Dear Bishop Pat,
Last week in his Ad Clerum, Bishop Philip included:
“CLERGY DAY ON WEDNESDAY 28TH JUNE 2023
I would like to invite all priests and deacons in parish ministry to an important gathering in the diocese on the 28th June this year. It will be an opportunity to gather and find out what tools we need to help us as we embark on our Ten-year plan of renewal and restructuring. Please make every effort to come to this gathering. The venue will be the Hampshire Court Hotel, Basingstoke, RG24 8FY. Further details to follow”.
PORTSMOUTH PRIEST:
Whilst this appears an innocent day of sharing and exploring his te
Whilst this appears an innocent day of sharing his ten-year plan, it is in fact something quite sinister.
In his usual duplicitous way, Bishop Philip is preparing to strengthen his “will to power”.
The “tools” we are going to explore and hear more about is the therapy psychological assessment and supervision that Bishop Philip intends to force on clergy.
The intention is to use this”supervision” to assess, diagnose, label, and control a rebellious priest and to “treat” him if he struggles to see things the way the bishop does.
This supervision has been “bought in,” and Heather Hauschild is the one behind it and is the promoter of such attempts to control “subordinates,” which she employed during her stint of damaging the NHS.
Any priest who attempts to refuse to rebuild the Catholic Church in Portsmouth, according to the divine intuition of the Bishop and Hauschild, will be diagnosed with a disorder and labelled for ever.
Just read again what Philip says above: “It will be an opportunity to gather and find out what tools we need to help us as we embark together on our Ten-year plan of renewal and restructuring.”
God help us in Portsmouth!”
PAT SAYS
Thank you, Father, for your communication.
Has there been any talk, or have you seen any evidence of psychologists or psychological programmes being brought into the diocese?
I’d like to see any evidence or indications.
I don’t think it is the bishop or COO’s job to psychoanalysis priests.
Especially if the priest or his agent does not report unwellness or problems.
It would be very Orwellian or Third Reich like for such things to happen.
I believe that it is the so-called “managers” that have ruined the NHS.
Are they now going to be used to kill off what is left of the RCC?
At source, the RCC, is supposed to be a spiritual family.
Are they now going to employ accountants and psychologists to finish off what the corrupt clerics and hierarchs have started?
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
234 replies on “DOES PHYLIS EGAN OF PORTSMOUTH INTEND TO “ASSESS, DIAGNOSE, LABEL, AND CONTROL” REBELLIOUS PRIESTS?”
It’s really simple lads – tell Egan to feck off but here’s the thing – not just one or two of you: a shed load of you.
See how the nurses brought the government to heel – do the same with Egan – like the nurses grow some balls.
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You are right. The priests need to grow a pair and stand up to Egan and his sidekick. Just keeping quiet and just complying is the easy way out, or rather in to a dystopian future. If Egan gets away with this, lots of other bishops will follow. Priesthood is already an emasculated role. If you want to be lackeys then don’t do anything. Hey, just had a thought ! Will PB JPL be first in the list for assessment ? That would be interesting ! Or maybe he’ll be given an opt out as Phyllis’ pet ?!
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10:57 You are absolutely right. However ‘lads’ is not an adequate word to describe them and they’re selected on the basis of being personally compromised. This has also been the case for decades, cf John XXIII telling the bishops to deal with kiddy fiddlers inhouse and not one of them telling him to fek off.
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9.17
We have come a long way since 1958.
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4pm the evidence suggests the contrary, Father.
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‘Any priest who attempts to refuse to rebuild the Catholic Church in Portsmouth, according to the divine intuition of the Bishop and Hauschild, will be diagnosed with a disorder and labelled for ever.’
I’m not in a position to talk about Egan but I can say with certainty that any man who is a priest in the RC church has in fact labelled himself with a disorder for ever.
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11.03: Pat’s blog provides a useful outlet for people like you, who, filled with contempt and hatred, are allowed to unhinge yourselves of all the built up venomous and poisonous verbiage, aimed of course at clerics. Sonny, you’ll be long pushing up the daisies or smouldering in a furnace while the People of God through Christ continue in existence. Where does all your poisonous rage get you? Are you any more at peace in yourself after this outpouring? I doubt it. Now, perhaps you might calm a little today….🙏🙏🙏🙏..
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7:52 It gets him living in your head rent free. 😂
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7.52
Wow! Any hatred and rage expressed here is coming from you, not from the poster you histrionically attacked.
This is it with Romanist priests, isnt it? How you hate not being in the ascendency, not being in control: not being treated deferentially by the laity; not having them genuflect to you in deep, complaisant and compliant reverence. Its called ‘narcissism’. And you, darling, have it in shovelfuls.
No need for you to attend that little symposium by Egan and Hauschild: with an ego as big and as easily triggered as yours, I’m sure Eagan already has an accurate psychological profile of you.
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I, of course, meant ‘ascendant’, not ‘ascendency’ at 10.22.
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10:22, I am 11:03 and was going to make pretty much the comments you’ve made in your excellent reply. 👌 So thank you. 🙏
(They actually do think they’re gods don’t they)
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@7:52.
There is just no hope of renewal for the Roman Catholic Church when one reads here on this blog and elsewhere the vile outpouring of daily & relentless stalking & abuse & vitriol spewing from the Roman Catholic clergy and their outwardly devout pillars of the community who choose for their own personal & business reasons and motivations to punch their keyboards with repetitive hate and malice toward long suffering and traumatised victims, survivors, families & supporters of those seeking truth and justice against church related abuse, corruption & criminality.
Many of these clergy & their colleagues are also so presumptively paranoid that they imagine that they know or have any right to know the identity of traumatised victims of church related criminality being assisted by Bishop Pat Buckley and other relevant organisations.
Such clergy and their colleagues are beneath contempt.
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@7:52
Note how paranoid clerics and their types always seem to “imagine” that they are addressing
a. A child
b. A young man (see:Sonny)!
c. A woman
Reminds one of a pp noted by many for inappropriately addressing mature women as “girls”.
The harrassment meted out in Roman Catholic seminaries to new entrants from the outset is self explanatory in confirming the abusive mindset of those in ministry in the RCC.
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10.22
But you are that poster. Your accent, like Simon Peter’s betrays you.
