
For 36 years now, I have been celebrating marriages and blessings for those whose first marriage had failed irretrievably.
THE IDEAL
I believe in the Christian IDEAL that marriage should be for life, and as Christians, we should always do what we can to heal and save a marriage that is in trouble.
WHEN THE IDEAL IS UNACHIEVABLE
But, sadly, there are marriages that can never be healed or saved.
So, what do we do in such cases?
Do we cast people out forever and tell them they can never have love and companionship again?
Or do we find a “pastoral solution” to their dilemma.
ST BASIL

Bishop Basil of Caesera allowed second marriages on the grounds of compassion but pointed out that the second marriage was not as perfect spiritually as the first.
Other Church Fathers allowed second marriages – but for men and not for women !!!
Separated couples were in a very bad situation in Ireland, right up to 1996. The RCC had made sure there was no divorce in Ireland.
Couples wanted their new relationships recognised, and very many of them were seeking God’s blessing on their lives.
Before I began marrying and blessing couples in second relationships, I asked God to give me a sign that to so so was ok with him. He gave me that sign.
Here is a letter that arrived yesterday from a couple I encountered in 1995:
“Dear Fr Pat,
I’m sure you are wondering what prompted me to write to you after all these years. But I never got to thank you for your kindness when my partner and I went to see you in 1995.
A long time ago, surely, but going through some photos recently, I realised that I never filled you in on what happened afterwards.
I had been married to a very abusive husband with a serious drink problem. At that time, there was no getting away. We had two children and so we were trapped.
I finally had to go back home to my parents. It wasn’t easy. I took a job to get some money, and through it, I met my partner.
He was a widower with his own children. He and his children were so good to us – asked us to their houses, fed us, took us on holidays with them, and always checked in on us to see were ok, accepted us so much. I never had so much kindness.
I never left home or lived with them as my two kids were very damaged by my husband’s abuse and what they saw and heard in the early years.
My mother died in 1998. She loved my partner for his goodness to me, my children, and her. I only found out years later that she had asked my partner to look after us when she was gone. I only had to go to the phone box and he came.
When my husband died eight years ago, we had a civil marriage ceremony.
But I know what kept us together was the lovely blessing you gave us in 1995. We have been so happy and often used to think about you until finally I thought it was time to say “Thank you Father”.
I am enclosing some photos.

I am sorry for the shaky writing. My eyesight is failing, and the doctors say there is nothing more they can do. Please include me in your prayers. You helped us so much in the past when no one else would.
I hope you are happy with yourself? God knows you deserve it. You helped so many like us in the past, who had nowhere else to turn to.
It’s great that times have changed for people but you led the way for everyone.
For all you do and have done, we are truly thankful.
Always grateful to you,
Xxxxxx and Xxxxxx Xx Xxxxxx
PAT SAYS

I am grateful and touched when I receive letters like the above.
Jesus is right. We must use LOVE to determine what Scripture means – even on questions like divorce and remarriage.
I have seen so much LOVE and GOOD come put of marriages where people got a second chance.
By all means, let us keep lifelong marriage as the Christian IDEAL.
But let us also, with God’s help, find a way to give people who have failed or who have been failed, a bridge over that River of Failure.
And let us remember that Jesus was and is the bridge between God’s perfection and our imperfection.
174 replies on “WHEN A MARRIAGE IS OVER.”
It’s wonderful and liberating to know that the Roman Catholic Church no longer have such power over people’s lives. They were very judgemental and still would be but society can see right through them now. These two faced dictators spent far too many years exercising control.
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The Church is instituted of God and therefore has the authority to rule and be obeyed.
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Disagree !!!
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What?? Ruled by an internationally recognised network of paedophile and criminal enablers disguised as persons of God!!! LOL 😂
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10:49 So God’s fine with all the kiddy fiddling?
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People get married for the wrong reasons. “Everyone does” – meh! Not good enough
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They still are. They allow annulment only if one party says they didn’t know what they were entering into – also defined as we women – or as though & meaning we are learning dis-abled – you know a ‘bit soft in the head’ & other similar Scripture twisting & insulting Canon ‘Law’.
