One of our Scottish correspondents writes:
“It was announced yesterday (Sunday) at the 11am TLM Mass in Sacred Heart, Bridgeton, Glasgow, one of four TLM Mass Centers in the Archdiocese, that the usual Celebrant, Fr Stephen (Dancer) Dunn, would no longer be saying the TLM anywhere and indeed the TLM in that parish was discontinued with immediate effect.
This is the beginning of Archbishop Nolan getting rid of TLM in the Archdiocese
The Mass was celebrated and the announcement was made by the TLM Diocesan Chaplain, Fr Gerard Byrne, aka The Naked Chef.
It was also announced that Dancer Dunn has been suspended (again) and had his faculties removed due to letters he has written publicly condemning Pope Francis, Archbishop Nolan and other Scottish bishops.
Dancer Dunn is from a well known Catholic middle class family. His Grandfather owned a Football Club, Greyhound Stadium, Dunns Biscuits and Dunns Solripe Ginger. His maternal Grandfather was a surgeon and his parents were GPS and Dentist.
This family has had too much influence due to their finances. A family who are well educated but obsessed with money and power and equally arrogant and screwed up. Dancer Dunn is no exception: an arrogant bully, mysogonist and homophobe. He rides rough shod over everyone and thinks he’s exempt from the rules that govern everyone eise. Not to say anything of them removal company here runs with hos white transit van which he charges cash for.
His comes from a long line of priests: on his Mothers side he is the nephew of the late Bishop John and Father Willie Mone and cousin of Fr John Mone. His mothers two brothers are priests: Fr Jim Sweeney, Passionist Provincial and Fr Tony Sweeney who infamously was caught paying off rent boys he’d meet in Public Parks. His Fathers brother, Fr Gerry Dunn, was a Columban Missionary who like Fr Stephen was obsessed with Communism, Fatima and Homosexuality.
Dancer Dunn has been a disaster in every parish he has been in and driven out of. He was only ordained as his Father paid for his seminary education and was Cardinal Winnings GP. He was previously removed as PP of Sacred Heart for physically manhandling primary school children and emotionally and verbally abusing parishioners and it was a disgrace that he was returned during lockdown & Sede Vecante period to a people he hurt & offended and who couldn’t wait to get rid of him.
He is of course a close friend and confidante of Patricia McKeever of Catholic Truth, 2 crack pots together and like Patricia he denies Vatican II.
Thanks to the bravery of Archbishop Nolan it’s good riddance to this drunken bully. May he never be inflicted upon Gods holy people again. He is the wolf in sheeps clothing
PAT SAYS
Its good to have this update on the Scottish church and TLM.
I’m glad to see the archbishop of Glasgow implement Pope Francis’ instructions on the TLM.
Why is Father Dunn called “Dancer”?
Is he good on his feet?
I actually liked Patricia Mc Keever when we spoke. I like her challenging spirit and her willingness and ability to challenge clerics and hierarchs.
GLASGOW UNDERTAKER IN COURT TODAY IN DOMESTIC CASE.
I’m told Mr Maguire is pleading Not Guilty.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
119 replies on “SCOTLAND – “DANCER” DUNN – AND THE GLASGOW LATIN MASS BRIGADE”
Pat did that young 18yo that was sexually abused by GC go to the Police about it or did he enjoy the experience?
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False dichotomy. Are you one of the myriad false “authorities” claiming to own our “experience” who clamour nowadays? Are you trying to sully the reputation of “Anonymous”?
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Quite the reverse, actually.
Dichotomy becomes problematic, even polemical, when it deviates from ortho-praxis, which today is a dialectical contradiction of Hegalian existential(ist) metaphysics. But you are right, of course. Sullying the reputation of “Anonymous” might be a moral step too far.
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Pat is this actually true?
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Yes.
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Disgusting comment.
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Well that’s Pat for ya
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What he did on that child was disgusting – a child struggling with sexuality and he violates them
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Who is GC?
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Gregory Cormican, best friend to Stephen McBrearty
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I stand firmly with Fr. Dunn, the Rite of the Saints and the tradition of Holy Mother Church.