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11.20
It may help to understand that addressing women as girls and men as boys even though they may be in their 90’s is a term of endearment in the Irish language and in English where it is spoken by people of Irish descent.
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7:52 dreadful manner in which to speak to someone vulnerable who has been wronged by your church, Father.
You and your colleagues are a total disgrace.
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11:03. True! It’s that ordination “ontological challenging” thingey: certainly leaves its mark on them. You can see the effects in Anon@ 7:52’s comments.
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“Ontologically CHALLENGING”: nice one. So true.
‘Indelible mark, or so I hear.
Makes the darlings go all queer.
Elevates their sense of poise.
Separates the men from boys.
The Roman church goes on and on,
a massive fraud: eternal con.
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John Betjeman has contacted the blog from the beyond at 10:16! I’d recognize the style anywhere.
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11:03 if he brings a nice plate of kedgeree he’s welcome back anytime!
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@8.29 am
I agree!
There is no ontological change! They are just the same as they were before. No abracadabra.
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“John’s not gone: 11:03.
Still around, as you can see.
Full of mirth, it’s grand “up here.”
Without the priests we know no fear.
If truth be told, they’re rather rare.
Oul Nick says they’re all ‘down there.’
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11.03
John Betjeman never wrote doggerel when he was here below.
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Anon @ 12.08.
Abracadabra Abracazoo.
Here’s what ‘priesthood’ can do for you.
A sense of status: head of the queue,
Those faithful cathbots will kow-tow to you.
A constant esteem and privileged life,
gives cushy employment and freedom from strife.
Your Roman collar’s an essential tool,
for catbots to pay you ‘act the fool’.
Shure this ‘Christian stuff’ is just a farce.
Be No 1, Let them ‘kiss my ar$e’.
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I’ve no problem with workplace assessment, annual appraisal etc such as you find in many organisations. In my experience it has always, when done properly and respectfully, been a useful tool for awareness, for improvement, for achieving goals, and if necessary in addressing shortcomings. Nothing wrong with that. However, I have never felt in those situations that I was being ‘diagnosed’ or ‘psychoanalysed’ or put under any psychological assessment. There are degrees to being ‘on side’ with the management, and I have often felt myself not onside, and always been able to express that without prejudice and to talk it through. However, if Egan is intent on singling out and isolating people who are not completely on side with him, and might take a different view to him, then that is prejudicial and sinister. It is coercive, authoritarian and fascist. He could well find himself the subject of all sorts of workplace claims and discrimination suits etc. Remember, the days of the Church and bishops being outside the law of the land are long since gone, and Egan could find himself before an employment tribunal or worse if he behaves in ways which are deemed to be against the laws of this land. He needs to be very careful.
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11:05 I suspect Pat’s correspondent has never been appraised in any way and is feeling the pain at the idea of somebody else telling him how they think he’s doing. In reality employers frequently have occupational health and you can be suspended on medical grounds if your employer doesn’t think you’re fit to do the job.
Father has just never been given any feedback except unconditional adulation before.
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Egan can’t find himself before an employment tribunal, priests aren’t legally employed. And they’ll find they’ve consented to the assessments if they try that route.
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Yes, priests are legally considered as self-employed. Pat can confirm this.
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Yes. But I thought there was some recent change over a case in the UK ????
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Pat at 10:43 wasn’t that about a C of E cleric? Their Ts and Cs are rather different and I have no idea how that would work in reality.
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9:32 if priests are not employed, are they not paying a national insurance stamp so where do they receive a retirement pension from??
Are priests paid a self employed rate of State pension and is there a contribution from the Vatican to international state pensions departments in the various countries worldwide.
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11.26
Priests’ pensions are paid by the Sheep. Even in genteel retirement, priests continue to sponge off the laity. What do you think the collections for sick and retired priests are all about?
Priests could pay their own national insurance contributions while in ministry to allow them a State pension on retirement, but the vast majority choose to spend the money on themselves, because they know that they can rely on the sentimentalism of the Sheep to care for them in later life. It’s one of the greatest con-jobs in history.😕
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I always paid my own Nat insurance stamps and get the state pension.
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11:26 There are three categories of National Insurance contributions in the UK
1 for employed people
2 for self employed
3 voluntary for everyone else.
So in fact everyone can pay NI, you don’t have to be employed.
This is the most factual comment you will ever read on this blog.
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I paid self employed stamps for 42 years
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I don’t see evidence of anything sinister in the Bishop’s communication. If, as is being suggested, his new way involves psychological assessment of clergy, I’d rail against it with all my might. Spiritual renewal is more important. Seeking more imaginative and relevant ways to live priesthood and celibacy and to be a more inclusive, repentant and humbler church would be far more important than playing mind games with priests. It’s speculation as to the Bishop’s intentions but psychologically analysing priests is a dangerous game. If a priest is not psychologically unwell, he should not be subjected to this abuse of power. Pat, can you ascertain asap what the priest informant knows re: his concerns or if he knows about such a programme to be foisted on clergy. God help us. When I required some important support in the not too distant past my doctor found a super therapist for me. I would not ever give my bishop such information. I believe and I’ve advocated for this, that every Diocese should have a team of lay professional therapists available for priests who are psychologically ill. I paid for all sessions my self and was money well spent. Bishops are to be shepherds for people and clergy, not little gods playing mental, emotional, or spiritual gymnastics with anyone.
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In Birmingham Archdiocese all active diocesan priests are members of the diocese’s Medical Help/Health Fund for a modest annual fee. This ensures that they can access independent private medical or mental health services quickly without worrying about NHS waiting times and without personal financial cost.
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Ah, yes! Good to see these parasites have the ‘smell of the sheep’ about them. You know, the families that can ill-afford to feed themselves and keep themselves warm in these times, never mind afford private medical care.
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They deserve to jump the queue as they are busy saving souls
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Psychological assessment of prospective seminarians has been going on for years as part of the selection process. Check out the St Luke Institute in Manchester. They were also involved in counselling the seminarians at the propaedeutic seminary in Valladolid, Spain. St Luke’s has attracted adverse comments about their staff’s attitude to pelvic urges.
Leon Podles noted the psychological vetting in US seminaries. You might have assumed that it was designed to weed out the gays and obvious crackpots. Leon declared that it failed on both counts.
Are St Luke’s are going to be involved in this new Portsmouth initiative or has COO Heather got some of her NHS buddies in mind?
