BY GORDON DEEGAN
An outspoken north Clare parish priest has made an undisclosed payout arising from a court action taken by a traveller woman concerning a First Holy Communion flashpoint eight years ago.
At Ennis Circuit Court, Judge Francis Comerford noted the out-of-court settlement between Ennistymon parish priest Fr Willie Cummins and Caroline Sherlock.
Ms Sherlock took a separate action against the late Martin Drennan, former Bishop of the Diocese Of Galway and Kilmacduagh, concerning her discrimination case.
The joint discrimination action by Ms Sherlock arose from the alleged refusal by Fr Cummins to allow her to attend the Church of Our Lady and St Michael, Ennistymon for her niece and nephew’s First Communion on May 23rd, 2015.
Judge Comerford made the out-of-court settlement between Bishop Drennan, who died last November, and Caroline Sherlock a rule of court.
PAT SAYS
Thankfully, the days are gone when priests can verbally and socially abuse people and get away with it.
Who did WILLIE CUMMINGS think he was to refuse a Traveller lady into a church ceremony just because she wasn’t dressed as he thought she should be?
Traveller women and girls have their own sense of style.
It may not conform to our sense of style, but so what?
And we can not accuse them of “immodesty” as Traveller females are extremely conscious of boundaries, especially with men.
Traveller women basically get 3 days on life when they can shine – their Holy Communion Day, their Confirmation Day, and their Wedding Day.
Days out are very important to them.
And they like to dress up.
The mean no disrespect to churches, priests, etc.
I think that WILLIE CUMMINGS was ignorant and misogynistic.
I hope he and his clerical ilk have learned a lesson.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
192 replies on “PP SETTLES WITH TRAVELLER WOMAN AFTER REFUSING HER ENTRY TO CHURCH BECAUSE OF HOW SHE WAS DRESSED”
I’m sorry Pat but you should see the gypsies that come to mass once a month in my place, pure scandalous the way they dress. Boob tubes and mini skirts and so loud and brash with rosary beads as long as their height.
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They should learn from the trans community. The trans community shouts the loudest and gets the most attention yet they represent less than 1% of the community in NI. Travellers represent 11% of NI and are the most discriminated and under valued. Forget trans rights and focus on the gypsies.
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Trans rights are human rights also
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Trans people don’t have a clue who or what they are. At least the travelling community know who they are.
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Try walking onto a traveler site as a trans! Don’t think there’ll be an opportunity to settle.
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Travellers surely not 11% of the population? Where does that figure come from? Important also to remember Gypsies and Travellers are two different groups.
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This is all to do with repressed sexuality.
When RCC starts talking openly about
Asexuality
Hetro sexuality
Homosexuality
Paedosecuality
wil the church be seen to taking sexuality seriously and end cover ups and hypocrasy
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They dress like that because this is considered attractive in Travellling Communities and they hope to meet a husband at Mass. That’s not a bad intent.
If you have an issue with jow they dress than may I suggest you stop saying mass and start praying mass. Once you pray mass you’ll take little notice of what’s happening around you.
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Teenage members of the Irish Traveller Community lost their lives in a tragic accident near Menlo Pier in the early hours of Saturday morning.
The funeral of John Keenan Sammon aged 16 took place this afternoon.
Christy Stokes aged 19 will also be buried at Rahoon Cemetery after his funeral mass at the Church of the Resurrection in Ballinfoyle on Thursday.
The third victim of the tragedy, Wojciech Panek aged 17 from Kilkenny will be cremated on Friday.
Rest in peace.
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Amen
Rest in peace
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@11:06. You start of saying sorry. Why?
Maybe because of the narrow minded views you subsequently express?
And “your” place!
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Decades of litigation, endless bad publicity and thousands of victims of priests haven’t taught them a lesson so I doubt they’ll learn one from this.
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Fantastic. The audacity to chastise a woman and prevent her from attending a first holy communion mass when priests and seminarians were sucking each other off on the altar is audacious—a good win for her and a lesson for gobshite clerics.
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Fr Willie looks like a heavy drinker.
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Some background here. Willie should retire.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/silence-about-traveller-family-who-were-publicly-humiliated-1.2231321
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When I first read Pat’s blog I though they were likely dressed like hookers. After reading the article though it seems not – unless boobs were hanging out which the article doesn’t mention.
Churches, like workplaces or restaurants etc are entitled to have basic dress code. Turning up to work in Ireland with your arse exposed in a micro mini will get you in trouble. There’s a place for tarty outfits and it’s called a nightclub. The cut of them at Ballinasloe etc, its atrocious.
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Agree with you. The Travellers motto seems to be “my way or no way!”
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The photograph of Fr. Willie Cummings reminded me of the great Glasgow TV philosopher and highly respected gentleman Rab C Nesbitt. They could be brothers though I think Rab got the good looks in that family
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With all respect , you obviously have not been to communions in the South in quite some time. Churches are taken over by a minority, with stretch limousines and cinderella horse drawn carts, while other children see this and wonder why they are having a basic day out to mass. You say 3 or 4 days out to dress up? what about the 362 ish days not brother to get dressed..in sleeping gowns and slippers to go to shops, and most importantly post offices. I’m sure you won’t approve this but I think you are off the mark here, and I’m in no way fond of church and do not attend, however I do respect it helps many people.
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Yet your highest respect is supposedly kept for post offices, where you say it’s most important to dress properly. 😂
This can’t be true so should is obviously a disgruntled cleric.
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The appalling behaviour and immodest and disrespectful way these tinkers dress at First Communions and Confirmations is beyond atrocious. That worthy priest was quite right to ban that woman, the disgrace is that more priests don’t have the courage to do the same. Of course Patsy and the Buckbots don’t see anything wrong with way they dress and that says it all.
