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DID LA ARCHDIOCESE INITIALLY SAY THAT BISHOP O’CONNELL WAS HIT BY A STRAY BULLET COMING THROUGH HIS BEDROOM WALL.

DAVID O’CONNELL

An LA priest has told me that the first statement the archdiocese put out about the murder of DOC said that a stray bullet had come through his bedroom wall and accidentally killed him !!!

The first statement the LA sheriff put out stated that DOC was killed by one gunshot to the upper torso.

CHURCH MILITANT’S former deputy sheriff claims that DOC was killed by 4 gunshot wounds to the back of the head and one gunshot wound to the torso.

Now, someone is claiming that the 4 gunshot wounds were to the front of the head ???

THE BISHOPS HOUSEMATE

In the beginning, we were told that DOC had a “housemate,and the housemate was from Peru.

We were not told whether the housemate was male or female.

Today, people are saying that DOC was sheltering “an illegal immigrant.”

Is that the same person as the Peruvian housemate?

Where is the housemate now?

Are they still on holiday?

Have the police spoken to the housemate?

OVER MONEY

Firstly, the police told us that it was a dispute over money – that DOC owed the murder for work he did that DOC was not happy with.

Now, the district attorney is saying it was not about money ???

What other motive is there. There is always a MOTIVE.

KEYS OR KEY PAD

The police are now saying the killer ket himself in with EITHER keys or a key pad ???

The police have been all over the house for nearly a week and have spoken to the murderer and his wife, DOC’S housekeeper.

We’re keys used.

We’re keys found?

Is there a keypad on any door?

The whole thing sounds very iffy to me!!!

CONCERN

There is legitimate concern out there that a cover-up is taking place – that the archdiocese and police are working together.

This has happened in the past, including in the US.

Where DOC lived is very Hispanic and Catholic.

The sheriff who physically comforted Archbishop Gomez had a Hispanic and Catholic sounding name.

I think it’s very important that the world, the Catholic world, and all of us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

164 replies on “DID LA ARCHDIOCESE INITIALLY SAY THAT BISHOP O’CONNELL WAS HIT BY A STRAY BULLET COMING THROUGH HIS BEDROOM WALL.”

Yep, you’ve hit nail on the head there, + Pat. There is so much confusion, obfuscation, contradictory stuff. There is definitely something being covered up here. All is not as straightforward as they might want to think it is. DOC had secrets. Gay ? Peruvian ? Money ? Drugs ? Something is not right. Well, no surprise there, because all clergy – yes, all clergy ! – have something to hide. They all – yes, all ! – live parallel lives, secret lives, hypocritical lives. It will be the case with DOC as well, and will have contributed to his murder / death.

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10.41
What you’re saying is he deserved what he got. It’s good enough for him. He had it coming. And what about you?

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9:11 is trying to get 10:41 to question what he’s thinking. Nowhere does he even imply the bishop deserved it and in fact isn’t even talking specifically about the bishop.
This is a common technique used on survivors, but sure let’s all talk about being merciful.

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9:11 – blogger @ 10:41 said nothing of the sort but the constantly changing & contradictory narrative from both the LA Police & the Roman Catholic Church is raising far more new questions whilst the initial ones haven’t been addressed and are in FACT being contradicted and backtracked on by the investigators and church representatives. This housemate of Bishop O Connell alleged to have travelled to Peru shortly before the murder must be located, is he or she dead? – why was she or he living with the Bishop, so many questions and no credible answers to date but you already know that, Father. 😒. Your types never learn, a lost cause beneath contempt for all the treachery and blood you and your cohorts carry on your filthy abusive hands. Any clergyman who remains in the Roman Catholic Church is a complicit cover up merchant with zero conscience and the public have eyes and ears although you may wish they hadn’t when it doesn’t suit your own nasty agendas.

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11.20
And yet, you aspired to join that which you excoriate in a frenzy of bile until the inspired authorities stepped in. There is a God.

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12:22 Actually they invited me but I wasn’t and am not interested. All those passwords and funny handshakes, can’t be doing with it.

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10:41. This person living in Bishops house was most likely a vulnerable illegal immigrant, will be well paid off to “disappear” paving the way for Bishop O’Connell to emerge “smelling of roses”. Sure look, they canonised Pope John Paul II although he’s proven to have been a paedophile protector for years before he became Cardinal or Pope showing only those who are effective at coverups are promoted to the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church.