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The head of St Lukes who was also a trustee of the Manchester setup..the rather brilliantly named Fr Edward Arsenault..if I remember rightly…was removed several years ago as it turned out he was having an affair with another male – a christian country and western singer. Mr Arsenault had spent a shedload of church money on hotels etc so he could be with his lover. Perhaps they skipped the psychological assessment when they recruited him to St Lukes?! RCC. You couldn’t make it up.
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Pat, referring to the Dancer Dunn blog, why is Fr. Gérard Byrne called the Naked Chef?
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Yeah – intriguing? And why “dancer”?
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8:04
Stop fishing
He’s extremely light on his feet
Those who know, know….
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Couldn’t be happier that the RC INSTITUTIONAL church is in terminal decline.
The sooner Christ’s followers divest themselves of the unintended burden of priesthood and clergy, so very much the better.😊
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Yes@12:59. And it’s so obvious.
But many RC clerics are oblivious to it. They don’t like the thought of their cherished status eroding faster and faster as knowledge of their irrelevance increases and awareness of their misdeeds empowers their rejection.
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Phil the builder
Can we fix it?
Phil the builder
Yes we can
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Roman Catholic priests and their teams of self interested lay & clerical hoods have been assessing, diagnosing, labelling and vigorously and shamelessly attempting to control the narrative to discredit anyone they perceive will pose a risk to exposing the truth about the RCC for quite some time now.
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In any “normal” organisation this conduct by the Bishop and his in-house retained Consultant Gestapo would be challenged by the appropriate authorities, it is workplace harrassment and another method of perverting the course of justice. Would be whistleblowers will be “labelled & discredited” in advance of them “blowing the whistle of truth about RCC corruption”.
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Another cleric showing they’ve never had a job. What is actually planned is normal workplace performance management. You’ve just never experienced it and are reacting accordingly (and hilariously).
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The Roman Catholic Mafia will do whatever it takes to protect their wealth from the children and vulnerable persons they’ve used and abused for decades.
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The Roman Catholic Bishops have been overseeing the placement of both paid and volunteer lay white collared types who assist them on implementing innovative methods of circumventing the law and RC obligations to victims & survivors for decades now.
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Egan and his hench (woman) are a pack of cards, shadows and literally here today gone tomorrow – scratch the surface and they crumble – stand up to them and they disappear.
Same for every bishop I know – cowardice and no backbone almost qualifications for the job oh but they like flexing, seemingly demonstrating power etc but it’s a giant con – less St Peter more Wizard of Oz
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If you read page 33 of the 10 year plan, it speaks of all kinds of ‘support’ including ‘externally sourced’.
Sounds as if EGAN and HAUSCHILD have a wicked plan!
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Perhaps a diagnosis of extreme paranoia would be a good place to start?
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That’s what I was thinking.
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“Thank you, Father, for your communication.” Thank you indeed!
If only certain individuals can find the courage to come forward with the scandalous information that Fr. Tom Deenihan is hiding. He will be sent back to Cork with his tail between his legs. Let’s get Bishopexit done!
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8:37 County Cork already has more than its share of limelight between the church altar sex orgy scandal in Kildorrery & the US$2 Million Bail Bond for the Bishops housekeepers alleged murderer in Los Angeles.
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Will the COO have her son, a mother Burke, obsolete rite-loving, seminarian son, analysed too?
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What’s the job of a diocesean coo? Does the coo ensure sufficient water is available for baptisms or order candles or supplies of wine for the diocese… etc? Or is the diocesean coo the fall guy or gal for Phyllis when things go pear-shaped…
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Whilst not defending the role of Chief Operating Officer, the COO role covers all things physical/temporal (church properties, such as places of worship, presbyteries, schools, and other properties), complex finances and investments, purchasing and expenditure, staffing, property issues, secular policies to comply with the numerous regulations and laws of the land, etc, etc, leaving all matters pastoral and spiritual and the care of clergy to the Bishop. It’s a larger version of a parish set up, where everyone is supposed to help their PP run the parish and its school. With many Dioceses having many hundreds of diverse properties, it’s a bit like running a PLC….and, frankly, operating these “temporal” matters (unless I have missed something) does not come under the vocation of a clergyman or Bishop, who should be evangelising, preaching the Word, and saving souls!
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This is very nasty. If Egan cannot motivate his priests and have confidenmce in them he should ask himself, not them, why he does not have the skills to implement his policies. I very much doubt he is sufficiently conpetent to bring joy and commitment to his diocese. There needs to be an assessment of his personality by the Cardinal and the Nuncio.
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You’ve managed to miss the crucial fact that he’s motivating his priests by implementing this policy. The clergy are responding by raving that he’s abusing them.
Out here in the real world you’d get sacked for refusing to engage in a perfectly reasonable performance management.
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You’d swear they were more rebellious than Lucifer, wouldn’t you? The clergy?
Chips off the old, satanic block, that lot.
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Psych assessment is part of no performance review system that I have ever known. What next – polygraph testing!!
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Here’s the 10yr plan:
Developing an externally facilitated framework for support, ongoing development, formation and
accompanied reflection to equip our clergy for the challenge of leading and serving contemporary
missionary communities.
● Reviewing and adapting our clergy support function to provide a personalised approach to
support, according to each stage of life and ministry.
● Agreeing and implementing tailored personal development plans for ongoing formation which
reflect the requirements of leadership in contemporary ministry.
● Putting in place a simple form of appraisal (accompanied reflection) which is constructive and
affirming and which fosters effective accountability.
● Embedding a structured onboarding and induction process for clergy from other dioceses,
overseas, and religious orders.
● Developing the role of the permanent deaconate in partnership with priests so that their vocation
in service of our communities can be fully realised.
● Fostering a culture of friendship and brotherhood through shared working, learning and social
opportunities.
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Apart from the diaconate obviously, this is standard in any workplace. If you think this is overly onerous or intrusive, and intend to resist it, all you’ve proved is you wouldn’t be able to hold down a real job.
I suppose you could try leaving and getting a j… O dear I foresee problems.
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8.56
Appraisal is fine provided it includes the opportunity for the diocese to appraise how well the bishop and coo are doing. In fact it vould be most useful.
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Typical corporate rubbish. A bishop cannot force anyone into this kind of activity. Say ‘no’ and do it collectively. Who does EGAN think he is??
