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JOHN PAUL LYTTLE UPDATE.

JOHN PAUL LYTTLE

A very concerned lay person from the Diocese of Portsmouth has been in touch to say that JPL is the tenant / resident of an apartment in Southampton.

They have also said that since Easter JPL has been staying with Fr Les Adams in the parish of Our Lady Immaculate, Westbourne, in the diocese of Portsmouth.

FR LES ADAMS

Our correspondent was not able to say whether or not JPL was celebrating Mass or ministering in Our Lady Immaculate.

Nor do we know if he is associating with the parishioners there.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM SOLICITORS REGULATION AUTHORITY.

PAT SAYS

JP has three options open to him.

1. He continues to live as he has been living and continues to cause strife and scandal.

2. He engages in serious and deep self work and changes – does not cause hurt and scandal and lives as a fully celibate priest.

3. He leaves the priesthood and is absolutely free to live as he wishes – within the civil law, of course.

In the highly unlikely event of him seeking my assistance – and him being 100 % genuine in doing so, I would help all I could and in confidence.

Having said that, I believe Rory Coyle led me a merry dance, and I was fooled for a long time.

But it’s always better to be fooled than to be a cynic.

And, as Judge Judy says:

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

255 replies on “JOHN PAUL LYTTLE UPDATE.”

Priests and their bored housewife type cohorts are obnoxious enough on their own, one shudders to imagine what a priests wife would do to a community. Or perhaps the priest would be more empowered as no longer reliant on scrapings from the bottom of the barrel.

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Maybe the ones addicted to the media could appear on tv dating shows!

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They’d probably marry their secretaries, don’t think many have household cooks these days.

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I’ve had it with the lot of you. I’m a gay active priest. I have human needs which god gave me. Why should I not have the right to use those needs. It’s only natural. I do not sleep around, but I do have a lover. One. We have consensual sex and it’s love. You tell me that’s wrong.

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2:59 Why do you remain in the Roman Catholic Church? Is it the money, the free access to high powered lawyers & other useful connections, the big houses, the expensive cars, the fine dining, the extensive leisure time to play golf, write books, take the piss with your colleagues and friends out of vulnerable parishioners or whatever tickles your fancy on any given day? Or is it simply the comfort of knowing that if you abuse a vulnerable child or adult, you will be protected and covered up for for the rest of your life? Answer, of course it is. You may not admit it but it is and anyone who wants to know it knows it.

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3:40 Well said, that told the self entitled freeloader @ 2:59 who sounds like he was born with a silver spoon in his gob.

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Surgeons who hold the power of life and death over you on the operating table don’t undergo such psychological tests, and I can’t imagine that the job is without very real stresses and anxiety. There is something odd about the whole clerical psychological assessment. They say, surgeons think they are God, it’s priests that think they are.

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@ 2:59 pm
“I’ve had it with the lot of you. I’m a gay active priest. I have human needs which god gave me. Why should I not have the right to use those needs. It’s only natural. I do not sleep around, but I do have a lover. One. We have consensual sex and it’s love. You tell me that’s wrong.” Gay or not, it is wrong if it means breaking a promise you made at ordination. Why stay with it? Are you open about this part of your life with parishioners who support you financially and look to you for integrity and Christian leadership? Does your bishop or superior know? At least Pat Buckley has the integrity to cut his ties and become independent. Meanwhile, you hide behind the veneer. Grow a pair, cut your ties and make it in the real world and not rely on others to support your living.

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You three options for JPL are sensible and so obvious. I suggest that option 3, leaving and being free to live his life as he wishes within the law, is the best option for him. His dysfunction and unsuitability for the priestly life of faithfulness and celibacy, as required by the Church at ordination by a public promise, is so great that I believe he is incapable of living the priestly life. No matter what one thinks about the Church’s regulation of a priest’s life and the requirement for mandatory celibacy, it is what is required. If a priest does not follow that requirement, then it is clear hypocrisy and living a lie. So, if he wants to be a priest he must live that life, but it is clear he is incapably / unsuitable / unwilling to do this. So he must leave and make a new life for himself. It is the only way. So, just do it, JPL !

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We note that The Solicitors Regulation Authority used your correct title in their correspondence, Bishop Pat.