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Pat, this fool has posted multiple times today and has been verbally abusive each and every time. He’s taking over and ruining your blog.
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Everyone is called to the Lord’s table, the clothed, the unclothed, even the semi-clothed. Why, even you!
God looks upon the heart, not a person’s tailor.
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If they became priests they could dress up every day.
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Pat, I’ve dealt with many Traveller Families occasions after deciding I wanted to work with them as I had many families call to my door and there were a number of settled traveller families in our parish. They truly tested my resolve but I came to realise, however much I disagreed with their style, I just had to accept traveller families as they are. It’s not my role as a priest to expect them to conform to my expectations. However, I learned much from my work for three years. I think priests today are much more compassionate and understanding. I wouldn’t condemn this priest as misogynistic or ignorant. He certainly behaved unkindly and uncharitably but Irish people in the past used lock their doors at the sight of a convoy of traveller caravans in the villages and countryside and had a deep mistrust and suspicion of them. I’m sure you recall such days. Sadly, there is too much racism against the travelling community. Many parishioners in the past have criticised me for being caring to travellers calling to my door. Yes indeed, there is still a great divide between the “strangers” in our midst. Just look at those anti refugees mobsters on our streets recently. Horrendous, inhumane, thuggish behaviour. Before I worked at some level with travellers, I may well have reacted impatiently as I recall doing two baptisms once and the carry on was disgraceful!! But we all need to change our mind set re: stranger, marginalised and those who are different in our communities.
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@3:06pm
Get a grip ya cretin, My comment @2:12 was the first comment I’ve posted today, dear Patsy can confirm that. The fact that a fool like you doesn’t recognize other people agree with me because you’re a pea brain. Besides Patsy wouldn’t let anyone take over his blog, he’s blocked me plenty of times ya bollox.😏
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Bishop Pat Buckley is an Irish bishop. He is known for his liberal views on issues such as contraception, homosexuality, and the ordination of women, which have put him at odds with the Catholic Church. He was ordained as a bishop in the Independent Catholic Church, which is not recognized by the Vatican, and has been involved in several controversies during his career.
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‘In the published WRC ruling, Ms Boyle said that if she was to find otherwise “it would be unlawful for Churches to refuse the Sacrament of Matrimony to persons who were divorced, or to provide that facility to persons of the same gender”.
“Likewise, it would be unlawful to provide access to Holy Orders to exclusively men to the exclusion of women,” Mr Boyle added.’
So, Ms Boyle let a golden opportunity slip by……for Ireland……it takes only one woman to start the ball rolling………..where has the settlement funding come from? 🧐
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From the Baaaaaaas. 🐑
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Pavee Point Traveller and Roma Centre
http://www.paveepoint.ie
Our mission is to contribute to improvement in the quality of life, living circumstances, status and participation of Travellers and Roma through working innovatively for social justice, greater solidarity, development, equality and human rights.
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If Travellers want all these things they can:
(1) Start paying tax like the rest of us
(2) Educate their children properly
(3) Drop bareknuckle boxing and shite ”call out” videos
(4) Stop intimidating neighbours
(5) Stop cruelty to animals
(6) Stop turning Rathkeale into a scene from Dawn of the Dead each Christmas
For starters!
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10.51: Excellent. So true. The discrimination card is used by this group all too frequently.
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Stop dealing drugs,
Stop threatening families of drug addicts
Stop burning down houses
Stop burning graves of dead people
Stop overcrowding A&Es into mass meeting places and disturbing doctors and nurses till they get their way
Stop parking wherever they want
Stop dumping obscene amounts of rubbish on rural roads
Stop getting social housing and move a caravan beside it to live in…..
I could continue but I only get an hour lunch break and haveto pay for our social benefits bill for this minority….
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2:44. I did not know about this.
Thank you for sharing. I will pass it on.
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Dutton claims he failed to grasp the significance of the national apology.
The Indigenous Australians Minister, Linda Burney, says Mr Dutton should now work with government to support the Voice.
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The Father is entitled to set the standards for his church , and what happens in it . It is the House of God , and not a free for all do what you want , and when you want it .
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A fine thick parosh priest. Once he has his pints and greyhounds he is happy out. Presume Ennistymon parish / Galway diocese will pick up tab as per usual.. if he wanted a dress code he should notify in advance to ALL families.. glad this not hushed up and being named and shamed..
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Should Caroline return the money? Will it only bring bad luck? All visitors should be welcomed like Christ. Visitors however should also be respectful of their hosts.
Pat, you and I both wear standard vestments. Altar servers have standard attire. There should be standard attire for those who come forward for communion and confirmation.
Fr. Cummins has been treated unfairly by the courts on this matter. It is a reflection of the problems of the modern day feminist secular society. Bouncy Catholics are coming forward for the family gathering. It pains them to make a reasonable contribution and yet they think nothing of spending big money on dresses and bouncy castles.
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Well!! I am shocked and DELIGHTED at your comments.
Shocked that you are a priest.
Delighted that you support Fr. Cummins.
Also delighted that you are back to your old self. Obsession is not healthy.
Thank you.
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You can tell that to Fr. Tom Deenihan. His obsession with persecuting Dom Benedict Andersen is very concerning. ++Eamon must rebuke him for his immoral behaviour.
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12:40 Any statement people make on an internet forum where their real identity is hidden should always be treated with caution.