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How would we know if this poor illegal immigrant staying in Bishop O Connells house is alive?

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We don’t know Jane Doe.
Undocumented misfortunes disappear all the time in the USA just the same as all those little Irish babies in the nuns slave camps.
So many of the vulnerable come to extremely serious harm when the Holy Ones and their cohorts get their claws into them.

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11.20: You must still be choking on your breakfast after that pouring out of venomous bile. Isn’t hatred a very sickening thing?

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2:13 Well that’s the whole point, Jane, the housemate of Bishop David O’Connell seems to be missing??? 😮

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10:41 David O’Connell travelled all the way from Cork to Los Angeles in the belief he could immerse himself in his call for ministry and where his sexuality might have been easier to conceal but at the end of the day, no matter how far one roams, the truth travels with us and sadly, with tragic consequences for Bishop O’Connell and whom ever else is mixed up in this now very sorry mess. This housemate must be identified as a priority.

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Could never trust a priest or the kind of people they keep around them after all the awful things that have been coming out for years now. No one will ever know what went on in this Bishops life, the church have the money and the contacts in the right places to cover it all up. It’s all been done before and it’ll be done again now.

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What lies? Name them. Oh, wait! You can’t, because you just made that up, didn’t you?

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1pm Maree or whatever ya calling yerself this week, Father, it isn’t necessary to tell any lies about priests because the truth is out there and much more in the pipeline by all accounts.

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Nah. No professional executioner would lose the run of himself by shooting another FOUR times in the head. Unnecessary, and too messy. No; this was personal.

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4 shots at close range, no sign of forced entry at Los Angeles home of Bishop David O’Connellsays:

Agreed, definite evidence of thinking with the heart rather than the head. 😇

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You Pat, should stop eliciting lies from your cohort.. You should learn to be honest, merciful and kind. You should stop thinking you’re back at a gutter journal where you hold nothing SACRED. A Bishop is tragically killed and you are acting like an LA. sheriff. Go and pray the psalm: Have mercy on me O God..in its entirety.

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Yet Michael obviously keeps turning up to read it. You would think he would give up reading this blog for Lent if his estimate of Bishop Pat’s journalism was sincere (it isn’t).

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9:45 Michaels hard drive is portable.
Birds of a feather flick together in more ways than one.

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His laptop will conveniently go missing, just like the laptop of the ex-PP of Pomeroy’s went missing.

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6pm everything “inconvenient” goes missing in the Roman Catholic Church, including malnourished children unfit for slavery, human trafficking, sexual & financial abuse, paedo priests go missing in action, shunted around to various schools, churches and parishes. Money goes missing and the clergy & their cohorts connected to it and so on and so on. Loudmouth Bishop Phonsie Cullinan can remain very quiet when it suits his own agenda, he’s not on his own in the Irish Bishops on this one.

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The police chief of Latino heritage was pally with the archbishop at the press conference so I wouldn’t be suprised.

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12.25 Your words are really to kind to describe Buckley. There’s no words in the English dictionary that would be fitting to him!

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3.58: Pat doesn’t care what people think of him. He has thick skin. Like a rhinoceros’s a..e! 🐂🐂🐂🐃🐃🐃🐃…or a bull or buffalo!!

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Benedictine order admits keeping Brother Jerome Skaja with order despite “multiple” credible accusations of molesting minors.says:

The Chicago Sun Times is reporting that the Benedictine’s long history the fact that Skaja who died in 2016 had been credibly accused of repeatedly sexually abusing a Marmion student in the 1980s. They reached a secret financial settlement with the accuser when he threatened to sue when he turned 18.
In December, the Rev. John Brahill a Marmion leader said the order planned to post its first public list of “established offenders” as the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago has done as have many other Roman Catholic religious orders. The published list includes Brother Jerome Skaja and Rev. Augustine Jones, a twice convicted sex offender who died in 2007.
Brother Jerome Skaja was heavily involved in fund raising for the school and had “multiple” incidents where he was accused of molesting minors in the 1970s and 1980s according to the new list which says the accusations have been deemed to be “true”.
A note posted with the published list states:
“Based upon the facts and the circumstances there is objective certainty that the accusation is true and that an incident of sexual abuse of a minor has occurred. The names on the list are based on a process of consultation with an independent review board and is not a legal judgement.
The identity of the independent review board members has not been made publicly available raising serious questions.
A mother of one of the teenagers confirms that she was treated as “a hysterical woman” by the Abbot in charge when she went to see him.
No records could be found to indicate The Rev Vincent Bataille ever notified police although Illinois law requires school officials to report suspected child abuse.