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What does it matter what people call you. All this tomfoolery with women not taking their husbands name that’s if they bother to marry in first place and children with double barrelled names and few go to mass. The new Irish have better manners in these matters and haven’t forgotten the good works done in the foreign missions.

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He is very close to Fr Eugene O’Neill of St Patrick’s and also Fr Rory Sheehan of Queen of Peace, but how, why, does he know these two? Especially with a chequered past.

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10:05. The priesthood and its networks are a very close circle who do not hesitate to infiltrate any possible means of access to victims and their supporters for the purposes of protecting their interests. It’s shocking to experience the speed at which they can blacken ones reputation and life’s work once they set a mind to.

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Fr Frank Duhig, the celebrated Junior and later Senior Dean of Maynooth, used to break up “particular friendships” and he disbanded a snobbish intellectual clique that had been nicknamed “the Tulips” by their less gifted brethren.

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That’s one reason to be kept back a year in seminary, other reasons might be being the oral king of a group

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Only 20 seminarians in Maynooth now. Rome must surely order its closure as that is much too low a figure for a sustainable community.

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Rome does it’s own thing whilst talking out of the side of it’s mouth. Francis and and the Irish Hirearchy arrested Pat in the Vatican State.

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It’ll do for their day, selling off valuable church real estate to fund their luxuries and rent boys.

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1:15 I’m sure if you offer to foot the bill for the maintenance of huge, often listed, buildings they’d be happy to let you. As long as you also gift them with the funds they would have raised by selling them.
Well go on, then, let’s see you make it do for whatever fucked up fantasy day you’ve got in mind. 🤣

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The TV programme, Priest School, about the college was very good too. They were all… well, you know, but they were very nice.

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Don’t think the Irish Bishops even dare to send any more new Seminarians to Maynooth these days.

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I have no brief for the cult but strictly speaking I can’t see a problem with him living in a flat in a parish because every flat in an urban area would be in an RC parish and he has to live somewhere. Your correspondent is saying two different things though – the other being that he’s living with the PP. Is that flat the presbytery?
There can’t really be any objections to him living in a flat as a private citizen (even if on the books and bankrolled by the cult as he should be) since there are apparently no legal or formal restrictions on his movement, surely.

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It’s very sad that JPL is in the abyss he’s in, not quite knowing what to do by way of finding stability and a little contentment in his life. Somewhere deep down in his psyche there must be a lot of unresolved torment and personal issues. It seems to me that he needs to quickly seek very professional advice and counselling to enable him to make wise and necessary decisions. I don’t believe it’s helpful to keep telling him this truth and he’s been subjected to some very nasty vitriol on this blog but JPL’s demeanour is crying out for professional help. I Hope and pray that he’s presently being cared for by his colleagues. He’s entitled to good care.

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11:13 The “good care” the church provides to persons in the position of Fr John Paul Lyttle is ultimately geared to “put the interests of the RC before all else”. If Fr Lyttle has any remote hope of finding peace and contentment in his life, he has to find the courage to completely cut his ties with this hideous cult. Surely he has family and friends who could help him to move on. Now is their time to step up to the plate.

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@ 11:13am
JPL has brought any vitriol about him on his self by his actions. It is very sad that his parishioners have to put up with the ongoing scandals concerning him. If any care is needed it is for them not for JPL who needs to be ousted with immediate effect.

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1:01 Parishioners don’t have to put up with anything. They are free agents. The decent ones have walked away. Take a much much closer look at what’s decided to stay & WHY.

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Pat, how on earth could you expect John Paul to seek help from you? Honestly? JP needs someone outside the Church, priesthood or any religious person to help him look more objectively and truthfully at his life and to help him navigate a way forward out of his dilemmas. He requires very serious professional help. I hope he finds the courage to go this route.

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Is that Fr Sting Ray or Fr Ray of Sunshine? Oh! It’s BOTH.

Rory/Ruairadh wuz ere.

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The JPL saga is bordering on the ridiculous at this stage. The man needs to have the courage to leave priesthood. Pat, if a man is unsuitable for ministry, I doubt if any amount of deep work will make a difference, not that deep self work is of no value. Maybe through serious honest reflective self work he might come to greater self insight. The man seems to be wasting himself and his life running from parish to parish.

