I am not the first person to identify serious flaws in the way the Catholic Church deals with allegations of sexual abuse. That priests are living double-lives and contradictions are apparent in the way they actually live with the way they profess to live is not in dispute.
In her scandalous but rarely read 2005 book, Priests in Love, Jane Anderson makes an admission to widespread sexual infidelity amongst Australian Catholic clergy.
The author surveyed thousands of priests promised anonymity and presented a compendium of confessions from men who have turned their back on mandatory celibacy to follow their own consciences.
She rightly observed that “prior to Vatican Council II (1962-65) the liturgical practice reflected the firm belief that the Mass was a sacrifice in which the priest and his actions were distinctly separate from the people. Everything was centred on the priest at the altar.” [1]
The priest was separated from the people and his role was so central to the lives of Catholics that they became revered as cultic leaders, almost the personification of Jesus on earth.
The publicly promoted premise behind the insistence on celibacy was that the priest needed to be as pure and spotless as the offerings that he handled. A vow of chastity was what qualified a man to hold such an esteemed preaching position within the church.
Of course, to maintain this façade, the priest must at least appear to be chaste even if he were not. Bishops, who rely on a number of such willing men to celebrate the daily Mass, will never pry into the priests’ personal lives to determine whether or not he was, for fear of finding out to the contrary.
Today, in Catholic parishes throughout the world and particularly in Australia, men are pretending to be celibate in order to hold the exalted office of priest. They are keeping up the image for a church that is losing its way in secular society. Catholicism is significantly losing its influence with the community and even with its own remnant adherents.
If it were not for its ubiquitous parochial school system and the government grants sustaining them, the Catholic Church would have died out long ago.
The ongoing financial success and academic leadership of Catholic schools are propping up the Church’s flagging identity and topping up the church coffers depleted after endless sexual abuse compensation claims.
But the church still needs to have enough men willing to celebrate the Sunday Mass o give the impression that it is business as usual. It doesn’t matter whether or not these men are in fact celibate, as long as they look like they are.
No one within the organisation speaks publicly about this although most are aware of the hypocrisy.
I should know…
I was one of them.
PAT SAYS
I can’t believe how niaeve and innocent I was when I entered seminary in September 1970 – 53 years ago.
I really believed that the RCC was good and that the vast majority of priests were good, too.
I continued in that belief through seminary, and when I heard of, at that time, the rare bad priest or seminarian, I was introduced to and accepted that old RCC lie – the “one bad apple” excuse.
After ordination, I was released into the clerical pool.
Within my first year, two senior clerics – canons – and one Cistercian Abbot had tried to sexually seduce me.
I lived with two elderly parish priests who subjected me to extreme forms of verbal and psychological bullying.
I lived with priests who were alcoholics and womanisers.
In Northern Ireland, I was again bullied in presbyteries to the point of being physically beaten.
In later years came the tsunamis of the sexual abuse of children, the Magdalen Laundries, the secret graves of babies murdered by nuns, the rape of nuns etc, etc.
But the other great big scandal in the RCC has been the gradual and now almost complete HOMOSEXUALISATION of the RCC episcopate and priesthood.
The RCC priesthood is now a GAY PROFESSION.
Most of those gay priests are sexually active – and not just with individual males – but in gay saunas and at gay orgies.
Add the FINANCIAL CORRUPTION to all of this, and you now have an RCC that is more corrupt than the Italian Mafia, the Chinese Triads, and the Russian mobsters.
This situation will continue for a long time as the RCC is very rich and powerful.
It will only finish when the last child is abused, the last nun is raped, the last seminarian is sodomised on the monastery kitchen table, the last priest visits a gay sauna – the last foolish pensioner gives the last bishop 5,0000 cash, the last altar is descreated with semen etc ………
The RCC has been crucified Christ every day for 1700 years.
This crucifixion will continue every day until …..
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
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Wait for it
‘Vatican 2’!
‘More lace!’
‘Social workers!’
‘Any other random thing….’
All to try to deny that you yourselves, the clergy and their stooges, are the problem.
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Paul Connell is Bishop of Ardagh!
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9:07 Like anyone cares!
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Connell is yet another handy number merchant.
Same old, same old………..
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Another appointment of a desk priest. They want administrators capable of managing the decline.
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Patsy you were saying that prior to Vatican II The Mass was a Sacrifice, it still is. Vatican II could not change that as you know, although with the shenanigans of the polyesters you can’t blame younger generations for not knowing what The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass is. As regards the dreadful time you had with those elderly priests there is always two sides to a story can you imagine what they felt to be confronted by a passive aggressive attention seeking curate. No wonder they reacted they must have been delighted when you left.
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The Mass is fundamentally a meal which commemorates a sacrifice in which communicants agree to participate and from which they draw the grace to do so.
Your stressing the sacrificial facet of the Mass misunderstands the nature of Passover Seder, itself a commemorative, Jewish meal. What we call ‘The Last Supper’ (from which Mass is derived) was, in fact, such a meal.
If you don’t know the Jewish origin of the Mass, you’ll never know and understand the Mass itself.
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1.01
Sources please.