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Agreed
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8.15am: So now we know that Seamus is a cleric. His refusal to go and meet BISHOP DEENIHAN, TO TALK WITH HIM, TO CO FRONT HIM is now understandable. Like the Cleric Bishop he complains about, our Fr. Seamus lacks moral, ethical and spiritual courage. Being a priest gives him cover. His concern for Dom B is a faux concern. Until we see Dom B on a holiday with Fr. Shameless, I’ll consider his comnents as bogus.
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1:44, shame on Fr. Tom Deenihan. What does he gain by persecuting Dom Benedict Andersen any further? It is completely immoral. Dom Benedict must be provided with his letter of good standing without delay.
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4:05 Tom Deenihan is just another spiteful Irish Bishop. They are a disgrace.
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Forgive my ignorance re rcc history, I saw one poster yesterday saying that mass said before Latin Mass came into being around 1570s I think.
Can anyone enlighten me on this🤷♀️
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This is what you’re looking for, Deaf Guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Tridentine_Mass
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Anon at 11.30am
Thanks a mil 👍re link.
Much appreciated. Cos I’m trying to understand why some people are overly obsessed with TLM. Sometimes I don’t get it re minds of some people when they defend TLM to the extreme.
It seems to me that Latin wasn’t the 1st language. It was Greek with a very long line of evolutionary trips into Latin.
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No prob, Deaf Guy at 12:00.
Have you come across the idea of fundamentalism. This is a twentieth century idea which has tended to focus on scriptural literalism or over-strict interpretation in Islam and Evangelical Christianity. In Catholicism it focuses on a strict adherence to the old mass.
The danger of these movements is they are off the scale right wing and tend to mute into imposing their religion on others including using violence. It is fundamentalism that leads to things like bombings of abortion clinics and the twin towers, or holocaust denial. The Latin mass brigade don’t like to be reminded about this aspect of their movement, just like Catholics don’t like to be reminded of the child abuse problems.
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When will you contribute meaningfully or rationally to debate around importantbisdues. Your volcanic eruptions of faux outrage laced with ugly abuse and vulgarity do absolutely nothing for abused people. You haven’t a care in the world about survivors as evidenced by your comments. They rarely refer to victims/survivors as you speak only of your hatred for priests, all too boringly repetitive.
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Anon at 12.48pm
Yes I have came across the issue of fundamentism via Muslim religion mainly. Also right wing elements which was associated with the Vatican during 2nd world war especially yugoslavia and’ nazi ratlines’,also mussolini as well.
The Vatican was rightly seen as right wing thru their various associations with cia, mafia well known killer in yugoslavia as well. I can’t rem his name but it was Archbishop Stepinac who kept in touch with him then back channel via the Vatican.
I’m quite surprised re scripture literalism. The scripture doesn’t mean extacly what they mean. Think it’s symbolism filled with imagery as well, hidden codes et al. I no expert on the bible just basically a basic novice beginner at that.
One thing that I don’t like about TLM is their fanatical elements which isn’t conductive for anybody mental health. I have been thru mental health myself via traumas etc.
The way i see fundamentalism is one of the most dangerous elements, which people lose the track of themselves in part or totality. I see it in some of it in TLM mass especially in Limerick at odd times. Cos they can turn into a full blown right wing and also fundamentalism. It’s their fanaticism that played their part. It’s that fanaticism which concerns me it’s very obvious in Muslim and in very right wing Catholic elements.
There was one priest who introduced me to TLM long ago as it was my first time to attend it. His name was Fr Charles Roux as he was bit offish and odd. I thought it was weird re him but it was TLM mass that I noticed him going into mystical trance which I have never seen it before. It was that starting point which I began to notice some people who went with me on tour went fanatical about it. I didn’t like the look of it. That’s where it began for me personally re association between TLM and the fanaticism itself.
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@12:48pm
Oh! please the NOB has been in power for years, these off the scale left wing nutters have not made any difference, have they? You lot don’t like to be reminded that all the abuse has carried on under your watch in fact worse. So the NOB should look to themselves before their usual Trad. bashing
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Anon@3:17: yes YOU; to whom do you address your comment? It could be anybody.
Or maybe you just need to have a rant?
It strikes me that comments like yours which criticise “somebody ” without any indication of the addressee are often ignored as irrelevant.
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Traveller culture and identity can sometimes be challenging to the rest of us. Not that that is a bad thing. Perhaps it leads us to see things a bit differently and to think outside our own box. There is always something to learn from people who do things and live life differently. One of the funniest things I ever saw was in the Waitrose of a very nice Home Counties town in England where all the local finest and best did their shopping. Four or five young Traveller kids came in to the store and within a minute had brought the whole place to a standstill. Everybody just stood around dumbfounded, even the security guards, and the young Travellers just brought the whole place in to dysfunction. Wonderful ! What I am hoping happened is that all those genteel people went home and thought about how there are other people in this world who live life in a different way. Perhaps they became a bit wiser because of their experience. Although, I expect that they went away huffing and puffing and blustering with indignation. No harm done !
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Like everyone else in this country travellers love a compo claim. I’d say we are in the top 3 in the world for compo claims. No wonder insurance is through the roof. On the other hand priests should welcome everyone into their church as Jesus would have.
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Regrettably, thus priests reacted wrongly. Yet, if you attend traveller baptisms, funerals and weddings, you’ll encounter multiple challenges. I’ve been part of such and was traumatised once when officiating at a funeral, the packed church was so restless. Half way through they all ran out to the grounds car park where a most frightening batte of forks, spades, hurleys etc….occured. One guard was on duty. It was the most frightening moment I ever witnessed. The guard told me to go home as quickly as I could. About 6 other guards arrived. No mass took place and by the time I got to the graveyard, the young man was buried!! All I said was a decade of the rosary!! Similar happened at baptisms I organised. So, while we all must be pastorally caring, kind and understanding, respect is a two way thing. We cannot allow mayhem happen at celebrations by any group. Many hotels and public houses disallow certain traveller families. We know why.
