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LOS ANGELES IRISH / AMERICAN BISHOP SHOT DEAD IN HIS $ 1.8 MILLION DOLLAR HOME

BISHOP DAVID O’CONNELL

A Roman Catholic bishop in Southern California was found dead Saturday of a gunshot wound, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

Bishop David O’Connell was found in Hacienda Heights around 1 p.m. Saturday, Deputy Lizette Falcon of the sheriff’s department confirmed Sunday.

BISHOPS 1.8 MILLION POUND HOME IN LA

Homicide detectives responded to “a shooting death investigation” with a male adult victim, authorities said. The sheriff’s department did not identify the victim as O’Connell until Sunday morning.

O’Connell was pronounced dead at the scene, a neoghbourhood lined with ranch-style homes. It was not immediately clear how or where his body was discovered.

PAT SAYS

DAVID O”CONNELL was from Glanmire in Cork. He studied at All Hallows College, Dublin, for the priesthood and was ordained for Los Angeles in 1979.

He had a BA degree from UCD and a BD degree from Maynooth.

He also had a Masters in spirituality.

Currently, the LA archdiocese and the LA police department are not releasing details of the death, apart from saying it was “suspicious.”

We know the bishop was found with one gunshot would to his upper torso, and when the police found him, he was bleeding and not breathing.

He was a tireless campaigner on behalf of immigrants, the poor and gunshot victims.

I have a priest contact within LA who says he will keep us informed.

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The police are now calling the bishop’s death a MURDER

That means they are seeing a SUSPECT and a MOTIVE

LATEST FROM LA

My contact in Los Angeles
affirms the Cork bishop (rip)
was “un marricon”

Meaning “homosexual”.

278 replies on “LOS ANGELES IRISH / AMERICAN BISHOP SHOT DEAD IN HIS $ 1.8 MILLION DOLLAR HOME”

Pat appreciate what you are saying, but what if his death is related to other circumstances. This man has been hailed as an amazing pastor and extremely focused on humble ministry. Maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong. But let’s take time to let the police present the evidence.

The tributes to him are powerful and from friends in LA, I have heard only good things. Check out the link below.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/253687/tk

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10:09: seems that way, guy living in an expensive joint like that will have a top of the range security system unless one of his servants attacked him or something.

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Wonderful things, too, were said about Fr Malachy Finnegan at his funeral, and at the deaths of other abusing priests. And look how all that turned out.

Perhaps with David O’Connell some or all of these things are true; perhaps not.

Sometimes, it’s best to observe that axiom: ‘Don’t believe EVERY thing you read, and even less of what you hear.’ That way there won’t be any nasty shocks when the unvarnished truth comes out.

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1:36 clerics and their types excel at “controlling the narrative” to suit the toxic and corrupt RC agenda.

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No comments or speculation should be allowed until after police investigation. I find PB’s said comment from a priest insider to be out of order.
What sort of bastard priest is that? Judas??
There have been many praises in the press about his ministry to the poor and disadvantaged. As for the price of the house. That is going price in LA. It is like comparing Belfast/Glasgow house prices with London.

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I would agree and you can Google property prices there. The starting average 1 bedroom apartment in LA is $980K. No doubt there that a house will cost a lot more and it’s a diocesan asset provided for him to reside in. And by the pictures of it, I wouldn’t think it’s a luxury property but a normal suburban house.

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All houses in LA don’t cost $1.8 million. Why did he need 4 bedrooms and three bathrooms and why did he live in a posh part of the city and not with the poor?

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Bishops do need larger houses. They have offices/ chapel/ guest rooms/ rooms for their priest secretaries etc.

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9.42
Are you a bishop, too? It’s just that you’ve been defending extravagant episcopal living, at other people’s expense. It did make me wonder.

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Any area East or South of LA is far far from “posh”. Fr. TED was lucky to get off the plane before it departed Shannon.

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I agree with 9:43 no blog in relation to this story should have been published until this case has been fully investigated by the police. Shame on you Pat Buckley. If you had a heart you would remove this article immediately.

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O tbst. It really matters but the estimated price of the house at 1515 junla is 900,000.
People love to exaggerate, and what does his sexuality have to do.with it? Aren’t most priests gay anyway according to this blog?

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You have answered your own question, dear. He doesn’t have a heart. Nor courage either- as evidenced by the fact that he will bin this comment rather than publish it,

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why do you think the LA police will properly investigate this? i worked for Cardinal McCarrick and as a staunch pro lifer, McCarrick was ajways very supportive and helpful… U believe he used us because he knew pro life women would rush to his defense and we could never know what he was really involved in

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Attempting to shut down commentary or speculation will guarantee comments and speculation. Duh! Many bastard Judas types are in jail
for sexual crimes but some are still protected by bishops who continue
to cover up for clerical criminals. Clericalism and the clerical fraternity
are destroying the Church.

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Yes, they alone ARE destroying the Church.
That clerical fraternity you mentioned is out in force on the blog today. Anyone would think they were trying to cover up something.

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As are the bishops covering up for them, their dogged determination to refuse to be accountable speaks volumes and is endemic throughout the RC.

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Oh, 943! What sort of bastard priest is that? I suppose you’d prefer one who closed ranks. Kept unpleasant details in house? Covered up?
You people will never learn.

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1:39
They will never learn unless given a dose of reality such as a jail sentence.
Are they brainwashed requiring extensive collective debriefing or just
one big fraternal protection racket cherry picking scripture to suit themselves. Or both.