They ‘marry’ a twice divorced P.M. who we all know his track record – politically & personally. They then go onto (many of them) wash their hands ( like unconscious Pilate) ask God to cleanse them of their sins at Mass, everyone watching – til they abuse themselves and others before next Mass or so.
Then if RCC encounters a couple ( but not same sex couple – heaven forbid! ) asking for a second marriage ( unless its a ‘politically correct ‘ – that’s a parody, btw 😉 Tory PM who parties like Bishops and Priests, while others are dying from a pandemic) they are refused.
They are so lovely and patronising though – nice “please stay because we love you, like Christ loves you, really we do.” while twisting the knife – and off next week to or next day?! to fornicate and smile at the thick, stupid people who believe it all. Or who don’t but who have financial & other vested interests…….pass the sick bucket.
WTF do we stay 🧐 The things we do for God! ❤️
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Yes, who even bothers with diocesan marriage tribunals these days – aside from Boris Johnson? And when a serial philanderer like him can get married at the high altar of Westminster Cathedral, then the church’s position on remarrying divorcees deserves mockery.
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Excellent point
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Well, that’s +Elsie-Vincent for you.
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LOL my mother was always very grateful to the tribunal for granting her an annulment of her first marriage in the fifties but told me what happened was very secret and she’d only tell me after the husband’s death.
After he died I told her that it was on grounds of non consummation and she wanted to know how I found out.
I told her it wasn’t rocket science and the fact he lived with a man until his death was the giveaway.
She told me the tribunal told her (but not him) that they thought he was a homosexual.
The whole thing was utterly bizarre…
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The Tribunal members’ gaydar would know the moment he minced in.
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😅😅😅
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Nonsense, 10:38, only the butch hairy ones get on the marriage tribunal. 🥊
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I agree with some of your comments about Doris. I never voted for him as mayor, or the conservatives when he was leader. No time for his philandering. He should have been focussing on running the country not his nookie life.
However, he was not married at the high altar of Westminster cathedral.
It was a private low-key marriage.
The rules are quite simple and if you do not like them you are free to go somewhere else. Doris was baptised RC and married outside the RC. That marriage would not be recognised by the RCC and therefore he was eligible to be married in the RCC like anyone else in that situation.
Hopefully, he is now in a stable happy relationship.
Sinners can repent and we as Christians can forgive
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When I was marrying people, I always exercises a personal, subjective decision making process about whether I would celebrate a marriage. Even if the couple ticked all the boxes, I would look at them and think about whether this was going to work, whether they really were serious about it, what seemed to be their real motivation, how did it fit with the rest of their lives that I knew. The classic case is the shotgun wedding because of pregnancy, but other situations come to mind from years past. And, on a couple of occasions I decided that it would be better for them and for the sacrament for them not to be married, and I would find ways of avoiding the marriage, turning them away, delaying, etc. It worked and they would either loose interest or go somewhere else, but it meant that I did not have to go against my gut instincts and experience, and did not feel that I had allowed the sacrament to be used carelessly. Arrogant ? Or cautious and careful ? Dom’t know. I’m sure I’ll be told.
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It was low-key because of the Covid restrictions at the time, which limited participants to 30! That said, Elsie permitted a twice-divorced man, whose girlfriend recently had a baby with him out of wedlock (and who also has another child out of wedlock) to marry in a Catholic ceremony in Westminster Cathedral, the seat of English Catholicism. At the same time, a same-sex couple who are both Catholics (unlike Mr Johnson, who was confirmed as an Anglican) cannot have their civil union blessed even in private by a priest because ‘God does not and cannot bless sin…’ Mr and Mrs Johnson were married within the somewhat odd rules of the Catholic Church. And I wish them well. I also want that the same mercy and compassion offered to them, recognising their complex lives, could also be extended to same-sex couples who are lifelong Catholics.
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If Johnson was confirmed as an Anglican he must have apostasied from the Catholic faith.