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9.24am Exactly, and the guards do nothing because they’re afraid of their shite of them. In my town it’s a bloody joke so it is .
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Fantastic result – fair play and salute to woman who had the guts and balls (ovaries) to take this eegit to court – of course he settled they always do – they don’t have any backbone.
Lay people need not fear taking Father or a Bishop or a Diocese to Court – it’s a natural justice remedy.
Clergy have a feudal mindset – trust me their training and worldview insist that they are the master and we lay people no more than ignorant peasants – well guess what Father the peasants are revolting.
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Our and them. This language is also discriminatory.
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So is yours. Most people in the world do not speak English.
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But luckily we do in Ireland.
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Pat, it’s after 10.00am…have mass said and preparing for a funeral. Are you out feeding the travellers or refugees? interesting court case. The priest was very wrong, however displeased he was at anyone’s dress. There are many issues to be discussed re: the interaction between settled communities and marginalised groups in our society. I think the Church has a credible outreach to the travelling community through appointed chaplains. The chaplain in our Diocese is superb, as was his predecessor. Many retired religious sisters have adult education programmes ffor ir traveller women and help with after school wirk with children. Let’s not forget these good initiatives. No group ever deserves humiliation.
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Leave the travellers alone – so what in your mind they might be dressed in an overt way for those who appreciate such things they are simply showing off their ample feminine charm.
They don’t have a problem we do!!
Nothing as purient or prissy than a homosexual priest – proper bitchy and cruel to the feminine erotic – jealous me thinks.
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It’s Fr Cumming’s church, therefore he gets to make the rules for admission, including the dress code. If you don’t like, then faic off!
I’m betting Patsy that you wouldn’t let into your wee oratory in loyal Larne just anyone. You wouldn’t admit a woman in summertime dressed in a G string and wearing no bra, would you? So why are you attacking Fr Cummings for exercising HIS rules in HIS church?
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I let people like that in everyday.
God looks at people’s hearts – not their boobs or legs
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God might Patsy, but the men wouldn’t. Their thoughts would travel south. 😏
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10.56: Pat, you are so disingenuous. Completely so. You are simply further humiliating the Priest. Travellers need to learn respect for others too. Why do hotels and restaurants forbid their entry? We all know.
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Bishop Pat you do annoy me sometimes with the shite you allow posted on here but I can forgive anything to a bishop who says boobs.
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Indeed – and just look at those who are presentable, dress wise & career wise, who don’t use ‘bad language’ and curses – their educated and well articulated words are often so evil, sarcastic, cruel and scathing of anyone who doesn’t ‘fit their bill’. I wonder what Bible they read. The Kinks song “Well respected Man about town,” put it beautifully….
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But it is not HIS church.
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It is his church, ya Gobshite. He’s the priest in charge. There have to be rules and someone has to make them. It can’t be a free for all.
I bet you have rules about how people dress and behave in your home, unless you’re all nudists with no morals. 😏
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11:05, no, it’s the diocese’s church and he is the diocese’s lackey.
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Call him what you want, ya eejit, but in the end the priest is the Diocese’s representative and has the canonical authority to demand that worshippers respect the Bishop’s wishes. If ya don’t like it, do wan!
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11.21
Where were you yesterday when the TLM was being discussed?
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11:40 The staff wouldn’t let me out of seclusion to use the ward computer.
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The matter of the wedding garment is instructive. It would be a gross insult to the king to refuse to wear the garment provided to the guests. The man who was caught wearing his old clothing learned what an offence it was as he was removed from the celebration.
Perhaps the PP should provide garments so that everyone can enter the feast.
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Those dints were provided with a dress code by Fr Cummins and didn’t observe it, ya eejit. They don’t get to make the dress code. 😏
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Fr Cummins was wrong and the law of the land sided with the traveller – Do wan and move to Iran if you want to oppress women.
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You do wan and move to the Netherlands if you want that kind if hedonism, ya cretin.😏
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Bishop Pat, can you not curb this abusive, vulgar fool’s language? He’s dragging your blog into a gutter, and I believe that he’s doing it deliberately to make a laughing-stock of both it AND you.
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On the contrary, the lady in question was modestly dressed. I’ve seen the video of the incident on YouTube. You?
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@ 11:40am
I made a deliberate decision not to involve myself with all the NOB lefty nutters my opinons are well known and will never change. I had a laugh reading all the usual shite. Wither they like it or not The Tridentine Mass will never go, so let them all gibber on like budgies as always. I do agree with the ejit who said Go Fanny Go I would only add the sooner the better. Hope that answers your question Netty, now do wan😂 Long live Tradition.
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Has anyone got a photo of how the offended Traveller woman looked that day? Could they post it if they have, so we can all make our own judgements?
Thank you.
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11.05: Attend a traveller baptism and you’ll understand. I guarantee you that you’ll realise why any person, let alone the priest might react!!
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11:20 Father is unlikely to notice anything!
https://amazon.clikpic.com/jpbphotography/images/narissa_christening_craughwell_2020_JPB_CC_7.jpg
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They book horse and carriages to bring their daughters to communion and make a mockery of it. One child had a train on her dress longer than any princess or duchess ever had.