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We’ve heard more than enough of yar man lyttle, give us the the latest on that yoke Sheehan of Queen Of Peace. How in God’s Holy Name has he not been dismissed, running about with his much younger boyfriend! in full sight and no shame. High time he was ousted he is the scandal of Christendom.

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+ Pat, you were fooled by Rory. Don’t be fooled by JPL. He has evidently sweet talked Egan and various priests in Portsmouth and Belfast, and no doubt other places. He will bat his eyes, twitch his ass, and be as seductive and persuasive as he can in order to get what he wants. It is right that somebody like you is calling him to account. Tough love, I know, but it is necessary in this case. Egan should be doing this, but he just seems to be all misty eyed about JPL.

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11:32 He isn’t known as “Shake your Lyttle Ass” for no reason. Those who know know. There are very deep reasons why certain clerics get away with literally anything.

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Not a problem. By then their power and money ensures the twinks keep coming. 😉😇

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A lot of the old teaching was wrong , perhaps it was to keep us down , and keep control over girls , it was a crying disgrace to keep girls innocent , from learning the facts of life
They did not know the babe came into the world the way it went in ,again it was controlled by a big organisation , in those homes there was never a check on your health , not one Dr did they see
All is not said and done but the truth always comes ,most of those girls are dead , and very few of the old are left
They are marked of their list for compensation
OMG bless all woman that were locked up let it be months or two years it was a nightmare .

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Look at the proven evidence
Act on the proven evidence
Bishops don’t do this
Victims and support networks must bring relevant comparatives to the attention of the Judge and Jury in proceedings

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Bishops won’t go out of line with Francis.
Actions and inactions speak louder than the false lip service on supporting survivors or taking action on abuse etc.

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I think Patsy to give him his faults (I give him enough stick) is not that daft to be fooled by you 11.33am or anybody else.

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Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to send Moriarty to Weight Watchers.
How much is the Diocese spending on expensive lawyers to block claims from victims and survivors of church related abuse?

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1:36 Overall the various Irish Diocese and institutions have eye watering insurance premiums and legal bills and are on first name terms with the top tiers of these professions in Ireland and beyond given the long term relationships they continue to work on to block out elderly victims still awaiting redress.

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St Luke’s in Washington is also a boot camp for fatties. No booze, no sex, no caffeine and low-fat meals for six months. They give you a lot of cranberry juice. I’m lost two stones there. Soon put it back on my sexual appetite was ravenous once released.

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Fr Leslie Adams does all that he can to contribute to OUR Faithful. You’re such begrudging moaners on this blog.

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Looks as if the Solicitors regulation authority is taking your correspondence very seriously Bishop Pat. Here’s hoping they will do the right thing. Solicitors should not be above the law no more than anyone else but they certainly know what strings to pull or indeed to be pulled by.

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Certain Middle class Catholic families in the North of England certainly know how to get things done. It’s very enlightening to note their connections to some of the outstanding issues.

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+Egan and the people in charge of JPL in Portsmouth should be dealing with him and resolving outstanding issues. Surely, like us, they have come to a view that he is unsuitable for ministry ? Next step then is to help him on his way, with the necessary support, but eventually cutting the apron strings and letting him stand on his own two feet. The way forward is clear. I just wish he / they would get on with it.

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The church doesn’t operate like a “normal” workplace! 🤣. Father! You should try it yourself sometime!!

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@ 1.03pm
I ain’t no father. It just goes to prove how bigoted you are making remarks about people you do not know.

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Most sensible people know one can join the church or the GAA & so benefit from its Mafia like connections. Paddy and Mary were very foolish but brave people depending on your viewpoint.

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Some people are just like a big angry dog with a bone that it point blank refuses to let go of whatever the consequences. We don’t walk in their shoes nor are we entitled to judge how they respond to serious wrong doing. Prayers for all concerned.

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Fr Leslie Adams were in the Seminary group with JPL and myself for the Diocese in 2000. Jpl was ALWAYS known as a ‘pretty Boy’

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So how old is JPL ? If he was in seminary in 2000, then he must be in his very upper 30’s. Not a twink pretty boy anymore. Probably ruined by all the drink over the last couple of decades. Is he still able to twitch his ass, I wonder ?

