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A VERY DISTURBING VIDEO ON OPUS DEI.

PAT SAYS

I found this video about Opus Dei very disturbing.

Opus Dei, to my mind, is a cult.

Or, if you like, as an RCC organisation, a cult within a cult.

Here in Ireland, one of the most prominent Opus Dei people is PHONSIE CULLINAN. the RCC bishop of Waterford.

And just look at his strange views;

Anti yoga.

Anti cervical cancer vaccinations for young women.

He is overseeing a weird community house for young adults in the Tipperary mountains.

He has young people staying with him in his house in Waterford.

If I were a parent, I would not let a child of mine anywhere near opus Dei Phonsie.

117 replies on “A VERY DISTURBING VIDEO ON OPUS DEI.”

Opus Dei are indeed a cult. One trait is their schools or churches or other premises generally eschew clear identification as Opus Dei. A lot of their activities are operated via Supernumeraries (is Phonsie one?) who sponsor sketchy media or ecclesial operations against others (whether trad or liberal) who might seem to threaten the power of that cult. They also severely exploit the lower grades who exist as de-facto bonded labourers. Although identified as conservative, I’d see it more as a form of pragmatism in support of their own power and whatever their actual aims are.

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Conservatism, fascism & what the other Party in the U.K. names itself – with ‘Sir’ Kier at the helm – the Labour Party. 😂😂🤮🪣. You’re all the same, whichever State / Country but fabulous actors in the faces of the faithful. The Oscars & BAFTAS could be awarded to any of your cults- no different in fact much, much worse and some same scandalous practices as secular political world.
I’m noticing I’m getting there with ‘your’ instead of ‘my’ Church. Its regardless of clerical status – on the ground priests, bishops, whatever. Some of you feign interest & feign campaigning for justice & peace but no Truth. Admittedly, though, you attend lots of the ‘right’ kind of meetings with the ‘right type’ of parishioners – regardless of gender.

Those who need to watch and read your investigations, Bishop Pat, they don’t. I blame the parents too – including mothers, trusting & handing over their most precious Gifts, their children, for some kind of false future status.
That’s what comes of RCC & other orgs twisting Scripture & twisting Christ’s teaching to feather your nests with financial wealth and access to the bodies of children and young people. I believe God is watching. I believe we are coming to the end of RCC. Francis decided not to inhabit the Vatican. He knows what he’’d be associating himself with in some of those rooms. I like a lot of his teaching – but can see through his smoke screen too.
I liked the commenter who recently said they’ve set up candles & a place to serve Christ, praying and reflecting in their own home & believe its better than attending RCC. Maybe more of us will get to that point. Thank you. Amen. 🙏

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3:33 Wow! I’m impressed! You’ve managed to misunderstand just about everything you talk about in your comment! 😂
Lucky you’re not serious, isn’t it.

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Something like that. PF revised the terms of their personal prelature (the means of a once rumoured deal with the SSPX) not so long ago, so he appears not to love them too much. That mightn’t be handy for them, but it might be a PF ‘treat ’em mean to keep ’em keen’ flex.

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I can’t imagine ANY young person today, given that most of them probably think of Catholic priests as universally paedophile, who would even consider joining Phonsie for… Well, whatever it is they would join him for. Unless they are learning disabled, or similar. Which would be a vulnerability in addition to their youth.

As for police monitoring, you’ve either forgotten, or didn’t know, that the ROI is a confessional country, with always a very close relationship between the Catholic Church and the police, the police being the submissive partner.

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Bishop Phonsie is a pastor and a mentor to young people. His gifts are plentiful and he is generous in his service.

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Fonzie is supposed to be pastor to all catholics in W&L not just young people or priests gone rogue. Is Fonzie going to initiate ‘The Reckoning’
on abuse or continue to bury his head in the sand like the rest of his colleagues in the bishops conference….

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Ah, yes! Pastor and mentor. What hubris there is in such self-acclamation. Der Fuhrer had it in spadefuls.