The 10yr plan needs careful and thorough reading. DONT TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE! This does nothing to build trust in a diocese. Duplicitous indeed!
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9:01 Exactly. Hauschild will farm out work create waffle shops which will generate expensive clouds of hot air costing the sheeple a small fortune.
It’s expensive corporate crap!!
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Pinch of salt
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Thanks, Father, for sharing this. It’s psychobabble merged with management speak and a touch of spirituality—dangerous stuff.
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Pat are you going to sit back and condone the cowardly attack on a catholic PSNI officer last night? Or do you actually condemn it?
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I absolutely condemn it.
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Not sincere in the slightest, and yet that is the force that have protected you well over the years
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Interesting how the cathbots don’t believe anything said by anyone other than themselves.
Your daily reminder that cult members are taught to treat outsiders with, at best, suspicion.
The other question of course is why you would assume that someone condemning violence (as Pat Buckley consistently has) is not being sincere. 🤔
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@10:06. Indeed, prayers for the PSNI detective who is reported this evening to be fighting for his life having been gunned down in front of his own child at a community event.
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9.25am Stupid question.
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Not sincere? Evidence 10.08?
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Police forces on both sides of the Irish border are co-operating to apprehend the perpetrators.
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They have arrested 3 catholic dissidents and one has a very close bond to a local priest. Is in his company a lot.
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12.12
So the priest is guilty by association.
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I have often asked what kind of man would be an RC priest. But here the question is why you would get so wound up at the thought of a psychological assessment.
What are you worried it will reveal about you?
Obviously the sort of man who is a priest is, in this guy’s case, a man who has something to hide from his bishop. QED.
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Amazingly, my parish newsletter contained no information on this bash at Basingstoke. But then the laity aren’t invited. What’s the bill for the hotel? Never mind the costs of everyone’s travel and loss of time which might be used for something else. Seeing that Heather is paid £100,000 a year (more like £200K once you factor in her hidden costs), her time cost alone must be considerable. This is not going to encourage the suckers in the pews to pay more than £2.35 a week, as Bishop Egan was moaning back in October 2022. Plainly there is no real shortage of money if he can spend it on Heather and the Hampshire Court Hotel.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bishops-sadness-parishioners-donate-less-28338278
The whole psychobabble sound reminds me of the motivational weekends away on which my employer wasted taxpayers’ money back around 1990.
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Those weekends were what made you seek the safety of priesthood and now you’re feeling threatened again.
They think we can’t read between the lines. 💨
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9:28
Good morning William
At least the British Roman Catholic Church is being more transparent about the fact and reality that their religion is a FOR PROFIT BUSINESS despite the multiple contradictions in their applications for State and various forms of Public Funding in the form of national & EC Grants & Charity Status registrations etc. etc.
In the Republic of Ireland, white collar “professionals” comparable to Heather Hausland in the UK render their “services” under the “guise” of “volunteering & charity” work in return for local kudos that enables leniency in other areas of their activities and clerical hierarchy proactively enable these white collar “volunteers” in return for financial benefits to the Irish Roman Catholic Church.
The British system is at least making moves in the right direction toward transparency compared to the deeply parochial Irish modus operandi.
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9:28
Parish newsletter is a heavily censored propaganda tool
They only inform the sheep strictly on a need to know basis
If they read about expensive hospitality events being held in hotels by Bishops despite the fact that these same bishops reside in large palatial mansions, many with offices and architecturally designed corporate boards rooms that would water the eyes of Elon Musk himself and all of this paid for by playing thd poor mouth with the sheep, these same sheep might open their dozy eyes and smell the coffee.
Now that wouldn’t do at all at all, would it.
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Sounds like HAUSCHILD is defending herself in some of these comments. No one else would be trying to explain the innuendo. If the priest’s continue to do nothing, then they deserve all that EGAN inflicts them with.
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Are you implying that RCs are in the habit of trolling this blog pretending to be people they’re not, ‘father’?
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I’ll COO for 200K.
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Pat, your correspondent is reading too much into that communication. I see nothing sinister in it. Is Egan a psychologist? Is Hauschild?
Maybe your correspondent is a teensy bit…paranoid?
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Agreed. If the priest who sent this reads this comment, please make a GP appointment and tell them what you’ve said here. It doesn’t have to be through the diocese but you need specialist help.
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Interestingly, EGAN is feeding back responses to his ten year plan and the feedback is (surprise surprise) exactly what he hoped for! Its magic! He is sensing that more and more people are ‘getting on board’. He’s missed the fact that parishes are empty and the priests are paying lip-service.
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It’s almost like the one who is strangely so afraid of being performance management and diagnosed is a malcontent and the rest of the diocese are pulling together.
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10:36 Are pulling what together? Can you elaborate further please.
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10:47 Herr Doktor your English teacher will be able to explain this common English idiom to you.
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@10.47, 10.36 certainly hit a nerve in you. I can only imagine what you’re like when you actually have an appraisal, and if you find the idea difficult would suggest you get drunk before it. Nobody will notice.
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10:57: From a psychological or psychodynamic perspective this english idiom can be interpreted on several levels containing layers of meaning.
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11:10 Ah…so 10:36 hit a nerve. And what nerve do you imagine it struck?
And what drink do you recommend before an appraisal?
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11:22 Do let us know how your appraisal goes with Ms Hauschild, ‘father’. 😂
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11:34 Once again over active imagination indicators are displayed.
Ms Hauschild will not experience the delightful pleasure of appraising the good Doctor. I can assure you, the good Doctor is not your ‘father’. Did you experience ‘father’ deprivation as a child?
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11:33 I remember a fresh faced overweight cleric who’d make a grand job of the press release after a few pints of snakebite. Not sure where he is now.
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6:24 Not at all. Although mother insisted that I address the man I later learned was my father as ‘uncle’.
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7:01 Ah, yes! Such a family constellation might explain an over active imagination.
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Absolutely howling that Egan has introduced appraisal and a plan to build up the diocese and (presumably) some clergy are screaming that it’s like Nazi Germany.
But tell us again how you don’t like to be treated as special. 😂
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Why is a woman needed at an all-male event? To serve the drinks? The vol-u-vonts, or canapes? The tray bakes maybe.
I don’t understand.
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10:35
Ah, Come On!