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Well, he certainly won’t be the only gay in the village and he won’t be the oldest gay in the Roman gay village either.

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Well, if the boy / man hasn’t sorted himself out by now, then he probably never will. He needs to move on. At 40 he could still have a chance to take up a second career.

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Has JPL kept his looks and his figure ? He was attractive when younger, and certainly had the come on hither look to him. If he’s lost that facility then he will need to fall back on more enduring qualities. Which are, in his case… ?

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Many of todays seminarians and young priests are living out a fantasy and not a vocation – alternating between the altar where they are the Perfect Christ and the BDSM room where they are the “pig”. There is something dangerously psychotic about all of this and leads to all kinds of destruction.

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Hey, blame the people who have supposedly trained and formed them ! That kind of culture exists in seminaries amongst the staff. The seminarians notice what is going on. The subliminal message is that it is fine, just keep the two parts of your life separate. And don’t get caught ! That kind of thinking then permeates in to their whole lives which become dysfunction, toxic, unhealthy, lacking integration and with no integrity. What an unhappy way to live out a life. Also, it damages those around them.

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I have been searching for my moms birth parents now for a few years.
During my research I have found many new amazing people that are so willing to help.
Some that stay tight lipped. I completely understand the need for privacy, I understand the need for protection.
However I need people to understand that I am trying to find a piece of my past.
A piece of my genetic history. Please help me in taking these barriers down and let’s open up and show love to the poor children and mothers that suffered at the hands of some truly evil people.
Some who read this may have been victims of this tragedy, so you know what my mom went through, even though she was an innocent child.
Most of the people I am searching for are long dead and I will uphold their legacy and good names. I just need answers, I just need help.

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1:24pm. It is noted that 1:10 has failed to recognise that the ongoing abuse and blocking of justice for those victimised by their cult has rendered them irrelevant! No wonder disused seminaries are being sold off to the highest bidder, only problem is that the relevant enforcement agencies are not seizing the proceeds to compensate victims and instead clergy are allowed to luxuriate in their ill gotten gains. Proceeds of criminal activity.

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12:53 hope you find helpful answers. We will get in touch with Bishop Pat if we find anything that may be of assistance to you and others in your unenviable situation. Shame on these ongoing perpetrators who continue to twist the knife on behalf of their now dead but still despicable colleagues who hopefully are roasting in hell. Best wishes to you in your search.

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Bishop Buckley, I suggest each Wednesday to be designated, ‘Whistle Blowers’ Wednesday, and every second Sunday, ‘Whistle Blowers’ Sundays & of course, all Holy Days of obligation designated, ‘Holy Days’ for all RCC ‘Whistle Blowers’.

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I’m 200lbs, 6’3 & No, I’m not gay so don’t even dare ask. My brother is & I know dead cert he wouldn’t have nothing to do with your lot after the hell he went through in one of your boarding schools. We are working on some information for Bishop Pat that will be published as part of a wider item shortly.

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@ 1:25
You tell me why you consider me to be a silly silly little person?
Com’ on! Why am I such as silly silly little person?
Spit it out !!

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1:25 your delusional output speaks volumes about the consequences your ongoing complicity is having on your personal mental health. You can run but you can’t hide from your demons. There is a way out. The choice is yours and only yours.

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Bishop Buckley, every last Saturday of the month to be designated ‘Silly Whistle Blowers’ Saturday, for those with less puff or blowing capacity due to age constraints.

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Is there any connection between Portsmouth diocese and the late Christopher Stalford, as some people in Southampton have suggested

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Squeaky bum time in Portsmouth about JP and your blog and it doesn’t even involve red faced Egan. Reverse JP for the next scandal.