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I was at a funeral once where a priest called the deceased lady’s daughter ‘tiny’ when her name was Tina. same priest different funeral; called a young deceased man by the wrong name at the grave side and the father of the deceased had to correct him. very awkward

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The usual lack of compassion toward those wronged by the Holy Ones and their complicit Mafia is noted once again at 9:19.

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8:32 getting a persons name wrong in any religious ceremony or context speaks volumes on the lack of sincerity on the part of the cleric conducting same and is extremely disrespectful to the person and upsetting for family and friends.

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Gomez and the LA Latinos are playing the “Santo subito” strategy by inundating the airwaves with stories of how wonderful DOC was as a man and a bishop. I’m always wary when people are prepared to accept such a monotone and partial interpretation of anyone or anything. I think we will have to wait until the trial and we can follow the evidence in detail and then come to a fuller understanding of what happened, and what led up to his alleged murder. In the meantime I am skeptical and questioning of what I am being told about him, based mostly on my experience of clergy and being told how wonderful they are and then finding out some time later that there was a foundation as deep as a cesspit to their real lives.

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The did it with JP II. Then it all comes out that he was harbouring all sorts of odd characters, not least Maciel of the LCs. Because he was able to bring in huge amounts of money for the Pope. So, I think it is always wise to double check and question the motives of Pope’s, bishops and priests and what they are doing. Never take anything at face value. There is always something lurking, hidden and out of sight. Isn’t is awful that we have to think this way about the Church that we were brought up to instinctively trust ? Look what they have destroyed by their selfish and criminal behaviours.

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9:20 it’s just another prime example of the usual coverup propaganda modus operandi of the Roman Catholic Church – the Church comes first all the time, every time, no exceptions. A most serious danger to society are these vile wolves in sheep’s clothing and their sick and seriously twisted cohorts. Blood on their hands all over the place.

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2:26 it’ll be another Jack Ruby job – told ya they da MafiA with Fraudulent Frankie at da helm in Roma & Bennys wife turfed out of da gaff before he had cooled down in the tomb, still ‘ole Benny had the last laugh with his bean spiller from beyond da grave, his final 🖕to Papa 👴 – Bennys wife will receive the royalties. 🤣💪

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9.20
They lionised Fr Malachy Finnegan and the Spiritans at Blackrock College when they died. And then the caca hit the fan.
I suspect the LA archdiocese is behaving likewise.

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4:46pm the usual BS, sure they were all right Saints altogether as the self interested cover up merchants would hope the baa’s fall for all their BS.

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Nate Lindstroms death by suicide - secret payouts - Norbertine Order - no charges filed against 3 Norbertine priests Lindstrom accused of abusing himsays:

Nate Lindstrom told his family he’d been molested beginning the summer before his freshman year of high school in Green Bay, Wisconsin by Norbertine priests including the Rev. James W Stein, then a charismatic young cleric who later ministered in Chicago.
Believing their sons worsening mental health was the result of having been sexually abused, Mary and David L Lindstrom met with Abbot Gary Neville and asked for financial help.
Abbot Neville did not acknowledge any wrongdoing by his clerics but agreed the Order would start sending $3,500 per month to Nate Lindstrom and would also help pay for his therapy and medication according to his family and friends who provided letters and other records documenting the arrangement.
The payments were unusual, they didn’t come in response to a lawsuit or any settlement and were, in effect, secret.
A decade later, a new abbot in charge stopped the payments. He said there was no basis for the sex abuse accusations against two of the three Norbertine priests Nate Lindstrom had named.
The Norbertine Order didn’t address the third priest, the Rev. James W Stein whom Nate Lindstrom had named as the third abuser. Rev Stein eventually left the Norbertines.
On March 20, 2020, not long after the Norbertines halted the payments, Nate Lindstrom who was self employed and had been in regular therapy whilst the payments for this therapy were coming from the Norbertines, shot and killed himself in the suburban Minneapolis home where he lived with his wife and their 3 young children. He was 45 years old.
Amid their grieving, Nate Lindstroms family, friends and other supporters organized protests against the Norbertine Order, they paid to put up “I believe Nate” billboards, called for the new abbot, Rev Dane Radecki, to resign and urged Josh Kaul, Wisconsins attorney general to investigate how Catholic orders and diocese in that State deal with complaints about sexual abuse of children by clerics – an investigation Nate Lindstrom had also pushed for before his death by suicide. His family, friends and supporters provided evidence of the “hardball tactics” from the Order toward Nate and the lack of compassion.
In trying to negotiate new terms with the new Abbot, the victim wrote that the abuse resulted in fear, anxiety, flashbacks, unwanted thoughts.
More recently the Rev Stein has been working as a dish washer in a Milwaukee area restaurant.
Attorney General Josh Kaul confirmed that the investigation requested by Nate Lindstroms family, friends and supporters would go ahead.

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Yet another example of the proof of all the blood this horrible excuse for a religion has on its filthy hands.

May Nate Lindstrom somehow rest in peace and prayers for his wife and three young children, his extended family and friends at this most awful time for them made all the more difficult by the Irish Christian Brothers and their highly paid professional networks. Another example of the powerful against the powerless.

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One is of course reminded of that famous quote from Pope St John XXIII: ‘Dont ring the police, keep it in-house, boys’.
An inspiration whose influence is still felt. 🙏

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And thr gay young man who was beaten to death by 3 young men frorm supposedly good catholic homes and who later got off serving any punishment for the murder by a staunch catholic bishop.

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12:08 yes, parish priest asked policeman how they might engineer the finding of Fr Molloys body in Flynn s marital bedroom in a manner that would save embarrassment for the church! Friends in high places there, Fr Molloys family remain highly motivated to get justice for their beloved uncle.

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Irish Christian Brothers fall short on revealing true extent of sexual abuse by its memberssays:

Brother Ronald LASIK was accused in 2013 of molesting two students years earlier at St Laurence High School in Burbank. From 1954 to 1957, LASIK served at the Mount Cashel orphanage in Canada where he was convicted of sexually abusing multiple boys and sentenced to more than 10 years in prison. He served less than half that before being freed and deported to the United States.
Deluged with child sexual abuse abuse lawsuits, the Irish Christian Brothers filed for bankruptcy in 2011.
There is a public list in accordance with the Court required Settlement Agreement listing the names of current, former and deceased Brothers of The Edmund Rice Christian Brothers North America Province who were identified in at least two (2) sexual abuse claims filed as proofs of claim in the bankruptcy matter.
Lawyer Mark McKenna who has sued the Irish Christian Brothers on behalf of clients has strongly criticised “the culture of transfer of accused priests from school to school and from city to city”. Many complaints were not passed onto police by the Irish Christian Brothers and a high number are not on the published list because it only contains names where at least 2 reports were made.
Michael Pfau, a Seattle lawyer who represented the plaintiffs in the Washington case has sued the Order repeatedly over other sexual abuse allegations describes the Irish Christian Brothers as “among the worst of the religious orders in terms of abuse of children – including physical abuse as well as sexual abuse, the lawyer says some Irish Christian Brothers carried leather straps to beat children and burned them with cigarettes in efforts to frighten the children into allowing themselves to be raped.
Canadian lawyer, Geoff Budden has listed the Irish Christian Brothers @at the top of the list of the most prolific and savage sex abusers”.

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I’m amazed at the desire for quick answers for the Bishop’s death. There is confusion but we must still wait for the proper investigation before imagining wild scenarios. There’s an appetite on this blog for conspiracy theories and it’s satisfying a particular agenda. It appears to me that all the Miss Marples on the blog have drawn their conclusions already…

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A fog of confusion about this case is deliberately being created by the authorities.
I said yesterday that the full story here will never emerge, because the archdiocese does not want it to emerge.
If you are looking for clarity through answered questions, you won’t find it.