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There are new voices
Yet to be heard voices
Voices we didn’t get to hear
Remember, every ribbon you tie on a church fence or door shows solidarity with a victim and will mean the whole world to them in dealing with the daily indifference, resistance, libel and slander dished out to them by Roman Catholic members including clergy and hierarchy.
Be FAITHFUL to the weak & oppressed victims and survivors of Roman Catholic Church abuse.

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Bishop Phonsie Cullinan also harbours priests who are moving about. Also no news on Garda investigation into €70K allegedly embezzlement by one of his parish priests. Seems Bishop Phonsie devised his own credit Union/banking system to get over that one.

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Or maybe the Garda gave Father a pass, as it gave Bishop Eamon Casey a pass when he, too, rifled Church funds.
An Garda Síochána, ever the handmaid of the Church.

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The parish priest was put out to pasture. What happen to Gerry O Connor Brendan Crowley and Michael Mullins ?

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I know nothing about the other two but I know that Brendan Crowley is retired but still ministering in Clonmel and said Mass today at 1pm.

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Gerry O’Connor and Michael Mullins are retired. Gerry O’Connor was not in the best of health some time back which might have brought forward his retirement. Brendan Crowley is a retired Parish Priest but is still actively working in Clonmel as a P.E.

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That mountain place should be raided by the Irish police. Bishop Phonsie is such an angry looking guy.

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He’s a control freak who can’t control his own temper, witness his losing the run of himself when Pat Buckley attended the funeral Mass for Mons John Shine.
People like Phonsie are either dangerous, or fools. I’d be worried if a child of mine wanted to attend whatever functions he hosts.

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Bishop Phonsie appears to be just another cover up cleric yet has plenty to say for himself when it suits his own agenda.

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Join Opus Dei and suppress your God-given individuality, your identity, to be rewarded with humility, the virtue that allows you to be content with being a very small and insignificant cog in a wheel of conformity and obedience to the powerful.
One question: to whom are the powerful answerable? Well, two questions: why must serving Christ be such a miserable, self-repressing, self-hating experience?

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I agree, Pat. The video is very disturbing, highlighting cult like characteristics, such as deceptive recruitment tactics, exclusivity, dogmatism, control, as well as bizarre sadomasochistic practices to ‘subjugate the passions’. The story of the elderly man dying of cancer is very concerning sounding like spiritualization of homicide. I understand controversy surrounded Escriva’s beatification/canonization. Finance wasn’t an obstacle for Opus Dei. JPII, saint maker extraordinaire, willingly obliged to canonize. Seems to me, Opus Dei is a potential breeding ground for an assortment of abuses, including sexual abuse. It might also attract a number of particular personality types, including the insecure, isolated, vulnerable idealist to the manipulative, controlling, narcissistic psychopath. It’s most definitely not my brand of Christianity.

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Did +Phonsie’s support for the wayward abbot mean that he supports blessings of love for the LGBT community?
The wayward abbot’s presence in the boiler house was a premeditated decision. It was not something that can be dismissed as a moment of passion in a scullery.

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Maybe Phonsie might publicly state his position on whether he supports blessings of love for the LGBT community since he appears to court publicity. He certainly displayed being a supporter of the preferential option for the priest during the wayward abbots boiler house public scandal. Scandal caused to the faithful of his diocese seem to be of no concern.

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I can imagine LGBT youth, fearful and unaccepting of their sexuality, being strongly drawn to the kind of (presumably ultra-orthodox) activities this man provides as a refuge for their personal insecurities. They could be very badly damaged by the experience psychologically and spiritually.

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11.16 – It is said Betty Turpin of Paisley is Opus Dei: certainly her prodigy Ross C at Glasgow Uni has OD sniffing around the Turnbull Hall cult centre
– aka chaplaincy – for confession and direction and worship 😉 😉 all the usual hallmarks – (self directed) homophobia – obsession with sins sexual and TLM – or ordinary form but aesthetically TLM. Poor Nolan 🙈

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An absolute rancid organization hilariously lampooned in the otherwise awful Da Vinci Code.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the loathsome David Quinn and that twat Ronan Mullen were members.
The funniest thing is that these clowns think they’re performing some secret mission to get Catholic morals back at the top of the political and social agenda. Yet they use a secret society to do so. Laughable. Might have worked in Franco’s Spain but they can f**k right off in 2023.
Hardly surprising either than the Fonze is up there in the Irish echelons. He’s living in 1950. My wife recently bought a Yoga Cats calendar full of cute moggies in yoga poses so I might send him one. Bless.