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Bishop Stika’s “favourite seminarian” & the case of the miracle of the gold ring!says:

Bishop Stika’s ‘miracle’ gold ring
KNOXVILLE (TN)
The Pillar [Washington DC]
April 26, 2023
By JD Flynn
A news report published this month in the diocesan newspaper of the Diocese of Knoxville has become a source of some wonderment — and something of a metaphor — among priests and laity in the Tennessee diocese.
The report opened at a March 19 Mass celebrated by Knoxville’s Bishop Rick Stika, on the occasion of his 14th episcopal anniversary.
During the Mass, Stika reportedly realized that he wasn’t wearing his episcopal ring, and began asking the people to pray. He reportedly thought he might have left it at a gas station, on the way to the parish where he celebrated the Mass.
One parishioner, seated in the front row, spotted the ring under Stika’s chair. The bishop picked it up, held it aloft, and declared a miracle.
While parishioners laughed, Stika seemed sincere.
“It really is a miracle,” he said afterward. “I was ready to go back to the gas station and start looking through their trash cans and on the ground. Who knows where it could have fallen off? I am so grateful.”
Ockham’s Razor would suggest that the ring probably fell off while Stika was celebrating Mass, and probably while he was seated in the chair under which it rolled.
But the bishop’s take — that a miracle had occurred — has seen the story passed around the Diocese of Knoxville, where tensions between Stika and his presbyterate have become acute over the last two years.
To some in the diocese, the story is a testament to what they see as Stika’s semi-charmed kinda life — that whatever difficulty Stika faces, large or small, he seems to escape unscathed.
To others, it reflects Stika’s viewpoint: “He’d rather believe that God moved a hunk of gold from the gas station to the parish than consider the possibility that he just dropped his ring on the floor like a normal person,” one diocesan leader suggested.
Whatever the meaning — if there is any — the story is circulating exactly two years after The Pillar first reported that Stika was facing the prospect of a Vatican investigation over allegations that he significantly mismanaged a sexual abuse case in the diocese.
And some priests in Knoxville say that after a difficult two years, they’re worried the Vatican has dropped their concerns like a discarded gold ring — and that it would take a miracle for anyone to pick them up again.

