when will you start investigating Cloyne? It is a mess. Priests on loan, priests on further studies, priests on leave. They are burying their heads in the sand and morale is rock bottom. There is a big gay problem with clergy here and some are in well known relationships. This stems, I’m afraid, from the Magee era and it was said at that time he would accept anyone with two legs for the Priesthood.

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10:28 There is a big gay clergy issue in several Irish diocese along with financial corruption and other matters that are being investigated here and elsewhere.

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I suspect that homosexuality is not of itself the problem, but rather the most conspicuous and damaging manifestation of the cognitive dissonance which is at the heart and root of the clergy. The Church is in crisis because of a clerical establishment no longer fit for purpose. But the Church is bigger than the clergy, and the kingdom of God bigger than the Church. The old order changes: is that such a bad thing? Even Andrew Sullivan could not resist finding priests who are still “heroes”. We don’t need saints or knights in shining armour, just men and women of integrity.

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You are fooling yourself if you believe that Jesus’ love for John may have involved sex between them.
Jesus was true to the Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible), and it not only condemned same-sex sex, but permitted sex only within the bounds of Jewish marriage. Marriage between men was not permitted in Judaism. If you don’t know any of this, then your knowledge of the Hebrew Bible is not what it should be.

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7.26
Except the TaNaK didn’t exist at the time of Jesus. Anachronistic comment.

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1.26

A silly comment. It’s like saying that water was a pure element until it was discovered that it actually compriised two elements itself, hydrogen and oxygen.

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There is a far deeper spiritual and moral malaise in the institutional Church than sexual deviancy (though, sexual deviancy is undoubtedly related to it), and its allure to the priesthood, entirely unspiritual, is irresistible to certain gay (and some straight) personalities. Its priestly expression coincides exactly with how you describe too many priests, these (and past) days: nasty, corrupt, uncaring, unjust, exploitative, privileged, entitled, and so lamentably on.
The model of discipleship on which Jesus insisted is not the model of priesthood the Church has generally experinced over the centuries; this appeals not to any spiritual longing, but to a worldly mindset emboding the negatve personal qualities listed above, and much else besides. This, quintessentially, is clericalism. And it is as far removed, conceptually and practically, from Jesus’ teaching on discipleship as the institutional Church’s traditional doctrine on the death penalty was from Christ’s command to love of enemy.
Roman Catholic priests need to unlearn priesthood, if the institutional circumstance of clericalism (and the overwhelming temtation to pluck its fruits) is to be countered. This would involve the model of ministry evident in the early Church: most priests should be in paid employment, and rent or own their homes. This would free them from financial dependency on their dioceses, and free their consciences to challenge, if necessary, episcopal directives. It is entirely notional that a priest can have ‘the smell of the sheep’ about him, unless he lives as one of them.
Unfortunately for the wider Church, such essential reforms will never be enacted without consistent public pressure, principally from the media, but also from lay Catholics. Historically, a corrupt clergy is a self-contented and lazy clergy, and moral regeneration has always been resisted by them, sometimes to the point even of attempted murder.
If the wider Church is, at long last, hopeful of seeing the white smoke of institutional transformation emerge from February’s crucial meeting in Rome of the heads of bishops’ conferences, it is almost certainly destined to be bitterly disappointed, yet again, by a gathering of old men, set in their traditional ways, who not only lack the desire to tackle the moral and spiritual gravity at the heart of Church life, but who are in denial that it even exists.
With Pope Francis’ publicly disclosed belief that the current criticism of bishops (both for their handling of reports of child-sexual abuse by priests and their personal involvement in this criminality) is satanically inspired, a sense of victimhood will oppress this gathering, and put it on a defensive footing, much as it did their predecessors during the Counter-Reformation. A historical, and seminal, oppurtunity for moral regeneration (for collective rejuvenation and recovery) was lost then through an unentitled sense of victimhood, and it will, predictably, be lost in February’s meeting in Rome.