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11:39 I’ve got news for you about wearing trains. The clergy can’t stand being out dressed:
https://i0.wp.com/archive.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/722_Slattery_Cappa.png?ssl=1
And certainly don’t like being upstaged in the carriage stakes:
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11.05am. See Anonymous at 4.15pm for video
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I’d say Fr Cummins is inappropriately dressed in that umbrella he’s twiddling. That’s my theology on the matter.
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I would say they have terrorised that priest after what he put her through. They aren’t a bit soft you know.
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‘And they like to dress up.’
The priests obviously get jealous bc they like to be the only participants in the drag race.
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Look it’s simple – the priest was wrong, the woman right, he settled out of court ie he paid her compensation for the hurt and distress he caused her – dress codes are bollox when your dealing with pastoral issues and his church should be welcoming- dress codes like you have in Italy or Malta say more about them.
God created tits and legs so let’s celebrate them.
Ps God created the clitoris too – the only organ that exists purely for pleasure – but hey I’ve never met a homosexual who has any appreciation of that wonderful gift of creation.
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As an asexual member of clergy. I am in the best position to stand by my vow of celibacy.
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If you’re a sexual member of the clergy, then how can you stand by a vow of celibacy, ya cretin?😏
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He created it from a rib, but strangely I hate being tickled.
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This priest is not god! It is not he who decides who to welcome into Gods church.
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11:40 I think you’ll find it is the church, ie the clergy, who decide who to welcome into the church. They tell you it’s god’s church to distract from the fact that it’s a criminal organization running a cult as a front.
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I bet he would have let Bruno in with his skimpy shorts on though 🙂
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Fr Willie Mullins broke the Covid laws during the lockdowns by flouting the law and declared that “no one got Covid at HIS Mass”. Bishop Phonsie Cullinan in Waterford & Lismore also breached the Covid laws. No Golfgate style sacking in the Teflon coated clerical world of Fr Willie or Bishop Phonsie this proving that clerics are a law unto themselves.
Note Fr Willie when he says “His Mass”!!
That tells us all we need to know about yet another woman and child hating misogynistic Roman Catholic priest.
Strange how priests clam up & go silent when their colleagues rape children, pay for abortions for their girlfriends and get their “volunteers” to spread lies about victims and families abused by church and its clerical and lay members.
Hate crimes against victims, survivors and families are facilitated on a daily basis by RCC clerics and their laity.
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It is his Mass, ya cretin. It belongs to him, and to all of us.
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11:50. Well said
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Thank you.😏
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In most sacred sites throughout the world, entry is declined, unless your shoulders and knees are covered.
I’m a man who was refused entry to a shrine because I was wearing shorts.
Travellers wouldn’t be welcome at these shrines unless they cover up.
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That’s right. I was refused admittance to St Marks cathedral in Venice for wearing speedos. It was really hot that day.
Patsy, you’re a very bold boy for going on about poor Father Cummins.
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12:44 If you’d made it a thong and waited till a priest was going in, he’d have let you in.
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Patsy you didnt publish more of my comments. Why? Was it something I said? I was at a wedding yesterday and couldn’t get to defend our beloved TLM MASS. Now I’m back, you wont allow me to defend our priests?
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Pro-tip
You can safely assume that when a Catholic™️ talks about defending something, it means abusing someone else. Just as when they talk about being persecuted they mean someone else is doing something they don’t want them to.
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You can safely assume that when a Novus Ordo lover talks about defending the NVM, it means abusing a TLM Catholic. Just as when they say theyre being persecuted, it means they’re doing something they dont wantthem too.😏
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1:17 Thank you for making 12:52’s point for him. I know you were just trolling but when you’re as stupid as you are it’s very difficult to predict the effect of what you say.
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1.17
Echo Bela is incapable of a reasoned response and just rehashes the comment he’s teacting too without the material going through his brain.
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1,26 thank you for making my point about Novus Ordo lovers and TLM Catholics.😏
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One of my favorite things on this blog is the way the cathbots repeat things back at people because they’ve got nothing sensible to say.
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With bigot priests like him no wonder so many of them are converting to the Evangelical Light and Life Church.
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Especially in South America. The only remaining strongholds of cathbotism are Africa and the Asian Catholics countries.
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4.38: Why do you keep saying this and never engage intelligently on any issue except to repear your sound byte? You’re very linguistically challenged, I suspect and an emotional retard.
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Willie is Willie, a tongue like a sailor. He’s the only priest I ever heard swear off the altar and it made me uncomfortable. There’s a time and a place, for dress codes and for swearing. He got reported to the nunciature one Christmas Eve for general absolution. I’ve known him all my 50+ years. He’s like Marmite, you either love him or hate him.
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Pat, if I turned up for Sunday worship at the Oratory in a Borat swimsuit, would you admit me?
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I would. I might ask you the reason behind your exotic appearance 🙂
By the way we have had several cross dressers, transexual, etc, in our Sunday pews.
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Pat if I arrived in a Union Jack dress like Geri Haliwell would you allow me permission to the oratory?
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Why not
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Fr Willie is just that a Big Willie and a Gigantic Prick.
Fancy not having the human and pastoral skills to defuse this debacle.
He’s like Byrne and H&N a laugjing stock!!
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Fr. Willie is right in refusing entry to his church. He is the pp. There should be more Willie’s in the church. Appropriate dress is required in the Vatican even by heads of state, it is a holy place not a discotheque. These people are suing the church to pay for there expensive lifestyle. Litigation seems to be the new game in town. Soon there won’t be a church to sue as younger priests don’t want this crap.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Feb 15, 2023 at 11:56 am
If there is one article of clothing in the Roman Catholic church I despise, it the bloody Cappa Magna it hasn’t even a liturgical significance, apart from exhibiting power and prestige of the Roman Catholic church.