Bishop Stika is facing a number of allegations, which are familiar to the readers of The Pillar, or readers of the local press in Knoxville, Tennessee.
The bishop has conceded that he accepted into the Knoxville diocese a seminarian who was not endorsed by his diocesan vocations office — a seminarian with an allegedly rocky history in Jesuit formation before he found the diocese.
Diocesan records show that Stika expended considerable funds to support the seminarian during his studies at St. Meinrad’s Seminary in Indiana — well beyond the ordinary stipends provided to other seminarians. And The Pillar has confirmed that the Knoxville seminarian was dismissed from St. Meinrad’s after multiple allegations of sexual misconduct, one of which is described by seminary sources as sexual assault.
After the seminarian was dismissed from academic formation, Stika has admitted that he kept him on as a diocesan seminarian to ensure that the young man — a native of Poland — would not run into visa issues before he enrolled in a college program. And Stika has also admitted that after the dismissal, he took the seminarian on a 10-day road trip with Cardinal Justin Rigali — after he had previously taken the seminarian on trips to Rome and elsewhere.
But most concerning, as pertains to that seminarian, is that Stika has admitted that when the seminarian was accused of raping a parish organist, the bishop removed an experienced investigator appointed by the diocesan review board, replacing him with a friend, who asked a few questions only of the accused seminarian, and then concluded his investigation.
Stika told The Pillar he made that move because he “knew in [his] heart” that the seminarian was “innocent,” and that “somebody has to stand up for people when you think they’re innocent.”
The bishop has also admitted that soon after the alleged rape, Stika gave a significant gift to the parish organist, and took both him and the seminarian out to dinner. And the bishop has insisted he did his own investigation, and told both priests and The Pillar that it was the organist, not the seminarian, who was guilty of sexual assault. But if Stika believes that the organist is actually guilty of sexually assaulting a seminarian, he has not done anything to urge a criminal prosecution, or seemingly to impede any future ecclesiastical employment.
The removal of the investigator, against the judgment of the diocesan review board, is what saw a dozen or so priests make a Vos estis lux mundi report to the Vatican, but it’s not the only criticism Stika faces.
He’s also accused of failing to address another priest accused of sexually assaulting a grieving parishioner, and of bullying a woman who in 2017 reported a priest’s inappropriate conduct with a minor. Priests have also lamented that Stika imposed a 25% tax on money their parish schools received from the federal Paycheck Protection Program, without the proper canonical consultations, in order to pay down debt on a massive cathedral project of his undertaking.
And then there are charges that Stika has been lewd and inappropriate toward priests, harshly punitive and dismissive of them, and lost their trust. It’s for that reason that 11 of them asked in September 2021 that the apostolic nuncio provide their diocese “merciful relief” from Stika’s leadership — a request that has not yet seen a formal response from the nunciature.
But it was concern about the seminarian that prompted Vos estis complaints in 2021, and has led to two separate visitations of the diocese — the first by now-retired Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, and the second, last year, by Bishops Michael Burbidge and Barry Knestout of Virginia.
The Pillar has confirmed that the conveyance of the first report to the Vatican contained a clear and unsparing assessment of Stika’s capacity for leadership. It is not clear what recommendations were made after the second visitation, for which participants were required to sign non-disclosure agreements.
But Stika has endured these two years, and in recent weeks has spoken about his hopes for a promising and long future in the diocese.
While Stika’s brash rhetoric has become for some observers on the national scene a source nearly of amusement — and the bishop has been privately the butt of jokes among some bishops — in Knoxville the priests are not laughing.
Priests say that Stika has become obsessed with sussing out his critics — he believes they are only a small contingent of the diocesan presbyterate — and with arranging for punitive assignments, public humiliation, or outright intimidation. Some priests are reportedly considering early retirement, looking for other dioceses, and at least one priest, the subject of regular criticism from Stika, petitioned this month for an extended leave of absence from the diocese, and left the diocese. His confreres say they fear he will not be back, and that he will not be the last to go.
Of course, Stika claims the criticisms against him come from only a few discontented priests, and are spurred on by “fake news” reporting. In Knoxville, at least one priest in the diocese, vicar general Fr.David Boettner, has taken sideswipes at the local reporter covering the diocese, lamenting that the diocese is covered by “sports writers” who don’t understand how the Church works. But The Pillar has aimed repeatedly to find Knoxville priests willing to speak on Stika’s behalf, even off-record, and none have come forward.
Some priests say they’ve gotten a sympathetic hearing from Louisville’s Archbishop Shelton Fabre — believed to be the catalyst for the second apostolic visitation — but the metropolitan archbishop can offer little more than sympathy; he isn’t actually empowered to intervene with Knoxville, his suffragan see.
Priests and other diocesan leaders say that with no communication from Rome, they’re left to wonder why Stika seems to be wearing a Teflon cassock — none of the criticisms made against him, or even his own admissions, seem to stick.
Priests speculate privately about why the Vatican has not responded swiftly to their complaints.
Some wonder if Stika’s longtime friendship with Cardinal Rigali — the retired cardinal lives in Stika’s house — is offering him a measure of protection. Others speculate that Stika must “have some dirt” on Vatican or American officials.
Some priests wonder if despite their testimony, Vatican officials have decided that Stika simply hasn’t done anything wrong — or enough wrong to warrant either some sanction, or an invitation to resign.
A few in Knoxville have theorized — probably assuming too much strategy on the part of the Vatican — that the Holy See will leave Stika in place until litigation in Knoxville is concluded, so that the bishop can become something of a fall guy, held personally liable for misconduct, and thus cost the diocese less in a settlement.
But others have a more despondent outlook — they’ve concluded, with resignation, that no one in the Vatican cares about their situation enough to address it quickly.
“I’m not sure we’ll be viable as a diocese in a year or two,” one priest told The Pillar. “Rome has failed us.”
It is not clear that the Vatican is without sympathy for the presbyterate and the Catholics of Knoxville. In the Diocese of Crookston, Minnesota, another U.S. Vos estis lux mundi investigation took some 19 months to see a bishop accused of misconduct to resign.
It could be that the Knoxville case is simply taking time to document — or that Stika has put up a fight against the prospect of resignation, slowing down a speedy resolution.
And the Vatican’s Dicastery for Bishops, the department charged with overseeing the investigations into Stika, has been in the last year in a protracted process of leadership change, which concluded this month with Archbishop Robert Prevost taking up the dicastery’s helm.
Prevost, an American Augustinian who most recently served as a bishop in Peru, will now be the person most responsible for shepherding Stika’s case forward — and the archbishop reportedly told at least one Catholic in Knoxville this year that he would give the case his attention once he was firmly in office.
In addition to Prevost, American cardinals on the Dicastery for Bishops — Cardinals Blase Cupich and Joseph Tobin — could be significant voices in deciding how the troubles in Knoxville should be resolved.
After two years of media coverage — mostly from The Pillar and the Knoxville News-Sentinel — Stika’s case has become for many Catholics a kind of referendum on the integrity of the pope’s reform agenda.
For some observers — and some Catholics in Knoxville — there is little doubt that questions about have Stika’s leadership have mostly ground other diocesan projects to a halt.
One diocesan leader in the city said recently that things have become like a kind of “ecclesiastical Twilight Zone.”
Others tell The Pillar that “the wheels have come off this bus.”
The attention means that whatever the Holy See decides about Stika — even if it will be to exonerate him — there will be a cadre of Catholics wanting to know exactly how the decision was made, and what evidence was given consideration.
After Vatican pledges of transparency, episcopal accountability, and significant reform, the Stika case has become something of a litmus test for some Catholics: Either the bishop is guilty of serial misconduct, or the Vatican will need to address the claims to that effect, which come from his own priests.
Of course, that kind of transparency seems unlikely to be the outcome of this case. If Stika leaves office, it will probably be under the guise of a resignation. And if he stays, it’s improbable that any official will offer any commentary on the dysfunction in the diocese.
But no matter the outcome, the case is unlikely to fade into obscurity. And as long as it remains unresolved, it will prompt questions — or cynicism — about the pledges to reform and promises to protect.
In fact, the case is being watched closely by priests in other parts of the country, who wonder how — or whether — concerns about their own bishops would be treated at the Vatican, especially after a Catholic University study last year showed that a high percentage of American priests say they don’t trust their bishops will help them address issues in their lives.
As one Knoxville priest told The Pillar: “Trust is built on mutual accountability. And here the Vatican won’t give us any accountability at all. So then we can’t trust. Well, that means we’re supposed to be obedient to these men we can’t trust, and that just can’t possibly work.”
“It’s like, we’re supposed to obey these men for the sake our salvation, but we can’t trust the Church is going to actually hold them accountable. That leaves us set up for an abusive relationship.”
As Prevost takes up his job, it is worth asking whether the Holy See knows just how keenly lay and clerical Catholics — in Tennessee and further afield — are waiting to see whether the prefect can find the little gold ring that rolled under the chair.
To the priests of Knoxville, that would be a real miracle.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/bishop-stikas-miraculous-gold-ring