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That’s some instant clergy omniscience right there at 12:48.
Of course you could simply have given them the courtesy of treating them like adults capable of making their own decisions, and kept your stupid opinion to yourself.
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I doubt very much Boris does repentance or contrition.
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Lol, 12:48, a presumed celibate, sits as judge and jury on whether couples should get married.
Also, the sheer clericalism of it. The sacraments are not the personal property of priests. Particularly marriage, where the couple are the ministers of the sacrament. In a few short years, when the priests run out, female BA Theol graduates from Maynooth will witness on behalf of the Church, so the days of 12:48 are drawing to a close.
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5:47 The “celibate” Romanists have literally shagged themselves out of existence! The irony of it!!! 🤣
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3:44 clergy and their cliques get themselves all caught up in knots because they are so self entitled they assume they should have the last word on everything that seriously has nothing to do with them. Zero respect for the boundaries that exist in “normal” society. Paranoid types with lots to hide.
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Other bishops, for example, +Eamon-Amy or +John-Betty, may receive similar thank-you letters but will, of course, expect a donation to be included with the letter, especially +Philip-Phyllis of Portsmouth. Otherwise, they’d just be binned, I imagine.
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9am the daily reminder that the Roman Catholic Church is a wealthy international asset and cash rich corporation all founded on blood money of slavery and baby trafficking and all manner of trickery and exploitation that continues to this day. Their continued resistance to pay Redress to victims and survivors and families of those who have died waiting should be addressed by international authorities, church assets should be liquidated and as church won’t do this, authorities should do it for them in the interests of the common good of truth and justice.
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You…’imagine’? Seriously?
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If you were to have your wedding ceremony in some parishes, there’s the possibility that the celebrant will be eyeing up the bride, the matron of honour or mother of the bride or groom as his next conquests. Some clergy have several cynical reasons for preferring the married variety.
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You mean eyeing up the groom, surely.
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I am married to a woman. I have fallen in love with a man. Me and the woman split up over 4 years ago but haven’t divorced. I would like to marry the man. We have no sex life at all and it’s starving me of the most basic human needs/wants.
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Dump him! He clearly isn’t into you – what kind of man doesn’t have a healthy sex drive?
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That is a very ignorant statement.
There’s a whole branch of medicine that deals with sexual problems.
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Most men have more than healthy sexual desires. It’s a small minority that do not – I’m not a doctor / but there is something wrong with them
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Erm, asexual? How is that wrong?
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His eyes aren’t asexual
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Pat, forgive these people who marry. They know not what they do.
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Doesn’t stop you taking their money for use of your church and you won’t see them again until their next baby requires baptism, Father. You see in the “real world of work” we have a philosophy on mutual respect but then that’s something that’s earned not “coerced as per modus operandi of the RCC”. 😒. You have sown what you reap, Fathers & Co. No doubt you’ll claim you’re not a Priest now! 🤣
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Marriage is a wonderful institution
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In what way?
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I want to come to your wedding with Eduardo.
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You’re 13 years late 😀
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In the eyes of God, you are not married Pat, with all due respect to God and the bible.
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I did not have a “marriage”
I had a civil partnership.
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10:47 your members don’t show any respect to God and the Bible when you kiddy and money fiddling and using your friends in high places to deny redress to victims of church abuse scandals!!
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There is a bit of a contradiction here. You are saying 13 years late for an invitation to the wedding with Eduardo and then you say at 10.49am that it was a civil partnership. Which one is correct?
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Congratulations Bishop Pat & Eduardo, wishing you both many more happy years together.
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Didn’t old Moses allow divorce? JC said he did, but he said, too, that divorce (and, therefore, remarraige) was not God’s intention.
I think, Pat, that “sign” you got was you telling yourself what you wanted to hear. God doesn’t contradict himself, but you often contradict God.
There is a penalty for this?
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My sign came through three others – an elderly priest, a bride and a journalist.
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What was the “sign”? You didn’t say.