I have no time for your false religion, false Pope nor your disgraceful “Archbishops” whose sole mission is to chaperone the Church to grave heresy. You relinquish the right to call yourselves Catholic, are nothing other than Roncallist administrators and you’ll answer for it on the day of devine judgement.
We’ll celebrate it anyway.
Soli Deo gloria.
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Laughing at cha! 🤣
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10.17io LL xx
Would that be Bishop Devine? Are you at the races?
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that rant reminds me why bishops dread the TLM brigade and want them to behave as catholics should.
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So called trads are always always sedevacantist, just some of them can’t see this is the only possible conclusion of the position they’ve set up against the church.
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Archbishop Nolan looks so gay. Is it feckin’ compulsory now to be gay if you’re to be made a bishop?
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That photo of Fr Byrne in stole and surplice must have been taken at a Traddy event, given the age profile of the congregation. Good for them!
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Yeah the reason ‘traddies’ are young is they don’t remember the reasons for the Council and have replaced the real history with a myth of a golden age in the fifties.
I expect they live in mock Tudor houses and have repro furniture to match.
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https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2023-02/pope-francis-traditionis-custodes-rescript-bishops.html
Cardinal Roche, of the Congregation for Divine Worship, issues a rescript claiming that Pope Francis made certain decisions regarding the interpretation of Traditionis Custodes.
https://www.fromrome.info/2023/02/21/cardinal-roche-issues-fraudulent-rescript-regarding-his-feb-21-2023-meeting-with-pope-francis/
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Mmmmm ? There are lots of bullies out there in parishes. How is Monty getting on in Northwood ?
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11.01pm – Stop stirring it where there is nothing to see. He’s getting on fine.
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I know nothing of Father Dunn, but there is an SSPX church in Glasgow, so go there and stuff the Archbishop:
St Andrew’s Church
202 Renfrew Street
Glasgow G3 6TX
Tel: 01555 771523
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The SSPX is riddled with child abuse and mismanaged it exactly as what they would no doubt call the conciliar church did.
I get that you’re all trying to get away from the problems but the trads, particularly not the SSPX are the same.
The trad and modernism distinction is part of the smoke screen for what is really going on here….
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Looks like CockRoach is tightening his grip on these latin, lace and satin aficionados. He’s got the ear of Frankie, and the old Jesuit is well used to using strong arm tactics to enforce obedience. A good SJ attribute. So, most of these places are going to be out of business soon, or at least heavily constrained. Probably having to get written permission from Rome for every EF Mass they want to celebrate. They are already forbidden from celebrating any of the other sacraments in the traditional rite. They don’t like it up ’em, as Corporal Jones used to say.
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10:10 There is one glaring error in your comment which in justice I am going to have to correct, which is that they do, in fact, like it up ’em.
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Pat,
Your Scottish correspondent does not have the proverbial clue. Allow me to quote the following, for the purpose of correction:
FALSE…
Dancer Dunn is from a well known Catholic middle class family. His Grandfather owned a Football Club, Greyhound Stadium, Dunns Biscuits and Dunns Solripe Ginger. His maternal Grandfather was a surgeon and his parents were GPS and Dentist.
CORRECTION
Firstly, while he took the nickname “Dancer” in good part during his days in education – because he’s a man, not one of the effeminate types who react like old women to such name-calling or to criticism (see the reason for his suspension. Unbelievable. You can’t criticise the archbishop? Francis? Pair of old women).
So, putting that childishness aside, your Scottish correspondent got so much wrong, I hardly know where to begin, but let’s stick with the opening batch of errors for now – it’s late and I need my beauty sleep, say nothing. Fr Dunn’s grandfather was a doctor, a GP; he never owned a football club, nor a Greyhound stadium, nor Dunn’s Biscuits nor Dunn’s solripe ginger. His maternal grandfather owned and ran a pub, 2 at one time.
There is a wealth of incorrect information in the above quote, which is used to build up the tone as the blog proceeds. Following legal protocol, of course, now that your “Scottish correspondent” has been shown up in at least one (series of) lies, nobody should pay the slightest bit of attention to the rest of his nasty attack. All lies.
I suspect this “Scottish correspondent” is, quite possibly, one of the (many) double-living priests in the Archdiocese of Glasgow; they hate Fr Dunn because his fidelity and his fearless preaching about the Faith and about the immorality in which they are steeped, effectively with the blessing of their archbishop.
