MY REPLY:
10th April 2023
Mrs Orme-Paul
Hill Dickinson
Dear Mrs Orme – Paul,
MR JOHN PAUL LYTTLE
AKA JOHN PAUL “POWER BOTTOM” LYTTLE
My immediate reaction when first reading your letter was to think that it was an April Fool prank.
I have been receiving reports about your client for twenty years now. Among the clergy of these islands, he is regarded as one of the most promiscuous homosexual seminarian / priest predators in captivity.
I regard him as a very serious danger to men / vulnerable men in the 18 to 40 age group.
He has proven this by his activities in at least three seminaries and in the short number of years he has been ordained.
One of his most recent victims was a young police officer from Reading whom he invited to the presbytery for dinner when the parish priest was away overnight and having plied the young officer with wine attempted to sexually seduce him.
Your client’s parish priest in Reading regularly complained that instead of being in the confessional on Saturdays, you client spent the days in Reading pubs.
Some years ago, when your client returned, inebriated, from a gay bar with three other young men, he fell out of an upper storey window.
A more recent victim was a young heterosexual barman who, using a credit card, shared drugs with your client.
You client is so dangerous to young men that it an enormous matter of public interest and as the author of a widely read Catholic blog (2.6 million views in 2022) it is my moral and journalistic duty to warn the public, especially the Catholic public, of this great danger.
In fact, the two victims mentioned above approached me precisely because they had read my blog and had experienced your client in most negative circumstances.
I must defer to you in legal matters, but I’m afraid your understanding of my journalism is greatly deficient.
For eleven years I worked for the newspaper with the largest circulation in the UK – The News of the World – as a columnist, story seeker and journalist.
Previously, I worked as a journalist with the Sunday News of Belfast and the Big Issues of Dublin.
I have authored three books, written countless articles, and contributed hundreds of hours to radio and TV outlets.
A brief look at my YouTube channel will inform you.
As a longstanding journalist it is my civic and ethical duty to inform the public about your client and the danger he represents. This is a major matter I would stress with the ICO in the event of any complaint being lodged.
I am very perplexed that someone like yourself is involved in helping the Roman Catholic Church to continue to cover up scandal and wrongdoing. However, you are a lawyer.
I doubt very much if you are representing John Paul Lyttle pro bono. And John Paul himself does not have the kind of money you charge. So, obviously, he is being sponsored by either the Roman Catholic Church or a wealthy friend.
I’m saddened to think that some organisation or individual is willing to attempt to purchase your client a hiding place away from public accountability for his actions – and to leave him free to continue to live as a danger to vulnerable men.
HOWEVER….
if your client has recently had a “Dismas” or Road to Damascus conversion and seeks to change his life or embark on a new journey of some kind, I would not be unsympathetic to assisting him by removing some material that might prevent him doing so. But I would need to be reassured that this was the case.
After all, despite your ignorant salutation, I am a Christian. a priest and a bishop, and am wholly convinced that all of us, as sinners, deserve a second chance – once we are truly repentant.
This is something I would do with a good heart and because of my faith – and not because you or your client were threatening me in anyway.
I do not react well to threats and if you want to persist in that manner, I will give you and your client the fight you seek!
So, if your client wishes to proceed in this Christian, pastoral and Prodigal Son fashion, you will find me a most kindly fellow traveller.
It is my policy to publish all solicitors’ letters and my reply to them on my blog – and that will happen in this case too.
However, if your client wants to take the conciliatory route as I outline above, I will not publish such material.
As a priest of 47 years and a bishop of 25 years, I am very aware of the contrast between the external and internal fora.
Over to you….
(Bishop) Pat Buckley
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
221 replies on “JOHN PAUL POWER BOTTOM LYTTLE’S SOLICITOR’S LETTER.”
Butter in the mouth look if ever.
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It’ll drip down the sides if he’s dragged to the green table.
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Very well connected is John Paul Lyttle.
He must be very good at it to be allowed to remain in ministry given his various antics over the past two decades.
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He’s a very poor communicator
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As usual and as expected, a brilliant riposte, Pat. I doubt whether you’ll hear from ‘Mrs’ Orme again.
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@11.41 pm
Excellent response Bishop Pat.
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The solicitor from Hill Davidson is a bloke – not a Mrs – he only qualified in 2017 so has been on the job long!!!
I can’t recollect any personal information of Fr Lyttle being published and the solicitor doesn’t identify dates of publication.
In fact, his lack of evidence of GDPR breach is palpable and I suspect wasn’t properly briefed about Bishop Pats journalism pedigree and is a little out of his depth or even a lot!!
Evidence dear boy!!
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Solicitors always use the name of junior staff on correspondence so management can blame “deliberate omissions or errors” they’ve instructed them to make on someone disposable who can be moved on with a “good reference” when the smoke clears.
Lawyers and priests, a match made in heaven or hell depending on where you are in the picture.
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Picasso: that expression, “lawyers and priests……heaven and hell.” Beautiful!
My feelings exactly.
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it’s HILL DICKINSON, LIVERPOOL
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Apart from having endured an attempted seduction by Fr John Paul Lyttle – the young victim was further hurt by having his faith undermined.
He wrote to Bishop Egan and told the supreme pastor of his diocese that his Faith had been undermined.
What did Bishop Egan do?
1. He refused to acknowledge the injured party’s letter.
2. He refused to answer him.
3. He handed the matter over to an office worker to reply – Heather Hauschild, Chief Operating Officer of Support and Administration who dismissed the faith aspect and told the victim the matter was over!!!
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I’ll COO for 103K all expenses included. Guys call me……please!
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The young policeman and church going Catholic, who was the target of an attempted sexual seduction by an inebriated Father John Pall Lyttle, has never received an apology from the priest himself, the diocese of Portsmouth or it’s bishop, Egan.
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And he was contemplating the priesthood 😞
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Totally not saying what he did was right, but I would expect a police officer to be well used to getting abuse of all sorts on a daily basis.
And I think if he was considering the priesthood it’s lucky he discovered the reality early.
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11:54 no one should expect to be subjected to abuse of any kind.
I look forward to the day when the death penalty is reintroduced for the murder of a serving police officer except in cases where the accused has been prejudiced and wrongfully framed to protect guilty parties and is in court legally and rightfully acquitted in Court by a Judge in good standing.