You failed to address my point that God doesn’t contradict himself.
That “sign” you claimed suggests not only that God does indeed contradict himself, but that he changes his mind, too. Which, in turn, suggests that God is not perfect, not omniscient, not eternal…
You’ve opened a huge can of worms with that “sign”, Pat.😕
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God does not contradict himself.
But men always contradict God, very often by misusing the Bible.
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Was Jesus wrong, then, Pat? Did he misrepresent God when he said, in Matthew, that divorce (and, therefore, remarriage) was not God’s intention.
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No sin or human failure is God’s intention.
But there is always redemption after failure.
Jesus was the Giver of second chances.
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What you call being the giver of second chances, Pat, is really another way of saying that it’s ok to be disobedient to God. Which, in turn, is saying that it’s ok to… sin? Wow!
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Bishop Pat, God contradicts himself all the time. He can’t make up his mind in successive revelations about dietary rules or circumcision, for example.
Or could it possibly be that there’s more than one God?
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11:22 The giver of second chances excuse is repeatedly used here by clerics critical of Pat Buckley revealing their behaviour. It’s also been used ad nauseam by bishops for abusive priests.
If that is disobeying God, Pat Buckley is far from being the only one doing it.
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10.47: Pat, you’re forever rewriting scriptures to suit your own agenda. You think you’re “god”. You’re a pathetic man at times….delusional and very blind to your double standards and contradictions…
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Moses was an adulterer
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A serial adulterer, he cheated on every wife and had many sexual liaisons
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But Moses got a pass from Yahweh, cos he was special. Like our priests.
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That was before he received the Ten Commandments.
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4:55 another toxic contribution from the clerical narcisstic gaslighter gang – May your own natural gas burn your ass, ya aul satanic broilers.
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The priest that married me and my husband couldn’t keep his eye of him. Was basically salivating all over him. Pure disgusting it was, really put me off my day.
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And you were looking at the priest’s … mouth?
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As long as your husband-to-be wasn’t salivating about the priest, you had nothing to worry about.
Here’s a question: why do Catholics today still insist on Church weddings when they know so much about the foul behavior of priests? It’s a mystery, that one.
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Photos
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The one that married me had a tent in his trousers – sheer filth
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Maybe he had a colostomy?
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Lies, lies, lies, that’s what the vestments are handy for concealing.
Jeez, luv, you certainly didn’t find this blog on your own did you!! 🤣😇😂
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Pat me and my wife took your lead and didn’t get married in the church. We married ourselves in Colin Glen Forest Park and it was a lovely event and day.
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Colin Glen Forest?! That drugs den?!
Couldn’t you both have made a greater effort? Found somewhere more salubrious to do the deed? I mean … Jeepers! Colin Glen Forest??!!
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We live beside it and it’s very scenic, I’m sure Pat has been to it himself and knows the beauty it holds
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We baptised our 2 children there, it’s lovely and clean
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I’m
Sure there was good reason to pick it. Maybe it was the site of the first shift. Aww so romantic. 💘 💝
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Ask a priest or their pals, they know where all the “classy” forests are!
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Liz Truss has a bigger set of balls than Boris Johnston – cheek of her defending her tax policies which have crippled so many households – between her and Kwasi Modo – I would take my slipper of to the pair of them
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@11:20 that would be a Human Rights abomination.
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I have been divorced 3 times and married 4. I love the ceremony – nobody ever marrys with the intention of splitting up or getting divorced.
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I hope that at your several ceremonies you were honest and said, “Till divorce do us part”.
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I have to laugh at all the gay MEN who campaigned for marriage equality and yet they don’t even have monogamous relationships. They are the people who make a mockery out of marriage and their own community.
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Monogamous relationships are for the lower classes. Male royals and aristocrats always play the field after nuptials.
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The nouveau riche follow the aristocratic model – horses for courses.