Thank you Pat for saying something nice about me but no need. I’m used to insults. I’ve become quite attached to them, truth to tell, but I don’t like to read insults directed at others who are good souls. I am struck that the so called Scottish correspondent isn’t content with assassinating Fr Dunn’s character but also took a nasty swipe at Fr Byrne (whom I do not know personally, he will be relieved to confirm). Whatever happened to the concept of tolerance, accompaniment and all the rest of the modernist hypocritical baloney? Answers on a postcard, please.
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Nice to hear again from Patricia of CTS. I’ve never met her, but like her self-deprecating sense of humour, which is always a good indication, so often lacking in the Novus Ordo types. Father Sebastian Wall of SSPX Edinburgh also has it. Happy Lent.
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Yes, now that she’s not doing Cathbot Fables Scotland any more, hopefully Ms McBeaver will have more time to comment here.
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Thank you Editor of CTS for correcting so many errors by the anonymous so called Scottish Correspondent. This correspondent should be named and an apology should be made.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting or speaking with you. However, I have had the pleasure of exchanging e-mails with you.
I have also had the pleasure of exchanging E-mails with Fr. Dunne. I informed him some years ago that the Sacred Heart parish web site in Bridgeton had been hacked and that surfers were being redirected to filth.
I stopped contributing to this blog some time ago because of the priest baiting.
When I was informed of this post, I felt duty bound to reply.
Pat really does need to exercise greater moderation (many requests have been made in the past) and he could learn that from you.
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You felt duty bound to reply? Jesus must be proud of you.
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“he’s a man” What would you ken about men?
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Suspended and not before time. She was even dismissed by a Scottish hospice for being rude and uncaring.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%27GRUMPY%27+PRIEST+IS+SACKED+BY+HOSPICE.-a0100368560
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No harm to Stephen Dunn but I share the view of many that he is bonkers
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So many eccentric and self indulgent types end up as Roman Catholic priests. Intelligent, well educated, many possess untapped talent that would be better utilised in more democratic and transparent organisations outside of the RC. By the time the penny drops, it’s far too late, they are too compromised, too old, too everything. That’s what makes some of them so dangerous.
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9.50: Despite your cynical take there is truth in what you say. I believe that the notion of priesthoid for life is no longer tenable. Age brings lots of inabilities, health challenges and a weariness of spirit, especially in the present crises and environment within the church. While I believe I’ve committed myself as best I can all through the years, now at almost 70 life is very changed and different, that at times I just want to retire. It is very difficult to feel creative, imaginative, energetic and spiritually authentic every day. The demands by parishioners for the “usual” services remains even though there is just one priest. The present way of pastoral ministry is not sustainable for much longer. Amidst all the challenges, I’m grateful for the wonderful moments of ministry with people and for the blessings given to me. I don’t think any of us knows how to devise a new way!!
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10.50, you people really do take the biscuit in terms of breathtaking credulity. Your people want the usual services with only one priest and you complain about being overworked??? You work literally one day a week, Sunday, and you whinge about not being able to retire??? You haven’t done a hard days graft in your life.
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Archbishop Eamon Martin, Primate of All Ireland said, “As a gesture of solidarity with the people of Ukraine, who have been stricken by war since the 24 February, it is proposed that a day of prayer be held throughout the whole continent. I welcome this powerful prayerful initiative and invite everyone to pray in a special way for peace in Ukraine on Wednesday.”
It was a wonderful gesture by ++Eamon. Perhaps ++Eamon can organise a day of prayer for Dom Benedict Andersen and rebuke Fr. Tom Deenihan?
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Good morning Seamusviii,
We agree that Archbishop Eamon Martin should urgently take the bull by the horns as it is abundantly clear that Bishop Tom Deenihan will not provide Dom. Benedict Andersen with truth, justice nor his long awaited letter of good standing. This amounts to defamation of character as the long period to date without this letter will inevitably raise serious issues for Dom. Benedict in due course. Presumably he has engaged the services of a good lawyer as this appears to be his only option at this point.
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I hope Dom Benedict has the financial resources to sue the behind of Deenihan. Am I right in thinking a Cork & Ross priest named Dunlea accompanied Doms Dick & Coffee in the Silverstream visitation?