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9:43 So one is a bastard and a Judas if they pose a perfectly legitimate question that does not suit the agenda of the Roman Catholic Church.

Nice one Father! 😒

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The Judas bastard is the priest in LA betraying the clerical brotherhood
by mentioning “un marricon” to Bishop Pat.

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Roman Catholic Church personnel do not respect legal rights of victims, survivors, families or friends. RCC continually persist in censoring legitimate comment, “freedom of speech” and enquiry in relation to their clerics and personnel.

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Information getting clear now.

Bishop was shot in his home.

Big contradiction re him living in a very plush house while at the same time, he’s tireless campaigner for the immigrants and the poor.

Mary mc aleese was complaining about that bishop when world families came to Dublin. (WEF 2018 or 2017?).

As a consequence, his video was censored as a result of mc aleese complaint.

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10:01pm Good morning Deaf Guy.
Yes, easy for clergy to be generous with other peoples money. Guilt trip the sheep whilst living in million dollar residences themselves.
No doubt Bishop O’Connell had a good security system in his expensive property so it will be interesting to hear more as this story develops.

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Deaf Guy if you have any information on any crime you should go to the PSNI or relative police jurisdiction immediately.

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Anon at 12.07pm

Thank you and my apologies as well.👍

My post at 12.53pm with link👇

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Good afternoon deaf guy.
I thought that the bishop was saying that there is diversity in familirs and that times were changing. So why did
mary mcaleese complain about the bishop talking about diverse families.?

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The comment about the late Bishop’s alleged sexuality is in very poor taste. The hatred of the Catholic Church seems to have no limits. Condolences to the Bishop’s family at this sad time.

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9:17 He’s a cathbot and has thus bought into their narrative that they’re being persecuted because their crimes have been prosecuted. You may comment that only a crime fraternity would think like this, and you’d be right.

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The RCC made “sexuality” meaningless, with other parties then following suit.

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10:22 The Roman Catholic Church cannot keep avoiding the ONLY acceptable option open to them – redress their victims and all can move on. Otherwise the backlash across the world will continue to grow and intensify. Don’t forget Africa & Asia haven’t opened their floodgates yet.

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Have to say that my immediate reaction upon hearing of O’Connell’s shooting was that there may well be something more domestic about it than a simple robbery. And, that would include some element of involvement by someone who knew him, probably intimately. Which means a lover, a pickup, a casual encounter. It just fits a classic pattern of clergy getting murdered in their own homes. I think my instincts are going to be proven right. Now, that does not take away in the slightest from the man and his ministry and the wonderful things he was able to do. Maybe the way he was, his sexuality, was part of that gift. It just makes me think again about how frigging stupid the Church is in the way that it makes people like this bishop live his life in the shadows. Then look what happens. Allegedly.

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9.39 and 9.43: You make good observations. I think it’s regretrable that Pat has printed information purely to elicit sinister reasons for the Bishop’s death. The sentiments of appreciation already pouring out for the Bishops caring ministry are amazing, from all sections of society. The reference to him veing homosexual is an effort to create sensationalism and to destroy the reputation of this kind man. I cannot understand why Pat cannot wait until the circumstances are not fully investigated.

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Bishop Buckley, you desecrate the altar of God by your disgusting Pat says: This is gutter, tabloid journalism from a nasty, vicious and weird man who claims the title Bishop but whose treatment of others is satanic driven. You obviously didn’t listen to the GOSPEL for today. What a butchy bitch you are! A caricature of a Christian. You are a repellent piece of crap.

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8.18: Dearest Pat: There is so much much more you need to discover about CHRIST before you denigrate anyone. You desecrate the name of CHRIST in the nastiness of your judgments and readiness to pummel people into the ground. I find that there’s an ugliness in people like you who puts himself above all others, even God himself. There’s a horribleness in the way you execute others with your judgments.

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4:59
RCC hierarchy have been putting themselves above God for generations.
Do you think Christ Jesus condones the destruction of thousands of lives through clerical abuse subsequently covered up by bishops? Was such abuse and cover-up satanically motivated? Are RCC bishops credible witnesses to the gospel? You need to have an honest word with yourself.
This blog exposes abuse corruption and crime in the RCC.

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Big mick , another cork priest, is the one that desacretes altars, Bishop Pat just exposes their corruption,
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PAT
don’t allow these clerical cover up merchants intimate you.

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‘you desecrate the altar of God’
Your confirmation that Roman Catholicism is about the clergy, since supposedly the altar of God is being desecrated. In reality neither God nor altars are mentioned in the blog post today, only that recipient of RC worship, a bishop, who is equated by 10:44 with the altar of God.

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10:44 If you’re so concerned about desecration of Gods altar ask Amy to sort out the altar desecrated in Kildorrery Parish Church in Cloyne. Always remember never forget people are temples of the Holy Spirit including survivors of abuse by priests or cover ups by bishops.

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When will Archbishop Eamon Martin make a public statement confirming that the altar has been reconsecrated after these night time shenanigans that shocked and scandalised local mass goers in this Irish country parish. This question and the ongoing denial of letter of good standing for Dom. Benedict Andersen requires urgent attention from Archbishop Martin particularly in light of the fact that Dom. Benedict Andersen’s American oppresser and former Prior of Silverstream continues to be moved around and protected in a Belgian monastery by a besotted group of nuns and their Abbess. This is all most questionable and untoward as is the case of Abbot Richard Purcell who had sex on kitchen table of Irish monastery and is being protected by senior Irish clerics and their lay and ordained colleagues. The Irish Roman Catholic Church is now the Fawlty Towers of Rome and its high time that Archbishop Martin got his finger out and forgot about his Manuel dumb waiter act “I’m in Armagh and I know nothing” because it’s clearly not working. The Irish Roman Catholic Church is in a crisis it has created for itself and has made everything much worse with all its toxic ongoing freemasonry and coverups of financial and sexual wrongdoing.

