FROM H&N PARISHIONER ON BEHALF OF MANY OTHERS:
Good evening,
I’m part of the Hexham and Newcastle diocese and have been following the McCoy and Byrne stories since they broke. Can I say it doesn’t shock me at all. McCoy was my parish priest and I never got a good vibe from him. He faffed too much and would tell the congregation every week how they weren’t raising enough money for him…I mean the diocese.
I was just wondering if you had heard anything from the archbishops meeting with the priests from Thursday? I hope it won’t be covered up and swept under the carpet. I think the people of Hexham and Newcastle deserve to know. It annoys me the people who are burying their heads in the sand and don’t want to believe what actually went on.
Many thanks for raising issues and concerns. It means a lot.
Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle: Meeting with Archbishop Malcolm McMahon.
There is frustration among some priests regarding the meeting with Archbishop McMahon on Thursday 9th January. The Archbishop gave a summary of the various investigations stating that what he shared with priests at the meeting was confidential.
What is clear is that anyone can express concerns, questions or comments about the diocese to the investigation for the Vatican that is being lead on behalf of Bishop Malcolm by Mrs Carol Lawrence, the Chief Operation Officer of the Diocese of Shrewsbury. The investigation will be looking at all aspects of diocesan life , so anyone is welcome to contact the investigation.
Carol Lawrence said:
I would be keen to hear from anyone who would like to share with me their experiences and views. In line with the Terms of Reference individual meetings with stakeholders will be arranged over the coming weeks, and I should like to begin by extending the offer of a meeting to any priest who would like to talk to me. I am happy to meet preferably in person, or to speak on the phone, or indeed to receive correspondence from you by email or by post.
You can contact me by email at carolHNinvestigation@gmail.com or by telephone on 07930 891327 to share information with me or to request to meet, or write to me at Diocese of Shrewsbury, 2 Park Road South, Prenton CH43 4UX. Please mark any postal correspondence ‘Private and Confidential’.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
111 replies on “OUTCOME OF H&N MEETING BETWEEN PRIESTS AND MC MAHON.”
Not another ‘chief operating officer’!!!! Of course EGAN is a priest of SHREWSBURY. Is there any update on PORTSMOUTH Bishop Pat?
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UUUHHH ? So, nothing really ? Just there is an investigation ? The co-ordinator of comments, views, experiences etc is some chubby redhead from Shrewsbury ? That’s it ? Oh, come on, there must be much more that was said, shared ? And, as the parishioner from H&N rightly asks, we would like to know what was said, what happened, and what is known. After all, it’s all being done on our ticket.
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10.36. No need for the personal comments about her appearance. That’s verbal abuse plus it detracts from the reason for this blog. I’ll research her & her qualifications, if any…..
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A Gmail account. Really professional, that.
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I’m kind of strangely relieved that no priests have spoken about the meeting. It shows that fraternity still exists amongst the H and N clergy, or at least is returning now the Prince Bishop has gone. We have some excellent priests.
Honestly we really do, and they are many hardworking guys who are much loved.
I’m sure his closest collaborators will not come out well after this good lady completes her investigation, which the clergy are clearly waiting for.
Trust is being restored under the Archbishop, and many lay people like myself in the diocese, await honesty and openness in the report(s).
Yes, senior clergy will be changed, moves will have to made. But hopefully now lay people will again have a say once more, and will be listened too and valued again. We people and priests will start working together again, like before 2019 when we did, rather just a very small group of clergy deciding everything.
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The meeting was for clergy. Not for laity. So it’s right that it’s not been shared. Especially not on here.
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12:23 The Roman Catholic Church has zero right to keep any more secrets. It is completely funded by both members of the public who are church attendees and also by the non-RC taxpayer through the various government subsidies and grants that it receives. The RC has a long and consistent history acknowledged by international human rights organisations of dehumanising and torturing victims of church related abuse by clergy and its inner circle lay membership. It’s also high time to highlight the Fatwa that senior Roman Catholic clergy have been instigating against legitimate complainants on issues of church related sexual and financial abuse.
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At this stage it is clear that protecting the interests of the RC is the one and only priority. There is zero regard for victims, survivors and zero moral compass.
