People Before Profit TD Paul Murphy has said he and his partner plan to raise their new baby gender neutral.
The new dad announced the arrival of his first child with partner Jess last month, who they have named Juniper.
In an interview with the Irish Times, Mr Murphy (39) explained the couple’s decision behind opting not to use gender-specific language. They had decided on the baby’s name before the birth.
“Regardless of whether it was male or female, it was going to be Juniper. I think it’s a gender neutral name,” he said.
We’re not gendering it. So, we’re not describing Juniper as a boy, we’re describing Juniper as a baby, but it is male.
“We live in a deeply sexist and gendered society which creates certain expectations for boys and certain expectations for girls. And those things are changing in a positive direction, but there’s a very, very long way to go.”
PAT SAYS
I may be very old-fashioned and unwise, but I can not get my head around the whole gender neutral and gender neutral pronouns debate.
I am male. I am a gay male. I have never wanted to be anything but male. I am 100% attracted to males. I have absolutely no sexual attraction to females.
But I have no problems with females. I grew up six sisters. I’ve always had close female friends.
I find some females very attractive in various ways – in appearance, emotionally, etc.
UPBRINGING
I was reared as a boy, a male. I would not have wanted it any other way.
For various reasons, I found childhood and puberty quite painful and challenging. Being sexually abused at 6 complicated it all further.
Growing up gay in “Suicide Bomber Catholic Ireland” with all its guiltriddeness and denunciation was very hard.
Being brainwashed in RC schools and seminaries deepened the fog of confusion.
But I never wanted to be a “Juniper”. That might have very well sent me over the edge.
I was never schizophrenic – but if people kept calling me, “THEY,” I may have become so.
I’m absolutely in favour of total acceptance and practical compassion and care for people with sexual and gender issues and dilemmas.
But this whole transgenderism movement leaves me with so many questions and suspicions.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
150 replies on “IS RAISING CHILDREN AS “GENDER NEUTRAL” A PRESCRIPTION FOR DISASTER?”
Absolutely Pat. Look at families who raised certain sons to be Priests.
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Wasn’t Murphy arrested for blocking a government accountants way in the Irish Water protests about 10 years ago.
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Even if true, relevance to today’s blog?
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Blocking of Minister Joan Bruton & other public figures is a matter of public record. No doubt church related abuse, corruption and criminality never happened in any country either!
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Pat, you’re not unwise. There’s a politics of teansgenderism developing that’s very alarming. That babies and young children – as in USA – are being facilitated by professionals to choose their own identity, attending seminars with their parents and signing up for all kinds of medical procedures at 6 years of age, even younger, is morally reprehensible. There are very vociferous ideologues who are creating new “beings” and “concepts” which strike at the heart of what it means to be a human being. The blurring of scientific evidence by political and transgender ideologues will leave huge psychological problems for many in the future. I have a certain sympathy for people who feel trapped in a body they feel they don’t belong to, but the creation and promotion of gender choices so aggressively presents many moral, ethical, medical and religious challenges. What will happen when more of us may find ourselves in an Enoch Burke like situation? Where is freedom of religious beliefs and conscience? A very aggressive feminist movement is also adding their voice to the “do whatever we want with our bodies” philosophy, irrespective of consequences. We should read the report on the Tavistock centre in London…What an eye opener. Adults are playing God with children’s and young people’s lives. Look at You Tube documentaries from the USA and view what’s really happening to children. Many questions need asking. Urgently. Many of the advocates of this new freedom are avid supporters of abortion, decriminalization of drugs and euthanasia. I was, with God’s design, born a male and want to honour my maleness as a gift. I would hate to think that my great grand nephews may be forced not to name their babies until they all attend teansgenderism classes first. Our schools are going to face huge challenges. The soccer and sports clubs of all kinds will face similar challenges. I as a parent would not want my daughter to go to any toilet but a ladies toilet both to one frequented by transmen or women.
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The Irish people are a disgrace for the way they have failed to stand behind Enoch Burke and his family.
He is saying what the majority of Irish parents are thinking and he has lost his livelihood for his trouble.
Enoch Burke has been thrown to the wolves in this issue.
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Enoch Burke has been abandoned, ridiculed because he’s Protestant.
The ROI is still a deeply sectarian and bigoted country.
Had Burke been a Muslim, he’d have had more support from Catholic Ireland.