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10:35am
Ah now, come on!
They pay Heather over £100,000 per annum plus benefits because despite the fact that they’d all blow a gasket if women were ordained
They do realise and need the benefit of her work experience and expertise and don’t mind paying her substantial quantities of sheep’s money as long as she doesn’t wear their frocks or seek the limelight of their altar in public.
That’s the self entitled Queens running the Roman Church for you.
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Pat, not criticising at all, you’ve published some 💩 on this blog in your time but this paranoid raving is the worst ever. O am certain Egan will have an idea who it is and needs to get a handle on this priest as a priority. Even if not mentally ill he’s obviously unmanageable and I bet his parishioners talk about his ‘funny little ways’.
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It’s funny that women priests are a “no no” but Bishops foist women bosses on their clergy.
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Maybe Heather Hauschild will be there to play the role of Mary by her son: you know, just listening quietly so she can store in her heart all the wisdom she’ll hear at the Big Event.
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10:55 Heather’s role costs 100K plus expenses. No comparison luv.
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11:12 And I bet she doesn’t pretend an angel got her pregnant. No comparison at all.
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11:31 What do you mean ‘pretend’ ?
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11:31
Don’t make your ignorance of scripture normative for the rest of us.
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10:55 Judging by the post and comments today she won’t hear any wisdom, just a bunch of spoiled brats throwing their dummy out of their pram and the Grindr alert sound.
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Its the church women who rule the roost in the parishes and the priest the puppet.
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11:29 the priest is delusional in his quest to pursue a quiet luxurious lifestyle pandering to his own personal whims because he forgets that it’s his puppet strings that get hacked when the public discover which church woman has been hacking the confidential files.
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10:41
Bishops & clergy view the altar as the exclusive territory of priests, they even use the altar in Kildorrery, Cork, Ireland for clerical sex orgies during the dark of night and Archbishop Eamon Martin hasn’t even bothered to arrange for Kildorrery church altar to be reconsecrated.
Further proof that the Roman Catholic Church clergy and their cohorts are an absolute law unto themselves in more ways than one.
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11.32: I trust you must realise the utter disgrace and ridiculousness of the charge you make. One priest carried out a sacrilegious act on the Holy Altar. One disturbed man. Hopefully he’s at peace with God. But your monstrous statement of lies is quite stupid. You make a fool of yourself. Look into the mirror!! Were you to traipse unto the Holy Altar for fun, i’d have you charged for trespassing. Idiots like you should stay in your pigsty.
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2:07
I thought at least one seminarian also participated in the sacrilegious act on the Holy Altar in Killorrery, Co. Cork. So at least TWO disturbed men were involved in the incident. Why change the narrative?
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11.32
You’re not Catholic if you think Eamon Martin could, would or should do that.
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Looks as if 2:07 has had their nerve triggered at reminder of the unresolved issue at Kildorrery church. Newspaper reports of Garda investigation suggest several persons were in attendance on the night in question including the Judas Priest with the camera phone.
Note the pity party attempt from a RC member of the Vatican Mafia despite the thousands of unresolved cases of abuse and related coverups worldwide.
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4:33 Good evening Archbishop Martin.
How’s it cutting down in Cork, do you know or care?
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Pat thank you for putting the B in LGBTQI – you are a great representation for our community
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Pat isn’t bisexual, he is homosexual
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11.01: What about those claiming to be asexual, pansexual and confused sexual? LGBTQUI-APC??We’ll soin run out of alphabet.
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Community? Seriously? What community? Queerfolk are notorious for their bitchy aggression towards one another, and for their exclusionary attitudes.
There’s snobbery and snootiness in the gay ‘community’.
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11:05 You’re talking about the clergy commenting here 🌈
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I wholeheartedly agree, as a straight acting rugby playing decent gay man I have faced these challenges. The biggest challenge for me was finding another man like me that I was attracted to.
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Good morning Pat, what would you say is the most basic of human need? After of course the essentials (food, water, shelter, oxygen etc.
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Intimacy for me
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Mark you would dislike me, I hate other people touching me so much.
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Breaking wind. Well, after all that oxygen and food, what else?
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The role of a COO is to be the bishops stooge. The COO both takes his/her lead and direction from the bishop and his chancellor. Normally they dont stay too long in the job as they become disgusted at all the shenanigans which goes on. A COO will normally tell a new recruit to forget any notions they have about joining a religious organisation. Diocesan laity in general very quickly lose whatever respect they ever had for the RCC unless they themselves are power freaks and closet Nazis
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Don’t knock the COO’s because it’s the in thing, the present trend, hype in England & Wales. Ireland will catch up soon.
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Let’s talk about the elephant in the room here, which is that the clergy (at least the ones screaming on here) are jealous of someone paid more than they are and particularly resent being told what to do by a woman.
Far from proving that Egan is a monster they’re only showing their own inability to get on with other people.
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You do all realize that when you return to the pre-Vatican 2 church you say you dream of you won’t be allowed to criticize your bishop at all? 😂
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I feel like ‘father’s’ communication to bishop Pat has backfired slightly and just attracted a diagnosis of paranoid to him, and spoiled brat to his colleagues.
I never thought I’d feel sorry for a bishop but it must be so difficult wanting to manage this dead wood out the door but not being able to because there are no more weird religious orders to take over the parishes.
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Religious order priests should be barred from becoming parish priests
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12:10 We all know you’re insecure, you didn’t need to tell us again. 😂
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Robert Nugents video at 3.30am is disturbing. He said our lady woke him up to send a video out to the world.
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Not again? It was probably his wife whispering in his ear, “it’s our lady get up and make a video” so she could have the bed to herself.
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Don’t be harsh on RN, I think he may be unwell and we shouldn’t mock him
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Pat you are the original rebellion priest remember. The rest are all cowards brushing the problems all under expensive Afghan rugs
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RIP Fr Noel Fitzpatrick who was murdered by British forces in Ballymurphy.