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10:44 Independent Bishop Buckley is a kind Pastor with a genuine desire for justice for those who continue to be wronged by the Roman Catholic Church unlike the RC Bishops some of whom have been exposed in international media.

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Pat, how do you know he personally owns the home? And so what if he is a homosexual, have you any evidence he’s an openly practicing one?

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9:45 this blog was created to support victims and survivors of the Evil Devils and Malicious abusers and their complicit cover up merchants in the Roman Catholic Church related abuse.

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10:54 I neither possess or have a great interest in the body part you speak of.

In fact, I have not seen one for 70 years.

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The seething clergyman spitting feathers @ 11:56AM would be well advised to smell the Coffey and lay off the morning pints. The truth will set them free.

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This is a scenario where his orientation doesn’t matter. May he Rest in Peace, and may the Monks of Atlas escort his soul to heaven.

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Was he an active marricon? Why do they need these anonymous mansions? Bishops should live in accommodations attached to the cathedral or church. Kieron Conroy went for one of these houses where he could conduct his womanising flagrantly.

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Facts and evidence dear boy.
But being a betting man and because he’s a FoD and OfP and his outreach to the poor and marginalised didn’t prevent him from living in a 1.8 million £ or dollars mansion (oh the incongruity) tge smart money is on his murder iOS likely linked to his lifestyle, sexual orientation and double life – but as I began, evidence and facts dear boy.

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It’s sad when anyone loses their life. Was also saddened at the passing of one of my classmates, the journalist Henry McDonald. Paddy Walsh, the emeritus bishop of the cesspit which is D and C, once attacked Henry because Henry called him Father instead of Canon. May Henry rest in peace

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Henry McDonald was everything a journalist should be. Brimming with character, curiosity, talent & a commitment to truth-telling no matter who it upset. His breadth of knowledge was breathtaking. They don’t make many like that nowadays. Taken far too soon. Rest in peace my friend

Suzanne Breen. Belfast Telegraph

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“Homosexual” is now an outdated clinical term, Bp Pat, often considered derogatory and offensive, as opposed to the generally preferred terms gay, lesbian, queer, or a bit ginger.

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Some really excellent comments here against Bishop Buckley’s judgement on this article. Keep them coming!

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It is right and proper to carry this story and to marshal as much of the available info about his murder – if a homosexual (I prefer this word to gay, it’s more honest and precise) and a bishop who taught that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered (which he almost certainly didn’t believe) I’d say it will unravel with two narratives – the church narrative v the real narrative and I’m more interested in the real.

Does anyone know if trained in Ireland how he ended up in LA?

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All Shallows was for Irish priests destined for service overseas, usually in the anglosphere, and they usually went there because they could not get into Maynooth.

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5.16
An ignorant comment in every sense of the word. There were very many reasons seminarians opted for All Hallows Missionary College. The college, as its name suggests catered largely for diocesan seminarians who wanted to work and live in a diocese outside of Ireland. There were other seminaries apart from Maynooth which catered mostly for Irish dioceses too. Our sympathies go to the All Hallows community throughout the world at this time. Requiescat in pace et in gloriam resurgat.

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5:16 a posting outside of Ireland has always been a preference for clerics who have no intention of giving up sex but still want to remain on Fraudulent Frankies Roman Mafioso.

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I hope you mention this nasty piece of journalism in your next confession, Pat. This is one of the most unChristian articles you have written! You should be ashamed!

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Bishop Pat it is a mortal™️ sin not to stick to the approved narrative of the Catholic™️ church where they’re always persecuted victims, when in fact they’re crims who take it up the bum.
(Ta and Cs apply and salvation is not guaranteed)

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Piers Morgan was my first editor when I joined the News of the World.

He was very kind to me

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Reply to 8:30AM
A typically disgusting contribution from a man who sits in judgement on just about everyone else. While a family mourn a tragedy today the contribution from Larne is that he was an affirmed homosexual. For shame Pat, and once again your bias and your own issues come to the fore. Then again, we shouldn’t be surprised by this, as we learned from the appalling carry on that went on when Bishop Freeman passed away. Again, disgusting. Imagine the edict from Larne if any other priest or Bishop slated the dead like this. A good long look in the mirror is what you need Pat. You’re 71 years old now and your only joy in life seems to be the humiliation and destruction of others, be they dead or alive. Your hatred and bitterness has poisoned you and its such a pity Pat because, my God, you could have done so much good, even while the RCC did so much harm. But instead, you chose to be just as bad as them. Do you ever sit Pat and think for a minute of the immense hurt that YOU have caused to people while decrying the scandalous hurt that the RCC has caused. Again, I say, you could have done so much good, but not in this way.
Now, a question… do you always tell the truth?

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70 😉

A former seminarian personally told me that Bishop Freeman attempted anal sex with him in the Boilerhouse.

Should I not have published what I was sure was a truthful report?