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Whenever you come across Opus Dei types, there is a real sense that you are only seeing an outside veneer, which is designed as a cover to the outside world, and what really is going on in their lives, and especially their Opus Dei community, is hidden and secret. That in itself sets the alarm bells ringing. They are not open and transparent. It is exactly in that kind of secretive and recluse community that strange and questionable things happen. So, instinctively, I am very wary of them. Occasionally with a nitwit like Phonsie, you see some of the idiot, fringe, culture wars nonsense coming out. I suspect Phonsie is a bit of an embarrassment to most Opus Dei members because he can’t keep his mouth shut and has an intemperate nature that just explodes the carefully crafted external veneer that most of them construct. The talking heads that the video present always exhibit themselves as rather fascist, authoritarian and controlling, using carefully constructed words and phrases which will have been well rehearsed. No surprise, because this movement has its origins in the Spain of the 30s and is intimately linked with the fascist Spanish regime of Franco. They are dangerous, and should be kept a close eye on, so I think + Pat should revisit this crowd regularly just to keep them on their toes. We are watching……

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Get a grip, ya cretin! Generalissimo Franco was Our Blessed Lord’s instrument for restoring order in commie Spain. That Opus Dei flourished in this environment is proof of that.

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11.08
Who was it who first quipped ‘I wouldn’t want anything to do with an organisation that would have me as a member.’?

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Opus Dei is merely another cover story and possible scapegoat if necessary.
So as we’ve seen the RC church has so far blamed its history of criminality and violence on
Modernists
Freemasons
Homosexuality
And Opus Dei is merely another part which could either be used as a scapegoat or imagined ‘orthodox’ saviour.
The only explanation which explains everything is that the RC ‘church’ is a criminal organization running a fake religion staffed by patsies as a front.
Stop looking at the small part: this is the inevitable conclusion when you look at the whole.

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They are a very sneaky underhand lot.
Many years ago a lady in our parish said she had a friend a neighbouring village who would like to meet up to exchange ideas for children’s liturgy. I asked where the meeting was and she said a car would come up from a nearby city and take me to the meeting. I was suspicious and did some research on Opus Dei. I ended up in a very affluent house where everyone spoke Spanish and was treated to a lecture on the Vigin Mary and how only catholics get to heaven. It went on for about 2 hours. On the way back I said to my friend, who were those lovely ladies. She said Opus Dei. Talk about devious.

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Thanks for the link.
An organisation reputedly worth $2.8 billion is a very powerful one. So powerful that Cardinal Basil Hume prohibited it from recruiting minors in the archdiocese of Westminster.
What age group does Phonsie attract? How young are they?

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18+? But I’d bet they aren’t mature, well-adjusted 18-year-olds.

Do they even know, let alone understand, what they are buying into? How could they?

If Phonsie is Opus Dei, then his associating with such young people will have the signature of OD all over it. And OD is about conformity and control. It reminds me of the discredited, so-called ‘conversion therapies “around the world. Controversial, to say the least.

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Ah Phonsie, phonsie, Phonsie, what brings you here😉🙈
Tell me again, Phonsie, why are we here?
Phonsie :
For the glory of the RCC empire, sire.
Frankie anti TLM pope :
Ah, yes. Ah, yes, I remember. Do you see that map, Phonsie? That is the world which I created. For 2000 years, I have conquered, spilt blood, expanded the empire. Since I became Pope, I have known four years without TLM war, four years of peace in twenty. And for what? I brought the sword. Nothing more.
I used comments above from movie ‘gladiator’ .
Gladiator is a masterpiece in my view cos it depicts rcc in terms of power and prestige,cultish and demanding etc.
A powerful movie.
BTW, I saw a photo of phonsie giving ashes on the streets in Waterford.
A attention seeker if there was one although I could be wrong there.