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Abandoned by two faced cowards, every teacher in Ireland should be out there supporting Enoch Burke instead of posting utube videos and hiding under their desks when the Burke family are out there speaking the truth about this gender tsunami being allowed to hit our Irish schools.
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11:44
A child was sexually assaulted in Legoland, Windsor a number of years ago whilst her parents stood outside waiting whilst she played inside one of the child attractions unaware that a man had crawled inside and lay in wait.
Hard enough to keep kids safe these days without making things even more complicated.
They can choose their lifestyle when old enough to make such a fundamental decision.
What happened to let kids be kids and no wonder poor mental health and suicide is sadly such a major issue for the youth of today.
Paul Murphy should know better or ask his Uncle who’s opinion as a psychologist might be interesting.
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I don’t know much about all this but I’d have thought it should be up to an adult to make a decision about gender changes when they are in at least their mid 20s and with the funds to pay for their own medical care for this.
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Not replying directly to you but am gobsmacked at someone thinking lack of support for Enoch Burke was because he’s Protestant. Most people didn’t know that, many thought he was a Catholic, and don’t forget it was a Church of Ireland school that sacked him.
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That’s right, I’ve even seen stupid people on Twitter asking why doesn’t he become a seminarian in Maynooth and they get very angry when told he is an evangelical Protestant.
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True Declan. It never entered my head for I’d just assumed him to be another fixated Cathbot.
I see them regularly on streetcorners and public squares. In the past I’d discussed with an occasional one but now don’t even acknowledge them, even when they try to give me their bible tracts. Like Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, yes Cathbots too, intelligent reasoning is a stranger to them.
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True for you Kevin.
There is still no cure for cancer or other terminal conditions yet underage persons legally considered too young to have sex can have publicly funded operations on their genitalia.
What happens when 20 years later these same young people decide to sue the authorities for allowing them to have these operations in the first place.
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South Park seems to have hit on the whole gender thing, and with somewhat humorous wit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-LBsz8Up0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0ZCv1O09QQ
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Juniper Is a stupid name for any child. Poor kid. This whole gender neutral nonsense, and the rest of it is a massive ticking time bomb. So many kids and young people are going to be very damaged in a few years time.
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3.05
Have you never heard of St Juniper Serra ofm?
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Patron saint of mixologists, right?
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10.35: Such information is the furthest thing from Murphy’s mind. Adults are causing damage to children by this ideology which for some is being presented as an option for 3/4/5 year olds. It’s an abuse of children. ABUSE.
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Is Murphy & his posh boy side kick Boyd-Barrett going to change the name of the People Before Profit political party?
Persons before Profit maybe.
If Irish taxpayer has to start subsidising all these gender change medical operations, there’ll be no profit to solve homelessness etc.
What a bunch of pointless arseholes, pretty much like the gravy train cleric Fr Rory Coyle, Abbot Rawhide sex on a table Purcell, Fr Chipvan Fitzgerald, Fr Cameraman McCann, Bishop Loudmouth Anti HPV Cullinan, Fr Canker Carey just to name a few from Bishop Buckley’s Daily Billboard.
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@3.05 am
I agree with your comments.
The whole gender band waggon is a complete nonsense. It will lead to a somewhat very strange world.
However, take heart we are only about two generations away from become a Muslim society and then everything will change.
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3:18 Muslims do not see us as being part of their future.
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Trendy attention seeking politicians and the like will create new fodder for the predatory clergy. The court records and nests are full of details on how the priests and their protectors love to prey on confused and vulnerable teenagers.
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Has Michael D. Higgins become a trendy politician by jumping on the anti-migrant protestors’ bandwagon?
Isn’t Higgins as president of the Republic of Ireland meant to be politically neutral?
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No politician is neutral.
Actions not words confirm interests and loyalties.
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But is he allowed to make public such political partisanship? I don’t believe so.
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It’s a rule of office
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You are not old fashioned!!!
Let us be quite blunt and simple. If you have a willy you are a male. If you have a vag8ns are a female. Simple as that.
There are enough problems in the world today without a miniscule minority imposing their will on the majority.
I am with you Pat on the confusion of gender identity.
Look at the problems in Scotland:
Trans rapist that women’s prisons don’t want. It is simply a mess. There seems to be high proportion of criminals who are trans.