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They are all just ticking boxes
Investigation my a****
It’ll do for their day.
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Newcastle Cathedral is 100 metres from Eazy Street the Drag Bar 😇
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I’m sure if the drag bar find out they’ll want the cathedral moved to get the groomers away from them.
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RC Safeguarding persons appointed are carefully selected safe pairs of hands who will act in the best interests of the Church all the time and every time if they know what’s good for them and their own questionable connections.
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Newcastle City Council and Northumbria Police should be investigating plus all other regional authorities / police forces where allegations have been made. They are the statutory authorities, fully qualified and salaried to do this work – not an ‘in house’ team of ‘investigators.’ That is the Law – not the twisted law of any church which seeks to contaminate and act against God’s Law, through Christ – called the ‘10 Commandments’.
There is nothing to see of ‘love’ in shrouds of secrecy and shrouds of collusion. Even when a ‘parishioner’ responds with apparent positive cliches to Pat, already used by other parishioners. All trust has gone. Shrouds are for dead bodies and our once loved church is putrefying in one. This ‘investigation thing’ is just another joke using business jargon.
Mocking the Holy Spirit. The Spirit which YOU have taught us since childhood. How dare you? Is this investigative procedure on a par with the sexual, psychological, emotional, neglectful, physical abuse that celibacy and sexism rules create? I feel that might be offensive to abused people. I am sorry if that is so but we only have to look at the history. Ampleforth, Downside et al.
Our Father, who art in Heaven. Sullied be Thy Name. I am sorry beyond measure for ever having trusted and loved this Church. Loving and caring for my friends in a parish keeps me and doubtless others – going. Amen and prayers ongoing against the mockery of God’s House.
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there are none so blind or as verbal as those with their own dirt to cover. Deflection is the name of their game to discredit legitimate victims and survivors, their families & supporters. Evil led by the collared devils in disguise.
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The Chief Operating Officer! Confirmation if you needed it, that the RCC is run as a PLC. You won’t see it listed in FTSE though as it doesn’t pay tax and it’s Masonic structure and lack of transparency wouldn’t pass muster
with statutory authorities.
Don’t waste your time going to see this lackey. If you do, don’t go alone, go in a group or with a witness. They will whitewash anything that brings their putrid criminal organisation into disrepute.
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Fr McCoy succumbed to the heavy burden of his conscience in the end.
Or more likely his fear of prosecution, public shaming, and imprisonment.
The bottom line is that once again victims of abuse are denied acknowledgment or justice.
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Proof ?
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its in the pudding
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9:39am
Another Fr Brendan Smyth – clergy don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Priests Will kill themselves rather than provide their victims with an opportunity to heal from the dreadful things priests do to children and anyone they can isolate and control and target and all these volunteers and community groups they have knowingly cover up for them.
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‘Fr’ Brendan Smyth? Don’t ever refer to that animal as ‘Fr’. He is not worthy of the title. He is an absolute dirty cunt.
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11:55 Nobody can disagree with your estimate of him and so sorry if you are one of his victims.
However continuing to call him Fr reinforces that by being ordained he was confirmed to have a vocation to be a priest and was called by God. The catlicks need to be continually reminded of this slight problem with their religion because they’d love to have you forget it.
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Pat if a fellow priest turned out to be a notorious child abuser and had the same name as you would you not change your name?
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I’d certainly consider it 😀
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1:37 No, because there’s a high probability you’d have to change your name yet again as the RC isn’t dealing with the issues it is creating.
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By the police who won’t investigate the matter now he’s dead?
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2:25 some “get out clause” that is, what about his superiors and colleagues who covered up for Fr Brendan Smyth for years and years.
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Surely the Bishop is Chief Operation Officer of his diocese? As with the NHS the Church is overrun with highly paid bureaucrats in pointless jobs.
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10:07 Au contraire!
When it comes to running an internationally recognised abuser of human rights of the child, women and vulnerable persons and with a most shamefully inadequate or to put it straight an almost non existent record of redress, naturally, the modus operandi to continue receiving State funding, Grants etc., is to employed highly experienced executives, they are worth their weight in gold to the RCC Mafia.
After all, ultimately they keep the show on the road in light of ongoing falling church attendance.