If one is framed, then one is entitled to exercise their rights under the constitution of their jurisdiction and is entitled to protect the good name of themselves and their family indefinitely into the future.
Any breach of that right in any form by any person at any time is actionable going forward.
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NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO BE SUBJECTED TO ABUSE, SEXUAL OR OTHERWISWE!
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2:19 Exactly, well said.
Some would do well to look in their own ice cream cabinet.
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When Fr John Paul Lyttle was in the seminary in Belfast and was in his 20s he claimed that Belfast PP James Donaghy (later imprisoned for abuse) tried to seduce him by plying him with alcohol.
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Victim to abuser
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9:19 yes, there are many well documented instances of the victim becoming an abuser in later life.
But the modus operandi of the Roman Catholic Church openly facilitates this ongoing criminality by persistently protecting and covering up for its abusive members.
How many times have we read here and elsewhere about clergy and other personnel being moved around the country or the world, only to repeat their crimes causing more physical and psychological damage to victims and their families.
How many times have school and hospital chaplains been moved onto new schools and hospitals and knowingly facilitated once again to access vulnerable students and hospital patients breaching their physical boundaries and sharing their data from school and hospital records and daily contact etc.
The Roman Catholic Church is a wealthy criminal organisation.
A dangerous organisation.
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Keep publishing -This ” Priest ” is a danger to himself , and others .
He should never have been Ordained in the first place by “Phyliss O please God let me go to Westminster ” Egan , and he should have sent him packing a very long time ago .
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15 years after his alleged Belfast experience with Fr Donaghy, we find Fr John Paul Lyttle trying to do the same thing to the policeman in his 20s.
But Fr Lyttle has been acting out for a long time now – year’s and years.
His difficulties seem to be complicated, as they often are, with an alcohol problem.
There were problems in Belfast.
There were problem in Oscott.
There were problems in Spain.
there are problems in Portsmouth.
on the Portsmouth website he had no appointment and his email address had been removed.
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Fr John Paul Lyttle left Belfast and ended up in Oscott Seminary. He also appears to have time in Wonersh and Allen Hall ?
At this time, he had been accepted by Bishop Crispin Hollis as a seminarian for Portsmouth.
In Oscott, he ended up in the bed of the seminary rector.
Hollis dismissed him from Oscott. The seminary rector was “reassigned”.
He spent some time with the Capuchins in Donegal and Africa and with another religious order.
He reappeared in London in the home of Fr Ray Lyons, who had been suspended and reinstated and was acting as a school chaplain.
One evening, he came home with some young men from a gay bar. They were drinking on the upper floor of the house, and JPL fell from the window and suffered life-threatening head injuries.
The three young men in his company were not charged with any crime.
JPL remained seriously ill in the hospital, and it was feared he would not survive.
As it happened, he had a miraculous or semi miraculous recovery, surprising all the medics.
He next appeared as a volunteer minister to the marginalised on the Portsmouth diocesan website and wearing a clerical collar.
Then, out of the blue, Bishop Egan ordained him hurriedly and on a week day.
We next see him turning up in a Reading Parish where he was assistant priest and hospital chaplain.
It was in Reading that he invited a young policeman to the parochial house for dinner. The PP was away for the night. He plied the young man with alcohol and tried to seduce him. He had told the young man that he watched gay porn, was always horny and masturbated a lot.
The young man fled the house and reported the incident to the police and Bishop Egan.
The young man remains completely dissatisfied with Egan and the diocesan safeguarding.
JPL was on the move again.
He was saying that he was conducting research for Bishop Egan.
Eventually, Egan arranges for him to live in a church house in Fareham. Portsmouth in the parish controlled by Canon John Cooke.
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There are two soul destroying aspects to abuse of any kind.
1. There is the abuse itself.
2. There is the cover up of abuse by bad authorities.
We have seen this millions of times in the RCC – priests abusing people – and bishops covering up for the abusers.
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One bad priest or seminarian can hurt numerous people for 50 plus years 😪
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EMAIL TO BISHOP PHILIP EGAN, PORTSMOUTH.
Dear Philip,
Today, I received another complaint from a young man about the sexual behaviour of your priest, JOHN PAUL LYTTLE.
This young man went to the presbytery in Fareham, where you have placed John Paul.
He was given alcohol and cocaine in a room with a crucifix on the wall.
Later, John Paul attempted to sexually seduce him.
The young man, a heterosexual with a long-term girlfriend, refused the sexual advances and immediately left the presbytery.
He was very shocked and shaken and told John. Paul so by telephone.
As bishop, why are you tolerating these situations by which John Paul Lyttle is using church property to perpetrate the crimes of attempted sexual assault?
Surely this makes you an accomplice before, during, and after the act?
You are supplying him with the premises and an income with which to carry out these acts.
Surely this leaves you and the diocese open to litigation by his victims?
John Paul is drinking daily in pubs from 1.30 pm in the afternoon to late at night.
He is also taking Class A drugs like cocaine.
If he is an alcohol or drug addict he obviously needs a serious and immediate intervention and rehabilitation and treatment.
As his “Father in Christ,” this too is your urgent duty.
If these matters continue, it will lead to a tragedy or a fatality either for John Paul or someone in his company.
Can I beg you to act most swiftly on this matter and help John Paul and protect future victims.
+ Pat Buckley
The Oratory
BT401RQ
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12.34
A-ha! The letter from JP Lyttle’s solicitor can suggest that Pat’s warning about potential harm to Lyttle arose from Pat’s blogging about him rather than from Lyttle’s own self-harming behaviours. Your post makes clear that it was the latter, not the former.
I suspect that Lyttle has not been entirely forthcoming with his ‘brief’, who will not be a happy chappy when he finds out.
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This ICO stuff cuts bith way. Pat, stick in a subject access request to the firm of solicitors and to the diocese of Portsmouth asking for all data held by them about you, as that might get to the bottom (ahem) of who engaged the solicitor, who is paying them and what Portsmouth diocese is saying about you.
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It wouldn’t because he would get the information about himself. The information you talk about is about Lyttle and there’s no entitlement to that.
Incidentally if you’re the person who keeps commenting here about data protection in an Irish diocese I can see why you didn’t get what you wanted.
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Say what, 9.26? The previous poster referred to a request for info about Pat, not about Lyttle.