I find it criminal that schools are teaching trans rights to primary school children without parental consent. Even bjs. Sick, sick, sick. Demand parental rights now.
Some trans want reversed back to what they were. What a waste of NHS money and resources.
There are too many nutjobs in power. Let them focus more on crime, cost of living and war and peace.
I do not have a problem with abolishing Mrs and simply have Mr. And Miss.
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And if you can’t bring yourself to say penis or vagina in an adult setting you’re a prude, right. Got it.
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I used the word p???y. However, it has been changed. Sometimes that happens with tablets or it was censored.
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7.23
Rather crude. What about hermaphrodites?
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Sex and gender do not mean the same.
Educate yourself, 7.23. Frankly, you’re embarrassing yourself.
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“The Archdiocese reiterates its deep regret for suffering or harm that has been caused by abuse, or if, in the past, allegations of abuse have not been handled according to the highest standards.
“If anyone has knowledge of a priest, or any other church official, living or dead, who may have abused them or anyone else, they should come forward to speak with the safeguarding adviser at the Archdiocese or report the matter to Police Scotland”.
“The court heard the case had come to light as a result of a separate investigation in 2019 when gardaí came across letters the injured party had written to her bishop about Dunne years earlier.
Dunne emigrated for some time and was in ministry in Scotland, but the woman observed on his return that he was filling in to say masses and funerals so at this stage she wrote to her bishop.
The court heard “little or nothing” was done at that stage to make Dunne “amenable to the law.””
Irish media have shied away from naming the bishop. Will there be an exclusive? Does anyone have the courage to name the bishop? Will the current day Ordinary of the diocese be making a public apology to the Offaly woman?
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Poor baby, imagine having a soy boy father.
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Is it not SOI boy? Just sayin’, like.
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U would have to worry for the child of these type of parents.
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Agreed
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It’s dinosaurs like you who are the worry.
I can imagine you down the pub blockheadedly giving your gender tuppence-worth over a pint or ten of the ‘Black Stuff’: “Boys are boys, and girls are girls. That’s it. End of!”
Stop YOUR gender tyranny! Life, anymore than morality, is as clear-cut as black or white. Stretch yoir brain by appreciating nature’s nuances, and stop being such a berk.
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What a burden your sense of self perfection must be to carry Seanie.
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First world problems
More in Murphys line to do what he’s paid for – People Before Profit my arse.
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Hasn’t this TD got better things to exercise his mind over ? This transgenderism and gender neutral stuff is way beyond the concerns of the vast majority of people. It is important that people are respected however they want to present as long as it is not harming anybody else. But this kind of crusade is just wokery gone made. I think Murphy is just trying to draw attention to himself and make himself ‘relevant’. Juniper ? They are berries, usually crushed, that I put in to a venison stew.
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True. What about the housing and cost of living crisis in Ireland.
Many children including those of hardworking families are homeless in the broken Irish housing system thanks to the extensive manipulation and corruption by bankers and politicians and their associates that was allowed to run amok during the Irish Celtic Tiger years and now the majority of Irish people are suffering for this corruption one way or another.
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They are suffering, too, Irish families, because ‘eejits’ like President Michael D. Higgins are speaking out against morally legitimate public protests against the accomodation of so-called ‘refugees’ or ‘migrants’ before that of these families. Higgins is a disgrace.
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11:19
Cute hoor Irish politician
Same old, same old.
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9.03
Wokery gone mad? How?
What if Murphy’s child turns out to be trans? He will have spared the child immeasurable mental suffering.
Murphy isn’t seeking to impose his domestic filial arrangements on anyone else. But he is allowing the child to awaken to its own gender. How can this be bad?
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US group spends millions to track priests on gay dating apps… apparently. https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/16795/us-group-spends-millions-to-track-priests-on-gay-dating-apps- So, turn off your phones, Fathers, when you head out for extra curricular activities, and don’t do Grindr from home. Oh, why do they want to spoil all the fun…. ? Bummer…
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No, dear, the bummers are the priests on Grindr.
That group is wasting their millions and have still missed the point because they’re just giving the info to the bishops. Fools.
How can anyone have missed that the BISHOPS, not the abusing priests, were the real reason the abuse scandal is so huge?
We will hear nothing coming from that data.
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No, they aren’t giving that info to the bishops: not all of it. Some of it has reached Joe Public.