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8:25 & 1:19
A basic problem within the clerical fraternity is many do not take scripture seriously which has led to what Patsy McGarry describes as the terminal decline of the RCC in Ireland. Acting justly loving mercy or walking humbly with the Lord is NOT a priority. Dom Benedict situation is a case in point.
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Is this powerful prayer initiative virtue signalling to Vatican powers
that be? Maybe Amy wants out of Armagh to participate in the my
arse ministry of diplomacy in Brussels Paris or Rome.
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11 32: I understand that Dom Benedict’s friend, supporter and confidante, Seamus, is funding any potential legal or canonical challenge. Since to date there’s little progress despite Seamus’s daily declarations of support, it’s great that he will now set up a Go Fund Me for his esteemed friend, Dom Benedict…Now, that I’d support. Seamus, go, go, go…
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12.27: When you grow up beyond your utterly silly, stupid sound byte response, you might be able to express an intelligent comment. That requires some level of education. What educational institute churned you out into the big world? I’d sue them. The inanity of your silliness is mind boggling. My 6 year old grand niece is smarter than you. As Hyacinth Bucket would say…..”You people…..”. 😂😁🤣😂😂
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To her own sisters and brother in law – “May I help you people?” Lol
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4:50 I looove the clerical superciliousness and scorn on display here. Not giving that up for Lent . 😂
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Let’s remember today is ASH WEDNESDAY….the Lord asks of us to act justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with him…A day of fasting not just from food but from all that destroys our human dignity and inherent goodness. Let’s listen to the Lord sincerely.
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8:25 In the current economic climate, every day is Ash Wednesday for many on low incomes, Father.
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9.42: As it is for me too Josie. I’m not a cleric. The calling of Ash Wed. is appropriate for all Christians. Low income is a feature of my family.
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Why would Jesus want people to starve themselves? To what end? Suffering for suffering’s sake?
Is your god a sadist?
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10.07: No, my God us not a sadist. Jesus shows us the true face of God. Sometimes we have more than we need. To abstain from certain things we take for granted makes us more grateful and gratitude should compel us to reach out to others. The way of the Gospel is not easy but the essence of it is to make us better human beungs and to be more caring, just and compassionate towards one another, to be mire like Christ. No sadism, just mercy!
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10:39 Your God totally is a sadist, setting up his creation with a fateful apple in the garden and not telling the woman not to eat it.
So he then plays with them by making repeated covenants and lots of rules they’ve got to stick to.
Jesus shows us the face of God by showing us that he will happily sacrifice his son to himself to save them from the fate he himself had set up for them.
But sure when there’s a holocaust going on humans have free will and he doesn’t intervene.
This is why the church attracts sadists, sociopaths and abusers: they see their own cruelty in the face of God and immediately identify.
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10.39
Nonsense. Your god is very much a sadist, because your church INSISTS that its members fast; they have no chioce in the matter, otherwise they’d be sinning. (Or so they’re told and, unfortunately, so they accept.) The Faithful wouldn’t want to begin Lent with personal sin, would they? And so they heed and obey their clerical masters. It’s pathetic! Bending a knee to the men who leech off ordinary people, who raped their children, and who protected the priest-criminals.
In these hideous circumstances, any chance of fasting in the spirit you claim is totally absent: duress is not conducive to generosity.
Let’s face it, your church has a sick history of human oppression. Besides, we don’t have to fast from food to know we have plenty: Duh! We already know it.
It’s all just a silly gimmick. Most people in your church wouldn’t have a clue as to why they fast. If asked, they’d answer, ‘we have to’. That’s it in a nutshell, isnt it? It’s really all about controlling others through church laws.
Fasting for one day is mere tokenism. It reminds me of those patronising bastardos from the late eighties/early nineties who paraded themselves publicly blindfolded, so they could experience how it feels to be sightless (Aww!) and, therefore, to be able to “empathise” with the blind. Critics in the ninties mocked these fools by having a spoof International Year of the Patronising Bastard.
Oh! I had a lovely bacon and egg sarnie this morning. And on Good Friday, I’m going to eat as much meat as possible just to p*** off your sadistic, totalitarian, dictatorial god.
Peace.