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Gosh, this is awful and so tragic. I haven’t even heard any news today. It’s terrible to think that this sort of thing can still happen in this day and age
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Bishop Pay – I am a former cleric who left in the mid-2000s and commutes daily to work in London. I earn £100k a year, and people might think I am wealthy – but that’s far from the truth. I receive £5000 net after tax and N.I. My partner is unwell and not able to work. As my income is high, he is only entitled to the higher rate of DLA (mobility element), around £260 a month. I have a modest private pension of around £60k, and the church did not pay all my stamps, so I have had to make up the shortfall. This is my monthly expenditure. I have around £200 left over, and we have not been on holiday for 5 years. We live pretty simply. My plan is that as we have no children to take equity release on the house when I retire at 67 to supplement the state pension and my private pension. Seriously, I led a more comfortable life as a parish priest and never had to worry about the cost of living or retirement provisions.
Mortgage 1409.75
Council Tax 249.00
Internet 59.00
Mobile phone 32.00
Gas 175.00
Electric 175.00
Water 23.50
Car Finance 244.80
Personal Loan 476.64
Life Insurance 37.21
TV sub 5.99
Dog Insurance 14.00
Car Insurance 15.00
Travel – Train 556.00
Petrol 50.00
House Ins 14.30
Food 350.00
Private Pension 1000.00
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You’d be well advised to get independent financial advice as they often caution about equity release.
I’m in a situation where I’m thinking of it but unlike yourself have no dependents at all so don’t mind if I die owing money everywhere and end up having a council funeral.
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12.44: Ronnie, what world are you living in? You said you earn £100k a year! I cannot believe that you and your ill partner (on a disability payment) could have the gall to complain about the cost of living. Honestly, get a reality check.The only smpathy I have for you is that your partner is unwell. I hope he returns to good health but for you to complain….My God, thankfully you don’t have children. I’m on less than half your salary and have three children..We manage. So should you. Did priesthood spoil you? Learn to live more realistically. If priesthood was so fab, maybe you’ll return!!
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3.53 pm I am certainly not complaining and we are managing. All I am pointing out is that £100k is not the golden ticket many seem to think it is. I pay 40% tax whereas you pay 20%. Look at my expenditure – does anything look excessive?
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So, 4.30, your net income per annum is £60,000. I wish I could cry into my Tesco lager over such a paltry sum. You’re a prime candidate for foodbank aid. (You probably already believed you were.😒)
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A parish priest with all his housing, food, and pension paid for would have a better disposable income than I, earning 100k gross and 60k net. Look at the figures. I have £200 a month disposable income. When I used to shop at Waitrose with the parish debit card, I never looked at the price of items placed in my basket. I never considered pension provision and always had two holidays overseas each year.
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I’d like to ask D&C cleric a question. What percentage of priests in his diocese would he say are genuinely true to the followings of Christ before canon law and dogmas etc…?
Belfast, Blog Reader
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4.30: You are certainly more comfortable than most. Again, you retained some of your clerical expectations when back in real world of work, though I know many clergy who work hard and live very frugally. Their money sources are less now since pandemic…..Wish your partner every blessing.
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His Lordship is sponsoring a gourmet dinner and gala concert for the priests of the diocese in Lisbreen Palace on Sunday 16th April – the solemn feast of Bernadette of Lourdes at 5pm. I wonder do readers have any suggestions about how priests in the diocese can provide entertainment for his lordship……
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The obvious one is the 3 singing plonkers erm 🫤 singing?
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Pat you could be the journalist lol
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Pat I do love this more satirical side of the the blog, it’s funny.
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Like most priests and seminarians, will permanent deacons also be mainly gay, Bp Pat? For example, have you ever met a straight one.
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All priests are not gay. Frs Dallat and Brankin love a lady (or 2) (or 3) or…..
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Really? My impression is that they tend to be married retired schoolmasters and bank managers. Boring old farts who are always bitching about their perceived lack of recognition. They seem ubiquitous.
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Down and Connor it seems has no shortage of not particularly bright dictatorial clerics who can never be found in their parishes by their parishioners but who are always involved in some self-serving scheme or other to aggrandise themselves. Noel Treanor surrounded himself with these lick arses when he was bishop. Places like St Patrick’s, ligoniel, Sacred Heart, etc. so that incumbent incompetents there will continue to swan around doing whatever the hell they like and be absent from their duties as much as possible. The whole things a joke.
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Pat why was Bishop David Oakley ordaining a Carmelite on Elsie’s patch at the weekend? I asked a friend who didn’t know but he said ask Bishop Buckley.
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The anonymous malcontent who communicated with Pat is frightened about what his Bishop might ask of clerics at their gathering in June. The traitor hasn’t given any indication to validate his suspicions, hasn’t so far shown why anyone should be worried. Surely any work assessment in any profession is essential to maintain proper standards, check policy and mission statements, give a time for the sharing of ideas, accept reality and seek a way forward out of our crises. I know for some clerics this assessment is a taking of their freedom to do what they like or to do nothing at all. Father, whoever you are, you need to check yourself with the help of a professional as I fear that if you carry this attitude and unnecessary angst and idle speculation to the June meeting, you’ll wreak havoc and will be marked. For God’s sake, come into the real world and stop imagining the worst…Your comments haven’t exactly been met with much empathy or kindness. Sometimes it’s priests like you who give the rest of us bad press. Having read the Bishop’s balanced communication I cannot comprehend how you feel threatened! Might it be “work”?
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Is that you Heather?
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2.27: Pat, are you referring to 1.10 comment? Heather? Ah Pat – would she write such brilliance? Could she? Yours sincerely, Mollie Coddle.
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The priesthood is no more a profession than is harlotry. Priests will never be professionals and any attempt to be will be seen as ridiculous.
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1:10
The mission statement is the gospel. When did the Church become an NGO? So a priest communicating to Bishop Buckley is considered to be
a traitor requiring professional intervention! Obviously the priest has genuine concerns; what does externally facilitated framework for support, ongoing development, formation and accompanied reflection to equip our clergy for the challenge of leading and serving contemporary missionary communities mean in practice and who is to provide external framework?
What qualifies a lay coo to makes assessments on priestly ministry? Gaslighting is not exactly a good omen of whats ahead in Portsmouth.
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Bishop Buckley are you aware if Father Fergal McGrady still offering pastoral responsibility for the truck drivers on the M1 and A8 who have “special needs”. Previously he had been chaplain to the forestry workers and forest visitors in the Ballymena area.
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Fr Connor McCarthy is already out of teaching; which comes as no surprise, if you can’t manage to be a priest how can you manage to be a teacher?