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Link, 11:14?
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Can’t provide one off-hand, and can’t be ‘assed’ looking for one, but they do exist.
Didn’t the group ‘out’ the monsignorial secretary of the USCCB for his frequenting gay bath-houses in The States? Check Church Militant videos for more info on this, cos I’m not gonna do it for you.
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11:14
Da t’internet and da Grindr app and all that lark will finish all those lying two faced bastardos all covering each other’s arses in church and state.
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Pat I am not transphobic – but this is a pile of shite mate – we are either a boy or a girl
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You can take a bet on it, that’s what we are.
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You’re a dinosaur: It’s not about the sexual binary, but about culturally assigned gender roles. A person may be born biologically male, but, genderwise, be female. Paul Murphy understands this nuance; you don’t.
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12.17
Yes, inter-sex children, rather than their parents/guardians or doctors, should be allowed to determine their sex, however long this may take AND, crucially, based on their gender identification.
Sex and gender are not the same.
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That’s the problem – there are some who are born with both sets of genitalia, so they are both boy AND girl. How such individuals are brought up by their parents/guardians must be difficult – and for the child as well! Mother Nature can be cruel perhaps, but these genuine individuals need support. Those who are born with the outward appearance of boy or girl may think they are in the “wrong body” and want to change gender – but surely this should be after counselling, medical advice, etc, and when they are old enough to make their own decisions.
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The comments so far indicate that the suggestion clerics keep making that commenters here are a bunch of anti-catholic bigots, is a lie. Imagine, clerics lying!
The total agreement about gender suggests commenters here are, in fact, RCs, and predominantly clergy.
If you asked that question in a more diverse and younger setting you would get different answers. As it is I don’t think you’ll get different answers because people will be frightened of getting abuse from the cathbots.
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9.46: You’re making all kinds of assumptions and without any evidence. It’s a rather philistine comment. We are each entitled to engage in this most serious moral, ethical and medical issue. Cop on.
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Yes, Padraig, that’s exactly what 9:46 doubtless meant.
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This country has gone to the dogs so it has
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Cheltenham actually
Do keep up, Dear.
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I am trans and sleeping with a priest. Very anon. Don’t ever doubt your colleagues acceptance. Hypocrites
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I take it you are a trans-female still with male genitalia intact.
The vaginia is a strange place and not desired by the vast majority of priests, who are gay.
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Over forty years ago, one of my lecturers at Queen’s University in Belfast told his students that he, and his wife, had performed a sociological experiment on their baby daughter: they had decided to see how she would react growing up without their imposing on her culturally or societally derived gender norms, e.g. they allowed her to choose which toys to play with rather than give her toys culture/society thought appropriate for girls. They discovered that at least some of these norms had not been generated by anything as abstract as culture or society, but had, in fact, been instinctive: their daughter chose to play not with ‘boy’s toys’, but with those culture/society perceived fit for girls.
Paul Murphy, if he isn’t the gender ideologue I believe him to be, will also discover these instinctual truths about his child. If he is such a fanatic, he may do his child serious psychological damage, and cause it bitter resentment.
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Sure, but it is a fact that many biological boys have the female instincts and vice versa
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11.57
Yes, you are right. Which is why it is essential to allow a child to develop its naturally derived gender, regardless of its sex. My lecturer at Queen’s understood this, eventually.
Trying to force a child into gender neutrality (which is what Paul Murphy appears to be doing to his child) may be just as psychologically damaging as trying to force a child to conform to a gender role determined by culturally or societally perceived notions of gender based on the sexual binary, that is, on whether a child is biologically male or female (its sex).
There is no such thing as gender neutrality: everyone has a gender, just as (with relatively few exceptions) everyone has a clearly identifiable sex. But gender, unlike sex, is awakended to: if you like, ‘is grown into’, sometimes over considerable periods of time.
Gender should not be predicted for anyone, nor should it ever be rushed.
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The majority of answers so far are what you get when you ask a question of a bunch of men who don’t understand the subject but think they know everything.
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11.50: You certainly seem to know nothing substantial or intelligent. You gombeen.
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I don’t identify as a gombeen. I identify as a failed semenarian out of solidarity with the ones who get persecuted by the cult.
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12:45 And the readers of this blog keep forcing the identity of unionist on me when I’m not Irish and have never even been there.