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‘Agatha Christie’ is so busy trying to deflect that *she* (as she was called in seminary) has missed the point of the blog post today, which is that the archdiocese put out a completely wrong story before any apparent facts emerged.
It’s the diocese that’s making things up, not this blog, so try telling them. 😂

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11.07: But Pat was quick out of the hatch with his narrative as the body of the Bishop lay blood stained in his bed. All kinds of things were said, totally unfounded. You and others do an injustice to TRUTH with innuendo, speculation and misinformation. Be patient. Be balanced. Be just.

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1:06 Your types don’t stay in your own hatch, Aggie! If you did, how content you could be! Que sera sera…..

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1.06
Above all, be truthful. And we are, indeed, being truthful in our specuation that there appears to be efforts afoot to conceal the whole story about this awful murder.

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Be real. Be honest. Be charitable. All kinds of things were said in initial media reports from various media outlets in Los Angeles. Aggie, justice
is not a major concern to church hierarchs, so TRUTH will not be a priority.

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No one is looking for quick answers. How did you deduce this? From your imagination, obviously, and not from the blog.
Speculating about what happened, and asking reasonable questions is not tantamount to looking for quick answers. Go back to school.

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Why create so much confusion? The Police made an arrest. The motive remains very unclear. RCC has a notorious reputation for cover-up to satisfy a particular agenda, to protect the ‘reputation of the Church’,
i.e. clergy, as well as financial assets. So why should this case be any different?

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10 45: Yes. Pat, manybunanswered questions. But, I’m prepared to wait for proper investigation before making judgments. in any investigation hearsay, speculation or innuendo is not acceptable.

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11.18: But Pat, let the legitimate questions be asked when there’s a full investigation. I think it’s wrong of you to be speculating and with a particular narrative. Let the TRUTH be established. Then we can decide but you’re being very impatient and very sinister in your imaginings. TRUTH will arrive. So far, you, like most of us, are trying to make assessments without full knowledge. While investigations are ongoing, it’s wrong to be insinuating all kinds of scenarios and making judgments about partucular individuals.

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12.56
Nonsense. Everyone is speculating about this massive news story. It’s human nature.
Sit down and be quiet.

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11:18 let’s face it, if they can’t manage to “influence” the “outcome”, they’re all rightly fucked. Mind you, they might not view that as a bad thing, they certainly seem very cozy in the press conferences.

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11.02
‘Proper investigation’? You’re naive, God love you.
This concerns a Catholic bishop who was reportedly homosexual and active, who had a Peruvian ‘housemate’, and who is not the victim of a random shooting. AND we have Latino investigators.
Proper investigation?

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4:34 Don’t misunderstand, ‘proper investigation’ in church speak translates as ‘one which will find what we want’.

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We investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇says:

4:34pm Exactly, well said.

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Another strange contradiction is that I’ve read in one news source that the deacon who found the bishop just thought he was asleep.
Seriously?
Shot dead but somehow the body looked dead calm, tucked up with his teddy bear? 🧸
This stinks 🦨

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You have to wonder what the cultists’ problem is with people speculating about a murder which is, after all, in the news.
Perhaps it’s on a par with the way they don’t like people speculating about their ‘celibate’ clergy’s sex lives.

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Truth is, raping children abusing vulnerable adults then covering up such despicable acts is crooked. “31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32

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Agreed. There would have been a lot of blood spatter, esp from multiple headshots; it would have been obvious that O’Connell wasn’t just asleep, and not just from the blood spatter, because he wouldn’t have had a head left.

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4.09: God bless your nonsense. You obviously also hate TRUTH.. Get a grip. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👹👹👹…..

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A priest in Cavan has had a letter from Rome asking about Router’s suitability to become a did a bishop in charge of a diocese. He was the wrong one to ask as he’s the biggest clergy gossip.

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11:58 No wonder the Roman Catholic Church keeps fucking things up if this is how they manage their personnel process!!

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The letter arrived two weeks ago when there was no resident Nuncio in Eire. They had a job appointing him , last I heard a Norwegian turned it down.

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1.32
Not surprising that you would have heard that.
But whoever told you must have seen you coming.
There is no Apostolic Nuncio anywhere in the world who is a Norwegian. And Colombia, from which the new nuncio comes to Ireland is, perhaps, the most prestigious Vatican diplomatic posting in Latin America.