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9:26 plenty catlicks employed in government departments in the UK and sure everyone knows everyone in Ireland is related to each other so it must be even more incesteous in a small country like Ireland. It must be impossible to get justice over there.
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Why is a solicitors form in Liverpool involved? Are there none in Portsmouth or is Liverpool where the donor (if there is one) is based?
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12:39
Trying to keep the s*** off their own doorstep in Sunny Portsmouth by the Sea.
Also costs lower in Liverpool.
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They are lawyers to the diocesan insurers.
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Both the Catholic and Anglican insurers.
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No doubt Bishop Egan is covering Fr John Paul Lyttle’s legal bill and with zero regard for the impact of JPL’s behaviours on the various persons that he has targeted to date including a young policeman.
Just the RCC extension of its abusive mechanisms. They spend fortunes protecting deviant clerics and intentionally destroy their victims.
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One-third of Roman Catholics in the U.S. consider themselves “ex
Catholics”. (*Pew 2015) Disaffection with mainline Christian faiths
and Evangelicals is also recorded
Reasons for disillusion among all Christians may share elements in
common, but RC interests need to take a look at the beam in its eye.
2
One major reason for this Catholic Situation concerns sex and the
false, unbelievable teaching about human sexuality that church
authority insists is official.
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Bishops & their cohorts are a bunch of hardcore cover up merchants.
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Why so?
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How did JPL get himself ordained?
How did Sean Jones?
How did Michael Byrne?
How did a host of similar others?
Lucifer could get himself ordained in this church, because it will take anyone.
Anyone but Christ himself. I do not jest.😕
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Excellent comment.
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Pat, Bishop Egan of P’mouth has overturned all the good that his predecessor, Bishop Crispian Hollis, did. Egan is a naive man.
He’s ruined Portsmouth diocese, turned many cradle Catholics away from his weird “intentional discipleship” bull crap. He deserves all the shite he gets. Leave him to the dustbin of Catholicism.
Along with all these right wing gay priests. Like that old queen in Portsmouth cathedral where I sadly go to Mass. I don’t mind when the Nigerian priest comes out.
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Tell us you don’t like converts. You cathbots really are all shits aren’t you.
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9:17 We Cathbots as you rudely call us only LIKE people who pay to make all things possible in our church.
Get over yourself!
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Google Maps/streets is the Data Controller for Google Maps/streets.
I thought all roads and streets were in the public domain? Unless a private. road.
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“ Principal one set out under the UK GDPR”. A law firm that charges so must really should be able to spell “Principle”. I’m guessing the letter was written by an underpaid trainee. The letter amounts to a piece of illiterate rubbish that has very little basis in law. Shocking that law firms allow their names to such trash.
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4:16 Agreed, it’s a cheap shot in the dark sanctioned by the Bishop of Portsmouth.
Fr John Paul Lyttle did not pay for this letter himself but they will be smart enough to make it look as if they did.
Just like Silverstream Priory and Waterford & Lismore, cash is king and nothing can be proven.
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@10.43 am his charge-out rate is £360 an hour plus VAT. He would have met with his client, trawled through Bishop Pat’s blog, drafted the letter, and sought his client’s approval before sending it. That’s at least 5 hours of work, if not more, so around £1800 plus VAT (£2,160). Most people don’t earn that sort of money in a month.
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A solicitor’s letter does not cost THAT much. Lyttle could easily have paid for it himself. No need for diocesan financial help.
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When it’s a corporate paying the bill – such as the diocesan insurers, it’s amazing what you can get away with regarding quality and costs.
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The solicitor wants to silence Pat. Others want Pat to silence me. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
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None of us want to silence you. You are just complaining to the wrong people i.e. us. You need to complain directly to Bishop Tom Deenihan.
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Forget about the monkeys & write to the organ grinder in the Vatican
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Seamus, complain to Safeguarding personnel in the diocese.
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10:48, Fr Tom Deenihan has lost the respect of episcopal office through what he has done and through what he is failing to do. Fr Paul Connell will not have the respect of episcopal office because of what he has done and because of what he is failing to do.
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Include letter from Dom Benedict Andersen in all communications.
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TRUTH sets us free, Seamus, even if the truth is revolting. Seamus, the truth is revolting.
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1:45 A combination of all three. Simples.
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Justice for All Gods Children.
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Presumably, if there is any merit in the solicitor’s letter, as seven days notice has been given, this will allow your 2.3 million followers plenty of time to copy and paste to each of their own files (and to forward to others) all the references to this priest……meaning that the solicitors will have to contact all 2.3 million with the same request!
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John P. Lyttle has just got himself even more attention on the blog.
Will these people never learn? Trying to intimidate Pat Buckley is a waste of time, and, as you can see from today’s blog, counterproductive.
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Dear Bishop Pat, the writer of the letter is Joe Orme. Legal Director is a new title invented by UK solicitors in provincial firms who are not yet partner material. https://www.hilldickinson.com/people/joe-orme
Hill Dickinson is not inexpensive when it comes to law firms. They represent many RC dioceses, and it would be interesting to find out who is paying their bill. I am also slightly concerned about a potential conflict of interest and you should seek guidance from the Law Society of England and Wales and the Charity Commission. If serious allegations are made against an employee of a charity is it appropriate for their lawyers and charitable funds to be used in defending them? Surely the correct course of action would be to encourage the accused to seek independent legal advice and fund their own litigation.
The hourly rate for Legal Directors in their Liverpool office is on their website – as you can see they are expensive. Legal director £345 to £360.
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Silly made-up titles. A five-year qualified solicitor is still a junior!
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Which just shows how ridiculous the legal profession is. Five years after qualifying as a doctor you’d be looking at being a consultant in the next couple of years.
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more solicitors than doctors are struck off.
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By the way the portly solicitor is only five years qualified and yet has such a high charge-out rate.
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He has lots of experience of representing Catholic dioceses and also independent faith schools that have had adverse Ofsted reports. I wonder if that refers to Ampleforth?
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What parent would send their child to a school that has been riddled with abuse, had its admissions halted by the Secretary of State for Education, has had numerous adverse inspection reports, was sharply criticised by IICSA, has had to put up a fence to keep the monks out and has solicitors, social services, the police and the charity commission breathing down its neck? Again, I ask, what sort of parent puts their child in such an establishment? Is the answer, depressingly, rich Catholics who are in denial or, even worse, are former pupils who still send their children there, despite knowing what it’s like, because it gets the children away from the house, polishes their accent and gives them the connections and confidence needed to being rich themselves in the future.