They just can’t see what they’re about at any point can they. 😂
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Is Paul’s partner, Jess, male of female?
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I wondered that. Paul Murphy looks a bit androgynous himself, sort of elfish with a very weak chin. Is he trans himself ? Lots of questions here. Anyhow, I feel for a child that is born to people who bang on about all this trans stuff. They will be encouraging the child to ‘explore’ different options for itself, which probably will just confuse and destabilise it. It will have enough difficulties to navigate without all those ones being imposed on it by its woke and right on parents.
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No, 12.14, parents won’t be encouraging their child to ‘explore’ any such thing, as though they were having the child whimsically pick a sexual or gender identity. Don’t be so shallow.
Such parents allow their child the freedom to become what they naturally are.
Stop wanting to force your preferred identities on people, because it’s a sexual /gender ideology that is, actually, a form of cultural/religious tyranny.
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Murphy’s the sort of man who’d give a Starbuck’s gift voucher to his wife’s latest boyfriend.
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11.58: Very hard to differentiate. They experiment with identities. Let adults ruin their lives but not that of their children.
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If they want to raise their child in a culturally neutral context, taking their argument to its logical conclusion, they wouldn’t impose a language on the child but would allow it to make its own choice of language when it had reached the age of reason.
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I bet Murph is morto that he’s calling the thing a saints name. 😹 😂 😂 😹 😹 😂 😂 😹 😹 😂 😂 😹 😹 😂 😂 😹 😹 😂 😂 😹 😹 😂 😂 😹 he’s have been better off calling it after a fish, Trout or Mackerel sound non binary enough to them sure they don’t even have a plural. Perfect Choice.
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I hope with that name, the child will not be teased all his childhood.
I find the funniest statement from the sperm donor (I dare not call him Father)is such a contradiction to his and, the baby carrier (the Mother’s) desire to have Juniper to remain gender neutral, yet the sperm donor’s affirmation that the baby is definitely male, is at odds with his supposed desires.
Lord above!! Will they ever get sense, and he is a T.D.!! Ireland is rearing them still!
I wish little Juniper a contented life ahead, and hope they have not done him a disservice already.
The Gaelic names for this Juniper shrub or small tree were Aittin or Aiten, and Samh., which would have been more acceptable and, make life easier for the child growing up.
Were they thinking along these lines, “Junipers have the capacity to self-prune, shedding branches for survival, and its sap is rot resistant”. There’s an awful lot which may be relevant to the little one, or, more precisely to sperm donor and the baby carrier. What is their reason for it’s (his) need to be reared gender neutral?
I hope they will not be too hard on him having saddled him with that bloody name and, its forced neutral gender state, (by loony parents in my opinion.)
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Mother-in-law’s kitchen…………
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@1.34 pm. I totally agree with your first line Queenie. What a ridiculous name for a boy. Juniper wouldn’t have been half so bad had the child been female. As soon as that child starts school the name calling will start. Stupid parents!
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No worse than the name ‘Hilary’ for a boy, or ‘Shirley’.
What-what!
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There is a God. Tubridy is gone off Late Late . All I’d ask now is the Late Late to go with him.
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The Late, Late Show is about 30 years past its sell by date.
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I liked it with Gay and Pat.
Tubridy ugh!
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Ledwith appeared on the Late, Late back in 1987 to promote the first national collection for Maynooth. We seminarians all packed into the various television rooms in the college to watch it. Ledwith was expecting soft soap questions but all of a sudden a fellow guest, a normally mild-mannered sports reporter, tore into Ledwith and said that Maynooth could sell off a few paintings or a hundred acres instead of tapping poor people for money. Ledwith was furious and tried to put him down with passive aggression and by implying that the man was a halfwit. Gay sided with Ledwith and got in a few digs against the reporter.
The students in the tv rooms back in Maynooth were in uproar at the cheek of the upstart daring to criticise Ledwith and Maynooth and somebody even speculated that he must be a Protestant as no Irish Catholic would talk like that!
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I’m a die-hard unionist, and I enjoyed the Late, Late Show.😕
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Judeo-Christian anthropology is clear: God created two biological genders (sex) male v female. Biology affirms the binary analysis notwithstanding genetic mutation ie hermaphroditism or other anomalous conditions.