1)Understanding the cappa magna | National Catholic Reporter
National Catholic Reporter
·https://www.ncronline.org › … 9 Jul 2010
2)Why the cappa magna makes people see red
Damian Thompson
June 29, 2017 at 12:10 pm
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Fr Willy has caused immense upset in the trans community that is not practical to fix
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Bishop I visit Belfast on holiday April and would like recommendations from you to visit many thanks
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My experiences with gypsies have been positive. I find them decent humans. I know of one family that aren’t. They stole the hubcaps of my friends car and came back the next week and tried to sell them back to him.
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I might be naive with this comment. Comparing abortion and paedophilia is like comparing apples and bananas, yes they’re different but they’re both fruits, just like abortion and paedophilia are both different – but they are both grave sins.
I suppose another difference is that in the confessional, as a priest dealing with someone who has had an abortion, you are having to deal with the healing of the person who has committed the sin. With paedophilia the healing is not with the sinner but with those sinned against.
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Apparently, Fr Daniel Seward has made his first public appearance in York following his sudden disappearance from Oxford last year.
I remember thinking at the time, Bp Pat, I wonder if he’s done a runner with another man, as you always do whenever you read about an unexplained disappearance of a priest or seminarian.
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There are two types of excommunicated people:
1. TOLERATI – Catholics can socialise and talk to these.
2. VITANDI – Catholics are to totally shun these ones.
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Re Daniel Seward: the Cong Orats are desperate to stop anything spoiling the recent successes they have been having and over which they are creaming themselves – namely, + Tubby Fatso Byrne going up to Newcastle, and Newman being declared a saint. They see these as signs of God’s blessing on their way of life and culture and the silliness of wandering around in birettas and acting as if they are all 75 year olds living in the 19th century. They will keep as quiet as they can about Seward and his doings in order not to caste a shadow over these things. However, it is not beyond the wit of some enterprising investigative journalist to take a look at things, certainly once interest in Newman’s canonisation gets in to the popular imagination and the press. Then somebody will spend the time and resources to winkle out what is happening with Seward and link it, him, and the Cong Orats and their antics with Newman’s canonisation. You can see the headlines already ! I think the Cong Orats would have been far wiser to get the Seward business out in to the public domain and deal with it speedily rather than letting it fester and spoil their canonisation WankFest further down the line.
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Fr Chavasse Cong. Orat. was Newman’s postulator. He spent six months in Rome in 2022 studying a course at the Congregation for Saints to learn the tricks of getting your man canonised. Chavasse, of course, had to step down from the role because he was fascinated with a young man who saw several good men banished.
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I recall Fr Daniel Seward leaving the Oxford Ofatory under a cloud because a mother accused that, dancing with her child at a dance in the parish hall in full view of parishioners, was inappropriate. Fr Daniel has been celebrating public Masses at the York Oratory for many, many months, and is in fact the parish priest. If you Google them, you will see his picture and regular news updates. More commentators should check the websites of parishes, and/or other credible sources, before relying on unfounded gossip on blogs such as these.
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Top o th morning campers. What a stupid thing to say hi. The two issues can’t be compared nor should they. The church does not control sacraments or the grace of God. Life is sacred. Respect it but
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I have a learning disabled neice, not Downs, and in some ways less capable intellectually than a Downs person. No matter where she goes people light up on seeing her, such is the joy her innocence, and banter, rouses in others.
People like her stop us from taking ourselves too seriously, and they ennable us to ‘regress’ emotionally, to make the sort of fun we did as kids. Society calls her ‘special’…because of her needs. But that specialness she possesses has nothing to do with her needs, but with ours.
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Ditto. I have a neice with ‘Cat’s Eye Syndrome’, Ceara. It isn’t Down’s, and, yes, in some ways she, too, is, less capable than those with Down’s. But she is an absolute delight and joy, and a God-send. Everywhere she goes, people light up with joy, just as they do with your neice.
A treasure.
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Can I gently say, that all public comments should be treated as free speech unless Bishop Pat considers moderation of the comments to his blog inappropriate and considered hate speech. I actually think that it is a mark of the man that he does not get in the way of free speech and encourages frank views in pursuit of truth, transparency and personal accountability. Yes, I would say that some comments are bordering on distasteful at times but I respect their right to free speech, after all we do not know what they have suffered in their lives to feel they have to express their opinion in the way they do..
It is all about tolerance and forgiveness.
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Here’s one for Chris Marsden.
https://m.facebook.com/MillennialCatholics/photos/a.735522813293394/1115166465329025/?type=3&source=57
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Your confirmation that Roman Catholicism and Ru Paul’s Drag Race are the same thing. 😂
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Fr. Patrick McCafferty is no publicity seaker. As a Survivor of Abuse at the Hands of the Notorious Brendan Smyth.
Fr. McCafferty has been good Support to me.
He has Criticised the Church for it’s Handling of the Abuse Scandals & is Very Good Support to SAVIA an Abuse Survivors Group. On the Abortion Issue.
He is Correct that those Practicing Catholic Politicians who Support Abortion & Come Forward to Receive Holy Communion are committing a Sacrilege as They are breaking the Commandment Thou Shalt Not Kill by Supporting the Murder of Unborn Human Beings within the Womb. So if they want to remain Practicing Catholics & Support Abortion they should come Forward for a
Blessing instead of Receiving The Most Holy Eucharist.