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Blind RC parents
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Ampleforth College has announced a new safeguarding charter.
The Charter builds on the progress made at the College to create an environment where those young people entrusted to its care can flourish and is part of an on-going programme of work.
Ampleforth College and St Martin’s Ampleforth have been developing the programme since early 2018 with Emma Moody of Womble Bond Dickinson solicitors, a specialist in charity law, education and safeguarding.
https://www.ampleforthcollege.org.uk/college/news/ampleforth-college-announces-new-safeguarding-charter
Ampleforth aren’t even trusted to choose their own solicitors:
Watchdog appoints solicitor at Ampleforth College charities amid concerns about ‘safeguarding’ of students
A solicitor has been appointed to oversee charities running Ampleforth College and its prep school, amid concerns about the management of “current safeguarding risks” to pupils.
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/watchdog-appoints-solicitor-ampleforth-college-charities-amid-concerns-about-safeguarding-students-308453
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Pat, what size are your balls lol? That response is unbelievably amazing, well done! They will regret taking you on, so proud of you
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Don’t mess with the best.
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“Dear Mrs Orme-Paul”… his name is Joseph… 😂
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So JPL is denying all the allegations? If they had anything on you they would go straight to the ICO, but they do not. Scaremongering does not work with Bishop Buckley, now sling your hook
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I would normally say John has shot himself in the foot, looks like he has well and truly shot himself in the head with this mistake
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If their Trustpilot or Glassdoor reviews are anything to go by, I wouldn’t be too worried about this bunch of ambulance chasers. It’s interesting to note that he didn’t engage an Irish law firm.
If he wants a game of legal tennis, then it’s already 0-15. Keep it up Pat.
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So it’s clear the little old ladies in the pew are funding the Power Bottom’s legal costs. They pay for diocesan insurance which appears to be funding the defence of JPs’ expensive lawyers.
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They’re going to escalate matters to the paper tiger that is the ICO. You must be quaking in your boots. Their Trustpilot reviews are atrocious. They are a seriously incompetent bunch of numb nuts.
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It’s absolutely ridiculous that this degenerate has not been dismissed from the priesthood long ago as these allegations against him have been proved by his own actions. Why on earth his Bishop has taken no action against him is scandalous. The fact that he thinks sending a lawyers letter to Patsy would help him shows he doesn’t read the blog very well. Betty Turpin tried it and ended up regretting it, as Patsy wiped the floor with him and only made him look a bigger fool.
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Why have you addressed the solicitor as Mrs when he is a man?
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9:18. The writer has not clearly identified a specific gender in letter from Hill Dickinson to Bishop Pat.
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Or how they identify.
I identify as a bishop.
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Well, PB JPL, + Egan, his supporters and his lawyers, have just upped the ante ! The next step is for them to take you to court, + Pat, and we all know that if they do that everything that they mention in the lawyer’s letter will come out in court and will be shown to be true. JPL will be well and truly scuppered then ! So, my advice to JPL is to wind in his nexk and shut up. Disappear, if that is what you want to do. Stop using the title Father, which you have long since given up the right to. Then this blog will go quiet, Or, as + Pat suggests, if you want to have a Dismas moment and truly repent and live the life expected of a priest, then do that and this blog will go quiet as well. However, if you think that you can carry on as before and keep fooling us, with the facilitation and help of your bishop + Egan, then you need to think again. I doubt if + Pat will back off after this threat. So, if you want to pursue him and this blog, you had better be willing to stand up in court and have publicly related under oath your (allegedly) predatory sexual behaviour, your (allegedly) drug and alcohol misuse / addiction, and much, much more that will come out when you and others are required to give evidence under oath. Your preciousness about your address, abode, and ordination pictures is just a sham. I doubt if you have stayed in one place too long, usually moved on by your behaviour. So, your personal safety and privacy in those matters is not in danger. And, neither is the safeguarding of those young people whom we might see in passing photographs – that is just a handy, contemporary, threat that you are using to your own advantage. So, the choice is simple: get lost, disappear, leave the priesthood, stop taking us for fools; or take seriously your priesthood, behave and live your life as you professed at your ordination. Then, your name will not appear in this blog any more. . But, please, do not threaten + Pat, this blog, or us. It will inevitably lead to the full truth being revealed in the arena of a court and on oath and that will not be good for you in any way. There is lots, lots more that could be and would be said. The choice is yours.
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Isn’t it interesting that this lawyer’s letter focused on data protection rather than slander / libel or even the truth ? They know what is being said on this blog is truth and fact. So, rather than challenging that, they go for a technical data protection route. That’s the best they can do. Which isn’t much.
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And at most would result in ICO forcing Pat to remove a few details….
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Alas, it says everything that not one word is mentioned about libel, ie they do not seem to be contesting the facts.
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9:32. I noticed that as well.
In the final analysis, they do not have a leg to stand on, they never did and they know it hence the deliberate omission of libel.
Don’t underestimate how far they will go to unofficially access “influence”.
The wealth of the RC opens doors firmly shut to everyone else regardless of any lip service from so called authorities. Mafia headed up by Fraudulent Frankie in the Vatican and his international network.
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This complaint against you, Pat, hinges on two things: one, that you are a controller of data; and two, that you have no journalistic exemption from the legal constraints imposed on such controllers.
I can’t answer to the first, but I believe I can the second. You have a long, and indisputable, history of journalism. Moreover, I believe you were (and perhaps still are) a member of the National Union of Journalists.
I doubt whether JP Lyttle’s solicitor is cognisant of this fact(s), in which case, your reply to the solicitor’s letter should cause to recede (and fast) any hope Lyttle might have had of pursuing his complaint against you successfully.
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The only informative thing in the lawyer’s letter is referring to him as Fr Lyttle, confirming that he’s still on the payroll. It’s striking that they make no attempt to deny or rebut the allegations but merely seek to censor them.
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It is a matter of exceptional public interest to ascertain the identity of the benefactor who is paying Hill Dickinson, Solicitors on behalf of Fr John Paul Lyttle.