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12:27 Do you mean that Pope Benedict shouldn’t have written his bitch slap expose which was only published after his own death? Things he didn’t bother saying about his successor while alive?
You will find that Bishop Pat is acting on a favourite law of journalists here, that you can’t libel the dead. And of course you are out of reach of legal action once you’re dead yourself, and I wouldn’t mind betting Pat has a few manuscripts up his sleeve for publication after his death.
Allegedly.

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8:29
Cover-up by bishops of child rape and abuse of vulnerable adults for the sake of the clerical brotherhood is UNCHRISTIAN and criminal. Are you people in a position is lecture on Christianity?

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Reply to 12:33PM
Typically childish response from Pat.
Disappointed that you didn’t answer my question and also disappointed that you chose to ignore other points. In relation to the late Bishop Freeman,you didn’t even wait until the man was properly mourned to begin your attack. I see someone on here defending you today, and rightly so, against the name calling but, your actions Pat, like the actions of the murderer, can and has destroyed lives. Your failure to see that, or your choice not to see it, is sad because as I say and will always say, you could have done so much good where the RCC failed.
Now, a second question… when proven incorrect, do you always take the necessary steps to correct the record?

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Freeman either did what he did or didn’t.
He left no wife or children, as far as I know, to becdistressed at my reporting.
His behaviour was a genuine and serious matter of public concern.
I hope I have done much good in my independent ministry.
Yes, I do take steps to correct anything inaccurate I publish.

Finally, I am not afraid of threats and criticisms.

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10:54 just because somebody is kind to you doesn’t make them a saint.
Phone hacking took place under Piers Morgan’s watch and his opinions verge on racist which is why he stormed off GMB after being challenged by Alex Beresford. It’s very significant that he hated being challenged by Beresford, because in Morgan’s mind skin colour matters, and Morgan didn’t want to be challenged by a person he believes to be his inferior.

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The Lenten season is nearly upon us. It can be an enriching season for those who embrace it. The gospels of Matthew and Mark can bring people on a 44 day journey from Ash Wednesday to Holy Thursday. People also have an opportunity to practice restraint from unhealthy habits. Where there is a financial benefit in doing so, perhaps those in need can benefit.

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22 days to read each one, brilliant. I love the way every Lent Seamus tries to take us through his own particularly pious version of the season by reading the gospel for the nativity on Ash Wednesday. 😂

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One for the housekeeper, one for the secretary, one for his favorite seminarian who is staying and a spare room for anyone who stays. Of course his own bed will be at least a double. A single bed looks so lost in rooms that size.

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Also one for a Chapel and sacristy. An office for the lay secretary, and office for the priest secretary

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No; it’s to stress his social status without saying it’s to stress his social status, like 18th century aristocrats. The difference is that said aristocrats didn’t mind the world knowing that was what they were doing, because that was precisely what they were doing,
Romanist prelates, on the other hand, have to at least make a show of humility. Hence the nonsense about needing all those rooms for housekeepers, secrataries, etc.

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Wonder why the clergy and others are so rattled about this particular blog entry – it’s classic enquiry journalism and no harm no foul – that it is now a murder enquiry leads to: did he know his murderer or did he not know him or her? Because he’s a bishop but known to be a homosexual it raises the question of activ in a relationship or purveyor of rent boys etc.
All v healthy this line of questioning and enquiry and let’s see where it leads.

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@8:46 – I agree, perfectly reasonable and timely questions to ask about this case and this bishop. I’m sure the police are asking themselves the exact same questions. So, let me look forward, and suggest what I think has happened and will emerge. Bishop O’Connell, whilst a good bishop and marvellous pastor, was an active homosexual who engaged in sexual encounters contrary to his declared lifestyle and celibacy. One of these encounters has gone wrong at his house, and in the ensuing disagreement / argument he has been shot. Remember, in the US there are plentiful guns around ready to be used. This is what will emerge. I don’t make any moral judgement about Bishop O’Connell, but it does us no favours to ignore the truth when it comes out about him, and the way in which this reflects on the Church and its dolt headed stubbornness in recognising that the majority of its priests are engaged in lifestyles that run counter to the public promises of celibacy that they make and try to fool us all in to thinking that they keep. Simples !

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8:46 They get nervous because they see themselves as vulnerable, by having people come to the door at all hours, by being vulnerable to complaints of abuse, and particularly, being vulnerable to their sex lives exposed.
I have absolutely no sympathy.

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“Un maricon” is not a nice word. It means “a faggot” or similar.

I’m not getting involved in the mud slinging or speculation, since I know nothing about the murder victim, but given that your LA source has used this sort of language to describe him, how unbiased/reliable is he, Bishop Pat?

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8:48 Welcome to the world of the diocesan clergy when they’re not putting on a show for the credulous, sorry, faithful.
If you have read this blog for more than five minutes you should have concluded that it is a scam and that is the way the clergy talk about each other and you.

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Oh I’m well aware of that and nothing would surprise me about RC bishops. They frequently show themselves to be the best advertisement for not having a faith.

But I just think whoever used such a word shows themselves up as well & it indicates potentially some hostility and ponder the reason behind it.

I shall watch with interest.

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Overnight Los Angeles media reported the property is owned by the Archdiocese, security cameras show no unusual activity, and the local community are not in any danger.

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Yep, fits with the thinking that this involves someone that the bishop knew and let in to his house. More than likely a lover, rent boy, Grindr pickup etc. Then it all went wrong.

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Nothing appears to have been stolen, so it wouldn’t have been a robbery. My money is on gang murder.

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Hispanic gang members Re generally RC and would rarely hurt or kill a priest or bishop.