Culture or religious ritual can impose itself – castration, eunuchs but the pre-existing gender (sex) remains unchanged.
Psychiatry and mental illness throw up a range of conditions: transvestism or cross dressing or transsexualism but again the gender remains unchanged.
A man born a man who transitions into a woman remains a man: he has no womb or ovaries same for a woman to man she has no prostrate gland or testicles that produce testosterone.
The current debate is less a debate and more a war between essentialism and social construction.
Self evidently essentialism will win the war because in the beginning God created male and female – there is no third sex although there are various orientations.
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‘because in the beginning God created male and female’
I actually agree with the way you’ve described the two sides but your reason that you think essentialism will win is out because this quote 👆 isn’t a reality for the social construction side, or if it is, God is also a social construction.
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Judaeo-Christian, biblical anthropology may READ as you suggest, but this isn’t necessarily what it means, not least because it makes no mention of gender.
Move with the times. Knowledge of human sexual orientation and behaviour has evolved with time. Don’t get stuck in a biblical timewarp.
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@1.44 pm
I agree. All this gender neutral malarkey is nothing more than a social construction – made up!
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Christian asexual anthropology, informed as it is by Paul and Augustine and tainted by Stoicism and a negative view of human sexuality fails (or refuses) to acknowledge that the human person is more ambisexual and pan sexual or omni-sexual so that chastity or celibacy cultural imposed on the biological drive to enjoy the pleasure of sex (heterosexual, homosexual) is problematic.
And baby’s are pleasure seekers par excellence and don’t discriminate by gender but by pleasure but choose their gender based on the biology of their hormones and sexual preference.
Cultural implosion leads to repression and dysfunction.
Boys will be boys girls will be girls.
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Don’t take your cue from Judaeo Christian anthropology, based, as it is, on an ancient book with as much human behavioual science as an old telephone directory,
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Yep, Paul and Augustine f**ked up human sexuality, probably because of their own hang ups and problems. And we have suffered ever since. One of the good things that is happening is that we are becoming more relaxed about sexuality and relationships, for the better. Why should so much that is part of us be made in to such a big problem ? Ah, of course, to the advantage of those who make it a problem ! And that means the Church, bishops and priests, who all have their own warped agenda about sex and sexuality. In the meantime, we suffered. Shame on them,
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Grindr deacon caught in Feds sting. I wonder if the FBI was helped in their investigations by Catholic group opposed to clergy use of Grindr?
https://news.yahoo.com/ex-deacon-queens-gets-16-221400030.html
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Pat – have you seen the church militant article on Calvin Robson and being cancelled at the ordinariate church in London. Something not quite right there, it seems the choir and servers rule the roost there! All seems very odd
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“The whole world in a state of chassis”
(Juno and the Paycock: Sean O’Casey)
O’Casey’s comment is true.
In the millions of years of earth’s existence, sentient humanity, from beginnings 200000 + years ago has continually evolved, and unless we destroy ourselves, a distinct possibility, we will continue to evolve. Knowledge of gender confusion is relatively recent and in today’s media exposure, has rapidly become an issue.
Is gender alignment simply another part of human evolvement? It’s certainly debatable.
MMM
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Gender non-sexual-binary alignment is more a controversy, MMM, than a subject for informed and reasoned debate. You only have to read the growing number of comments today that refer to the Bible, and the religions based on it or its parts, for a human sexual science and ethic to know this. It would be hilarious were it not so pitiful.
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3:50 Did you set out to admit that you are incapable of debating the subject in a reasoned and informed manner?
Perhaps you’d better leave it to the grown ups then.
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Those who rely on an ancient, unscientific book to inform debate on modern topics about which it hasn’t even the slightest notion are anything but grown up.
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@3.05 pm MMM
Well yes we have evolved since the Ice Age.
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8.44. Evolvement Indeed. And our own brief human lifespans tend to shape limited perspectives and opinions which are often challenged by an unstoppable but glacial pace of evolutionary changes. Many people resist change and criticise it with hostility, but fail to recognise it as simply an evolutionary inevitability.
Consider the changes in humanity in the last 1000 years. Yet 1000 years is but the last tick tock of a midnight clock of evolutionary changes which will continue, ……for that clock keeps going……….unless, ……
another quote seems appropriate:
” That’s the way the world ends………not with a bang, but a whimper.”