Your blythe enunciation of what the Mass fundamentally is or is not displays no awareness of the relevant historical or contemporary scholarly debates behind these assertions.
There is an irony in your alleging lack of awareness on the part of the commenter you are responding/reacting to.
Jejune standard of argumentation.
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Eucharist or communion ceremony was supposed to stop after Jews stopped attending churches in approx 130 AD. What has to be remembered is the Holy Spirit gifts in the Body.
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Some social workers are trying hard to fight this by NOT running away. Its very difficult. Please have some respect. We have been deceived – regardless of profession. Stop putting us in with your other little boxes with their huge, evil, powers. Please try praying for us – stop stereotyping.
Some in Vatican and others on your list will be honest and trying to fight back. The ‘sheep’ need help. The knowledgeable sheep. We need that especially against those knowledgeable sheep who have vested interests – monetary, sexually, etc. Newcastle on Tyne as much as anywhere else, at the moment. Prayers not preyers…….
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@ 1:01pm
I know and understand The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass very well. It is the renewal on our Altars of the unbloody Sacrifice of Mount Calvary offered for the living and the dead. Nothing at all to do with any Jewish meal your, understanding is wrong and heretical.
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You know and understand nothing at all, except how to be historically ignorant, and personally stubborn.
The Mass IS fundamentally a meal. We EAT bread, and we DRINK wine, to commemorate the crucified Jesus, and in obedience to his instruction, EAT my body, and DRINK my blood.
These prandial elements, historical and theological, are completely missing from your pre-Vatican II ‘understanding’ of the Mass. Come into the present, and stop showing yourself up.
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5.40
It has to be said, to claim, as you attempt, an absence of Jewish categories on which authentic eucharistic theologies are based is wholly incorrect. Jesus was Jewish. As was Mary and the vast majority of early disciples and apostles.
How could you not know these basics?
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Clerics & cohorts are Holding onto their power and privileges much as a dog with a big juicy bone would do.
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Any update on the doggin Priest club or has that all been hushed up as well.
No coincidence that a few of the main players are now on sabbatical.
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@ 6:47pm
I would never show myself up by coming into your present, which I absolutely disagree with. So keep your heretical advice to yourself just go and have a preprandial before your jewish meal I wont be joining you.
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Pat, while I think you are unnecessarily tarring all of us in one sweep, many of us, like you, though in different ways, are making daily efforts to stay faithful to priesthood and to the core of what “priesthood” in Christ actually means: for me, its one thing – service of others in imitation of Christ. This in itself is a monumental challenge and many of us fail the test but still believe in it. Holy Thursday will be our reminder of what true service is about – the JESUS way only. It’s over 40 years since I was ordained and I am shocked at the changes that have occurred within and outside the church. The abuse scandals and the inexcusable, criminal negligence of Bishops is a grave, almost unforgiveable sin/crime. The poor and careless treatment of victims and survivors will remain an eternal damnation on the Church. The revelations of various clerical scandals in every way are reprehensible and contrary to the ideals we espouse and promise to live. In the face of enormous moral debauchery, corruption and duplicitous behaviour by many, it is disheartening and dusillusioning to remain with confidence (in my lifetime) that a completely new model of “service” in Christ will be defined. Each day, those of us who are doing our utmost to do what we dedicated ourselves to doing and being have to fervently pray to God to keep us strong, caring, faithful, kind and prayerful. While we are human and prone to the vagaries, sins and imperfections of our humanity, the integrity of our “priestly” vows must be a moment by moment renewal within. While many efforts are being made in parishes to create servant leadership where we affirm the gifts of all and let them flourish, the “priesthood” of now is badly broken. For me, the wonderfully good, prayerful and Christ like parishioners with whom I work are my salvation and inspiration. I still maintain that you should have founded more Oratories…with the one objective of restoring true gospel living. But such comes at a price which we are not always willing to pay.
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Faithful to the “priesthood” and to the corrupt interests of its business.
As Heather Humphries told the media querying her two unoccupied flats yesterday
Youse know what you Boyz will do, f off and leave us alone”
Do one, Padre & take your stalkers with you.
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That’s one ticked off my clerical lack of self awareness bingo card. ❌
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11:38 professional Judas parasites like you pay for nothing, earning your cozy lifestyle by proactively perverting the course of justice & covering up for the multiple sexual and financial misconducts of your colleagues and benefactors.
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10.07: Hi Magser the rejected. Still spewing your vomit. The sewer must be full by now. You pathetic thing.
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Nonce protectors
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He’s the biggest parasite of all. His stays in Ward 15 cost a fortune and he’s on benefits for self-inflicted conditions.
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Priesthood in Christ, 11.38? A contradiction in terms, surely, since Jesus was not a priest. Nor a rabbi either, for that matter, though some addressed him in this way. I wonder if it ever went to Jesus’ head, that title, the way it has gone to priests’ heads from being called ‘Father’.
The Gospel’s a strange work, isn’t it? Telling us things that aren’t true to entice us to the Truth, to Jesus himself? If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear we were being pranked.
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Please pray for we parishioners. Your response – if really true – is much needed. I have no trust left in the Church because the harvest is great and the labourers are trying hard not to run away. We must begin again. I can no longer, in conscience, take Holy Communion. The truth is revolting but it sets us free to pray properly for the guided outcomes Christ gives us for Holy Week and every day and week. Thank you.