Much more focus should be spotlighted on the identity and backgrounds of paid and volunteering church laity worldwide. Their backgrounds in the professions are highly relevant and instrumental to the ongoing gaslighting and manipulation of victims, survivors and whistleblowers.
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Likewise, “animators” of movements, moves, non-alternate paths and suchlike typical contemporary phenomena. Also trustees with connections to horse racing. Also any clergy and their ex-journalist friends appointed to quangoes of different flavours.
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Bishops increasingly employ lay people to pin the blame on for their ineptitude and cover-ups.
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To moderately decent bishops, reasonable administration was part of their pastoring.
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Who is the young man that has been hanging around our Parochial house for the last 3 months? Handsome young tanned and muscled, looks like a Bruno to me.
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Sounds suspicious, possibly an Iranian?
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10:42 Ask him who he is. You don’t even provide the address for the parochial house so how would you reasonably expect an accurate response!
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10:42
A Twink rejected by priest.
It’s a common enough occurrence.
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10:42 You’ve described me to a T but I wouldn’t hang around parochial houses, I have too much self respect.
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Didn’t D&C’s Bishop of Bling have Brazilian young men hanging around his palace in the last few years. I think you will find that bishop’s of a certain bent will always engineer having a bit of eye candy around the place, either as the housekeeper or cook or gardener or perhaps as his priest secretary. Think Benedict and Georg who were together for decades, but Benny originally set his eyes on Georg when he was a delectable 30 years old something and never let hmi out of his sight from then on. Still on Georg, has Franky evicted Georg from his Vatican quarters yet ? Oh dear, the surviving partners always get treat terribly when their protector has gone.
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NOel Breanor loves a Brazilian, make of that what you wish.
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Poor Donal McKeowns head is already splitting with the shenanigans of what is unravelling in St Pats between the feuding Priests. I would expect Tony the tank to be the latest curate to be shipped out to keep the peace.
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Another curate bites the dust
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11:56 Noel Treanor isn’t alone in his penchant for the Brazilians.
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More pointless wind from Newcastle & Hexham
Someone should remind all clerics and their salaried executives and self interested volunteers and benefactors that
Words not matching actions is manipulation
Refusing to be held accountable is called gaslighting
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The meeting was fruitful, but tense, a few spoke the truth and called the previous bishop for what he was. Some of the xbishops lackeys and there a few of them tried to shut the conversations down fearing they would be implicated.
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Ah, yes, the spirit which animated the martyrs.
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Pat I was really humbled by your readers honesty yesterday upon his HIV test. I wish him the best. I would like to stress the importance of testing and knowing. I was unfortunate that I found out I was positive after possibly acquiring the virus about 7-9 years ago and I have AIDS. I could have prevented this with early testing and want to encourage all clergy and lay alike to make this month a month where they all test. I am only 34 and my life expectancy is not looking good due to a late diagnosis. I wish you and all a pleasant day and future.
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Dear Callum, Sorry to hear your story. I’m sure the medics can still do a lot for you 🙏
If I can help in anyway please let me know
bishopbuckley1@outlook.com
07488 374364
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Thank you Ronnie and Bishop Pat. I think it would be nice if we could meet up around November and prepare some sort of event for world aids day in December. I have hiv + t shirts that I wear unapologetically and proud all year round. Generally the reaction is positive but in life we will always get those who have nothing good to say at all. Good luck Ronnie 🤞🏾
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Thank you, Callum. I posted the blood sample last night and will receive a text when it arrives at the laboratory, a text if it is negative, and a telephone call if reactive 3 days later. They won’t confirm a positive result until you have had a full blood test at a centre. I walk past the Bloomsbury Clinic in London every day for work and had not realised what it was until researching all this and finally deciding to test. The Bloomsbury clinic will treat you wherever you live in the UK. I can’t say I am not nervous – however, I feel a sense of relief at finally taking the test and will just have to cope with whatever the result is. I hope all is going well with you. From what I’ve read, even if your CD4 count is below 300, ART can help to increase it and protect your immune system.
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Callum. Why are you proud to wear an HIV tee shirt? Surely a lot of this is self inflicted by promiscuity. What is there to be proud of?
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I suspect he is proud to know that he has taken responsibility and tested and that HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence because he can then choose to avoid disapproving pricks like you.