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I simply assume that the majority of priests I meet or know are gay. That’s my default position. I am rarely wrong !
In my own life, many decades ago I decided that celibacy was an intolerable and impossible imposition on my priesthood, undertaken in part coercively and unknowingly, and so I did not after some consideration feel that it was something I was necessarily bound to. That did not mean that I threw it completely overboard, and was always careful to have a respect for my sexuality and the dignity of others, certainly physically. But, in terms of emotional and affective involvement, I made sure that I had very deep and intense relationships with other men, and eventually with a partner, so that I could live a life that was reasonably happy, stable, emotionally grounded and at the same time a life of ministry. For me it has worked.
Through all of this, I simply allowed whatever current agendas in the Church about homosexuals and who we are and what we get up to, to slip off my back. I simply didn’t listen. Why should I, when most of the awful stuff coming out of the mouths of those who condemned me and other gay priests, was most likely transferred self-hatred and loathing on the part of the those who spouted hatred and negativism about gays ?
I have refused to listen to and to be affected by negative voices within the Church about my sexuality. For me, it is a matter between me and God, and between me and those I love.
So, Benedict, Francis, bishops, right wing militant traditionalist groups – butt out ! What you think and what you say is irrelevant to me. I will make my own decisions about how I live my life and live my priesthood. You have shown yourselves in so many way unworthy of being believed or listened to. Say what you want, it will have no effect on me. I am here to stay. And so are thousands more gay priests, who keep the Church running. Get used to it. Get over it.

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Response to arrogant lazy Roman Catholic priests who expect public to pay for their gay lifestyle when all they have to do is go get a paid job because church funds are needed to repay victims & survivors of church related abuse.says:

We are so well over it, Father so get a job in the real world Fr. as you obviously have too much time on your hands that you spend on this blog as no one outside your “friends with benefits” cronies are subscribing to your corrupt church.

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10.33: Brendan, this is an excellent reflective comment. I’m surprised Pat is not condemning your “hypocrisy” as he undoubtedly will define it.. You, a priest, who took a public vow of celibacy, yet living a gay relationship. Pat describes men like you (mature good human beings) as hypocrites and should get out of priesthood. Brendan, keep ignoring THESE hypocrites who shout at you. May you continue to find intimacy, contentment and fulfilment in your relationship. In certain that the integrity of your relationship is a wonderful accompaniment to your life as a priest. The nasty, ugly bigots and begrudgers – go to hell. Get lost!!

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‘undertaken in part coercively and unknowingly’
And they wonder why everyone else assumes every priest he meets is a liar. 😂

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Priesthood must be one of the few jobs where one can operate in total contradiction to the published ethos, values and rules of the organisational CEO. Have you discussed your personal situation with your superiors or they with you?

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10:51 As long as you fail to redress victims and survivors of church related abuse, you will continue to be the subject of ongoing and intense international scrutiny so wise up Padre and smell the coffee if your own s***** hasn’t completely overwhelmed you.

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As someone who was abused over a one-year period, I am shocked that an accused abuser might interview me. I feel in the cases of flimsy evidence and proven false accusations there has to be some opportunity for the accused to express concerns and speak his/her truth, but only in the rarest of circumstances. I have seen the devestation caused to individuals falsely accused. It is as horrible as being abused.

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I am sure the undertaker just viewed hanging out with clergy as business development. It reminds me of the 1994 Film ‘Priest’ where an undertaker tried to court the priest’s favour by gifting a bottle of whisky.
It’s Amazing that almost 30 years ago, when that film came out, there was an uproar about a priest having gay sex and protests outside cinemas. Now it has become the norm.

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Is that the film with Linus Roache as the poof priest, and Robert Carlyle as his bottom? It never made it to the Box Office, it was strictly a TV movie.

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It was in the cinema. I went to see it In Birmingham when at Oscott. Yes, the liberal priest sleeping with the housekeeper and the young traditional priest seeking promiscuous gay sex. It was prophetic.

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I remember it . It was a brilliant film. And heartbreaking too. I remember his PP ,who was sleeping with the housekeeper, telling him that God had more important things to worry Him than what men did with their d***s

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It was on general cinema release. I saw it in 1995 in Limerick.

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Sadly so many Bishops are cynical and uncaring corporate types. It’s a complete mystery why they chose a career in the allegedly celibate Roman Catholic Church when many of them are in sexual relationships with clergy and church laity. They must be addicted to the thrill of dangerous living. After all, they are clearly unsuited to clerical life in every respect so the six million dollar question has to be “What’s in it for them”?