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Who is the deacon in bishop o connells House? There doesn’t seem to be a name?? Why is o connell going to buried in L.A, isn’t his home in Ireland and he was going to to come back for holiday?? I pray for his brother reading this blog. It must be awful indeed as his brother was a public figure. Did he support LGBT rights through his interview and was this one of the reasons for his execution style murder? He spoke of gay marriage relationships this could be his downfall….the whole situation requires more investigation..

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@4.12pm You need to read correctly like others on here. I said a Norwegian had turned down the Eire job but I never said it was a current Nuncio.

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Cardinal Roche, if you’re reading this there’s a comment about priests getting people’s names wrong in ceremonies. May I suggest that this embarrassment would be avoided in future if the name of the person going through the ceremony were not used and they were simply referred to as ‘the baaaa’. 🐑

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12.37
Cardinal Roche’s star is in the ascendent. Today he received a further indication of how well he’s thought of in Rome. He’s been appointed a member of the Pontifical Commission for the Vatican City State.

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1:40 ‘Here’.
Here? Where? You do realize the internet is available in most countries except those without free speech, much as you would like.

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3:46pm Centuries of “controlling the narrative” now has the RC funding China in desperation to “get things back to normal” for the Holy Ones & their cohorts!

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The beginning of the blog reads almost as illogical and inconsistent as one Albert Kirby’s QPM safeguarding investigation reports.
Could it be the local Episcopalian diocese are using a Catholic scenario to cover-up their own shortcomings? Perhaps a local judge and the Police are attempting to protect Episcopalian paedophile ministers and at all cost.

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There you go throwing the baby out with the bath water again, Father.
Your lot never learn.

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Didn’t Church Militant produce a video in which it accused certain American dioceses of smuggling in gay seminarians as playthings for Catholic priests? I wonder if this is what Bishop O’Connell’s housemate was? Why haven’t we heard from him? This is all very suspicious? Are we to believe that Carlos Mendes’ killing of O’Connell was entirely notional, without motive?

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That is exactly what we are to believe. I bet the diocese is raging that the killer is apparently another cultist so they can’t spin it as being persecution and get him canonised as a martyr 💰💰💰💰💰💰

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The Commissioner for Survivors of Institutional abuse have been urged to seek support and compensation.
Ministers Michelle McIlveen, Conor Murphy, Nichola Mallon, Robin Swann and Naomi Long offered apologies to the victims.
The Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry Report published in 2017 highlights the tremendous burden of pain and trauma that victims, their families, friends and supporters have carried throughout their lifetimes.
Victims can speak to the Commissioners Office on:
Tel. 028 9054 4985
Email. info@cosica-ni.org
to find out about what types of support options are open to them.
The VSS (Victims & Survivors Service), WAVE Trauma Centre, Advice NI and other groups are providing support.
The VSS can be contacted on:
Tel. 028 9031 1678
Email. hiaenquiries@vssni.org
WAVE Trauma Centre is contactable on:
Tel. 028 8225 2522
Advice Northern Ireland:
Tel. 028 9064 5919
For additional support:
Lifeline. Tel. 0808 808 8000
Samaritans- 116 123
Inspire Wellbeing: Tel. 028 9032 8474

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LOS ANGELES USA & CORK IRELAND
The Irish Times Obituaries
Bishop David O’Connell obituary:
Progressive cleric from Cork who spent his life in Los Angeles
O’Connell was a much-respected community leader who devoted himself to ministering to immigrants and other marginalised people
Roman Catholic Bishop David O’Connell, who was shot dead at his home in Los Angeles on Saturday.
Sat Feb 25 2023 – 00:00 Irish Times.
Born: July 16th, 1953
Died: February 18th, 2023
Bishop David O’Connell who has died, aged 69, was originally from Cork but spent his Catholic ministry in Los Angeles where he was a community leader and vocal campaigner on behalf of immigrants and marginalised people.
There was an outpouring of grief among the communities in which he worked when the news emerged that he had been shot dead at his home in Hacienda Heights. Carlos Medina, husband of his housekeeper, has been charged with his murder.
The Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com › obituaries › 2023/02/25 › b…
Sat Feb 25 2023

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Cardinal Roches career is linked to Francis and therefore limited to what remains of his papacy and health.
They are like politicians- here today gone tomorrow.
I enjoy the conjecture surrounding the death of the bishop but it will just have to play out but alarm bells at this early stage suggest things are not as they seem and given the homosexual proclivities of most bishops I’d expect a bishop murdered in his bed to far from straightforward.