(The Hollow Men: TS Elliott)
MMM
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Pat please stop and think before you type the word Schizophrenic.
Some people actually suffer from this debilitating mental disorder.
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And why is it UNMENTIONABLE ???
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I never said it was unmentionable.
you haven’t studied medicine or mental ill health issues.
So please don’t use the term willynilly.
It’s a complex illhealth issue.
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I know that. I have worked with hundreds of sufferers.
I was not using it WILLY nilly 😀
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If you want to give your child a gender neutral name the only option is clear: Evelyn.
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Or Pat or Patsy
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@3.51 pm
No! Evelyn is a female name. Blimey, a boy would be teased with being called Eve or Lyn.
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4:03 Evelyn Waugh would like a word with you. As would Evelyn, his first wife.
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Josef Pavelka made National headlines in Ennis, Ireland in 2013 when it emerged he was living in a public toilet in Ennis, County Clare.
Just weeks later he was found dead in an Ennis laneway.
Josie O’Brien is a local woman well known for helping the homeless in Ennis town. She also hosts an annual Christmas dinner for the local homeless.
Josie is now appealing through the Clare Champion newspaper and other media for help to clean up the grave of Josef Pavelka and can be contacted on 087 186 8530.
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A friend of Josef, Tomacz was recently found dead in a shed in Ennis just after Christmas, he was observed sleeping on the street in Ennis on Christmas Eve.
Heartbreaking.
Rest in peace.
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I agree Pat would be good to hear you comments re church militant article. What a mess.
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Pat, your response is strange. This story is not about you or your gender identity. How you feel is irrelevant to how other people understand themselves. I’m very disappointed to see you joining the ranks of anti-trans campaigners. If you don’t understand the complexities of the transgender debate (and your post suggests that you don’t) perhaps take some time to talk to trans people, read some books, and inform yourself.
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6.16: Trans, your response is equally strange. Perhaps you need to read some established, clinical data and research by professional academics. Just Google TRANSGENDER STUDIES… you may be very enlightened. Whatever about adults having challenges about their gender and sensuality, adults should not be focusing any extreme ideology, experimentation or gender realignment procedures on children, who are often as young as 4/5/6. RE: Mr. Paul Murphy deciding with his other half, to refer to their newborn as an “it”, – Juniper – the “ut” that was gifted to them – a boy, a human being, should count its blessings. Mr. Murphy is an extreme abortionist, calling for and supporting abortion up to birth for any reason. If “it” – Juniper – had any “abnormality” inside its mother’s womb, “it” wouldn’t be here! The innocents human baby would have been aborted. THE HYPOCRISY, DISTORTION OF VALUES AND MORAL RELATIVISM IS APPALLING. Adults are not suppise to experiment with their children’s lives. WInder will People Before Profit change to “WE” BEFORE PROFIT…
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Bishop Pat
Your mate and informant – Paddy McCafferty is transphobic and against abortion up until the point of Labour. Yet you claim to be moderate and modern. I doubt that very much now.
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Paddy you need to leave corpus with your boyfriend and live your own authentic life – not creating babies
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I would rather be trans single and happy. Than stuck in a dead end relationship, unhappy and dried up.
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How is it fair that as a gay man, I know there are priests out there, who have vowed celibacy, and yet are getting more sex than me.
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Forget about sex, some even get more hugs and kisses and affection thrown at them than your average Joe. I would love a wee compliment from my boyfriend every now and again, but all I get is critique and negativity, yet I tell him how he is gorgeous all the time.
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He obviously does not find you attractive and is stringing you along Mrs, you would be best being single than tolerating that
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That’s good advice at 7.20, Shauna. Give the conceited ducker the boot, and the harder the better.
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Pat you are so lucky to have Ed. I hope you treat him right. Cuddle up and watch movies a few times a week and then some.
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Thank God, E and I are very happy.
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I wish I could say the same I really do, but I am very happy for you both
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Pat, may I ask a question? What do you think is the recipe for a good, healthy and sustainable relationship?
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Juniper is a horrible name, it’s as well it’s being raised non binary. I hope when ‘it’ turns 5 it rebels and tells everyone it’s a he/him/his
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6.57: You mustn’t be a good looking bloke!! A silly comment. Go stand at a street corner.