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Pat, this priest, Fr. Kevin was killed in a typhoon in the Philippines in Nov. 2013. He married the love of his life and their child was born in September just before his death. Many articles about him can be found on Google. A courageous man who spoke the truth. His book must be a good read and seems to have very disturbing revelations.
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Fr Kevin had the integrity to walk away and live his best life in what turned out to be his final years.
Better than being the jealous and dissatisfied spiteful two faced troublemaker pp and his gang in this parish for years.
The truth and a decent days work will set them all free.
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Agreed, may Kevin rest in peace.
A man of integrity.
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I have the same love and respect for 3 priests who were my pps ( there may be others – not publicly known) over the years who’ve done the same. I would name them Fr. because they have earned ( the wise of us) our love and respect. And the Title., Fr. Academia is no indicator imo.
And no love or respect left, for another priest ( again as above – undoubtedly many others now I have been made aware).
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Most readers will be aware that each seminarian must now do a psychological assessment before entry. Two points of note arise;
1. Despite the introduction of this assessment the rate of Strange Goings On in seminary are appearing to increase
2. The real purpose of the assessment is merely to identify the would be seminarian’s sexual orientation.
… as per usual, things are not as wholesome as advertised
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3. to appear to be doing something about the number of kiddy fiddlers in the ranks
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9:35 they spend more time money fiddling and on “lucrative assignments” for benefactors these days.
Kids generally don’t spend any or much time in church & definitely not unaccompanied any more as parents and grandparents are now more clued in.
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That’s daft! Regardless of sexual orientation, debauchery, adultery etc – just make them secular but with a conscience to address – same as other Christian denominations. Woops – sorry – forgot – shucks – the RC church isn’t Christian – its Catholic. Strange that ! One didn’t notice Christ being ‘baptized’ a Catholic. Maybe we’re null & void in God’s eyes. Whose fault might that be, guys?
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A bunch of bitchy spiteful Queens addicted to the handy number lifestyle guaranteed as long as they play ball & cover up merchant.
Just look at how lucrative this continues to be for Rory Coyle, being one example.
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Fr Michael, Bolton Abbey who was conducting the investigation into Abbot Richard Purcell, Mount Mellary Abbey & Roscrea gave the distinct impression that he was not very aware of things at all. Make of that what one will, seems improbable.
We’ve seen time and time again that there are none so selectively dumb, deaf and blind as a Roman Catholic cleric who chooses to sell his integrity to the Devil to remain in ministry.
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1:04 The privileges afforded to Fr now Dr Rory Coyle confirm exactly what the RCC has become in 2023.
Playboys and girls in the richest organised Mafia in the world peddling God as a commodity to garner shekels for their ongoing towers of abuse, corruption and criminality.
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Clerics and their networks are complicit in institutional and personal dysfunction simply by being there and doing nothing to address the tsunami of allegations that have emerged in recent decades about colleagues in their midst. They are complicit whether they admit it to themselves or each other or not.
The right thing for them to do in order to continue to claim the attributes they falsely self-proclaim is to deal robustly and directly with allegations and to ensure that the values that they and their Church are supposed to uphold are upheld.
They can do this with compassion and care to all if they wish, but they have to be seen to do something, rather than just burying their heads in the sand, which can be seen as naive, but I am beginning to think it is a sign of disdainful and dismissive arrogance.
Whatever, by their present attitude in refusing to engage with these serious allegations, they make themselves complicit in what has happened and what is happening now. We have the right, therefore, to call them out. there is a solution. They just don’t seem willing to take it.
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Mind you its hard for them to do that when they’ve spent their entire ‘vocation’ doing the same themselves. With carefully groomed women, with financial and sexual assets for them. Its mansplained away don’t ya know? 🤮😂😡
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In many parishes throughout Ireland the dirty work is left to Religious communities and charities like SVDP, unfair in my thinking.
Diocesan clergy feel it is the duty of others to look after the less well of or the marginalised in society.
Very few poor Roman Catholic priests and indeed very few that share their mass of wealth with the less fortunate yet they are given government financing on top of parishioner funding.
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Some of them, you have ( I have!) to admit – are wonderful actors. Missed their vocation to tread the boards. They do raise a smile when they point the finger, after Mass even during it on occassion ( “hello that was Holy Mass you just celebrated”. ) at those who won’t fall at their feet in reverence. We should have a BAFTA event for clergy. Who’s the Dame? Who’s the Saint? Who’s the *****. 😲🤭
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Back to basics-
ABCs, Metanoia, Baptism in the Holy Spirit, Live the Gospel, Walk daily in the Holy Spirit.
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Indeed! Hello. Nice to meet you on here. I had to research metanoia. We try our best.
✝️🙏🙏🙏✝️
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1 . To the Vatican diplomatic power, we are a means only; this is not of faith.
2 . There are myriad ambiguous channels and affiliations for exploiting what element A has “on” party B (going back some generations); these goons care nothing that the sole overt legitimate responsibility “bearer” C is in some cases innocent.