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I admire you Pat for your willingness to be of service as you outline. I respect what you do in this regard but I hope you will respect the beliefs and principle of other registered solemnisers, particularly those from the Catholic Church. I know there are some who wish for a more embracing, inclusive welcome for all people, irrespective of their is life’s situation. We are rapidly evolving as a society and the Church is being challenged in so many ways. What matters is the compassion and kindness we give to people who do not share our teachings re: sexuality but who feel a great and genuine need to belong to a faith community.
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I would love to meet someone to marry me.
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I never believed in divorce and always frowned on those who were. My wife slept with my uncle and it devastated me, that’s when I started to understand and agree with it.
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TUSLA are enablers of criminality.
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Irish Roman Catholic Church Safeguarding work hand in hand with Irish State Child protection Agency, Tusla.
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Birds of a feather stick together.
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So purely for your own selfish,me Fein reasons you started to agree with it.
Up to that you didn’t give a damn about anyone else. Typical poor me attitude bedevilling society. Do something to help someone else for a change. You’d be amazed at how you’d feel for the first time.
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I miss my wife so dearly. All of you who are lucky to have a spouse, please appreciate them.
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Find a new one mate – you deserve a second chance
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Marty be a good Catholic now and take the advice of your parish priest @ 2:13pm when he’s touting for more business.
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It’s on blog days like this I think of Fr Timothy Bartlett and the wife and children he sacrificed for his faith.
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As if any woman would look twice at him, mind you if Trump has been married 4 times……
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Another brick in the wall
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Who will speak up for Brian D’Arcy CP, who had to turn away from the lovely ladies of Ballenaleck when he entered the Graan?
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Fr Brian is more than capable of blowing his own Trumpet about his enforced estrangement from the Strumpets.
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Brian and Timothy should go on first dates, I would love to go on myself
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@12:47pm
The bold D’Arcy is more than capable of speaking for himself, he’s been boring us for years.🙄
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I think priests should be allowed to marry each other only. Not lay people.
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True, their current arrangements are less likely to be exposed when it’s done in-house.
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Why do celibate priests give marriage instruction when they know feck all about marriage and probably fancy the groom not the bride – something v wrong with that.
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They aren’t celibate that’s the point. Celibacy is optional now for priests.
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3:12 has anyone let Pope Francis know yet that you lot making up your own rules AGAIN!! He who pays the piper calls the tune!
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The parliamentary pressure in favour of same sex weddings could lead to disestablisment for the Anglican ecclesial community. What symmetry. Set up to enable a wedding for Anne Boleyn, disestablished to enable weddings for same sex couples.
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Talking of marriage. I’ve been invited to a wedding at a St Pius X Church in Lancashire. I’m told if I go there I shouldn’t receive communion as they aren’t in communion with the RCC. Can anyone help wit this please?
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You can receive communion and there was even even a statement from the competent dicastery of the Holy See (admittedly from many years ago bur not superceded to my knowledge) that attending mass at an sspx Chapel fulfils the Sunday obligation. Also there is a now a way by which the sspx clergy can receive delegation from the ordinary to witness marriages which means the wedding as well as the eucharistic celebration will be valid.
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Pharisees, and their nitpicking, pathetic little rules.
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Thanks! I will attend in that case.
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You need to be a Catholic, in a state of grace, to receive.
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Were the clergy invoved in abusive cover up and whose action led to victims committing suicide were those clergy giving out holy communion in a state of grace?
Jesus came to save sinners he had love in his heart for the victims. Jesus did not live in a palce and did not use the title. his eminence.
He became the least of us so he was the greatest of us.
If the rcc want to become more like Jesus then sell all the material wealth and use the funds to feed the hungry and sheltet the homeless. In a mature fashion discuss sexuality and why there are so many homosexusls in the priest hood and why paedophiles also were attracted to the priesthood. Paefophilia is also a sexuality that paedophiles need treatment before they try to conrol innocent children and do unforgivable harm.
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What about when a priest (a young priest, not even ordained one year) runs off with your wife? Which is the greater tragedy? The destruction of a marriage or the abandonment of priesthood?
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@4:32pm
You can attend Mass without going to Holy Communion, it’s only the NOB who think it’s compulsory, wither you’re in the State of Grace or not.