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Is it any wonder people turn to drink with nasty vitriol like that
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7.21: It is a silly comment. Don’t blame priests for his misery. Laughable. Get a grip.
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Priests are the root cause of their own relationship problems
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7:14
He’s always standing there
On his own.
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I was raised a male but I loved barbies and girly stuff. But never did I question my gender. Jeysus wept, what is happening to the earth? If my grandfather could see these children claiming they are all sorts of genders he would be digging his way from the grave.
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You’re gay, I take it. Many people don’t understand this, anymore than they do transgenderism.
You’d think you’d have made more of an effort.
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Pat you are lucky, if you go into hospital at the minute you will be looked after by males and females. Most likely Indians. When I am your age I will be looked after by drag queens and ‘they’ people. Our elderly get confused at the best of time, god help me and my peers.
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Well, the first time we met
You said you’d never settle down, without a doubt
You said your ex still comes around and lives next door
I found his things around your house
What’s that about?
Don’t take a genius, yeah I see it
Even my friends hate that I’m with you
A million reasons, I should be leaving
I need more hands to count all the issues
But I keep on runnin’ through these red flags
I’ll blame myself because I know it’s bad
But I keep on runnin’ through these red flags
I see the signs, but I still want you
But I keep on running through them
You don’t touch my body
I listen to nobody
Nobody can stop me
I keep on running through these red flags
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It’s a man’s world and if I had a child I would want it to be a boy, even transitioning is easier for males to females. Everything is just much easier.
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Pat, I’m sure you’re aware that a recently ordained priest in an English diocese left the priesthood last year to transition and is now living as a woman in another city?
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The Irish clergy are literally green with envy.
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It’s a lovely night for a Chinese and a movie in front of the tv with a glass of wine – keep warm everyone
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I feel sorry for anyone trapped in a body they don’t feel they belong to. We have all been there, where we feel trapped in loveless relationships but yet we plough on with them, but to plough on being a man when you feel like a woman must be tough.
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Pat mate try to avoid being hospitalised as the RVH is on the brink of collapse. There are 3 patients lying in corridors on every ward, it’s a disgrace.
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It’s one of my favourite days of the year tomorrow. Felons from 10am and I never remember a thing about the 17th of March, sometimes I just wake up on the 19th. Happy St Patrick’s day ya all and our Pat
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A lot of rest rooms in the city are now gender neutral – I find it disgusting seeing filthy urinals in with the cubicles where I would urinate. All these brash men standing shaking their penises as I wash my hands, I’m sorry dear but I would rather be incontinent.
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Trans people will see the end of the world as we know it. Indians now make up for 2/3 off the world trans community
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And 2/3 of the world population – they are beautiful creatures
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I have heard of one young deaf man who changed into a woman few years ago. He was supported by his mother as he’s now living in Uk. The reason was that uk are more open minded than 🇮🇪.
Never met him but heard stories re operation changing his gender. That reminded me of the ladyboys in Thailand known as 3rd gender ‘.
I recall on my 1st visit to BKK (long ago) in short for Bangkok,i didn’t believe the idea of ladyboys until I entered a money bet with a friend of mine to see if she is a man or woman. I lost that bet cos it was a man with boobs naked from waist down.
Realised it was very difficult to spot a ladyboy even now as I wouldn’t know it until he or she entered our hotel bedroom. Then I kicked her out after finding out its a ladyboy. However the consequences of this was that I have to pay her cos she as ladyboy, entered the hotel room. Hotel receptionist explained to me as rule of a thumb to pay he or her when entering a hotel bedroom etc.
That was my mistake, typical tourist mistake as I’m little bit more wiser now than I was some 8 years ago.
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You must spot priests when you out in them places Deaf Guy.
Looking forward to a blog on that some time.
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Brilliant article in ‘The Pillar’ about why priests steal. In many cases a male lover is involved.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/why-priests-steal-researchers-look-to-fraud-triangle-in-parish-life/
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Blackmail is commonplace, priests appear extremely privileged to impoverished sex workers with addiction and other issues.
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This is an interesting bit re various dioceses h/tip to church militant.
Extract –
recent “reorganization” plans many dioceses are seeking to implement have served as a cover for the bishops to sneak their assets into different holdings that victims can’t access. It also allows them to gain even more control over their priests.
Does it remind you of a particular diocese in uk😉
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An article in response.
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