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The video us a powerful insight into Opus Dei at one level and raises many question about its methodology and spirituality. I have met quite a number of Opus Dei members and all of them were very happy with belonging to it. They were smart, intelligent and well heeled people. Not my kind of spirituality but there is a substantial number of people who find great spiritual comfort through Opus Dei. Good for them. Let’s not demolish all who belong to this movement. It’s quite astonishing that Opus Dei run some of the most prestigious colleges and universities around the wirld, some of its institutions beung first class in many spheres. I think it’s unfair to slam Bishop Cullinane. Attributing negativity to him is very wrong simply because of who he is.

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‘Let’s not demolish all who belong to this movement’
I’m not seeing where anyone is saying all the members should be demolished.
Readers with a more sophisticated understanding of cults than yours will understand the tricky nature of disentangling members from cults and it has to begin with a recognition of what the cult is doing.
This is why practicing RCs here always say the commenters critical of your cult don’t understand: it looks different inside and outside a cult.

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If (as you say) the video raises many questions about the spirituality, and modus operandi, of Opus Dei, one wonders at all those ‘very happy’, ‘intelligent’ members you claim to have met.
If such questions have to be asked, then those members, if truly intelligent, should be distinctly unhappy, and clamouring to leave the organisation tout de suite.

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10.48: Opus Dei is not an organisation I’d choose to be long to nor do I approve if their spiritual practices that require hurting yourself with wires or ropes or sharp edges. Nor do I agree with its modus operandi. However, I worked in two oaeisges where there were communities 8f members and my encounters with them was always positive and they seemed very contented in themselves. 10.39: There’s a deliberate agenda against Bishop Cullinane and against any Catholic organisation that is deemed conservative. There is a “demolishing” job done on such groups and individuals.

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12:43
The Church including its religious organisations is responsible for ruining countless lives regardless where these organizations lie on the theological
continuum.Child rape abuse of vulnerable adults covering up by bishops and religious superiors occurs across the board. It is not surprising so many catholics are walking away from such despicable criminal behaviour within the institution. They have persecuted and continue to persecute survivors of abuse. Meanwhile disclosures of abuse for over 30 years continue in this country as well as across the catholic world. Watch this space for disclosures of abuse from majority world such as Africa…etc

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12:43 I’m still intrigued that you call anything that happens on this blog ‘demolishing’. Are you seriously suggesting that Bishop Cullinane is so unsure of his various stances that he would be ‘demolished’ by anything said here?
To the contrary we have repeatedly seen that posts on this blog make bishops double down on their particular positions, including such acts as ordaining the manifestly unsuitable.
I think the effect of this blog is far from demolition: I think it transfers power to those who see bishops and others in a light they don’t like and can walk away. I am sure if Bishop Cullinane is unhappy about anything published here Bishop Pat will publish his rebuttal.
But then I forgot, no priest or bishop reads this blog so are unlikely to be ‘demolished’. 😂

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‘Attributing negativity to him is very wrong simply because of who he is.’
Would you say that about Hitler or Pol Pot? Let’s not attribute negativity to Pol Pot because of putting people to death merely for wearing spectacles.

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Opus Dei are a cult with serious money and greased palms to ensure Escriva was canonised.

Jack Valera is a queer fish – OD henchman in the UK.

Catholic Voices has a sting whiff of OD about it and Austin Ivereigh likes OD I imagine because of the flow of cash.

A strong whiff of repressed homosexuality about them and not working class or blue collar very Catholic elite.

Loathed by UK bishops – one thing they’ve got right.

They recruit like Freemasons and those they approach like to put it about that they’ve been approached whether they join or not.

PJPII loved them but they gave him dosh for Solidarity and baled him out of the Banco Ambrosia scandal.

They know money buys power and influence and use it.

Strong streak of sexual masochism and self flaglgelation – v kinky and therein lies its draw.

Avoid like the plague.

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From the video, it very much seems as though ex-members of Opus Dei require professional deprogramming: they come across as people with issues.

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If ex-lay members require professional deprogramming what amount of professional debriefing do Opus Dei clerics require.

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The US jailed two Opus Dei members. a married couple for treason – Opus Dei like to keep that little nugget under the radar.