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As a broad psychological profile of believers, yours is an excellent comment, 10.39.
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Excellent comment, 12:03. My only sorrow is that I successfully gave up the ‘Catholic’ ‘faith’ for Lent several decades ago and I can’t give it up again.
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I meant 10.52, not 10.39.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Feb 22, 2023 at 10:07 am.
Starve that would be a step too far.
Just a little restraint, much more difficult than is anticipated. Odd! How Roman Catholics for many reasons fast during Lent, some even for vainglorious, or health reasons, or to lose a bit of weight, or rest and revive the liver, etc. all very self indulgent.
I always thought that the money save when fasting during this period, was given to a charity, that’s is extra to any other charity supported, isn’t that what Lent is about, a little sacrifice & self-discipline. Good for the soul and, psyche.
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Of those that bother to fast, most of them intimidatedly do so for fear of incurring divine wrath. It has nothing whatever to do with such noble stuff as learning to be grateful to the Lord of the Dance for one’s grub and finding heart for others, especially the have-nots. THAT is a supercilious crock.
The Church is all about coercion and control, always has been and will be.
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Dancer Dunn’s rather privileged – albeit from trade – background and the exaggerated unaccountability it bring with it, reminds me of Dean Kennedy, who also comes from a comfortable trade background – bakery – and the trickle down economics that always made him more economically independent and aloof, even when he was in seminary. Also, a touch of snootiness about others. I suspect that the family money is being deployed to keep him in some comfort during his peripheral status over these years. Nice if you have got it.
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Just in from 10.00am mass and my God, what a huge congregation for Ash Wed. Amazing how the blessed ashes is still iconic for thousands of the faithful of God! Hooe they continue their LENTEN commitments.
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Good to hear. I’ll go this evening.
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Yes, Ash Wednesdsy, Easter Sunday. Oh! And Christmas, too. That’s about it for most Catholic churches and being filled to capacity. 😅 My own church attracts just about a third of its former congregation for virtually all Sundays of the year.
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12:08 Out of interest when was the former congregation you refer to please? Before the pandemic or another date?
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4.54
From years ago. Long before the Pandemic.
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Thank you, 6:16.
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I love the way you can almost touch the insecurity in comments like 10:59’s.
‘Look, we’re still popular!’
Have they even stopped to think that Jesus told them if they followed him they could expect to be UNpopular?
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12:21 take a much closer look at with WHOM they are popular!
By their fruits ye shall know them!
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6:48 I do occasionally but it’s most distasteful.
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10.52: All very confusing. A mish mash of poor atheism and shallow religious awareness, no congruity, no cogency, no meaning. Perhaps a study of Philosophy might enlighten your darkness and confusion of thought. God is wonderful when you find him. Believe me.
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12:10 I’ve got a degree in philosophy (and a real degree from a real university, not rote learning from a Roman university) and as a result can smell 🐂 💩 a mile off.
– Sniffs and wipes shoe –
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12.17: Like myself therefore: Trinity degree in arts and philosophy. Further degree in theology and psychology. …Good for you.
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12:37 You didn’t read my comment (far too eager to leap in and try to show off) or you would have seen the bit where I said I can smell 🐂💩.
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‘poor atheism’
Incidentally, 12:37, your education, had you had the education you claim, would have prevented you leaping to the conclusion that my comment was related to atheism in any way. How can a comment saying that God is a sadist be described as atheist, when it’s saying that God both exists and is a sadist?
No don’t tell me…
You’re a Roman Catholic aren’t you? 😂
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12.03: I couldn’t care what you choke on during lent. It’s your world, your choice. Eat all you like. Couldn’t care. You seem like you need a 40 day desert experience, like JESUS, but not to fast but to seek professional therapy. Your words are insightful of a deeply angst- rdden, passive aggressive, wounded child. Your pathology of inner imbalance requires urgent attention. Don’t allow your baggage of anger or hate weigh you down….
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The credulous, sorry, faithful are so quick to drop the pretence of caring. 12:15’s first three words are one of the few honest comments you will read here, honesty no doubt prompted by rage. Well done, 12:03, the more people see the reality the less they’ll be taken in by the caring facade.
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Only 45 comments at noon! But then it is ash Wednesday.