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Today is Chrism Mass in our diocese. Oh, what a show. All those priests out showing themselves off, parading down the aisle, reinforcing their specialness and their ontological apartness and difference. What a load of nonsense. Most of them these days can barely waddle down the aisle, so fat are they, or old, or tottery. But, they will do everything to be there today and to be seen, to be relevant. Half of them will be from abroad, and you can see the conceit on their faces; their time will shortly come and they will be in charge. You think the Russians are good at kleptocracy? You just wait and see what some of our foreign priests are capable of in the transfer of financial goods. So, all in all, the collection of clergy who will gather today should largely be retired or in care homes, and the other crowd should be very carefully watched. And, still the bishop will mutter inanities and platitudes.
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You could just have said that you’re a racist and hate old people without trying to bring the chrism mass into it, you know.
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It’s probably the same commenter who derides nuns for being old.
Pity I won’t be there to see it when he arrives permanently at the old people’s home and starts ranting that he doesn’t want to be with the old people.
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…..and people with weight issues.
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8.43: RACISM and ELDER ABUSE at its ugliest. This comnent is morally reprehensible and were it saud publicly in a market square, the hater would be arrested for incitement to hatred. This is totally unacceptable. But the moral coward, bigot and racist here is the commenter himself. Disgusting.
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How’s the compensation and redress schemes going to finalise your business with the elderly survivors and also the families of deceased victims of Roman Catholic Church related sexual and financial exploitation going, Padraig?
What your Church continues to inflict on this group is indeed criminal ELDER ABUSE.
Sexual and financial Exploitation and people trafficking of natives in the poorest regions of the world constitutes intolerable RACISM by your self entitled membership.
And that’s before one examines the extensive use of local and international sex workers and hoods by current clergy and their associates.
You certainly are busy Boyz and Gals, Padraig.
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Are you an old, fat, foreign priest yourself, Padraig? So, is ‘Padraig’ just a novel affectation since you arrived on these shores?
Top of the morning to ya, then, Father Padraig! And may you be half an hour in Hell before God knows you’re dead.
That’s an old, Oirish form of well-wishing, Father Padraig, said with deep affection, to be sure. I think I got it the right way round, but I’m not certain, like. Sure, isn’t it the thought that counts?
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9.39 & 10.53
Well said.
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Reply to;Padraigsays:
Apr 5, 2023 at 10:53 am
“Many a true word said in jest”
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Padraig I agree that the delivery may have been somewhat harsh but the sentiments are correct.
The ostentatious displays of religious authority at events like Good Friday are atrocious. Of course in Ireland 1955 the locals were duly impressed with this pageantry of hypocrisy writ large in lace, incense and funny hats. Now of course its a joke. Meanwhile back in 1955 these ogres – beasts really – were abusing children and adults the length and breadth of Ireland. It is pathetic these days, old queens and geebags poncing around having protected abusers.
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Many of those abused have had their lives totally destroyed, a life sentence through no fault of their own.
Life isn’t a dress rehearsal.
Thousands of those abused by clergy have also experienced profound spiritual abuse, alienation from the Christian community and sacraments, plus many of their family members have also abandoned their faith.
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Racism and elder abuse are what we read constantly from our PP in the vile stuff he spews on Facebook
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One would almost feel sorry for Padraig as she frequents this blog displaying her decades of pent up prejudice, bigotry hatred and pent up resentment but then one is reminded of the consequences of the ongoing perversions of her colleagues and herself…….
Que sera sera and all that……
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Your reminder at 8:43 that the only time human life is valuable to pro lifers is in the womb and otherwise you can be raped, abused and dehumanized, especially if you’re old or ‘foreign’.
So called pro life is always a lie.
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Abuse mostly occurred after VII and peaked in the 1980s. Read the John Jay and Murphy Reports.
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Paul Connell of Meath new bishop for Ardagh & Clonmacnoise.
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Paul Connell is yet another Irish Bishop carefully selected to defend the alleged sexual and financial screwing around of priests that clearly doesn’t trouble RCC as long as the public don’t find out about it.
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11.26: Actually, I’m a true Irish man, a fluent Irish speaker. I’m tall and thin, handsome (I say with modesty), have great admirers, good sense of humour and proficient in 3 other languages!! I discern a s***face from afar and much as I’d like to embrace you, the stench of your bile and vomit is a turn off, even in your words. There ain’t any feeling of attractive aesthetics about you. Stay in your cave, snake!
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You sound histrionic, Father Padraig. Just a tad, mind. Sensitive, too, but much more than just a tad. Just sayin’, like; not suggestin’ anything by it.
Did you give that sense of humour you claimed for yourself a little vacation? It’s just that it doesn’t quite come across. What I am getting is that ‘bile and vomit’ you find such a turn off. (Sniffs) Yes, definitely bile and vomit.
I’m handsome, too, Father Padraig. Well, judging by the gay, second, lingering looks I get when out and about. And I say this with limitless immodesty. I take such flattering attention as deeply complimentary, and with not a little gratitude.
Snake? Me? You’ve got my number, haven’t you, Father Padraig?
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3.32pm. All the people in your AA meeting think you’re gorgeous.