Elite professionals like to belong to elite clubs and are shallow enough to not to want to dig deeper into the underbelly.

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Is Holy Family Mission (HFM) at Glencomeragh House in W&L diocese run and funded or partially funded by Opus Dei? According to HFM website, Maura Murphy, Fr. Patrick Cahill, and Pat Reynolds approached Bishop Cullinan with the initiative as they had dealings with him in the past. Is Fr. Cahill a diocesan or religious order priest? The community is made up of young people aged 18-30; some much younger than others.

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10.29am. Fr Cahill is a member of the Work of Jesus the High Priest a Clerical Association of Pontifical Right

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I came across OD in their place – St Stephens green back in 1990s. I found them to be one of the most dangerous cult that I ever came across.
I knew nothing about main characteristics of any cults at that time. But they were the most dangerous ones I ever saw
OD priest that I met was suave, charming, duplicitous, devious and quite deceptive but his body language gave away. Then at that moment, we scooted out of that place as fast as a cheetah.
Never went back there again.
Have a friend who lives in Spain as he told me that OD infiltrated at the highest levels in political, judicial and religious spheres. Their influence and their tentacles almost reached every area in Spanish society.

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Don’t know about the other two, but I doubt very much that DOD is Opus Dei. Too canny for that pious nonsense.

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OPUS DEI SEX ABUSE CASE: AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
September 24, 2018
By: Randy Engel
AN INTERVIEW WITH MR. JUAN CUATRECASAS ON THE GAZTELUETA SEX ABUSE CASE
“… I still think there is a God and that He is good and just. But to be honest, given the Catholic Church’s poor track record with regard to helping victims of sexual abuse and its failure to bring the perpetrators of these horrific crimes to justice, I simply no longer see the Church with the same eyes I once did. I do not think there is any room for cowardice, infamy, and lies in the Church that Christ Himself established.” “We have been humiliated, mistreated and harassed by Opus Dei officials and have suffered from their inhuman treatment of my son and our family.” “I view pedophilia,which is the sexual abuse of young children, and pederasty, which involves homosexual attacks upon adolescent boys, as forms of terrorism. These young victims need social recognition and moral compensation and justice, and not just a cold and indifferent request for forgiveness unattached to any meaningful and concrete acts of reform both by Church and State.” “I am aware that there are many young victims of sexual abuse out there who, with their families, suffer in silence.”
https://akacatholic.com/opus-dei-sex-abuse-case-an-exclusive-interview/

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Yes, just to copy from a quick online search:
Opus Dei is made up of four different types of members: “Supernumeraries”, “Numeraries”, “Associates”, and “Numerary-assistants”. One type, the Supernumeraries, are non-celibate, typically married, and make up the bulk of the membership.
The numerary assistants are the servant class.
Negative though they are, they are effective. They are extraordinarily powerful in Spain and other parts of the Spanish speaking world.

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Former Cardinal McCarrick’s lawyers want child abuse case against him dismissed

His lawyers filed a motion to dismiss the criminal case, asserting that although McCarrick remains “intelligent and articulate,” his dementia and the resulting decline in his memory make him incapable of “assisting in his defense,” they wrote in their motion.

https://eu.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2023/02/27/cardinal-theodore-mccarrick-child-abuse-case-dismissed/69951123007/

You mean he was going to say anything other than ‘I don’t remember ‘ over and over anyway?

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They do weird stuff like not drinking with their meal or tying that kinky spiked thing around their thigh. They’re a bunch of freaks.

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Phonsie makes no secret of his cold showers 🚿
He probably can’t go sea swimming because of the lacerations to his body. ⛓

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These comments have made me smile – great. Thank you all – the ‘moment of passion in the scullery’, the ‘they can f**k right off in 2023, the ‘OD charism’, ‘only Catholics get to Heaven.’ Trouble is you’re all putting me off Ireland – except for Adrian Dunbar – there’s a nice Catholic lad! Unless you’ve got some RC intel on him…….😳

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You will have noticed that despite the miniscule population of Ireland (about 5 million, less than the population of London) even many Irish make a point of being anywhere else. This is no mystery after reading this blog.