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LA Archdiocese hasn’t got a great record with its bishops. O’Connell today, then there was an auxiliary who was sent packing a few years ago when it was discovered he had children and a secret family, and then the Cardinal Mahony who isn’t even allowed to do anything priestly in LA because of his gross mishandling of abuse cases and criminal clergy. If you want a glimpse in to the soft underbelly of LA, have a look at their diocesan seminary in Camarillo. All very orthodox on the surface, but a cess pit of active homosexuality in both staff and seminarians.

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In Pat’s favour he has published the criticisms of himself here, including some which have gone beyond evaluating his blog post and attacked him in person. The church has something to learn from hos approach here today.

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Your comments on this are disgusting. Let the police do their job. Why do you need to look for a scandal In everything. He appears to have been a good and holy man. You have no right to trash his reputation.

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I don’t think anyone is trashing his reputation. We are just saying what we see and what we thing. And, I think you will find that we are on the right track !

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At this point in history by being a Roman Catholic bishop he’s rather trashed his own reputation.
Are we seriously expected to believe that a great pastor of the poor would be a bishop at all?

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One of those words is redundant. Marricon is Spanish for bishop, or cleric generally. Usually the sort who wears cufflinks.

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10:28 But wait until Spain’s abuse crisis hits, then they’ll be called kiddy fiddlers the way they are in Britain, Ireland, France, Poland, USA, Canada, South America….
They’re just holding out there.

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9.37
There are only two US auxiliaries being ordained in February, one at the end of March and one in mid April. Which one do you mean?

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Funny isn’t it how when clerical abuse comes up the clergy start ranting that it is a family member that does it, thus ignoring the fact that your abuser is usually someone you know, and thus includes people like teachers, scoutmasters and, yes, clergy.
I wonder if they’re going to ignore the fact that very few people get murdered by a stranger for no reason and most murder victims know their murderer?
Y’all wanted facts. 😂

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11:26 Thank you for illustrating that cathbots like you are either so stupid they don’t understand a simple comment or so disgusting that a murder is a matter of mirth.
This is how they’ve treated victims of clerical rape for decades.
You’re also demonstrating the cathbot inability to deal with facts.
Thank you very much for such a meaningful contribution to the post today.

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11:26 I’m a seminarian and am, therefore sexually involved with everyone I know. It’s not my fault you were considered so unattractive you weren’t invited.

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12:08
The time and energy you spend and have spent for some years here with comments like this is ultimately wasted because it’s not healing you.

Your non-church related but still reprehensible abuse is having a devastating effect on you on a daily basis.

Please get help. It’s there for the asking.

Blogging away your abuse is not helping you.

At the very least, make an appointment to meet Pat face to face. If he can’t help he will be able to refer you to someone who can.

Pax et bonum.

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12:52 I’ve got nothing to be healed from. I haven’t been abused.
Thank you for your pretend concern.
Pro-tip: notice how the cult feign concern while trying to shut up their critics. 😂

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It’s Occams Razor with Catholic clergy – bishop murdered following homosexual liaison.
Otherwise police would have linked it with burglary.

French Cardinal found dead in arms of Mimi a prostitute – Jesuits insisted it was a pastoral visit but couldn’t explain why the deceased was stark bollox naked!!

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I would lay money the murder took place in the bedroom, or at least upstairs and not in one of the reception rooms.

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Pat at 11:16 the fact the faithful aren’t criticising him but are ranting at you further illustrates it’s about their clergy who can get away with anything.

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It all suggests that this bishop was killed by someone who knew him and probably with whom he was in some kind of relationship, probably homosexual. Actually, that is secondary to me. What I take away firstly from what is being said about him is that he was a very pastoral, caring, compassionate bishop whom people very much loved. Even if he was wearing the white cuffs and cufflinks which seem to be the favoured style of US bishops, and even though he lived in a largish house (hey, it’s only a bungalow !), I think he had the smell of the sheep about him, and that says a lot about him. What is sad is that this man, it seems likely, had to express a huge and significant part of himself in secrecy and in the shadows, because he decided to play the clerical game and live parallel lives – one the priest, the other an active gay man. How sad ! Yes, we can have a pop at him for his duplicity and hypocrisy, and I am sure many will, but what is even worse is a Church that imposed that compromise on him from a very early age. Well, look where that has got them ! I think it is just so very sad all ways, for him, his family, for those parishioners who evidently loved him, for the causes of the poor and marginalised that he worked so hard for……. The truth and transparency must come out about this case, but let us do it with a gentle touch…..

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Sounds as though you’re already making excuses for what you are convinced is a nascent scandal. You’re a priest, aren’t you? It figures.

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Yes indeed it looks ‘suspicious ‘ , why was he not living at our near his cathedral church.? Why was he In a leafy suburb of L. A. with 4 bedrooms, surrounded by hedges and trees.. . I understand Archbishop Gómez his boss is a member of Opus Dei
Why was he never recognised or talked about in Ireland. Is there more to come out??..

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Auxiliary bishops don’t have cathedrals.

It’s normal for auxiliary bishops to live out in the community

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Strange how there are no comments from the faithful saying the murderer is disgusting, just bishop Pat for his objective reporting.
What a bizarre set of values they do have.

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Objective? Are you a comedian? Pat is muck raking and once again trying to destroy the reputation of the dead. he has no interest in truth

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Pat isn’t muck-raking: he’s leaving no stone unturned, as are the Los Angeles police.

The truth about this murder won’t come out otherwise. I understand, though, that you would prefer to leave certain stones unturned, because the truth, ‘Father’, is something in which you as a priest are only selectively interested in.