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1.34: Richard, you nullify any argument by your ignorant effeminising of my name. This imbecilic language is typical of bigots. Enough said. Try to seem intelligent.
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2:36pm
It’s a long time since we were in the Seminary.
Get over yourself.
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Hey, kids, rock and roll, rock on………….and see what happens…….
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Sure we all know what we are all up to. We don’t need a book by a dead cleric to tell us.
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Alkie parasite priest comment. Wouldn’t work to warm himself.
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He was a very handsome man
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Our priest is gay, we love him, but love his gay lover more
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@ 9:03am
Oh please! you sound a great shower altogether, God save us.🙄
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Give it a rest, ya b……x! It’s Holy Week, and the march to love is underway. Love is love is love, and I’m bettin you’re not getting any. 😏
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9:55 Fr Rory, can’t you stop showing off for even five minutes 😇
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I did not have sex with that table! I do not eat chocolate!
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You have created all this trouble with you and your gang, well the mafia won’t break me dear
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@m9:55am
Nah! you give it a rest ya cretin and stop trying to copy yar betters everyone knows yar an imposter. I’m surprised that you know it’s Holy Week. On this Spy Wednesday we can only imagine what you call love.😏
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Abbot Richard Purcell has every opportunity and indeed the right to publicly deny all allegations, and to prove Bishop Patrick Buckley and indeed anyone else wholly incorrect.
Where is the public statement from Abbot Richard Purcell and his Superiors.
Purcell has not chosen to do so for whatever arcane reason.
Transparency my arse.
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C’mon Pat…….you’re falling behind with the news. New bishop for Ardagh and Clonmacnoise…….Paul Connell, Meath priest. He has “briefly” worked in a parish. Forty years ordained and mostly behind a desk.
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Never heard of him – which may be a good sign.
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Desk experience and ability is what’s valued by Roman Catholic Church hierarchy.
The dwindling numbers of front men at the coal face in parishes are gradually being replaced by lay deacons and pastorals from influential business backgrounds and other carefully selected entities deemed useful to the commercial interests of the Roman Catholic Church.
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I wonder what role he had in saving Mark Kirby and destroying his victim.
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During this Holy Week a supporter of Fr. Tom Deenihan’s ongoing persecution of Dom Benedict Andersen has been appointed to episcopal office.
Was it absolutely delightful for the four-person delegation to leave the Chancery offices of Meath to visit Abbey of Saint-Joseph de Clairval in France?https://bishoppatbuckley.blog/2022/12/22/did-deenihan-lie-to-a-french-abbot/
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Pat that’s a great post and it’s interesting that you mention mob groups. The Italian, Irish, Russian and other mobsters all have internal codes of conduct that are generally adhered to and the absolute purpose is to make money with as little death and jail time as possible. Rape and child sex abuse are absolute no-nos
The RCC on the other hand rapes, murders and abuses as much as it wants all the while collecting the cash. It is infinitely worse than any mob group.
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Comes to something when you’re a disgrace to the name of mobs.
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It would be interesting to know what Kevin Lee told Cardinal Pell. Everything, I suppose, including the incidence of clerical paedophilia in his own pastoral patch (likely a microcosm of what goes on across the Catholic clerical world). But (sigh) I have so many books to read, would it be wise to add Lee’s to the list? I admit I’m tempted. And, yet, I’m barely halfway through Martel’s weighty tome. Decisions, decisions.
Back on point though, the Sheep should take especial note of what Lee says about their donations’ funding indolent, hedonistic, sexually promiscuous clerical lifestyles. How do they feel about this? Would they want even to be associated with, never mind fund, a church that not only tolerates these men, but actually facilitates their extravagant sinning? And would Jesus approve if they did either, never mind both? It would kind of defeat the point of being a Christian, wouldn’t it? The Sheep seem to have no sense of such nuance.
Yesterday, a commenter described priests as morally spineless. Was it a little harsh? Who knows? But now even I am beginning to wonder. Kevin Lee says that many of these men did not become priests to serve Christ, but to serve themselves: to enjoy an all-expenses-paid lifestyle with considerable perks, including sexually criminal acts. Narcissists to a man. So, I naturally ask myself how these men could be anything BUT morally spineless? Selfish people are not known for courage, are they?
Catholic priesthood is not a barrel with a few dozen bad apples: it is a rotted barrel, infested throughout with the woodworm of corruption and vice. How could it produce anything other than men equally corrupt and vice-ridden? Men not in the least interested in serving Christ (which DOES require moral backbone), but men drawn only to self-service. Moral cowards who will exploit every opportunity, in any and every way, to satisfy each moral vice in their corrupted ambitions and proclivities, but who will avoid, as though they were the plague, occasions calling for self-denial and self-sacrifice, for that very rare thing among Catholic priests: Christian courage. Want a recent example? Facilitating, through conscienceless silence, Bishop Cullinan’s high farce that a certain Cistercian ‘monk’ was a priest ‘in good standing’ with the Church (even if he wasn’t obviously so with Christ).
Recently on Facebook, I was struck by the following: ‘Waste no time on people who expect you to cross oceans for them, but who wouldn’t jump across a puddle for you.’ And do you know what? I immediately thought of Catholic priests.
It’s a funny old world.