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12:03 Handy money they’d struggle to earn in real world of work production targets, free, non committed sex with a wide variety of willing and unwilling others in seminaries and afterwards in parishes, networking at high level opportunities to influence outcomes in lucrative corruption deals, use criminal classes for intimidation of whistleblowers and so on and so on. What’s not to like if you’re that type to start with. The apple never falls far from the tree.

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12.03
They are completely suited to clerical life. You have idealised clerical life. Come down to earth.

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I am amazed to find out that a drug now exists to prevent transmission of HIV – Prep. Did you know about this Pat? You can even buy it online and it’s not even that dear.

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Something similar has been around since the year dot…called abstinence and chastity.

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Ongoing medication following infection reduces the virus levels to undetectable and therefore untransmittable (U=U). Pre-exposure prophylactic provides an extra barrier to infection by making it extremely difficult for any virus that might be transmitted to take hold. Put them together and there is not going to be any transmission. Post exposure prophylactic, if taken in time, is very successful at stopping any transmission. So, it makes sense. I would most certainly be taking pre-exposure prophylactic if I were 30 years young and out and about and active. Of course, there are lots of other things out there that can be devastating, such as Hep B and C, syphilis, gonorrhoea, unitary tract infections, public lice etc, which are easily contracted through any sexual contact and unprotected sex. It’s a tricky space to be playing in.

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Phonsie’s vocations video has gone down like a fart in a spacesuit. Well done, Phonsie!

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1:02 Bishops “go it alone” and “with others” to enable “endangerment”, vocations is just one of their Bishop led “activities” in the Roman Catholic Church.

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Bishop Phonsie Tempting recruits to Walking the Blood Stained Road of the Satanic RCCsays:

Shame on Bishop Phonsie and his colleagues – this is simply Unscrupulous snaring of recruits to walk the road of Satan in selling their soul to the RC evil church synonymous internationally with unresolved abuse and ongoing cover up. Blood on their hands.

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You have rattled some dangerous cages there, Patsy. More evidence to follow.

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Pat just to let you know that Robert Nugent has featured you on the beginning of his latest live YouTube video. He has broadcast your encounter with the street preachers in Larne

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6 KEY DETAILS IN THE NEW REPORT ON JEAN VANIER’S ABUSE
PARIS (FRANCE)
Sojourners [Washington, DC]
February 3, 2023
By Mitchell Atencio and Betsy Shirley.
“Earlier this week, a commission of French scholars released the results of their two-year investigation, nearly 900 pages of information, on sexual and spiritual abuse by Jean Vanier, his mentor Thomas Philippe, and their mystical-sexual sect that played a role in the founding of L’Arche, a worldwide organization that supports people with intellectual disabilities.
The report includes historical, sociological, psychological, theological, and religious analysis, drawing from more than 200 hours of interviews and numerous documents from the archives of two L’Arche communities,
L’ Arche International, the French Dominicans, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, Vanier’s personal archives, and more.”
https://sojo.net/articles/6-key-details-new-report-jean-vanier-s-abuse

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Woody Woodpecker won’t have anywhere to live when the trees at St Flannans College are removed if planning is granted.

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Bishop Phonsie was popular with some in Limerick Institute of Technology.
It wasn’t all fire and brimstone.

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I’ve known Bishop Keenan from his time as a curate in our parish (which also features indirectly in your post today). He was a nice lad then and I dare say still is. The problem was that he should never have been appointed a bishop or at least not WHEN he was. He was pushed by a small but very vocal fan-base around Glasgow Uni and touted as a vocations dynamo. So far there’s been little evidence of that. All the ordinations in his time as bishop in Paisley were recruited before his appointment to Paisley and he currently has (correct me if I’m wrong) only one seminarian on the books. Not quite living up to the hype.
Bring a bishop these days is a tough job – I don’t doubt that – but I think but from what I hear it sounds as though Bishop Keenan is running out of road a little. Morale seems very low among the clergy and his only response to pressing challenges is to throw a rosary at it.
The late Bishop Mone of Paisley (who married my wife and I 40 years ago this year when he was still Fr Mone) often told the tale of being mistaken for his brother who was also a priest. ‘It was you who should have been made up (to be a bishop) not your brother’! I think many feel the same about the two priestly vocations in the Keenan family. Sadly, well, not for him, the more pastorally gifted brother opted for marriage. I hope he is happy too but I can’t imagine his wee brother is just now.