But tell us again how the main audience of this blog aren’t clergy.
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I won’t be going to any Ash ceremony. It is pure ‘codology’. I don’t need to reminded of my death. Ashes to ashes dust to dust and into dust you shall return. This was used to insil fear into peoples life.I want to be cremated when I die hopefully without clergy. I have already made my ‘will’.
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12.42: One less job for a priest but you’ll pay €400/500 for your humanist ritual.. Or your family might just burn you while drinking a beer…😂😁🤣🤣😂😁…At least you’re honest and I respect you for that.
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I left instruction with my funeral director that no priest officiate at my burial.
Believe it or not, Father has to be paid to perform (I meant, of course, ‘pray’) at a funeral: £50 four years ago when I issued the instruction. This sum is paid to ALL clergymen (and, indeed, to officiating non-clergy), so I dont know where you got those figures from.
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N Ireland undertakers seem to give clergyman £ 60
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In my Diocese, any payment from the undertaker is payable to the parish for the use of the church, organist, choir and flowers, similar to the fees scales charged by the CofE. Only crematoriums pay a fee to the celebrant. However, of mourners wish to give an offering to the priest, that is often customary.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Feb 22, 2023 at 2:04 pm
Count your blessing, that’s a pittance compared to a Roman Catholic Archdioceses of Birmingham, if a church is used for requiem Mass in this Archdioceses, even without the corpse, being in the church overnight, the CHARGE is £600.
That is before the officiating priest is given an offering.
Once bitten twice shy, I call it robbing the bereaved at one of the lowest point in their life, this Roman Catholic Archdiocese uses emotional blackmail to rob the families.
Never again for any of my family, either at the graveside, green burial site or, the crematorium, we are capable of nominating a family member to say the final commendation, get a bottle of Holy water to sprinkle, which I believe is still free (Watch this space!)
if it is desired by the deceased.
May God give to you and all whom you love his comfort and his peace, his light and his joy, in this world and the next; and the blessing of God almighty, the father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, be upon you, and remain with you this day and for ever. Amen.
Give a burst of Salve Regina, and send the departed on it’s way, job done!
Hopefully the Roman Catholic church will eventually price itself out of the equation, and people will see sense, and carry out their own burial prayers.
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Alternatively, you wouldn’t need to give anything for the funeral if you contributed to his income. If a parish wants a resident priest it should ensure he has enough to make a living. You’re probably one of those who would expect a priest to do it for nothing and who would be the last to vome to his aid if he had no bread or milk on the table. Moaners don’t pay. Payers don’t moan.
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2.04.. Southern Ireland…a humanist celebrant can ask such a price for funerals and weddings. £50 would hardly buy a match to set you alight!! I would be shocked if that’s all a humanist celebrant asks as a stipend…
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My funeral director is Rorke, of Downpatrick, Co. Down. As I said, my instruction was made four years ago, and the payment then for the officiator, whether religious or humanist, was fifty quid. (Yes, you read that correctly.)
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How much is a hole in the wall in the cathedral in Killaloe diocese?
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6:33pm it was about €1,600 a while back but prices may have increased for new section, it is popular.
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3:51
If a priest has not enough to make a living in a parish he should get a part time job.
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Absolutely! Some of them could be doing full-time jobs, if the truth be known, and officiate only at weekends; few are needed for full-time ministry. But they all have been trained as gentlemen of leisure, and work would demean their perceived social status.
Jesus is proud of them.
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2.14: Pat, £50…from undertaker…that sounds like the mid 50’s or 60’s.. Seems crazy for 2023.
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6.31
Yes. Provided he’s not expected to be full tkme in the parish.
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FUTURE POPE JOHN PAUL II ALLOWED PRIEST TO RETURN TO WORK AFTER CHILD SEX ABUSE CONVICTION
Kraków (Poland)
Notes from Poland [Kraków, Poland]
February 22, 2023
By Daniel Tilles
“The future Pope John Paul II allowed a priest to return to priestly duties after he had served a prison sentence for self-confessed multiple cases of sexually abusing 10- and 11-year-old girls, according to archival documents and interviews published in a new book.