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Just a follow up where I mentioned Mary mac aleese and that Bishop.

Link :

https://www.newwaysministry.org/2018/03/06/bishop-censored-acknowledging-reality-lgbt-families-exist/

From twitter :

The archdiocese of Los Angeles was epic fail with this incident. On Saturday evening masses priests were reporting the bishop had died in his sleep. This is another mess in the archdiocese of Los Angeles.

Link here location with photos

1500 Janlu Ave · 1500 Janlu Ave, Hacienda Heights, CA 91745

1500 Janlu Ave, Hacienda Heights, CA 91745

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Could you check with your friend from LA re address? Is it correct or not?

Send it here then I will post it up link to Google maps

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Pat,

The house 1515 that you mentioned is the 2nd house on the right side, not the left side as I thought.

Numbers are shown at bottom of the path FYI.

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It’s not unusual nor unreasonable to ask, what is the reason David O’ Connell was murdered, that is exactly what the police are doing right now. Hopefully the reason will emerge, unless the police are in cahoots with the Roman Catholic L.A. Archdioceses hierarchy, which in the past as was often the case between police and, the church, as was the case involving policeman Denis Ryan and Monsignor John Day a Roman Catholic paedophile priest in Australia.
So many potential reasons, was he randomly picked on. Did he hit on a heterosexual man, or was it a homosexual hater, was he murdered to obtain money/goods/by drug addict, some child that was molested, a lover. Rejected lover. Was it a gang member with a grudge.
To shoot someone is a violent act hatred, anger, fear, why did someone go to a his house with a gun?
Apparently Bishop O’Connell worked on intervention with gangs, by all accounts he was a very good man.

It must be a terrible shock for his family, especially considering the circumstances of his death, it was a tragic way to lose his life,
Maybe it’s the first they know of his homosexuality, lots of reasons for their grief and, sadness.
I extend my condolences to his family at this sorrowful time in their lives.
1)Bishop Censored for Acknowledging the Reality That LGBT Families Exist
March 6, 2018/8 Comments/in Hierarchy, Marriage & Family /by Robert Shine, Managing Editor

2)Detectives are treating Los Angeles-area bishop’s death as a homicide
Bishop David O’Connell, 69, was found shot to death near a church in a Los Angeles suburb. O’Connell, a native of Ireland, worked for many years in gang intervention.
By Associated Press Feb 20, 2023, 3:28am GMT

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Even if it turns out to be fuelled by gang revenge the headline here is how a priest of his diocese immediately got on to Pat Buckley about the bishop’s sexuality.
But obviously Pat Buckley is a **** for reporting this enlightening fact. 🤔

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How did anyone know that Bishop O’Connell was gay? Did he announce the fact himself? Or was he caught inflagrante de licto?

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I understand, Pat, but how did he come by the information? Is it generally known in that diocese that O’Connell was gay?

If O’Connell didn’t announce the fact himself, then it can suggest that he was sexually active, and that someone found out about it. Maybe he was being blackmailed, and it escalated to his murder.

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1:57 What’s it to you who is in contact with +Pat Buckley or any other relevant authority that assists those wronged by church members. The priest in LA or the granny in Timbuktu has a legal right to freedom of speech and justice. Wind your neck back in, open your gob & drink your medicine. It’s been a long time coming.

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Well, it’s certainly palatial like a bungalow or villa. Glad to see the preferential option for the poor is alive and well in LA.

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Mind you, a rich man is probably better able to be good to the poor, than a poor man ?

Jesus did not condem the rich for being rich, but for not sharing.

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One can be rich while living a poor lifestyle?

It’s hard to listen to a priest who waxes on poverty and its associated virtues (humility, meekness, simplicity, etc) while he himself lives the good life, even if he is generous to the poor with the money the poor donated to him. It’s like taking Christina Gallagher seriously while knowing how very well she allegedly lives.

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12.38pm

Indeed maybe none – maybe some – time will tell, he is beyond human judgment but not human investigation and in his case an investigation into his untimely death and a victim of murder.
Smoke and fire or innocent Shepherd slain in selfless service of Gods people – I hope so that would be nice but we shall see.
Glad it’s being discussed in an open forum.

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Let’s not forget that the Police investigating Nicola Bulley’s death (sadly the body was found yesterday) also jumped to conclusions about her death and discussed her alcohol and mental health battles with the media and none of these were necessary in the reporting. Could we ask ourselves if the value of David O’Connell’s diocesan owned residence (previously that of another auxiliary before) or his speculated sexual orientation are currently major issues to report? Let us not vilify people with idle gossip or speculation. Families and friends need time to grieve and we must show some bit of human compassion. What investigations may reveal in time will be another matter and will be dealt with through the legal system. But in the first instance maybe allow some dignity to be shown to the recently deceased.

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The Lancashire police did not ‘jump to conclusions’ about Ms Bulley’s tragic death: it made assumptions premised on what information (established or speculative) it possessed at the time. This is not extraordinary, but routine police work.

I assume you aren’t a police detective.

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What to go live on a press conference and talk about her personal issues with alcohol and mental health. The Home Office are now investigating this as a serious breach of GDPR and her husband is demanding answers as to why this needed to be allowed in the public domain.

I presume you aren’t a Data Commissioner….

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And I know you didn’t understand my comment.
The matter you raise is irrelevant to the claim by a previous commenter that Lancashire police ‘jumped to conclusions’ about Ms Bulley’s tragic death.
Making public those other matters was clearly controversial, but it didn’t involve jumping to any conclusion about Ms Bulley’s death, let alone conclusions.