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Ha ha ha it’s so obvious that Opus Dei is a cult but hey it’s not love that covers over a multitude of sins but money which funnily enough the love of which is the root of all evil.

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PROSECUTORS CHALLENGE MEDICAL REPORT FINDING McCARRICK NOT COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL
Dedham (MA)
National Catholic Reporter [Kansas City MO]
February 27, 2023
By Damien Fisher
“Prosecutors are challenging the medical report claiming former cardinal Theodore McCarrick is not competent to stand trial on charges he sexually abused a teen in the 1970s.” “Raising the question of competency years after the fact is a standard legal strategy employed by priests accused of sexual abuse, Garabedian said.” “The three counts of indecent assault and battery on a person over age 14 in Massachusetts charges are the only criminal counts he is currently facing. In fact, McCarrick is one of two U.S. bishops to ever face criminal charges for sexual abuse, according to Anne Barrett Doyle with Bishop Accountability.” “The former cardinal faces up to five years in prison if he’s found guilty.” “We are really hoping the judge approaches the claim with a lot of skepticism,” Barrett Doyle said. Referencing information tracked by her organization, she added, “(McCarrick) is accused of abusing more than 20 people including more than 14 children, and he has charmed and duped his way out of accountability for 50 years.”
https://www.ncronline.org/news/prosecutors-challenge-medical-report-finding-mccarrick-not-competent-stand-trial

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The newly appointed PP in Dunmore East (W&L) was a member of the Legionaries of Christ in his youth.
He has been taken into the diocese by Bishop Cullinan.

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6.05pm. Fr Breen the new parish priest in Dunmore East. was a member of the Carmelite Order before being incardinated into W&L by Phonsie

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7.42pm. I only know what I read when he was appointed and L of Christ was not mentioned. He may have been in his youth.

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His appointment to Dunmore caused upset among parishioners. They contacted newspapers local radio social media…etc.

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Opus Dei – work of God. Since when has the RCC been interested in the work of God unless it’s their God- the God of money, greed, avarice, sin and covering up?

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Opus Dei is not a religious order or cult. It is a prelature of the holy Roman Catholic Church. It is very open organisation and has special place in the life of the church and community. It has many centres of Opus Dei around the world..

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You don’t say, John. And the priests wear long dresses… and there’s
no safeguarding in Spain and they’re all very nice and sweetie pie…and…
Get real, John.

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A friend of mine was recruited by one of their honey traps at the London University chaplaincy. Not that was any specific impropriety; nevertheless the process stank of homoeroticism, as he was quizzed daily regarding his masturbatory habits, which aged 18, were pretty unavoidable. Things thankfully descended into farce during their social evenings for lads in Bayswater, where newspapers had anything interesting excised, and on film nights the video player was abruptly paused should anything untoward such as kiss between a man and a woman not his wife be shown. They went after me, but I had jailbait stamped on my forehead in those days, so I was soon dropped as unsuitable. Ridicule is the best weapon.

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9.19: Seamus, how’s Dom Benedict? Have you emailed your felicitations to him today? Is he aware of your perpetual concern for him through this blog? More pertunently, have you invited him for a visit yet? I’m sure he’d enjoy your hospitality…

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Pat. Another slow day. Too much homework. Attention span of your followers isn’t up to it. Flash pictures or short sentences. Suits the country educated clergy. EG Hollywood pp. Kilkenny.

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https://romana.org/en/64/activities-of-the-prelate/pastoral-visit-to-ireland/
The Opus Dei Prelate had lunch with Bishop Michael Smith, head of the diocese of Meath, and Bishop Alphonsus Cullinan from the diocese of Waterford and Lismore. Then after dinner he greeted many families from various cities and had a get-together with university women. Before returning to Rome, he had a chance to visit the parish church of Our Lady Queen of Peace, which the Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin, entrusted to priests of the Opus Dei Prelature in 2007.

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St Bede’s College in Manchester, a prestigious private school, was recently sold quietly by the Diocese of Salford, to Opus Dei. Who then went on to replace the leadership team with Opus Dei staff. Very dark.

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