The revelations come amid debate in Poland over the legacy of John Paul II – a national hero not only for his spiritual leadership but also for the role he played in inspiring opposition to the communist regime – with regard to historical abuse cases in the Catholic church.”https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/02/22/future-pope-john-paul-ii-allowed-priest-to-return-to-work-after-child-sex-abuse-conviction/
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Reply to;FUTURE POPE JOHN PAUL II ALLOWED PRIEST TO RETURN TO WORK AFTER CHILD SEX ABUSE CONVICTION.
I don’t know why anyone would be surprised by that information
He was such an old fraud, again people fell for his charisma, he was a wonderful actor and, played his part like a pro to the impressionable crowds.
Saint how are ye! Yes, Patron saint of sex abusers would be apt.
His relationship with Maciel & McCarrick to name but two deviants, of course both were prolific fundraisers for the RCC. Not forgetting his 32 years affair with married Polish woman Anna-Teresa Tymieniecka.
You couldn’t make it up, could you?
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Some Church of England Vicars will dress down to become humanist funeral celebrants because of the reddies. It’s easy money quoting a few poems, talking about the deceased in glowing terms and then listening to some poxy recorded bird song.
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It depends on where you are in the North for clergy funeral fees. Some tight undertakers will give £50/60 in various parts of Mid Ulster. Some in other places can give £100. What is wrong with certain undertakers is they Bill the relatives for a high clergy fee and give the celebrant of all denominations half or less than half cash in hand. Not all undertakers though, only somectight fisted ones. The more busy undertakers seem to rush things now by herding people from the graveside quickly like cattle in time for milking or when a dports game is being played.
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4.41: Some humanist organisers charge up to €250-350 for funerals. Look at the Irish Humanist Association Website. Some give a price for their services. Weddings may cost more…Most priests receive €100. All stipends are paid monthly by undertakers into a fund out of which sacristan, church and celebrant receive a percentage. Where families are financially challenged our church has waived any stipend and no one is under any pressure. All income is recorded and where applicable the celebrant must present details of this income to revenue. There is no cash ever. This is under new charities act. All income is now traceable by revenue.
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Income is not traceable through the ‘envelope economy’, and you know it, unless the priest is honest enough 😅 to declare it.
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7.19: All stipends for funerals in our Diocese are electronically transacted by Undertakers by agreement with Funeral Undertakers Association. No brown or white envelopes here…maybe in sime parts if the country but families must first agree to an amount.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Feb 22, 2023 at 5:59 pm
Death is a cash cow to so many from the undertaker to the archdioceses, it’s an underhanded money making racket, you only have to go and view coffins to realise it.
When I go, I want the bare minimum, wrap me in a sheet, take me to the crematorium in the back of car, go home and have a good old knees-up.
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I know a gay friend in Corby who advertises online as a funeral celebrant/humanist as an alternative. at the Crem. He is not even a humanist and rakes in the cash. Money for Jam he says.
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8:25 thinks you have to get dressed up in a frock and have a first holy cohummion to be a humanist. 😂
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Undertakers – robbers without masks, best described as thieves!
How can there funeral costs be £3500 approx, take away the box of £500 approx cost price and the rest professional charges, a brain surgeon wouldn’t earn as much, disgraceful rip off to those in time of need! Between the lit of them they wouldn’t have a half a brain to share!
If Credit Union death benefit allowance went up to £6009 per member that the thieves in black suits would follow suit immediately, shame on them.
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So let’s be clear, the cathbot commenters have described as crooks,
Social workers
Church of England
People who don’t give money to the church
People who only take their children for rites of initiation
People who don’t go to church
Humanists…
And now undertakers.
This would be absolutely fascinating to a psychologist and it’s almost like y’all are missing something obvious here. 👉 🪞 👈🏿
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8.09pm It is you who needs the psychologist Mr Cathbot enthusiast. I complained about the undertakers overcharging my family. Nothing more and nothing less. So away on to your sad paranoid empty and sad life. Pisspot. I bet you are tight with money and wouldn’t give your p**s to the pigs.
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9:55 LOL.
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8.09: You’re the cracked pothead here, sir. Your education seems very impoverished. Your life likewise. Your observations are very superficial and silly.
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Undertakers charge to put the death notice on social media.
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8:19 In Ireland I believe the rip.ie website charge the undertakers for the notice.