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Healing happens when you’re triggered
And you’re able to move through the pain, the pattern and the story and
Walk your way to a different ending
Prayers this morning for Bishop Pat and for all victims, survivors and whistleblowers and all struggling for justice from church authorities at this time.
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This is very true. I have lots of triggers to my alcoholism, the problem I have is that I like the taste of it and the social aspect of it. AA never worked for me, they are all about abstinence. I am about damage control and risk reduction. Drinking only in social circumstances and no house drinking is important for me. You have a commentator ‘Eamon’ who regularly posts here boasting of getting his stomach pumped etc and I think he is totally irresponsible. He should try and do what I do. Enjoy it responsibly.
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And you think you are responsible Mark? As Pat always says, call and alcoholic an alcoholic. You are no better than me! I am living my best and most authentic life – whether that’s with a drink in my hand at lunch time or not.
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Eamon, babe, you’re living two best lives at once because of the double vision x
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Wouldn’t it be good if ‘Eamon’ turned out to be Amy Martin pretending to be an alcoholic to troll the blog?
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Good question – what happened to the Priest Retirement Fund? Was Egan investigated or has it all blown over and he gets to do what he wants?
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It is disappointing that there is an apparent lack of transparency surrounding this investigation – how is trust ever to be restored? I hope that all complaints submitted under the previous management are to be re-examined. As acknowledged by previous commentators abuse takes many forms, including bullying by priests. Given the reference to the xbishop’s lackeys trying to close down open debate in the post by Adm at 10.45, how can there be any confidence that under previous management all complaints were investigated justly.
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Don’t expect transparency expect cover up and damage limitation – see it from there point of view – sex parties during Covid, bishop sexuality assaulting a priest, suicide of priest accused of child abuse – his computer industrialy cleaned before he died, Gardner convicted of downloading 5000 images living with the bishop, sacking of Dermot Donnelly replaced with McCoy, etc etc etc will discourage donations and impact on bottom line and balance sheet – so trust me they will appear like they are investigating but they will be mitigating the damage like their lives and livelihood depends on it.
They live to bury bad news.
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Pat say a prayer for my daughter. Izzy is 6 months pregnant and her husband threw her down the stairs and she is in hospital hoping and praying the twins and her are ok.
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Liz my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I hope twins daddy falls down the stairs and breaks his neck. The slime ball
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I think that any of the problems that H&N or other diocese have in this part of the world, they pale in to insignificance compared to the looming accountability, legal and financial problems that are facing US dioceses. Have a look at this from the Diocese of San Diego (Cardinal McElroy – https://sdcatholic.org/news-release/diocese-considering-bankruptcy-in-light-of-pending-abuse-claims/) and what they are facing on account of the lifting of the statute of limitations on abuse crimes and the cases that they now will have to face. To the turn of $550 million, on top of the $175 million they have already forked out. Their liability is seemingly endless. Bankruptcy looms. Yes, the legal systems are different in the US compared to the UK / Ireland etc., but whatever difficulties dioceses over here face they are as nothing compared with what happens across the Pond. Maybe it would shake all of our bishops out of their complacency if they were all to face bankruptcy ! Perhaps losing all their worldly goods would end up with a Church that was humbled, cleansed and pure and able to start again. That would also involve a clear out of clergy and bishops, who have consistently shown themselves venal and criminal. It is going to take something as fundamental and radical as that in order to rid the Church of the pollution and sin that has taken it over. Then the Phoenix can rise from the ashes. Only then.
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Dioceses only file bankruptcy to AVOID paying damages, it’s just another way of preserving their lucre.
The fearful things you describe don’t happen and you’re just repeating the standard church narrative.
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Pat, on the subject of HIV – are you aware of fellow clergy who are perhaps positive? It’s more common than people think.
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Any priest that cottages is at particular high risk of catching any sexually transmitted infection. Cottagers do not tend to wear protection and are the biggest risk takers in the gay community.
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Big Mick Lomasney died with HIV – I don’t know if it had progressed to AIDS or whether he was diagnosed and receiving treatment, but he was only 59. All of his sexual partners would have been at risk. Too many priests and seminarians are fearful to test as it reveals they have not lived up to their promises. A good bishop would encourage his priests to be tested and receive appropriate medical care so they can go on to live happy and healthy lives.