However, they may be doing this as a “favour” to the Diocese who are clearly completely committed to retaining the services of Fr Lyttle regardless on the threat he presents when under the guise of being a Roman Catholic priest, he invites young men to his presbytery who believe this to be to discuss their interest in joining the priesthood, only to find themselves become the subject of inappropriate sexual advances as in the case of the young policeman who reported the matter to the police and to Bishop Philip Egan.
This matter confirms the stance and modus operandi of Roman Catholic Bishops who proactively provide deviant clerics with all of the practical and financial support that they require to defend themselves in court against their victims.
It should be remembered this is “really” where your money goes when you donate to any Roman Catholic Church entity. To do so is donating to a “protection racket”.
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Brilliant reply, Bishop Pat. Only a journalist could write with such style and ease. You’ll have flummoxed them entirely.
Congratulations too on the line, “However, you are a lawyer.” Made me LOL.
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The Roman Catholic Church and its primarily wealthy benefactors who keep it in business continue to inflict serious emotional and psychological damage on hundreds of thousands of victims worldwide.
It seems Hill Dickinson, Solicitors have potentially and inadvertently opened the floodgates for more complaints against the Roman Catholic Church and its current cohort of deviant clerics and members that it financially accommodates to the detriment of the safety of the general public being private citizens who find themselves the subject of proactive predatory activity by Roman Catholic Church representatives.
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Here’s a really good guide to the journalism exemption. The letter from the solicitor to Pat was a waste of a first class stamp.
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/ico-clarify-journalism-exemption-uk-data-protection
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Bishop Pat – do not deter to the paid henchman on legal matters. Part 2 to Schedule 1 of the DPA 2018 cover the substantial public interest conditions. There is a list of 23 conditions, which include ‘Journalism in connection with unlawful acts or dishonesty or malpractice’ (paragraph 13). It’s hard to see how drug taking and making unwanted sexual advances is not unlawful. Certainly, active homosexuality is a crime in the church, but not under civil law. However, professing to be celibate when one is not is ‘dishonest’.
In Buivids (27 September 2018), the Advocate-General was of the opinion that so-called citizen’s journalism (including bloggers) could be covered by the journalistic exemption in the DPA, the ECJ also ruled that journalistic exemption may apply to non-professional journalists.
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This Fr John Paul Lyttle story has been going on too long now and Bishop Philip Egan should have at least met the victims by now.
Instead, it seems he and or others are financing Fr John Paul Lyttle to engage prestigious and well known expensive firms of solicitors so Fr John Paul Lyttle can carry on regardless as he has been allowed to do for the past 20 years by the Roman Catholic Church whilst it continues to deny compensation and finalisation and causes ongoing financial and psychological damage to victims and their families.
Did you ever write to the Archbishop, if so perhaps he and Bishop Egan funded
Fr Lyttles consultation with Hill Dickinson when they realised that his position is untenable but they have the money and relevant connections to wing this out for another 20 years if necessary as they have done to date.
Money speaks.
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Was the letter from the solicitor written by a teenager ? It shows a shocking lack of flow and punctuation. I’m not even going to go into the spelling error.
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Can anyone tell me who was the rector of Oscott when JPL was a seminarian or what year we are talking about?
Wonder where the Rector was reassigned?
The Liverpool solicitor looks a little up himself and has an imperious face – a man who clearly enjoys his pies.
His letter lacks detail and therefore bite – flexing and posturing- a fishing expedition right back at him will churn up his time and money and go nowhere – a frollick lacking any real substance.
Pity the bill payer what a waste of money.
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10:17 The bill payer at the bottom of the food chain are people like me who were brought up to keep the faith.
No more, what kind of a priest does things like that to a young policeman who was genuinely interested in a vocation and then hires a solicitor when there are all of these multiple incidents connected to him for over 20 years.
Fr Lyttle is not acting alone, his superiors are behind him.
As I say, no more, it’s no better than funding vice or drugs or buying your clothes cheap when you know starving children kept home from school are making them in slave factories.
Bishop Egan and his church can get lost now.
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The sheep are the billpayers. I suspect this has been funded by the diocesan insurers who instruct HIl Dickinson for legal matters. The sheep pay for insurance and the legal bills of their lawyers.
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Baa Baa Baas
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Monsignor Mark Crisp
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The solicitor to Mr PB Little today: ‘This guy sounds he would love this to go to court. Are you sure you haven’t done any of the things he says you did?’
Actually he’s probably given the staff of the firm the best laugh they’ve had in years.
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Don’t understand re solicitor in Liverpool as jp is a priest in Portsmouth diocese.
Who is paying his legal bills, his Bishop of Portsmouth or Bishop of Liverpool or himself 🤷♀️.
Laughed when I read that Pat thought it was April fool prank but letter dated 4th April 🙈
Wow 20 years as I didn’t know that. Mean you heard it first in 2003 as where was he at that time🤔
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The diocesan insurers use Hill Dickinson. It’s in the insurance company’s interest to have all the stuff taken down about the Power Bottom in case people come forward and seek damages. They are just protecting their client and their position should they have to pay out. Of note, though, is the fact that they do not deny any of the “alleged” misconduct. It’s usual to assert that your client firmly denies the allegations.
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Ah, that’s interesting, as the diocesean solicitors are Stone King LLP. They are a quality outfit, and I could not see them involved in this nonsense.
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It’s gone straight onto my Facebook page, plus the comments. So much for not spreading the truth. May the Force be with you.
Remind me not to antagonise, or, fall out with you Pat.
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Our Pat is a lethal weapon with several strings to his bow. Pat will not tolerate BS. He is a man of great integrity who has been a Bishop to shunned sheep of RCC. 👏
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+ Pat, is shepherd to many isolated ostracized shunned RCC sheep.
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10.49am
OMG seriously? Mark Crisp and JPL had a thing going on!!
Mother of Mary that’s very interesting!!
No wonder he got reassigned!!
I thought with that kind of skeleton he’d be perfect bishop material!!
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Yes, I was wondering that ! Was it Mark Crisp who shared his bed with JPL ? He did move on pretty quickly. Always thought there was something strange there. Now in Wolverhampton, I think. However, if that is the case and it is known about, I would have thought that such activity with someone over whom you were supposed to be exercising some authority and was in your care, even if he was an adult at the time, would warrant some action a little more serious that a sideways shuffle ?