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Only lazy men become priests nowadays
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He will end up signing on
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He is the February intake of Adult Nursing at QUB. Talk about the frying pan to the fire – good luck with that one Connor
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Imagine Connor being a nurse, well he won’t be looking after anyone belonging to me that’s for sure, Pat always say never trust a nurse, well I won’t be now.
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He will be a great nurse, he has always had that caring and moral side, two of which you can not teach anyone to have. You have it or you don’t.
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4:25 I definitely think you personally should always refuse all nursing ministrations. 🤔
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Was Hauschild originally from Middlewich in Shrewsbury?.
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Contrary to popular theory, Rome was built in a day
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I always find Rome a dirty hole, rubbish and cats everywhere and then littered with clergy also
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It may well end up that this person is in fact paranoid, he may also be on the money. TIME WILL TELL. Keep us updated +Pat.
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Very interesting link there ‘Billie’s wife’. Is HAUSCHILD from EGANS previous diocese???
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Heather is from GUERNSEY
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Pat that Robert Nugent is crazy, you were lucky to come out of your meeting with him alive. When he was sitting with you, was he getting messages from our lady, maybe he heard your own parents, or a friend that passed on?
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Pat’s been surrounded by priests all his life: he’s used to crazy. 😂
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Derek and Robert have vivid imaginations, neither could spot a ghosts at 50 paces
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The claims have emerged in a new book Maxima Culpa by Ekke Overbeek, a Dutch journalist who is the Warsaw correspondent for the Trouw Daily.
Fr Josef Loranc, a priest abused a number of girls in the village of Mutne in 1969 and 1970 while teaching Catholic catechism classes.
Investigators found that he had molested at least 9 girls. He was sentenced to 2 years in prison but only served 1 year.
Following his release the future Pope John Paul wrote to him and invited him back into ministry and eventually moved him to a position as a hospital chaplain.
Neither the Vatican or the Polish church in Rome has responded to the publication of the extracts for this book due out on March 2023
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School and hospital chaplain roles appear to be fair game for Bishops looking for new nests for their pet deviant clerics. A danger to society for sure.
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You bet the Vatican and the Polish church haven’t responded, that’s what they do, keep stum & call in favours behind closed doors. Freemasons Mafioso. And to think they canonise these cover up merchants as Saints!! Fact is indeed stranger than fiction in the RCC.
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Portsmouth Diocese is in terminal decline, facing bankruptcy.
Why should I give money to my home Diocese when it will be spent on Hauschild or JP Lyttle?
I prefer to donate to small charities or buy a homeless person a hot drink.
Portsmouth is hardly a bedrock of Catholicism so we may as well amalgamate with the Anglicans.
As for the FSSP Reading, the priests sit in choir at the Chrism Mass which is surely a sign of impaired communion. If they believe in the validity of the NO Mass why don’t they concelebrate?
I expect the Diocese will be merged with Arundel and Brighton over the next few years.
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Excellent point about the FSSP and the effect of their make-believe on communion.
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Concelebration only obtained in the Old Rite at an ordination, so what is your gripe with priests sitting in choir? Concelebration is an unedifying sight which, in my humble opinion, reinforces clerical exceptionalism viz all those limp hands extending vaguely in the direction of the altar whilst trying to squeeze past the permanent deacons hogging the space next to the celebrant. Ridiculous set-up.
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7:22 You don’t understand how this works do you?
Or would you rather the queens had a Royal Box to sit in?
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It’s a funny thing, every day the clergy are on at Pat about how he focuses unfairly on a few bad apples and how everyone else is incredibly grateful and appreciative to them.
You would think in those circumstances a mere appraisal would hold no fear for them, but instead we have all this angst and anger.
I wonder why. 😂
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Pat it has been brought to my attention that you and Fr Michael Murphy enjoyed each other’s company quite frequently while in Clonliffe. Is this true?
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Michael and I were classmates. Never close in anyway
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Aye Pat, innocent as ever, who was the young Sem that use to ‘sit’ on your bed ‘crying’? You think we believe that? What was he crying over?
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He was crying over being sexually used by Peter Meldon.
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‘It has been brought to my attention ‘
They can’t help being pompous, can they.
Funny how they ignore all the other semenarians whose antics were brought to their attention. 😂
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4:23 what about all the abuse and wrong doing by your RC colleagues that has been brought to the attention of your hierarchy & covered up, Fadder???
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CHURCH SEX SCANDALS WIDENS: HUNDREDS MORE CATHOLIC CLERGY ACCUSED ACROSS CA
Oakland(CA)
KNTV – NBC Bay Area [San Jose CA]
February 22, 2023
By Candice Nguyen, Michael Bott, Mark Villarreal, and Michael Horn
“Plaintiffs’ attorneys say 1500 new lawsuits have been filed against the Roman Catholic Church in Northern CA alone. The Investigative Unit has independently reviewed nearly 700 of them.”
“An NBC Bay Area analysis of nearly 700 lawsuits filed against Catholic institutions across Northern California over the past three years suggests the church’s child sexual abuse scandal in the region is significantly worse than the public previously knew. More than 200 of the clergy and lay employees of the Catholic Church named in the wave of lawsuits have never been publicly accused of being sexually abusive towards children and teenagers until now, NBC Bay Area’s investigation found. Some of the newly accused continue to work as priests.”
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/clergy-abuse-scandal-investigation/3162757/
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The Protestant Lads say the Bible says it’s wrong to be gay, so it’s wrong to be gay. Catholic Pat says if you interpret the Bible correctly it’s ok to be gay. Therein lies the difference
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5:14 what do the Protestant lads make of the swingers?
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Ryan Holovlasky is a distinguished preacher and has bountiful gifts in communicating through new media. His gentle charism and selfless service will inspire our younger generations to deepen faith in following the rich legacy in the spirit of the Most Holy Redeemer. Vivat in Aeternum
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It’s a shame the company he keeps, surely he knows all about the shenanigans and relationships that are ongoing
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6:07 the priests and their types do love the auld shenanigans so they do.
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5:44 I agree, I tune into various online platforms on a regular basis. Some of us in the church were just born for the social media. It’s marvellous altogether so it is.
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When y’all vowed to obey the bishop at your ordination did none of you stop to think that he might tell you to do things you don’t like?
SMH
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7.02
This tiresome obsessive narrative displays no inkling of awareness of the sacramentality of life or even a basic appreciation of sacrammental theology.