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Haven’t heard anything from Church Militant on this murder. Odd. It’s the kind of incident one might expect it to be very interested in.

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David O’Connell was sexually actively when we were seminarians. I imagine he carried this practice on while resident in US also.

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Pat, I bever told you this, but I have told others. You and your blog forced me to change my lifestyle for the better. I was drinking very heavily, using illegal drugs and behaving like a lunatic in a sauna. I am much happier now and a much better priest. Without intending to, you saved my life and vocation.

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Your comment has taken me a bit by surprise, but Robert Nugent, without breaching confidence, told me another priest, and a seminarian said something like this to him.
In any event, it was God’s Grace and your own courageous cooperation that has brought you to where you are.
Well done! Persevere 😀

If I played a small role, it was as Balaam’s ass

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You were in seminary around my time 1970 – 1976.

I never had any kind of sexual experience in the seminary, and those who did seemed to be in the minority to me.

At the time, I would have considered sexual activity with a fellow seminarian a mortal sin and a valid reason for expulsion.

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He saved my life also many years ago after helping me and up to 20 other men get away with a caution for having sex in a public toilet. It saved my marriage to my wife and changed me to be a better man. Sometimes all we need is someone looking out for us to change our own life for the positive.

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3.07
I was in Maynooth ten years after you were ordained, Pat, and despite your frequent lacerating of it, I can say exactly the same as what you say about sexual activity in the seminary. In fact, there were men expelled from there for that reason then, with as little public comment as possible.

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Church Militant says that when D O’C was a university chaplain he had sleepovers in his house for members of the student LGBT society. That’s why he needed the extra rooms. 💅

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I am no cheer leader for Pat Buckley but he does provide us with something no other Catholic priest or bishop in the world does – a free discussion forum on matters that are not allowed to be spoken of elsewhere.

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2.33pm

Where else indeed. And furthermore where else if the baton of this blog isn’t handed on?

The clerical life thrives on secrecy and lack of transparency and accountability- in that sense they are a form of Freemasonry and there’s nothing Freemasonry hates more than the light and shining the light into the shadows.

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What Michael Barrymore did to that man in his swimming pool was pure disgusting, are you saying we should forgive him? Utter reprehensible

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Barrymore and his chums completely ruined the insides of that young man by putting foreign objects so far into his anus.

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Check your sources. I think you will find when someone is non responsive their temperature is taken anally. Hence the ‘ruined insides’. At the seen and hospital afterwards.

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While in seminary in Kilkenny we were all like rabbits, and it was just wonderful – Maynooth was not and the first nor last summer of love.

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Why would any priest or seminarian be confiding in Robert Nugent? They couldn’t be as unhinged as they are? Our Lady probably tells him these names.

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You might as well say that RN isn’t human, or that a priest is ontologically different from the rest of us.
We will all lie in the right circumstances,

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So you believe that OUR LADY is sending him messages in the post and when he is sleeping?

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Is Robert claiming the mother of god is sending him letters in the post? And he believes it’s her and not someone taking the Michael? Jesus I thought I heard it all, there are wiser than this man grazing in fields.

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His wife must be rolling round the floor laughing her ass off at this balloon, one might even suggest she is entertaining herself by writing him the letters herself and then sits back and watches it all unravel.

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3.58: I don’t think contrary views or analyses are necessarily from Pat’s enemies as such. I believe the reporting initially as presented by Pat was very prone to very sinister interpretations. There may very well be another side to the Bishops death but we ought to allow the investigation proceed first and validate any unusual behaviour which ended in the death of the Bishop. If there are criticisms of Pat, uts that he us preempting any police findings, thus eliciting some typical vitriol and nastiness towards the Bishop. Remember his family. Remember his parishioners.

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The Police will have this sorted in no time, look now we’ll they have handled the Nicola Bulley case.

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Yeah so well that the expert said she was definitely not in the river, one week later she’s found in the river naked

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They have handled it appallingly. Saying she jumped into the river naked because she was overheating with the menopause and was drunk is not professional or appropriate.

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Yea if you were really concerned about Fr Campbell you would be offering you sympathy to him on the recent passing of his mother instead of making snide comments about his appearance.

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Pat why were you helping 20 men get off with a caution for the public sex they were having instead of fighting to prosecute them, where you one of them?

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LATEST BREAKING IN LOS ANGELES

FROM LA PRIEST CONTACT

LOS ANGELES POLICE ARREST PERSON IN CONNECTION WITH O CONNELL KILLING.

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Interesting ! So, I reckon they knew who it was likely to be from very early on, probably from CCTV footage, or examination of O’Connell’s phone date / messages / Grindr account etc. All pretty standard. My money is on it being a man, homosexual, in some kind of physical / sexual relationship with O’Connell, maybe a casual pickup, maybe a f**k buddy. Pretty obvious and straightforward. It will, however, if I am right, be interesting to see how the LA Archdiocese / Gomez spin the thing. I doubt if they will focus on the bishop’s extracurricular activities, and will want to put the spotlight on his goodness etc., and avoid the obvious elephant in the room. Gomez is clever and sinister. He was trained well by Opus Dei. Watch that space.