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What happens to the coffin, my sister is a complete snob when it comes to coffins. She paid for a very expensive coffin for her husband as it was on display during repose & funeral mass although undertaker told her it would be burned in the cremation process but is it really burned? Just wondering?
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Feb 22, 2023 at 3:51 pm
I beg to differ on that, I wouldn’t see anyone hungry, if I knew. I did state there is an offering as a thank you to the priest who officiates at the funeral, which is traditional, surely it’s part of his job description that he officiates at funerals, even if there is no money exchanged .
The £600 pound CHARGE, Birmingham Archdioceses demands goes to the Archdioceses, they of course have to inveigle the money by hook or, by crook to pay for their sex abuser priests crimes
(I never I would see the day when there would be a charge for using the Roman Catholic church for a funeral)
If the priest is hungry surely it’s because he is NOT being paid a FAIR wage by the Roman Catholic Archdioceses, it depend on the generosity of the faithful to give a stipend for Masses etc, to the priest to keep him afloat, what sort of an employer is that? I suggest a devious one.
When in fact Archdioceses should be given a living minimum wage.
There should be a union you cold join to ensure proper wages and remuneration, as long a priests remain subservient of course the Bishop have you all by the ba–s.
I love how they box you guys in and you fall for it,
Assent of faith to the magisterium and divine revelation (word of God), and religious submission to the Pope and other bishops, it wouldn’t be tolerated in any other walk of life, no wonder there is embezzlement.
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6.08: I’m surprised at so small a stipend. Your humanist friend must have another profession. Gave you instructed him to pour your favourite glass of vino over your basket? Some of the crazy things I’ve witnessed at some humanist funeral ceremonies must make the dead turn with embarrassment..and wished they’d opted for the dignity of a Christian funeral mass.
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Of all the things that didn’t happen you don’t get invited to humanist funerals. 😂
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8.04: Thank God for small blessings….
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7.20. A disgusting lie about undertakers. A foul comment and a tital lie. Ignorant and misunformed. The undertaker is not responsible for the price of a grave or for crematorium costs….nor flowers, nor musicians or singers. Get a grip, liar.
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@7.47pm I am sorry Mr Undertaker that I seem to have stepped on your corns. I never ever mentioned the price of grave fees, Crem costs, flowers etc – it was you that did. I merely pointed out clergy fees. Don’t get paranoid.
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7.47 Relax Mr Funeral Director, don’t let the truth hurt you as you profess to be caring and comforting and all while masked up as a thief!
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Opinion| DELUGE OF SCANDALS HAS ROCKED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Lisbon ( Portugal)
Portuguese American Journal [Sherman Oaks CA]
February 21, 2023
By Len Port
” As the shockwaves of last week’s revelations about child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church in Portugal subside somewhat, it is worth remembering that Catholicism has been at the forefront of atrocious behavior towards children for centuries.” “On and on it has gone. Clergymen abusing, raping and causing life-long trauma. The Church has at times been secretive in allowing many of these criminals to move to other dioceses or retire without punishment. Hypocritical priests have been able to preach to their congregations about the need to avoid sinfulness, but have they themselves been much concerned about divine retribution? ” “Catholicism is in steep decline in Portugal as in many other parts of the world. Some think the decline could be terminal in the decades ahead as young people become better educated, more scientifically minded and distrustful of dogmatic teachings. Meanwhile, it is ironic that young people from around the world are being encouraged to register as volunteers to help arrange the World Youth Day in Lisbon, which will be attended by Pope Francis in the first week of August.”
https://portuguese-american-journal.com/opinion-deluge-of-scandals-has-rocked-the-catholic-church-by-len-port/
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I’m amazed Pat, your followers have not commented on the looks of one of Santa’s reindeers. ‘Dancer’ is quite a honey. Bear/rugby type. But not one to be thrown out of bed. Especially as we approach another cold spell!
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It must be a slow news day if its some priestthat manhandled primary school children and verbally abused others! I would never defend or put down religion or its hierarchy or flock but in fairness, a slap when I was young was a lesson learned and what is verbally abusive??
I respect my local clergy because I appreciate they help the faithful and even though they know I am not religious. however I do give generously to their collections.
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True religion doesn’t mean supporting child abusers, 9:43.
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