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Bishop Treanor did encourage all his clergy men to test and know, but learn from the experience they garnered from it. From the outside he didn’t seem a great Bishop, but he looked after his own well.
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Robert Nugent is off on one again. Posting videos at 4am and claiming that Our Lady is sending him messages about Priests.
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I think it’s his own conscience talking to him. If he got on like this years ago he would have been locked up. It’s the same for people who claim not to have a gender, they would have rightly been locked up years ago.
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Any word on the payoffs in Killaloe?
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1:50 Big payoffs…no more burger & chips. Filet Mignon is now the order of the day.
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Have you seen the amount of homeless people in Belfast CC? Is Larne the same? Yet how many large mansions do our clergy live in? They should be all made to live in the one house.
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One big happy orgy eh
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Really? In my, personal experience, priests have very poor personal hygeine. Some of them literally stink, and their underwear? If you want to imagine the state of these, imagine Steptoe, in Steptoe snd Son.
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So the narrative is that Byrne was a respected Founder and leader of the Oxford Oratory, his skills fitted the role of auxiliary bishop which he served without blemish and then when transposed to Newcastle things regrettably went wrong and he would be the first perosn to admitt it that he felt overwhelmed and out of his depth? Sorry but theres a history there thats being covered up as it drags far too many people in maybe it will come out and if it did it might improve the life of the Church with some necessary self reflection
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As the ex wife of a man who was an alcoholic I would like to encourage anyone with a spouse or partner the same, to find your inner strength and get rid of them. Be strong and selfish. It was the best decision I ever made. I don’t miss being urinated on in the middle of the night in bed by someone so intoxicated they are incontinent. I don’t miss wakening up in the morning to go to work to find my husband sleeping in the dogs bed or spooning our Christmas tree on the living room floor.
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Obviously you seemed to have had a hard life. But not everyone just gives up. My uncle was a property developer and owned several supermarkets. I Never met him as a youngster when he was remotely sober. He had 7 children. He drank his building empire and supermarket to the ground. His wife and family stood by him, he surrendered himself to being powerless and broke, 30 years ago. Got. Sober, rebuilt his life, and building empire, sons and daughters now running things and he helps people now as a retired man with their demoms, never once would he look down on an alcoholic. Just listens, as he did with me. Perhaps you did not have a choice, but you should not encourage others to take the same route as you.
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Be grateful you got away from him. That was desperate abuse you had to put up with. Mind yourself now. You’ve done your hell on earth already.
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Pat you told us last year that Fr Rory Sheehan was leaving ministry for his Physiotherapist boyfriend and yet he is still in Our Lady Queen of Peace, and he still gets Fr John Paul Lytlle to cover for him when he takes time off.
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Power bottom fairly gets about doesnt he.
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2:41 he’s as active as his pal the curtain twitcher.
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2:11 you’d have to claw their fingers off the collection plate with a crow bar. He won’t jump before they are publicly forced to push him and even then he’s still be skulking in the filing cabinet scouring for ammunition.
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2.02: Your comment is silly. It’s absurd. Why do you and your like always think it’s other people’s problem to settle the homeless situation? Do you actually work with a homeless charity or support one?If not, you’re clueless.
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Whoever it is is merely highlighting a terrible problem, have you any solutions you moron?
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@2:12
Wealthy Irish Church is taking the piss as usual claiming energy and renovation and every grant going from government who have confirmed they haven’t had one definite offer of a building for the refugees arriving daily.
Stop taking the piss, Father, and hand over a few buildings that the public paid for in the first place to help this homeless crisis in Ireland.
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This is very unsatisfactory Bishop Mark Davies of Shrewsbury is very conservative . His Director of Operations will hold similsr views Somebody with a more relevant perspective is required The situation could become worse and indeed of further, open investigation
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2.30, conservative, liberal, middle-of-the-road, does it matter so long as the man is honest? Are you suggesting he isn’t.
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I am 72 this year Pat, I do not have long for this world, if I have a decade left I would be happy, but I will be damned if I’m going to spend any of that time with dick heads.