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🎵I’m getting married in the morning. Ding-dong the bells are going to chime. 🎵
Actually, just kidding, cos 🎵my wife won’t let me. 🎵
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife.
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours goods.
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Pat I am a homosexual and would never get married I think it’s wrong and should be between man and woman.
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Catholics didn’t create marriage. Marriage is for all. Same genders or different
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Pat I really wish you had of applied to go into the Big Brother house, I think your straight talking no nonsense approach would keep housemates in check.
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Pat would start murder in there; no housemate would get away with anything. I would definitely be tuned in.
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Big Pat would be actually great on that show. Nobody would play the same game as him.
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Pat enjoy yourself in Budapest this week I hope you will still be blogging
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I’m not going there
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Budapest is absolutely gorgeous. If you haven’t been I highly recommend it, they have their own currency and it’s really cheap also. Food is top notch.
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Pat I got married in Las Vegas and I’m just wondering does that mean I am legally married in the church here?
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No, but it’s awfully handy when you realise you picked the wrong dice at the casino table! 🎲
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Dig a shallow grave
And I’ll lay me down
Oh John, you’ll never be a man
And you’ll never see your home again
Fresh lilaced moorland fields
Cannot hide the solid stench of death
Prayers for all murdered children
Amen
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I don’t know how aware you are of nhs documentation, but my mother is on a skin bundle in the RVH, she is meant to be checked and repositioned at least every 4 hours to prevent bed sores etc. My poor momma was left over 24 hours in her own urine and was not repositioned once, I am absolutely disgusted at how she has been treated.
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That’s terrible.
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Honestly Amanda make a complaint, talk to a journalist and try and contact the BBC. That’s an absolute disgrace of a situation
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&3:22 Health and other public services are inundated, it’s the patients such as your elderly mother who suffer. Too many legal eagles and pen pushers and not enough staff in the wards. It is costing lives. It’s unacceptable.
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I don’t know why gay men get a bad reputation. Me and my wife have an open relationship. We don’t have much outside ‘fun’ but if we want, we do. I love her more than life itself and she does me. What we do extra is only sex. Polyamory relationships will be more common in years to come – and hopefully with that – normal.
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Pat do you condone these ‘open’ relationships? Are you and Eduardo in one?
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Of course there is nothing wrong with a couple getting married and agreeing not to have sex – they would still partake of all the other aspects of marriage.
But consummating your marriage on your confessor’s instructions is bizarre and quite different to realising that you both fancy each other too much not to.
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If me and a good lady (perhaps soon) don’t fancy “you know what” we’re not going to ask permission from any church. In fact I think the RCC ought not to be recognising any marriages as “valid” anyway, except the same as the chess club or an employer or insurance firm does. Parsons were a handy person in each locality for keeping a register, that is all. In addition to a register office we might see if some independent chapel where we were known will read an ordinary service over us.
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I was thinking yesterday how in any other walk of life an employee vanished and their colleagues were told it was for health or personal reasons, you would assume something awful and get them a card. The reason you don’t assume that with a priest is the church’s own fault, using the phrase to cover up crime, so they’ve brought it on themselves.
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Missing in action clergy can cover a multitude of sins.
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Todays blog is thought provoking which is why I think when we go to confession in St Patrick’s that the priest encourages us to explain our sins in detail, people think he is being nosey but he is merely exploring the sin to see if it is one and also to administer the correct penance
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He is wrong because it’s up to you to decide, and to keep mentions totally nominal. He should have told you to read a book about this. As to penances he should give everyone a medium size one such as reading Bible passages, to do them good regardless of what they’ve done or not done.
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I’ve been in a Josephite marriage but it’s been more to do with age and lack of desire or interest.
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That’s good, as long as you didn’t ask the church for permission!
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Another example of the church screwing up people’s lives and intruding in the bedroom, right down to the furniture:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/style/chaste-marriage-church.html
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Was anyone in Maynooth in the late 60s? Do you remember Denis Bergin? Please contact me if you do.