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It was a five-fingers shuffle. That’s what I heard, anyway.
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The RCC doesn’t do serious action against erring priests.
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@1113 – you mean mutual masturbaton. But, Father, that’s a sin…. !
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Father what happened to ‘avoid the occasion’…?
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If PB JPL sends a solicitor’s letter for what has been written on this blog, then shouldn’t Rory send one because we’ve been describing his ginger pubes and beard ? Just cause, I would have thought ?! Maybe he’s got more sense than JPL and realises that it just raises the stakes and gets you even more publicity that you say you do not want. PJL has been very badly advised.
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anon at 11.39am
T.H.I.S.
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Pat I love that you addressed your man as Mrs.as he referred to you as Mr. Buckley
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Why is Kevin Connolly trying his upmost to jump to Westminster . All is not well with our Kevin Connolly. Is it deep regret over Heery or John Harney 🤔
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Who is John Harney ?
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As you are answering yourself, you should know.
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11.25
His upmost? What partof him is that?
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How upmost is upmost ?
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Well my child, did they search all of N.Ire to find a firm ironically called “Dickinson”?
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Whoever has advised Rev Lyttle is obviously the same advisor to +EGAN. THEY GIVE BAD ADVICE. Portsmouth hasn’t been mentioned on here for weeks. LYTTLE hasn’t featured for months. Now, they’re all back in the spotlight!
I imagine once every sees that there is no stopping +Pat that even more disturbing truths will be revealed. The floodgates have now been opened!
I have never seen such an amateurish legal instruction in my life.
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So Mgr Crisp, responsible for deciding who should be ordained, thought it was ok to have Ugandan discussions with a seminarian who presumably he thought fit and ready for ordination?
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Who’s ever heard of a weekday evening ordination? This case is GUBU, as Conor Cruise O’Brien would put it. Even a permanent deacon gets done on a Saturday or Sunday.
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12:17
Grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre and unprecedented…..any similar cases?
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If Crisp did have a sticky fumbling with JP Power Bottom in his bed then it must be reported to the University of Birmingham with whom they are affiliated. The University has clear rules “The University prohibits staff from entering into an intimate relationship (as defined at paragraph 17 of this policy), and strongly discourages any close personal relationship (as defined at paragraph 18 of this policy) with a student for whom they have any responsibility”.
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Another failure of safeguarding on +Nurse’s part, then….?
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11.26am
Yes imagine Mark Crisp moved on, not even kicked upstairs for bedding a seminarian.
They sure kept that under wraps makes you wonder why Eddie Clare got mived quickly from Maryvale. Got to be a story, there’s always a story!! Oh and it always bubbles to the surface in the end!!
John Gilbert too – Jeez they drop like flies of Beelzebub in Brum Bum as I like to call it.
Imagine Crisp and Lyttle attending morning prayer after a midnight rumble!!
Hilarious what a mess and Oscott the Gay Capital of Sutton Coldfield.
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Is John Gilbert about the re-emerge ? I hear he was making appearances at the Chrism Mass this year, in plain clothes. Maybe they are getting ready to reinsert him ? Remember, once a priest, always a priest….
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I knew Mark Crisp quite well as he was the vocation director when I entered Oscott. Seemed a very spiritual guy at the time. I saw him many years later near the end of his time as rector. He didn’t seem the same person. It seems he lost his way a bit. Maybe it is what hierarchical power does to one.
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Funny, whenever I’ve commented here before that the main good done by your cult is to keep solicitors in work, you’ve all started howling that I was being unfair.
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Bishop Phylis will have her red face in the chip fryer again, as this will backfire against her. Any reputable law firm would have advised her to drop it and to deal with the real problem – JP Power Bottom, and submit his papers to Rome for a dispensation from the clerical state. I personally would love to see this in court and see Phyliss squirm as the sordid details are revealed on oath.
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The lawyer has a face that only a mother could love. He looks like many of the bears the RCC chose to ordain.
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Nurse slapped mother rather than baby at birth.
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Perhaps JPL is about to make a comeback and the diocese wants all uncomfortable references to him erased before he is Googled by his new parishoners. Otherwise it makes no sense to disturb Pat’s hornets’ nest, the only effect of which has been to breathe new life into reporting a blog star who had faded into obscurity and was only mentioned rarely on the blog.
They’ll never learn that threatening Pat with solicitors is throwing money down the drain and puts the complainant firmly under the spotlight.
To date, if my memory is right, the PP of Mullagh, Betty Turpin and now JPL have gone down this route and it has backfired every time.
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It is no place for a solicitor to deny you the courtesy of your correct title, and your name is Patrick not Pat. Is he going to make a judgment about the validity of Anglican orders next?
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Probably, if he’s a Romanist. They’ll look to anyone except themselves.
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Yes, as this will play out well for Phyliss when victims come out of the woodwork and seek damages, and all she did was try to gag the whistleblower. It looks like she received great legal advice and she learnt nothing from IICSA who criticised bishops for hiding behind insurers and lawyers.
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Anyone with any sense can seem that things are dangerously broken in Portsmouth and the Bishop needs to be reigned in. The Diocese is becoming a very dangerous and sick joke, nationally.
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They have no one to blame but themselves, rotten to the core from the inside out. Any organisation they are connected to catches the stink in due course, birds of a feather flock together and thieves cannot afford to fall out.
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How did power bottom and Conor Stainton-Polland become good friends? He is based in Liverpool, so one is presuming he either recommended the solicitor in question, or is bank rolling his fees, or is he connected to the solicitor in some other way? Last time power bottom was in Belfast he had lunch in St Patricks and, a colleague told me he covered mass for a priest in Dunmurry. Strange connections……..
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Every power bottom needs power top connections
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So power bottom covers for a priest that is well known to be in an open relationship with a lay man? And then dines with a different priest who was kept back a year in seminary because of the rumours about his sexual activities in Maynooth?
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Power bottom gets round more than a member of the travelling community
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Great response Pat, very witty and accurate!
The letter itself is ridiculous. Pat is absolutely a journalist and is in fact doing the public a great service by keeping a close watch and reporting on the ongoing misdeeds of several RCC clergy. The fact that absolutely none of the facts were even tentatively denied or refuted tells you all you need to know. Instead they choose to ignore the fact that Pat is a journalist and attack on a point of data law. Its farcical. If they had a leg to stand on they would already be litigating and not asking politely.