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Fr. McCafferty is entitled to hold his views re: abortion and refusal to give pro-choice abortionists Holy Communion. It is rather arrigant and very inadviseable to sugfest that he holds these views arusing out of his experience of sexual abuse, very ignorant to intimate that he is “unwell” psychologically as a result and that his views are influenced by this. Pat, that is a most unkind, unhelpful and incompassionate interpretation. I admire the moral courage of Fr. McCafferty. There is too much equivocation about the horror of abortion. Fr. McCafferty has been a great advocate on behalf of victims and survivors and has expressed his disgust and anger at the church leadership. To try to undermine any opinion he has on moral issues is ignorant of you.
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What do you think should happen to Francis who gave and encouraged Communion to the prochoice supporter Nancy Pelosi speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 2007 to 2011 and again from 2019 to 2023. Even though her an Francisco Roman Catholic Archbishop Cordileone had previously refused her
Or again Francis championing prochoice U.S President Biden’s choice to receive Communion.
·
1)Pelosi takes communion at papal Mass, defying some U.S. …
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › world › pelosi-takes-c…
29 Jun 2022
2)Denied Communion at Home, Pelosi Receives It at the Vatican
New York Magazine
·https://nymag.com › 2022/06 › den…
29 Jun 2022 —
3)Pope blesses Biden’s ability to receive communion despite …
The Hill
·https://thehill.com › enrichment › arts-culture
29 Oct 2021
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I have always opposed abortion. I should never, at least hypothetically, countenance it under any circumstance (though what I should actually do under the severe emotional turmoil of having to choose between the lives of a pregnant spouse and our unborn child, I do not know).
But even if, in this circumstance, my moral principle proved weaker, I should never call abortion anything other than what it objectively is: the intentional, direct, and deliberate killing of innocent human life, in a most barbarous way.
Surely, there is consequence for this at some point? Of mind, body, and soul?
Whatever the case may be, I should never, were I a priest or Eucharistic minister, refuse communion to someone known to be pro-choice, or even pro-abortion.
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Active Homosexual priests would nothIng more than this blog to be shut down. In the past they only feared the police, if caught cottaging or cruisIng, or the News of the World. Both are no longer a threat to them and this Blog is a massive inconvenience to them.
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Holy Family Parish, Dundalk are fortunate to have The Ryans actively engaged in the heart and soul of the parish.
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Oh the other one is in a sexual relationship with a diocesan parish priest. Pat you know the two right?
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How do they get away with this?
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Well they have hardly kept it a secret. The entire blog and Armagh diocese know about it
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I think the world now knows who they are 😂
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Oh patsy you are one naughty boy you make me laugh very much
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Well that’s the best laugh I’ve had in a long time. People can say anything here 😂. Not even if an alternative universe if you knew them
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Clerics should have mandatory HIV testing. It’s the responsible thing to do. Every Diocese has duties under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 to protect, as far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare of both priests and the faithful. Those infected priests can access life-saving medication and make the virus untransmissible.
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St. Luke’s Institute will give you HIV test upon arrival. This information is then supplied to your Bishop. If you are positive it is grounds for laicisation. Many Bishops in Ireland have used this. Be warned!
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If sent for psychological assessment at St Luke’s, they routinely carry out HIV testing and other medical tests. You have to consent to an HIV test, and I refused. They made a big fuss of my refusal and noted it in the report, but they can’t force you. Remember, by the time you’ve arrived at a place like that, you are dead to them. Please don’t give them any ammunition to shoot you down. I eventually left on my terms, but without giving them the satisfaction of knowing my personal medical history.
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3:41 Tell us you don’t understand the Health and Safety at Work Act without telling us you don’t understand it! 😂
As it happens there are professions whose work could place them at high risk of contracting HIV. But don’t worry, you won’t be able to guess what they are or how the risk is actually managed in reality instead of in your head. 🗣️
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I wish we could have back Fr McGrattan, Beavis and Butt head can clear off, they are ruining our church
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Fr Dominic McGrattan has that gay priest look about him. Butter wouldn’t melt, confident and autocratic, all hiding a secret being and life. It’s classic. You see it all the time. He can’t be a particularly happy individual having to deny who and what he really is all the time, probably to himself as well as to the wider world. That accounts for many of the behavioural and personality traits that are being reported – arrogant, autocratic, angry, unaccountable, exceptional, special, surrounding himself with yes people. Classic. I feel sorry for him. And for those upon whom he inflicts all his dysfunction.
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RN to be fair to him speaks openly and is not hiding behind anonymity. What was his beef with Dom Andersen? His support for the former prior seemed misled.
My advice to RN is to set up his own blog, even if only posting weekly, if he is so confident in the direction that a blog should take. Instead of giving off about this good blog
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When does this man sleep?
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Who does he sleep with? I think his guilty conscience is what keeps him awake, surely our lady would choose to speak with RN at reasonable times and not keep him up all night, she’s not a bad spud that way
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Not a bad spud, how very dare you!
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RN now believes what happened to Fr Benedict, is shocked by the revelations and feels as a former supporters and oblate of Silverstream, he has a huge responsibility to address the problems and make restitution to Benedict. I have not at all abrogated my responsibility on the matter. Another man, with much more background on Silverstream says he will sort it. But
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Pat do you think men that get involved with active priests are mentally unstable or just looking for trouble? I think they are unhinged
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If you read between the lines someone is sending you messages
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Yeah, messages that they’re stupid cathbots with nothing intelligent to say, trolling the blog.
If they’ve got something to say they could do the responsible thing and go public and blow the whistle on it just like all those priests did about abuse.
No, wait, I see problems here.
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Bring back Fr Aelred Magee – the Chaplaincy’s loss and the Cistercians gain. Things have changed big time since he left, and not for the better.