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Pat this blog is like Beirut, bonkers!
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Have you tasted the wine grown just outside Beruit? CHATEAU MUSAR? Magnificent
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A friend attended the American University of Beirut and we had it at dinner at their house. You’ve reminded me if it now, must get some.
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Is that actually a thing? Where would one purchase it?
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Got hooked on in 1995 when it was around £8 a bottle, closer to e50 now, sold in most good wine shops. Nought a bottle of it for a Jewish friend as a gift, I built a bridge there and then! Maybe they all should be flooring it in the middle east!! 🍷
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4:36 it’s gas isn’t it, ideal for blowing away bad ass wolves in sheep’s clothing 😇🤣
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The trailer trash clergy types and their pals are out in force on the blog today! What would they do without their more educated “propellers” to direct them.
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I understand it off topic..I visited St Patricks Church West Palm Beach last weekend and met Fr Aiden Lacy pastor at that church..A very pompous person,He was very proud he was a graduate of Maynooth Seminary he mentioned it several times during our conversation.He is a fine singer.I was wondering if any of his class mates are contributors to this blog.
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What is it about St Patrick’s named churches that attracts the pompous type of priest?
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Pat my wife was refused communion on the tongue and then she was mocked by the priest at mass the week after, what are your views on the Eucharist being served in the gub?
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Marriage is over rated – what a pile of absolute shite
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Is it true that same-sex marriages in Northern are not permitted a religious element, such as hymns or biblical readings, even by the couple themselves? If it is, I hope every such couple cocks a snoop at the churches by adding these features after the big event. As for Romanist priests’ not being allowed to ‘solemnize’ these marriages without written permission from, presumably, their bishops, just wait for the maverick priests to go ahead with this anyhow. 😅 Ooooh! There’s troubled waters ahead for the likes of oor Noel. His big house with its fancy new security gates will make the place seem more a beseiged fortress than a home. You built your own prison, you episcopal halfwit. 😃
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If NI wants to be part of the United Kingdon, then it frigging well should be in lockstep with the law of the United Kingdom and respect the values of the UK, rather than cherry picking what it wants. If you want to be British then start acting like British instead of like little Northern Irlelanders.
For the most part, most people in England, Wales and Scotland don’t really think of Northern Irelanders as British. You are Ni people, or Irish, or just plain yourselves. Better you become independent or just get cut off and hauled off in to the mid Atlantic. I doubt if the Republic wants you either. You are just trouble, for the most part. So, get over it, get on side, if you want to be part of us. Or just…..well, you know. F*** ***f. Just saying it as we see it over here.
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6.56pm
Get out your dictionary and look up “Devolution”.
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Catholic priests claim they are ‘living in a state of persecution’ because of child abuse scandals – and argue the REAL crisis in the church is dwindling congregations – Reports Daily Mail. Sept 2019.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7512031/amp/Catholic-priests-claim-living-state-persecution-child-abuse-scandals.html
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Once again. The RCC think that they can define what love is. Love is love. I know that these bozos are hypocrites but this takes the biscuit. Well over 90% of Belfast priests are gay and they seek to prevent people from the lgbt community from marrying in churches!! I think they are living in the twilight zone
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What percentage of RC clerics in the Republic of Ireland are:
Gay
Bi-sexual
Heterosexual
Celibate – 0% ?
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The reality is that marriage is a state of relationship between two people, what about sister wives in America. Trying to copyright the word marriage does not mean they own the relationship. Look at history How many proclaimed marriage values but acted like ass holes hey
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I’m not sure that the requirements for a civil partnership or same sex marriage include sexual consummation, unlike in heterosexual / opposite sex marriage. Also, adultery is not grounds for dissolution of a same sex civil partnership or same sex marriage, again unlike with heterosexual / opposite sex marriage. I’m not sure what the requirements are for the new same sex civil partnerships, which were recently introduced in some countries. Heck, it’s a minefield !