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Reply to 12/52p.m
No, you silly oinseach. I didn’t say that at all but thank you for the poorly given lesson in law which I’ll be absolutely sure to remember.
Thanks more so for taking the time to give me a good laugh today, at your expense. And to Pat Buckley for allowing you on here. If nothing else you’re great entertainment.😀

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O’Connell is a bit cleaner and better groomed than Corbyn. White cuffs and cufflinks etc. I say O’Connell looked after himself. Corbyn is a scarecrow.

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I’m sure after his terrible accident Bishop O’Connell looked worse for wear compared to JC

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6.57: Pat, since you too are a good friend of multiple Dorothys, tell us the tell tale signs in spotting all these friends! Would love to know. That aside, the bits of information being given about the tragic death of the Bishop are beginning to read a predictable pattern. While I will hold my opinions for now, there’s a story emerging which we’ve heard before about other clerics. By all accounts so far this Bishop was a most kind, caring and loving pastor. Despite our suspicions we must not write off the legacy of his goodness to many marginalised people. Once again, the unrealism of living celibacy is under the spotlight. Thus tragedy is similar to one a few years back where an Irish man was murdered in South Africa after inviting a ‘friend’ back to his apartment. It’s very dangeroys for any gay man to invite any stranger back to his place unless you first know them really well. May this Bishop meet a merciful God.

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7:37 it’s also very dangerous when clerics and their colleagues illegally access and distribute private parishioner data for self interested purposes.

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7:13
DG, still no mention of Bishop O’Connell’s murder on CM website or today’s news reports which is very odd….

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Anon at 9.11pm

Yes, agree with your comments as its very odd.

My guess is good as yours perhaps 🤷‍♀️

CM know more about that deceased bishop as they had written couple of articles which mentioned his name. That said, it merely suggests that they know something more than we do.

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7.42
If that is so, why are so many of them opposed to Pope Francis and so conservative in their public personas?

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Because conservative and ‘trad’ clergy are even gayer than the normal clergy. Do try to keep up.

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That article👆 states late Bishop o Connell removed 500k from funds for the poor to another fund for climate change.

I don’t want to speak ill of the dead nor want throw mudslinging at his name. But CM article says it all for us-

There is a contrast between his champion for the poor/ the immigrants and taking their donations (which may have come from their side via collections) to a fund for climate change.

What does that tells you about the deceased Bishop? Enough said.

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7:53 Bishops appear to have enormous levels of autonomy on redirecting enormous amounts of donations to whatever tickles their fancy. If a mass goer wanted to donate to climate change, they would do that separately to the relevant organisations. Money handed over in good faith by parishioners to the church should not be used for other purposes.

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May I suggest that commenters read Ralph Riegel’s article in Independent. ie re: The death of the Bishop. His article is very different from the narratives here and he seems to have spoken with people of authority. Interesting article vis a vis this blog!

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8.15: Read the article yourself. I merely stated that it’s worth reading. Just another angle.

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7:59 I have no idea why you say ‘he seems to have spoken with people of authority.’ There is nothing of particular interest in the article.

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It’s probably not going to get posted, Pat – but I have to register my disappointment that you felt the need to let your readers know that your LA insider can confirm that this Bishop was a homosexual.

It’s almost like you think he deserved it.

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Why would I not post your challenge?

NOBODY ever deserves to be seriously injured or murdered !!!

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It’s a fair working assumption that most cardinals, archbishops and bishops are Friends of St Dorothy, so why is Cybernut getting the vapours?

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8:46 Most Roman Catholic Bishops and clergy are homosexual, it’s hardly news, more to the point, they are in breach of their terms and conditions of employment in the Roman Catholic Church. In the “real” world misconduct that brings ones employer into disrepute will result in instant dismissal and loss of right to pensions and other financial benefits associated with the role. However, the Roman Catholic Church is the gift that keeps on giving with its multiple protection mechanisms for its abusive clerics and members and its dismal record in redressing victims & survivors.

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Suspect arrested in L A in connection with bishops murder. Bishop found in bed with one gunshot wound. No forced entry

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I hope the cops don’t spin this, because it is beginning to look very bad for O’Connell, and the Catholic Church. The police will come under enormous pressure to tell a nicer public story about this man.

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The woman alleges that Bank of Ireland provided information to her estranged father that detailed specific ATM use to trace her whereabouts in England and Spain.
The woman alleges that Bank of Ireland enabled her estranged father to use her private data as an “instrument of oppression”.

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Apparently the suspect is the husband of a woman that has been employed by the Bishop for over ten years which would explain no forced entry as he probably had a key. A neighbour of his said that he didn’t look like a possible murderer, more like a grandfather . Curiouser and curiouser.

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Sometimes this blog drives me to despair. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that a Bishop of the Church has been murdered. Maybe you should all stop looking for gossip and dirty laundry and spend some time praying for the soul of the deceased.
Also lots of ill informed comments on here about the type of area/house style and price that the Bishop was living in. Hacienda Heights is a suburb in East Los Angeles, it’s hardly a glamorous or very affluent area. Although relatively safe in comparison to South/Central LA, East LA still has massive gang problems and a quick check of the LA crime stats will show you that Janlu St where the Bishop lived is classed in the 3rd most dangerous category.
The property hasn’t been listed for sale in decades, so would have been relatively inexpensive when the Archdiocese of LA purchased it and even now it’s estimated value is around $870k which is below the average house price in Los Angeles which is currently around $940k. We even had posters questioning the number of rooms in the house, many suburban homes in LA have more rooms than occupants, that’s just the way the American’s build their houses.
But hey why let actual facts get in the way of a gossip and bitching session. Let the poor man rest in peace and stop trying to besmirch his good name.

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