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Not just in your post, but can’t help think Keenan is getting quite an unnecessarily raw deal against the context of this particular update.

Valid opinions on his tenure as Bishop they may be, he’s done nothing wrong here. He can’t be accountable for the alleged actions of his friends.

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Sorry, I wasn’t saying that he should be responsible for the alleged mistakes of his friends. I do think we should normalise for bishops who are struggling to be able to step down without fuss. I (sort of) retired when I was 59!

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Is now in the capable hands of

Bishop Ger Nash

Former Diocesan Secretary, Diocese of Killaloe

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Anonymous @5-04
Your post is worthy of further comment but I will leave that until later next week.

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Be interested in what you have to say, Seamus. I’m not a big defender of Keenan, but my personal view is that he’s getting a raw deal out of this particular episode, unfairly. As others have said, he’s a good man at heart and I’m sure will be so unsettled by all of this.

Not expecting much in the next week personally, though the sooner everyone can move on the better.

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Controlling clerics surround themselves with carefully selected jealous types with serious form and issues. Thieves cannot afford to fall out. Simples.

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In these changing times and in view of the ongoing listings of priests such as Fr Jerry Carey, School Chaplain Colaiste Mhuire on Bishops staff list, St Flannans College for this and other reasons is a more popular and appropriate option for local students. Therefore we support the public statements made by the staff, teachers and local residents in objecting to the Bishop of Killaloe, Fintan Monahan selling school land at St Flannans College that is required for the future and proven requirements at St Flannans College. Local residents also have lodged objections as this is a valuable local amenity in an already dense urban area and there are environmental considerations as the project if approved will result in the removal of valuable heritage trees that are irreplaceable.

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When a toxic person can no longer control you, they will try to control how others see you. The misinformation will feel unfair, but stay above it, trusting that other people will eventually see the
TRUTH, just like you did! Keep Safe. X

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SEXUAL ABUSE IN THE PORTUGUESE CATHOLIC CHURCH REACHED ‘EPIC PROPORTIONS’
LISBON (PORTUGAL)
Euronews [Lyon, France]
February 3, 2023
By Filipa Soares

“On February 13, the final report of the Independent Commission for the Study of Sexual Abuse in the Portuguese Catholic Church will be released.
In October, the commission had already validated testimony from 424 witnesses, but most had already expired in legal terms.
However, Pedro Strecht, President of the Independent Commission for the Study of Sexual Abuse in the Portuguese Catholic Church, says what they have is compelling: “The witness reports present a lot of identical information, a fact that reinforces the consistency of the testimonies and outlines serious situations existing over decades that become more evident the further you go back in time, and in some places, they assumed truly endemic proportions.”

“….taking the experience of other countries and what we are learning about reality, these figures will increase over the next few months”
Ricardo Barroso
Psychologist and researcher

https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/03/sexual-abuse-in-the-portuguese-catholic-church-reached-epic-proportions

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I hear that another Scottish Bishop is seriously considering resigning and cannot cope with the burden of office. If true, who can blame him? Please pray for the Bishops of Scotland who do a good job under hugely difficult circumstances. Should Scotland streamline and reduce the number of Diocese?

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Hello Fr. Heard similar earlier today from a trustworthy source. In answer to your question – yes, financially Scotland must amalgamate and consolidate as the current split is not sustainable.

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Any thoughts on the disproportionate nature in which St. Columbkilles can report a moderate six figure income against parishes in the surrounding areas struggling to remain open?

The financial gap and lack of support in deprived areas is appalling. Is it down to diocesan mismanagement? The Motherwell diocese always seems to be swimming in cash vs. Glasgow when some of the respective churches are only hundreds of yards away.

As for the protagonist of this story, I have no time for him. I do have time for the extended family, but I’ll say no more than that until this is all concluded.

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