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To speak of consummation of marriage in purely sexual terms reflects the RCC’ s chequered, and neurotic, history over human sex. There are much more fundamental things that ‘consummate’ marriage, and that, indeed, validate it. It is decidedly odd that the historical fear and revulsion the RCC felt towards human sex should lead them to regard sexual intercourse as the principal validator of marriage. Odder still, a marriage in which, for whatever reason, this act did not take place would be regarded as sacramentally invalid, and annulled.
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Matrimony isn’t a church sacrament, it’s a common human one. Dioceses would be well within their budgets if they didn’t transubstantiate (that contradicts Christ’s Presence) and didn’t annul.
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I remain, unalterably, opposed to abortion under any and every circumstance. Sadly, the call by Irish bishops for politicians in Northern Ireland to end the hiatus in the Northern Ireland Executive at Stormont will be ignored, principally because one of the main parties in co-governance, DUP, does not want its restoration, at the moment, since this would prevent the imposition here of abortion legislation by Westminster Parliament. Sinn Fein calls itself ‘pro-choice’. Morally speaking, there isn’t, in my opinion, a wafer’s difference between this, and proclaiming oneself ‘pro-abortion’. Everyone should have the right to marriage irrespective of gender or sexuality, it’s a lovely life pleasure, abortion is damn wrong.
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Contraceptives deny a soul the right to life and should be banned also. We need all be a loving soceity and help each other.
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There is nothing wrong with being gay. I could understand a priest having a discreet partner – even though it is a contradiction in private if a very public promise. Morally, no one is bound to observe a bad law. But with the RCC we are in a totally different league of cardinals, bishops, priests and seminarians involved in a world wide gay orgy.
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Yes, I kind of accepted being actively gay was widespread among priests, but I thought the church really did its due diligence regarding bishops. Apparently, their vetting is not as rigorous as it should be. It’s only going to get worse as those who went through seminaries in the 1990s are set to become bishops. I fear it’s much worse than the odd ‘bad apple’.
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If people comprise themselves in one area of life, comprise in others areas is much more likely, hence so much corruption in so many areas in the Rcc. Its obvious discipleship to Jesus Christ seems to count for little or nothing to many in the Institutional Church.
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They compromise themselves more when they attract attention to themselves in outwardly unrelated areas and then it all links.
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Can anyone remember the key characters from the maynooth days
Sean Jones (Jockstrap pics)
Brendan Marshall (Sex victims)
Michael Byrne (older priest friends)
Ronan Sheehan (in bed with Brendan)
Conor Gannon (Irish College stuff)
Kevin McElroy (Horny andy X)
Chris Derwin (“robbed” + sex issues)
Rory Coyle (Grindr + pictures)
Stephen Wilson (altar priest scandal / trolly dolly)
Declan McGeehan (Grindr issues)
Conan McGonagle (found brendan and Ronan in bed)
Who else?
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I wrote wills for a Kuwaiti couple with real estate in London, and they objected to the definitions section, which defined a ‘spouse’ as a ‘husband, wife or civil partner’. They said they had no such thing as a civil partnership in Kuwait, and the definition should be removed. They were adamant that they wanted our succession law to apply to their property in England – apart from that bit!
I do wonder about this BRICS alliance which is hardly mentioned. Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. The Saudis are about to join too. It’s not a military alliance but will push back against Western values. However, Brazil is very tolerant when it comes to LGBT rights and is perhaps the most advanced in Latin America.
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+Pat,
Lost coin, lost sheep – reaching out to the outcast…. comforting the suffering… you received a lovely letter. You have lived the ministry many of your brother priests wanted but were too afraid to embrace. God bless you.
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7.20: A very broad sweeping lie. You depend too much on this blog which despises Catholic priesthood. Very unfair and very hostile blog led by a looper.
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The only people despising the priesthood are the thousand who enter it and lead double lives.
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9:02 Jog on, liar and stop insulting Bishop Pat and his ever increasing caseload – shame on your church. Get yourself onto social media or summat! You probably know a few of your colleagues who are a right whizz on it altogether.
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