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Cross Dressing, Prostitution & Murder?
The San Francisco Chronicle wrote “a man on his own often gets invited back to camps by gay Bohemians.” Annals over 100 years old have also chronicled some of the sexual activities performed on the camp grounds.
It is particularly difficult to ascertain the current legitimacy of these claims because the Grove has routinely positioned itself outside of any jurisdiction and managed to evade local and state investigations repeatedly. According to one of these male prostitutes, secret locations such as the UNDERGROUND lounge (spelled U.N.derground), a Leather Room, Dark Room and Necrophilia Room are hidden on the grounds.
Beginning in the mid 1980s there were rumors of murder in remote parts of the property. These rumors are most likely related to male prostitutes who expressed “fear for their lives.” Again, the legitimacy of prostitution and murder claims at the Grove (or even the witness accounts) is nearly impossible to prove because investigation of the club is blocked under the 1947 National Security Act.
Cross dressing however, is a common practice. Some photographs have been released that show men dressed in women’s clothing. Some believe this is simply a childish “college-like” behavior of drunken men having a good time. Others believe some of the cross-dressing practices are related to worship of the Moloch god (who in some cultures represented a female entity).
1)ENVIRONMENT & PEOPLE
THE BOHEMIAN GROVE
Posted in – Environment & People on August 22nd 2010
2)Secrets Members Of Bohemian Grove Don’t Want Revealed
youTube
Grunge 991,346 views Feb 3, 2019 #History #Secrets #BohemianClub

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3:32
QP, for more on Bohemian Grove go to BitChute.com
Search for The Order of Death: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove.

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The moment I knew none of this was true was the instant I heard camping and gay in the same sentence. I think not.

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They always were. Meaningless, because the RC institutional church has disgraced itself worldwide. And few now give a hoot about it.

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My neighbour up the road in Feeny said the wee place got a mention. What about Park? We feel left out. l

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The interest in thd deatb of Bishop O Connell is understandable. God rest his good soul. By all accounts he was a well respected member of the Diocese and of the L.A. community. Some very kind tributes have been expressed about him. There’s still some missing pieces of information but it is nonetheless a great tragedy. A great loss. I guess some malcontents and anti churchers are hoping a much worse story of sexual and other intrigues will emerge. Their minds are racing like lightning to create crazy stories…Remember the Bishop’s family before making judgments. Let’s wait for full investigation.

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Stand with victims, survivors, family & friends of those impacted by church related abuse.says:

The truth always comes out eventually.

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Er not me fears you label anyone a malcontent or anti church whereas I’m neither a malcontent or anti church and I can see lacunas and holes and given say, for example, the H&N debacle I’d say bishop shot by malcontent gay lover wouldn’t be out of the park or beyond realms of possible.

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Cardinal Sean Brady is still
Irelands serving Cardinal. Even though, if there was A conclave in the near future to appoint A successor to Pope Francis, either by his death, or retirement, Cardinal Sean Brady would not be eligible to vote in A Conclave as he is over 80 years of age. Word on the ground is the Red hat is going to Archdiocese of Dublin again. Archbishop Eamonn Martin is too too young, (DOB 30th October 1961), and his time will come, to be A cardinal when Archbishop Dermot Farrell (DOB 22nd November 1954) reaches 80 years of age in 2034.

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Have the Los Angeles police confirmed that they’ve found and spoken to Bishop O’Connells absent lodger?

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Well! The huggy feely Latino Chief of Police had better bite the bullet and cough up the missing lodger from Bishops house, the public want “answers”.

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The new Nuncio’s title isn’t important; it’s the Archbishop of Armagh and Archbishop of Dublin’s titles of Primate of All Ireland and Primate of Ireland respectively all over again. Playing to the gallery. For many in the international political community, ‘Ireland’ or ‘Eire’ is 26 counties.

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