By the way did you know Vernon Coleman from the NOTW? I used to be in stitches reading his agony column. I think he’s gone a bit conspiratorial now though.
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There are some awful jobs in this world. Acting as a lawyer for Catholic dioceses and schools must be one of the worst. Imagine the reaction when you tell people that you have the Catholic Church as a client. It’s like being the lawyer for Jimmy Saville, Rolph Harris and Gary Glitter, all rolled into one.
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Yes, you’d keep that quiet at Law Society dinners—hardly an organisation you would want to align yourself with if your ambitions are anything beyond a high street solicitor.
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It would be more JPL’s line to have amendment of life than going running to solicitors. Why doesn’t he and Rory elope together to Gretna Green and give up playing at being priests?
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Bishop Phyliss
Do you judge this man to be worthy?
Monsignor Rector
After inquiry among the people of Christ, and upon recommendation of those concerned with his training, and a night in my bed, and with permission of the Holy See, I testify that he has been found worthy.
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In the middle of a cost of living crisis, with inflation and energy bills saring, and food bank use soaring, the Catholic church or one of its wealthy donors thinks it’s a priority to pay a firm of solicitors for this. A truly remarkable sense of priorities and what a waste of money.
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It was not a wealthy donors, but the ordinary person in the pew who paid for via diocesan insurers who will coup back the charges in the premium which we pay.
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I don’t think this case has legs but libel certainly wouldn’t and would cost a fortune. We had two KCs advise our client, and they gave him less than a 10% chance of success. advised him to drop it and charged 60k!
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Lol
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It’s reputed that the Glasgow undertaker Desmond Maguire hired a lawyer for £17000 and then got found guilty of assaulting his missus.
Oh to be a lawyer.
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Des only has to bury a couple of bodies to get his cash back.
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As has been observed already, your reply will have given the Hill Dickinson staff a good laugh. Well done! I don’t imagine you’ll be hearing from them again.
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I’ve just tipped off Legal Cheek – they are going to love this story. The more tip offs they get the better https://www.legalcheek.com/tip-off/
Mrs Orme-Paul and the bishop’s riposte will cause many lawyers to spit their morning coffee out.
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@3.09 pm
I know! I’m still laughing.
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There’s a note of desperation in the letter. There’s no explicit denial of the information published on this blog, which would be advisable given that some of it might be criminal (why not have your lawyer deny a criminal offence in correspondence someone publishing that information?).
Attacking Buckley for not being a journalist is even more bizarre, given he wrote for years for the traditional press.
A priest (or, indeed, any active minister of religion) is a public person whose “private” life is, all too often, a matter of public interest. That he is a drunk, a fornicator, a druggie, a hypocrite, or not in good standing would all be matters of public interest, nevermind all of them at once!
I cannot respect a lawyer who doesn’t even bother with collar stays.
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Which is the gayest seminary in the world? The NAC, VEC, Maynooth, Allen Hall or Oscott? My money’s on Oscott.
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Oscott, that’s where they send the dull ones. The NAC is rife but it’s all suppressed under a veil of manliness. The VEC do it posh style, a bit like Brideshead and try to be all tweed and foppish about it. Maynooth is full of odd looking course characters, who have seen the farm animals do the same and imitate it. Alan Hall is full of gay sophisticates that are accustomed to it as they mince down the Kings Road in Chelsea. Oscott however, if full of lardy, dull types, who cackle over lace and birettas and will hump any thing as long as it is male. They are led by VEC gay elites who encourage them in their base ways.
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Absolutely perfect summary, 2.47pm.
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No idea, but NAC and VEC get the good-looking guys, so go figure. On a more serious note, surely Pat, as well as anyone who contributes seriously on this BLOG is already covered by the principle of “Whistle Blowing”? They cannot get you for uncovering illegal practices no matter what your contact says.
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Valladolid, where does it rank?
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The clever boys get a pass from Valladolid. The resr have their gayness validated there, and only proceed if they are as a gay as a goose.
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3:41
Lol
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The flesh pots of Chelsea, Earls Court and central London including Soho have much more gay opportunities. I remember one Sem now ordained for a Midlands diocese disappearing on a Friday to drink and PnP and not be seen until first lecture on a Monday.
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I know that Sam you refer to. He had the open door sex policy and had unprotected sex with anyone.
at all times of day/night.
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Was he a chef?
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Yes he was, a very good chef but not the most hygienic if you get my drift.
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6:09
Oh, no!
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The Sem in question was never a chef. He got shagged all over London but many times within Allen Hall
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2.47pm
Accurate caricature I’d say.
The Beda had a cache of screaming gays – loud gregarious poofs with show off, look at me beards.
Rod Strange gave the ‘strange’ impression that he rather enjoyed indulging their theatrics.
Gunter the Munter always loud and flamboyant at the Beda.
I agree to about VEC homosexuality- a superior gay here and that’s just the staff.
Oscott lots of fat gays and prissy little mummy boys – Jan and Craig spring to mind, if I’m not mistaken went to bed with their Teddy Bears, not a euphemism, literally had Teddy Bears, so butch and manly are they.
Oscott is a laughing stock but everyone knows Nursie has his Dominic so hardly leading from the front!!
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Isn’t Jan Novotnik now doing something for the Bishop’s Conference / Ecumenism, so is probably living in London and having a fair old time. Craig, presumably Szmidt, is the vocations man in Brum. Very much flavour of the month. To be seen in Nursey’s company often. Maybe Ge’s being fitted up to take over from Dominic ? Oh, how he’s love it ! Getting a bit stocky, but only a short guy, so no doubt the weight will pile on over the years. Why do all these guys have Germany / Poland / Czech names ? Anyhow, you can take your pick of lots of newish Brum priests and they are prissy gays. What’s happened to that dark one from Wolverhampton that was making a big name for himself getting arrested. Oh, look at me… ! Oscott, where they have all come from, is a bloody gay cesspit, but very unprepossessing. Definitely third class in the looks department most of them. Ah well, as long as they have pastoral hearts….. That’s all the counts. Because I doubt if most of them would put up with the smell of the sheep….