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Expect a package in the coming weeks, I am in the process of buying a burner phone so you and I shall have contact and then I will supply photographic evidence and then some about some very dodgy dealings with belfast clergy
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I see that NI’s hottest policeman has been confirmed as an Assistant Chief Constable of the PSNI.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psnis-bobby-singleton-to-act-as-assistant-chief-constable-40181075.html
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We witnessed the ignorance of some Roman Catholics during the Amazonian Synod in the Vatican, just a few years ago, when the hateful ignorant intolerant Austrian Alexander Tschugguel threw the Pachamama into the Tiber, what actually happpened was exhibit his profoundly crude understanding of his own religion.
Do Roman Catholics really know anything of the religion they profess to believe and love, or is it just a learned behaviour?
We all need to be reminded of what is expected of us, especially practicing Roman Catholics, who should know better.
Regarding Ms. Sherlock and Father Cummins, I can see the problem from both sides, it was very harsh to prevent a Mother from seeing her child’s first Communion. Maybe he ought to familiarize his understanding of the love of a neighbour.
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
“YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF”
Jesus said to his disciples:
“Love one another even as I have loved you.”1
2196 In response to the question about the first of the commandments, Jesus says:
“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one;
and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’
The second is this,
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”2
The apostle St. Paul reminds us of this: “He who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. The commandments,
‘You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,’ and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence, ‘
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”3
1 Jn 13:34.
2 Mk 12:29-31; cf. Deut 6:4-5; Lev 19:18; Mt 22:34-40; Lk 10:25-28.
3 Rom 13:8-10.
This is what I remember from the Catechism.
WHO IS MY NEIGHBOUR?
My neighbour is all mankind even those who differ from me in faith or religion.
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I just found the video on YouTube of Fr Cummins and the traveller lady. Tried to link but failed. It’s under “ Priest denies Irish Travellers entry into a church in Ennistymon”. Well worth a look.Very entertaining. Fair play to the lady she gave him a great dressing down ( forgive the pun ) And as to her dress I could see nothing wrong with it . She looked great
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Agreed. Thanks for the info.
There was damn all wrong with the way she was dressed.
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4:15 Nothing wrong with her dress.
https://youtu.be/wx5Pm605FHw
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Brilliant video. That woman is my hero. Delighted she got compensation . That’s what I call speaking truth to power !. She definitely took Willie down a peg
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Bishop Coyne is sooo gay.
https://m.facebook.com/bishopcoyne/photos/a.145945088812275/912007138872729/?type=3
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He is so handsome isn’t he
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Cardinal Dalys arrogance and bravura putting up a front. Church does thrive in secrecy and stealth as well. It’s an intelligence network. Thought this blog is about exposing church’s abuses and their corruption not gays. It seems it got sidetracked of what this blog is about- exposing abuses et al. Bishops here operate in their own fiefdom nothing else matters except for money.No wonder they’re sheer arrogance. Saw Bishop Crean at a rugby field new pitch opening. Locals didnt speak to him as they kept to themselves.
Is RCC dying here? they are barely surviving as next 10-20 years would be massive dent in their money collections. I remembered Bishop Magee wanted to build a church worth 1M. How crazy was he when looking back now but he backed down after local revolt. Cos their money would go to superslush fund of 1M.
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I am just back from a parish where a gay priest is PP and who had two brushes with the law over WC incidents. The people love him and say he is a great priest.
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But he’s not really a great follower of Christ, though, is he?
If his weak parishoners encouraged him to commit fully to Christ instead of causing him to dither by making him feel comfortabke where he is, he’d be a better man, never mind priest.
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Brendan Marshall appears to be connected to many questionable situations. Would you agree Pat?
– Ronan Sheehan
– Maynooth Summer of Love
– Sean Hickey
– David Dysky
– Ryan McAleer
– Amy Martin
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I’m really feeling the pinch, increasing rent, heating, electric and food bills and I’m really struggling to meet ends meet. I go to my mass every week and always give an envelope, but I can not from here on in and I feel bad about it. However; a fellow parishioner pointed out to me not to feel so bad as our priest holidays multiple times a year, drives a jaguar and dresses like a Next model. Maybe I should encourage my children to become priests and nuns?
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You could if they existed, ‘father’.
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4:39 do yourself a favour and keep your money to feed your kids and heat your home.
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D&C is heading for utter crisis. A few priests are palliative, there is a lack of options available, 3 are planning to leave for individual reasons and a reluctance to transfer to other parishes by the selfish stuck in a rut/have it too easy priests. Time for Eugene OHagan to sing his way into parish life and for lazy Gerard Fox to step it up.
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I work in a restaurant and everyone is always so angry and aggressive, even when you just ask them what they would like to drink it’s like “would ya give me a minute for gods sake” or they have only ordered and are asking “how long is this going to be” people have no patience
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There’s a lot of angst around at the moment. It’s never been so bad.
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You aren’t consistent, Pat, about dress codes in church.
Not long ago, you defended the wearing vestments for Mass as appropriate and respectful before God. Is it only priestsvwho should dress appropriately and respectfully for Mass, then, or should the laity do so, too?
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Would you allow in a layperson who turned up in a cappa magna?
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Yes 😀
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I used to meet a handsome traveller lad in his Transit van for fun. It must be hard for those with homosexual urges. He was always very respectful and grateful.
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Bishop Pat what is all this nonsense and carry on with these lay people running the dioceces and on big wages. I am scundered.
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You are disgruntled. These lay people are experienced.
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Remember doing a wedding for a young traveller man who was so clearly gay but he had no choice when he hit 18. They moved away and never heard from them after..
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The fact you display that photo of Fr Cummings is exploration of abuse on your part.
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