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Yet you comment on this blog, the mind boggles
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Sad & brave stories today. You are a great agony uncle.
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The DUP are heartless fuxkers they really are. Blocking poor Diathi’s law over a damn protocol.
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The Irish insisted upon the Protocol knowing that it would alienate unionists; Leo Varadkar even spoke of a return to republican terrorism if the Irish didn’t get their way.
The Irish didn’t want a so-called “hard border” between NI and the ROI, but they expected unionists to accept such a border between NI, and the rest of the UK.
Man up, and put the blame for this where it rightfully belongs: with the hypocritical Irish.
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And, @ 4.40, your nationality is?
I mean the country you were born in, NOT the one you might think of as your country of origin
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Bishop Buckley do you think prostitution and cannabis should be made legal in NI? If women want to empower themselves then why shouldn’t they be able to sell their bodies for sex while stoned?
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I agree.
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I agree also but it technically is already legal as the police turn a blind eye to both
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In response to Anonymous at 12:23 pm: Perhaps it would have been good practice to provide a briefing document that Priests in the Diocese could have shared with their parish community? The commentator illustrates the unwillingness of some in the hierarchical church to respect and involve “The People of God”. A perfect example of Clericalism. Perhaps not all Priests believe that cover up is the best strategy for the future?
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The purpose of the meeting was to speak to any individual clergy that wanted to speak privately. I’m sure the results of the investigation will be produced in due course.
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Anonymous at 4.45pm – how does your experience of the meeting align with that of Adm at 10.45? There seems to be some disconnect here. Can you advise if you are speaking of personal experience? It could only be in the setting of a group that those Priests brave and honest enough to speak with integrity would be silenced by ‘the exbishop’s lackeys’
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Mc Mahon met priests PRIVATELY the day after the General hotel meeting.
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I don’t have any confidence in an investigation in to any Church affair, including the Bobby Byrne imbroglio, which is an internal investigation done by people connected to the Church. They are simply marking their own homework. If they really do want to get to the truth of what went on and what lessons can be learned they should have an investigation that is done by a wholly independent and non-Church connected organisation, giving them full access to everything and everybody. Actually, I think people would speak more freely if they were talking to someone genuinely independent rather than someone who will be making decisions about them and their lives and their futures going forward. Nothing will come out of the Byrne / H&N investigation except a litany of trite, twee, saccharine nothings. Watch that space.
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I was wondering only this morning if Portsmouth’s now notorious COO would be featured this week! Any update Pat??
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Northumbria Police and the coroners office have detailed information that was supplied after the canon McCoy suicide it could and should be made available in the H&N investigation it gives greater clarity on the single documented allegation against him and is in black and white not conjecture and his family would have no problem that information being in the public domain!
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Carol Lawrence not COO – this is a title she gives herself – she is actually financial secretary- there in no COO in Shrewsbury. Not a good sign that the investigation is being undertaken by someone who is not honest
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My probation officer said that I should try and find religion and see how it goes but after reading this blog I think it would make me become an even bigger criminal.
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This blog welcomes all here, criminals are a recurring thing and tend to be headliners
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Pat do you think a married Catholic headmaster in his 50’s who has multiple affairs with members of staff one who was half his age should be allowed to hold a position in an RC school ? I’m not sure so would appreciate your view on it
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I’m surprised that Bishop Mark has a chief boss woman. I thought he was supposed to be ultr
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I wonder the degree to which conjecture regarding this whole situation is rampant – not only among the parishioners of Hexham and Newcastle but among the Priests who ‘serve’ them? Is this a case of information restricted to the few? What of those appointments/moves/promotions made under the leadership of Bishop Robert – can they be trusted? Michael McCoy’s family deserve empathy and sympathy. It is within the gift of many in the Diocese to do the right thing, be open, stand up for the truth, set yourself and others free.
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Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Stop the abuse.
The Vigilante is watching you.
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While the RC Church continues to mark its own homework on safeguarding the criminality will persist. If McMahon et Al were serious they’d have full openness and a fully independent investigation, by those with no connection to the RCC.
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Michael McCoy killed himself over a groping allegation he deserved to die as he betrayed everyone involved and he knew that !!!! The sensationalism afterwards is pure fantasy…
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