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Surprised to hear that Rod Strange approved of camp carrying-ons at the Beda. He did, however, advocate a mature, sensible and deeply pastoral approach to gay relationships, which, I think, was one of the factors disallowing him from a bishopric. His contemporary, aka Elsie, was far more canny in resolving these difficult questions – especially when it came to securing a red hat.
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Pat may be 71 this May, but don’t mess with him! He may have another 10 years if we are lucky, and he will not waste a minute of it dealing with arse holes.
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Happy Birthday Pat
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Not till May 2nd – Feast of St Athanasius – Athanasius Contra Mundum
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There’s no end of arse holes floating about the place.
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JP must not have read about Fr Paul Prior’s failed attempt at legal redress from Pat, otherwise he would have thought twice before authorising that letter. Well, a wiser head would have.
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The diocesan insurers probably insisted upon instigating legal action to protect their position. These sorts of stories in the public domain can cause complainants to come forward and seek damages.
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They base their actions on the belief that EVERYONE is afraid of solicitors and solicitors letters.
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As the son of a barrister, you should know that 90% of it is mere puff and seldom works.
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To be fair, tho, this letter looks more professional/substantial than Betty Turpins estate agent. No?
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@3.51 pm
Most true Bishop Pat – most true.
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Everyone loves panties Paul
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3.51pm
I think your right Bishop Pat the legal profession and clergy mistakenly believe a solicitors letter will out the BeJesus up most people and to be fair I can see why but a calm head and a bring it on approach such as yours confounds them.
JOLs solicitor is a boy and when I read it I thought of De Niro in Raging Bull saying, ‘Is that all you got?’
GDPR Jeez lads ya gotta do better than that – the ICO is a toothless wonder – like the Wizard of Oz.
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+ Pat. You must delve deeper into this, as the solicitor may be guilty of misconduct. The SRA code of conduct states at 6.1, “You do not act if there is an own interest conflict or a significant risk of such a conflict”. If Hill Dickinson acts for the insurer (who may be Catholic Insurance Ltd), then is there also acting for the accused, not a conflict of interest? Secondly, this sounds like SLAPP lawsuit. – a strategic lawsuit against public participation. Not designed to end up in court but is intended to intimidate and prevent public scrutiny. The Law Society takes a very dim view of such intimidatory practices by law firms, and you may want to inform them. They have published helpful guidance here https://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/guidance/conduct-disputes/
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Thank you
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You’re welcome. You might want to consult your fellow Blogger Dan Needle who faced SLAPP litigation from Zahawi’s expensive lawyers, and we saw how well that ended up for him!
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I’m sure there was a blog with a picture of JPL and another seminarian regarding Wonersh. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I think it was a couple of years ago.
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It is mere puff ! Well, suitable for JPL then, n’est pas ? I agree with many commentators today that this is just an attempt at intimidation which is toothless. Also, that JPL has been very badly advised in arranging for this letter to be sent. All that has happened is that his name is back in the headlines / blog, and will remain so for many days to come. And, no doubt, other information will be forthcoming about him and his behaviour as a result of this renewed interest. The best advice he could be given is 1. shut up; 2. go get a secular job; 3. lay down any ministry; 4. in the medium to long term petition for laicisation. Actually, at this stage it should be his bishop who is advising him of this. So, why does + Egan seem so keen to keep JPL close ? Interesting question that !
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The more I think about this letter, the odder it seems.
You would send a “letter before action” before starting legal action (the court can penalise you when awarding costs, even if you sue successfully, if you fail to do so), but there’s no legal action (ie in a court) really threatened in the letter. To use a legal phrase, it’s a “mere puff”.
The proposed course of action – the complaint to the ICO – does not require a solicitor. Indeed, the solicitor concerned seems relatively ignorant of the relevant legislation. A straightforward thing to have requested of Bishop Pat would be a subject access request for JPL regarding any/all material Pat might possess about him. It suggests a cack-handed attempt to silence the criticism of JPL, Egan and the RCC in England and Wales on this blog. It also suggests a lack of intention to pursue the matter further.
Why pursue a GDPR complaint?
It makes no comment, obviously, regarding the veracity (or otherwise) of the information Pat has (rightly) made public. A solicitor is forbidden from knowingly misleading a court; Mx Lawyer does not want to be in trouble with the Law Society for protecting a naughty priest who’s been caught out far too often.
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What is a ‘power bottom’?
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Someone who puts a lot of effort into receiving swollen goods.
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Hazard a guess luv
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If Conor Stainton-Polland is involved in the funding of this solicitor then there is a serious breach of conflict of interests. He ought to stay out of women’s work.
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What does Conor do now anyway? Is he still heavily involved in the Stonewall projects?
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Conor needs to stay out of Ireland and take his boyfriend with him
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8.57
There was a pioneering debate in Maynooth University in the academic year 1994-‘95. The motion was that the University ought to sanction the setting up of a student gay and lesbian society.
The main speaker who opposed the motion was someone with a name resembling this one. Perhaps some reader will confirm this. It would indeed be a major irony.
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Is he the rotund red-faced Liverpool canon and former Elvis impersonator?
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No the elvis impersonator is Tim Bartlett
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JPL and PMcC are cut from the same Donaghy clothe. One turned into an abuser and one into a head case.
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Well ask jpl the night he dressed up in drag at Oscott, the guy was a natural. Johanna Bigs made quite the impression, should a clerical career fade to dust, he already has a back up.
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What is wrong with clergy? Pat were you forced to do drag in Clonliffe or were you a willing participant?
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Pat did you do drag? Is this a joke?
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Never did drag
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Pat does Evan from Paisley still receive money from Betty?
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???
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JPL is no fun, he needs to calm down and go with the flow of this blog
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Happy Birthday Pat, I say this in advance as I have days left to live. May God save this blog and your good self, all the best and goodbye.
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Safe journey to heaven my friend x
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🙏 🙏🙏
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I hope to see you on the other side, brother.
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Bishop Buckley I am so proud of you
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This is the Liverpool firm on YouTube?
An overview of Hill Dickinson from our CEO Peter Jackson | Hill Dickinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQGYKWOfV4
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It looks ghastly- solicitors working on the shop floor in pods alongside the support staff. At least I still have my own office.
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I have a feeling that the next few days on this blog are going to be interesting. I bet EGAN and HAUSCHILD are delighted. Well done +Pat! Great work and keep it up!
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