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Excellent contribution 👏
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Irish police are launching an “enquiry” into “predators” in the Irish army.
Intense hate crime and exploitation targeted at women, children, disabled and other vulnerable groups continues to form the foundation of wealth accumulation in the Irish Roman Catholic Church.
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10.01
Blaming the church for the crimes of the army. Jumping on the bandwagon.
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11:46 Why not? The cultists who comment on here blame social workers and you don’t all rush to protest.
Y’all want to be the moral leaders, remember? So don’t complain when people follow your example. 🤡
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11:46
It’s like those priests & their colleagues blaming kiddies for “tempting” them.
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12.31
Yet you attempted to join them. Until thankfully …
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Cop on to yourself Anthony Ryan
The Church comes first
All the time and every time.
No exceptions
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Just the Irish one ? 😳
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1:26 Irish Catholics are if anything, only ever Irish. I once had the pleasure of living in a parish (in England) largely run by an extended Italian family, and loved the very different experience.
A priest once told me that a major problem in his opinion was that church law and policy were mainly conceived by Italians, but mostly implemented in the English speaking world by the Irish.
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In most of my parishes the people of Irish descent lived and let live. But in my present one they irritated me by assuming I’m Irish, but I can’t oblige them. My family of origin were a religious minority within a religious minority.
I did know one parish where we were all dictated to by an Indian (non cleric). I think Slovakians are sweet. Some Italians are sweet, a friendly lady I knew would cook tasty frittered courgette flowers, she learned to read in middle age specially so she could read the Bible.
On a trip to a Eucharistic Congress in Lourdes the contingent from actual Ireland led by Card. O’Faeiough booed us despite our being catholics and most of our party having Irish grandparents – presumably because the grandparents had gone to live in England.
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The dominionists with their body theology are spreading their rot throughout all our secular societies.
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Where are all the Irish priests currently unaccounted fir?
They are being financially and otherwise fully supported by Irish Bishops and members.
What works are these priests doing?
Are they doing official church stuff?
This is a matter of public concern and interest.
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No MIAs here in Killaloe, all accounted for
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Where is Mark Kirby?
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“Waste no time on people who expect you to cross oceans for them, but who wouldn’t jump across a puddle for you”.
Very well put @ 9:48am.
Exactly sums up the RCC and it’s self interested entities and agendas.
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What’s the fee to date for Cardinal Pells celebrity lawyer?
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Why, do you want to chip in?
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It’s genuinely sad to think that the Cistercians are as corrupt as the rest.
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The sadness is the result of a normal human coping strategy. It’s very distressing to think that the notional alleged bride of Christ is up to her elbows in crime. So people justify this in their heads to reconcile these two things. Examples of these are the ‘few bad apples’argument, attempts to find ‘faithful’ parts of the church, attempts to blame it on things like modernism or the sexual revolution. The most ludicrous is the rationale where the RC church is supposedly no worse than anyone else (if it’s no better, what is the point of it?).
As for the Cistercian s St Benedict is often pictured with his finger to his lips as in this statue from Silverstream, which suggests bad as well as good silence:
https://www.cenacle.co.uk/saint-benedict-statue-12-inch-plaster
Basically, if you’re surprised or shocked at any amount of depravity and duplicity, it’s because you’ve been scammed.
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Reply to; Anonymoussays:
Apr 5, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Selling for £90 for a statue!!!!!! I would cut my hand off first. If that isn’t daylight robbery, nothing is.
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Queenievenus, it’s also 12″, the size of a ruler. That’s £7.50 an inch, and he looks cross eyed to me.
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Frankie the hand slapper made a great deflection or diversion tactic by focusing on banning TLM. Its a smoke screen for other Vatican problems cos there are other rites that weren’t banned, which had me wondering.
That is masking other problem that is currently brewing.
It was brave of that priest to speak out, is he alive ?
Yes it’s trait of any mob as regards to secrecy , money laundering, corruption, no women, omerta and revenge, all forms of abuses,no checks and balance nor any accountability, (did you ever see a woman in any of the movies on the mob?-none i see).
RCC is a mob as per definition of a any mob: a criminal sect
https://eu.sctimes.com/story/opinion/2019/01/18/catholic-churchs-practices-have-hints-organized-crime-fbi-st-cloud-diocese-bankruptcy/2608584002/
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Actually the old mass (in fact not the 1570 missal at all, only the 1962 one) has been banned because its use was only allowed for a limited time with the intention of trying to get the SSPX back inside the fold. Now that that has been unsuccessful the experiment has been stopped.
That this obvious purpose of the exercise wasn’t communicated is just normal church deceit although a heavy hint that it shouldn’t be considered usual was in Pope Nazinger’s coining of the phrase ‘extraordinary’ for it.
You have to laugh at the so-called ‘trads’ raging at Francis when it was Adolf that pulled the wool over their eyes.
Incidentally the choice of the 1962 missal (which had already started to undergo changes, including the complete revision of Holy Week) was significant because that was the missal Archbishop Lefebvre allowed for the SSPX, and his intention was to put off the absolutely fanatical sedevacantist types by picking an edition of the missal which isn’t actually the trad one they make it out to be.