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I think you mean sacra-mental, 7:26. 😂
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They couldn’t think that far ahead. In fact, they all thought that their bishops wouldn’t command them to do anything of which Jesus wouldn’t approve, like covering up kiddie-fiddling, lying directly or by mental reservation, etc
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7:58 That’s why clerics now are even more suspicious than those before the abuse crisis. If you were ordained in the fifties you would reasonably expect your bishop not to do those things. Priests ordained now are ordained in the full knowledge that bishops can and do except these things.
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Pat, your blog today is interesting but no matter what you put up for each day, some commenters will always go nasty, vicious and vitriolic against clergy. That said, when you printed the stiry about Bishop O Connell’s tragic death, some of us asked you to be curcumspect and cautionary about speculative reasons for his death. Some of the unkindest and most sinister 8f reasons wete attributed to his death. Some personalised the tragedy by placing a sexual abuse narrative into the reasons for his death. I’ve read much on American journals since and the context of his death is becoming clearer for the authorities. I belueve you shoukd have waited until more accurate information was attained befire allowing a vulture type assassination to pieces of this Bishop. Your LA priest contacts seem very suspect to me and a convenient story was immediately construed for the purpose of scandal. I inly know what authorities are saying and their investigation to date does not have thecsorfid details you attributed to his death. Read the most recent commentary by local journalists in LA. My question is: will you accept that perhaps you preempted the truth with harsh, personalised, mocking judgment leading to a frenzy of very sexualused imaginings about the Bishop? Surely, if you and others are/were wrong, can this be remedied by an apology?
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7:11
The motive for Bishop O Connell’s murder is not yet in the public domain and not likely to be made public until the case goes to trial.
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7:11pm
Do confirm the time and date for the Pope Francis Press Conference that international media are waiting on to hear the full details of the redress packages and written apologies for victims, survivors and families of deceased victims who died awaiting a truth and justice that never cabs in their lifetime.
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7:36 Diocese of San Diego transferring assets to avoid payouts to victims of clerical abuse.
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Totally agree. Too many people jumped the gun on this tragedy with their own personal grudges and bigotry. Those of us asked for the police investigation to be completed were ridiculed and vilified.
I do believe we need a response from Pat Buckley.
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It will be very interesting to hear what Mr & Mrs Carlos Mendes have to say in court.
After all, aren’t the slandering priests and their henchmen and women who stalk this blog on a daily basis always spouting about innocent until proven guilty.
Now it’s been proven that Saint John Paul II was busying himself foisting Paedophile priests into new communities including schools and hospitals, does that mean his sainthood will be revoked.
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Pity O’Connell didn’t ‘jump the gun’; he’d still be alive.
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I believe that you should have waited until you had proof-read your lengthy, badly-spelt, poorly composed, and unsubstantiated comment before posting it.
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The Roman Catholic Church is the acknowledged world authority on constructing “convenient stories” to cover up all manner of Roman Catholic Church related abuse, corruption and white & blue collar criminality.
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True. And another possible concoction here is a work in progress. According to ex-Deputy Sheriff of LA County, Jose Romero, the Masons did it. Yup! The Freemasons. O’Connell, according to a ‘reliable’ source of Romero, was shot not once, but a number of times in the back of the head, an execution-style killing, and this, apparently, is the modus operandi of said Masons for bumping off, erm, ‘patriarchs’.
Did I mention that Romero is also a Catholic apologist? Like big Bill Donohue?
It’s getting murkier by the day.
Oh! I did say too, didn’t I, that Lt Michael Modica, of the LA County Sheriff’s Dept, has ‘knocked back’ the owing of money by Bishop O’Connell to Carlos Modina (the man charged with O’Connell’s murder), as a possible motive for the crime? At a Press conference, Modica said that Carlos Modina, who had made a full confession, had given ‘several different reasons’ for the shooting, but that ‘none of them made any sense to the investigators’. At this stage, it is beginning to look as though Carlos Modina is ever so flaky. Or… Or might it be that law enforcement here is trying to gaslight Modina to conceal the real motive for the shooting?
Who knows? God does. In which case, can he be subpoenaed? Again, God knows. (God knows a lot, doesn’t he, but doesn’t give much away?😕)
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I said the same thing yesterday and got a load of grief. You’re spot on.
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Fr Teds sister was picking him up a few bits earlier. He has to be more circumspect these days.
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Safeguarding my a***
Might as well be bathing in asses milk.
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8:50pm How very dare you.
It’s mine, all mine.
My donkeys, my milk, my everything.
Feck the begrudgers.
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The catlicks close personal friends at Meath County Council have been busying themselves granting planning permissions to their kids employers.
Birds of a feather scratch each other’s backs.
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7.54: Yes, my script at 7.11 went ahead too fast for me.. gremlins got in somewhere! However, your comment is very superfluous. It says nothing except to correct me. I think you need to learn how to interpret comments before mouthing off. There’s nothing in my comment that requires substantiation. Are you one of the circling vultures I referred to? Are you hurt, therefore? Try to say something relevant.
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Try to say something relevant? I would … if only Pat would publish it.😉
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NEW SUIT ALLEGES SAN DIEGO CATHOLIC DIOCESE TRANSFERRED ASSETS TO AVOID PAYING SEX ABUSE CLAIMS
Religion News Service
by Alejandra Molina
February 23,2023
They have developed a PR spin on how they’re concerned about victims…
“LOS ANGELES (RNS) — A law firm representing alleged sexual abuse victims in California is suing the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego, claiming the diocese fraudulently moved around real estate assets in an attempt to hide its wealth and avoid paying child sex abuse claims.”
“They have developed a PR spin on how they’re concerned about victims, and they want to do the right thing by victims, but at the end of the day, it’s all about the money and protecting their assets,” Zalkin said.
https://religionnews.com/2023/02/22/new-suit-alleges-san-diego-catholic-diocese-transferred-assets-to-avoid-paying-sex-abuse-claims/
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Good man, FYI!👍
What would the blog do without you?
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9:50 yet you can bet your bottom dollar the Diocese of San Diego continues to receive government and state funding.
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9:50pm Thank you for sharing, this Roman Catholic Church corruption and denial of human rights is a daily occurrence internationally.
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Pat, a genuine question- why do you give bishops female names?
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