He also went for quite simple ceremony to put off the lace queens: I don’t think you will find a picture of him wearing the cappa magna for example.
The other reason that the business of the missal isn’t a smoke screen is that regulating the liturgy is normal business for the Holy See: as usual the crisis is in the heads of the trads, not anyone else, just as it is with Cor Orans. Why would the pope want to stamp out the religious life of the church? These people are deluded.
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Anon at 2.04pm
Did Lefebvre ordain 4 bishops I think back in 1977 or 78?
LOLOL no cappa magna.
Did u ever hear jesus wearing cappa magna in his 33 years?
Its feminine I think and also a huge demonstration of power like a king, NOT like jesus on a donkey on palm Sunday but mother Burke insists wearing it. That is not humility, all I could say was ‘stuff him’ without swearing it.
But I find some value in TLM mass cos went there and experienced it as well. My preference is low mass. But I don’t go there anymore due to TC crackdown.
Tell me where in the bible, does it say that I must attend Mass?
It was interesting re Mel Gibson father as sedevactanist , does it affect his son Mel?
The priest I met way some 20 years ago in Rome, was the same priest who said TLM masses for Mel Gibson and Catholic crew of the film ‘passion of christ’. His family came from the French Royal lineage. He spoke 4 or 5 languages as he worked in the Vatican.
He told me a little story about ppvi and himself. He knew all popes going back to pius vii.
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@ 2:04pm
Not as deluded as you. There are many pictures of His Grace wearing the Cappa Magna.
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Deaf Guy,
Had your only experience of ‘Christianity’ been the more rarified strata of the Latin and lace brigade you would be excused for thinking that Jesus went round dragged up like Liberace.
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DG 4.34 the Bible does NOT say you should use frequent “communion”. We ought to put the Bible first and totally nix the cliquey JP II.
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This is an interesting admission because they did the same thing to the trad. English mass facing the people, which we had in my then district (and I think Ireland and America didn’t). I disagree with your conclusion because it was obvious the cliques that pull popes’s strings want to quash our spiritual life.
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Exactly Deaf Guy, we still don’t know the half of it. A dangerous shower they are.
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The Diocese of East Anglia has teamed up with the Free Will Network to offer 20 parishioners the chance to have a will written for free.
Last month’s newspaper announced that the Diocese has joined Your Catholic Legacy and the Free Wills Network to shine a spotlight legacy giving, an area of giving we often ignore.
While people are naturally older when they die, people of all ages can and do make charitable wills. By the age of 40, most people will have experienced a life change that puts them in a position to contemplate making a will and therefore a charitable gift.
The National Free Wills Network is a scheme which allows parishioners to
have a simple will written free of charge. There is also the facility for couples to have mirror wills too. It’s a really easy-to-use service which has resulted in thousands of wills being written over the years, benefitting a huge range of charities. Any number of charities can be listed in a will.
To launch this new service and to encourage parishioners to take advantage of this new arrangement, the Diocese is offering 20 free wills to the first parishioners who come forward before the end of May. Those parishioners who decide to use this service will have the opportunity to have their wills written/updated free of charge.
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The Cute Hoors in collars don’t miss a god damn trick.
From cradle to grave they are on the make
No wonder they can afford energy guzzling hot tubs for their priests and undertakers to share whilst the victim of domestic abuse is forced to serve nuts, nibbles & beverages.
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Never leave the church a share of your residuary estate. As residuary beneficiaries, they get a say in the administration of the estate. My dad left 25% of his estate to the parish. The diocese took the money free of Inheritance Tax and decided to appoint expensive solicitors. I wanted my dad’s old Rover car, which he had promised me, but they said they had to get the best possible price for it as they were a charity. They paid £300 for a professional valuation and then told me it was worth £4,500, and I had to take less of my 75% if I wanted it. They are sharks. If you are mad enough to leave them anything in a will, then leave a cash gift of no more than a few hundred, so they can’t have a say in how your estate is administered.
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These free wills schemes are used by lawyers as loss leaders to sell you lasting powers of attorneys and trusts and to eventually get the probate. Don’t go near them.
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Pat, thank you for continuing to highlight the despicable state of the Roman Catholic church and, it’s clergy, many of us are jaded, some have even become complacent, because of the ongoing sexual abuses and, other deceptions that is continued by Roman Catholic clerics worldwide.
Just recently Father Hans Zollner an expert in the field of child sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic clergy, stated he knows the papal proprio, Lux Estis Mundi is not working, he has resigned from the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, his own statement, “a blistering denunciation of the commission’s failures in
“responsibility,
compliance,
accountability
and transparency,”
all of which “have made it impossible for me to continue further.”
What does that tell us? Could it be more damning?
Roman Catholic Cardinal Sean O’Malley even went so far as to lie about the reason Zollner reigned. Guess what? O’Malley was a Holy Ghost/Spiritan priest in Nigeria. Well, well well what’da know, a fine training no doubt was gained there, I wonder how many Irish Spiritan Roman Catholic priest he encountered there, who were banished from Ireland, because of their sexually abusive proclivities?
How are they to be trusted?
I have some sympathy for those who try their best, and being tarred with the same brush, however there is complicity by the fact they remain and, stay silent.
Only last week U’K Home Secretary Suella Braverman has said “people working with children will be under a legal duty to report “signs or suspicions of sexual abuse” It still has to be clarified how this will affect the Roman Catholic church.
It was edifying to hear Kevin Lee talk about what he heard in Confessions, is it a wonder the Roman Catholic church does now want to break the seal of Confession, too many of their own would have to be reported to police, as being a danger to be around children.
I bet the seal of Confession is broken frequently, as for example in the case with the Roman Catholic monk, Mark Kirby, who the hell monitors if it is broken or not? Nobody!
To put the institution of the Roman Catholic church above Roman Catholic children is unforgivable in my opinion.
The immense damage emotional inflicted to child or, minor,sexual abused and, lets not forget spiritually damage, due to child and minors sexual violated, one would think safeguarding that would take priority above all else, but which is not even considered it would appear.
MARCH 30, 2023BY ERIN ODONNELL
Fr. Hans Zollner Resigns from Papal Commission, Survivors Respond
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QP at 2.02pm
Hans Zollner , he has it long time coming cos he wasnt fit to tie the laces of commission of the minors.
Coming from a perspective of an abused, its laughable cos he hadn’t a clue where to start, in other words, he had no experience in dealing with the abusers and the abused people as well.
It is like throwing a newbie into a very deep dive at the abyss end which he knew nothing about it.
Plus couple of resignations such as Marie collins.
If the vatican are really serious about it and want it to sort it out, it would be advisement to put an abused person in chairperson for the commission of the minors cos of their experience, nous and his or her knowledge dealing with rcc etc.
No wonder the Vatican including all the curia has become a laughing stock. Nobody isnt going to take them seriously given all the errors and faux pas that they made over the years.
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2.02pm. You are wrong about Cardinal O’ Malley. He is a member of the Capuchin Franciscan order and never served in Africa
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You heard it first here: Father Paul Connell, a priest of the Diocese of Meath, has been appointed as the new Bishop of Ardagh and Clonmacnois.
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“On May 14, … Deenihan of Meath in Ireland, visited us accompanied by his to vicars general and his chancellor. He explained the situation of the Benedictine Priory of Silverstream…”
Fr. Declan Hurley, Fr. Joe Gallagher and Fr. Paul Connell have supported Fr. Tom Deenihan’s persecution of Dom Benedict Andersen, the true Prior of Silverstream.
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Connell is very very conservative. He was a terrible principal because he was so conservative.
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Paul Connell is a pompous ass. Pontificates with a glass of red wine when he has an audience. A desperate choice.
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@ 4:04pm
It could have been a lot worse he could have been very very liberal that would indeed be terrible.
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Pat I was naive like most others. I suppose it was the day and age that was in it. Thankfully I never witnessed or have i been victim of sexual misconduct. Structure is important to faith and religion. Sadly when structure takes over, God is shelved and the rot sets in. It was only when I started working in a supportive multi faith environment I came to know Jesus as a person and not a product. For me Jesus is first Denominations are second and should be seen as informed systems of religious expression. Easter greetings and blessings to all
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Any blog readers coming to the Chrism Mass in Armagh Cathedral tonight? Should be a wonderful way to revive your faith if it has faded a little since you started reading this blog. See you there.
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Correction to my post of 5.34pm
It should read as why did Lefebvre ordain 4 bishops? 🤷♀️🙈.
I believe its indirectly related to pat buckley ordained as a Bishop. One of bishop ordained someone who then ordained pat correct?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Lefebvre
See under Ecône consecrations.
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Anon at 5.27pm
Thanks for the link.
Did he lefebvre ever give his real reasons for ordaining bishops? No body knows for sure as to why did he proceed with bishopric ordination?
I know he was in Africa for many years, its probably likely that he had seen the effects of rcc abuses in Africa. Was that the real reason that he went ahead with Bishop ordinations?
Had a little chat with ex curia priest for many years as he came from French royal family. He told me some details that he disagreed with Vatican /Pope as he asked Pope for permission to leave. It was granted. He was a mystic priest which I hadn’t seen it before until after I left Rome. There was something about him that I couldn’t figure it out with 1920 shoes and eccentric as well. But I saw something during his mass as I wondered what was that. It was only after few years I began to think he was a mystic, hidden.
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DG Bishops are Consecrated not Ordained. Archbishop Lafebvre explaned his reason for the Consecrations, he knew he was being strung along by those satanists in the Vatican. They were forever promising to give one name but kept putting it off hoping that he would die. He could not leave his Fraternity without a Bishop
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8.31
D.G. is actually correct. Roman Catholic bishops are ordained. It’s the third level of the sacrament of orders. Consecrated is the name for the abrogated rite. Before correcting someone, do your research.
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12:46 Have you seriously managed to miss that Archbishop Lefebvre, of all people, used the abrogated rite? 😂
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Pat, read the article in today’s Irish indepedent by Sarah McDonald re: new Bishop for Ardagh and Clonmacnoise. Good insightful article. He seems a very capable man with great experience and knowledge and pastoral skills. God bless him.
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I’m sure God will UTTERLY test him, and find him gravely wanting.😆
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