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The rubbish about the ring !!! Kiss my ring !!! as many do. Kiss your what? as Benny Hill once said.
Then read what a ‘great’ job he has done over the last fourteen years, no different to hundreds of his ilk.

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– Does Burrell have (present tense) dirt on Rigali, the Tobins, Prevost, or Oklahoma?
– Father Boettner does indeed “understand how the church works”.
– Any fool throws a ring under a chair. No (“roman”) bishop needs a ring anyway.

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Wasn’t his ordination on a weekday evening? I’ve never heard of such a strange time for an ordination, even for a permanent deacon.

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Our priest hosts one Saturday night party every month and ALL the people who attend are men. Coincidence of course, you all have gutter minds.

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If any of the allegations made against this character are true it’s not a sabbatical he should be on but dismissal with immediate effect. That’s the only update we need to hear.

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Did Egan or Lyttle spend a year with the Montfort Missionaries in Southampton. Alarm bells should have been ringing in bishop’s house after his fall. He displayed an immaturity and lack of prudence as a 28 year old seminarian in inviting three strangers he met in a pub back to the presbytery in which he was staying with his extremely close friend Fr Ray Lyons. That was how Fr Ray described himself in newspaper reports after the fall. All very strange.

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I too have heard that +Egan has forked out for a swanky city apartment for John Paul. Lucky him!
JOHNPROMISE is not the Parish Priest no. Not sure why the PP has agreed to LYTTLE being in the Parish?
I thought JPL was from GUERNSEY?

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He was at HAUSCHILD’S sons ordination though, which made a few wonder why. Must be some connection if Adams gifted a chasuble?

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Just in case he never got my message in the previous blog heading;
Deaf Guy contact the PSNI if you have any information on any criminal activity. Keeping silent only makes it worse for the victims. You of all people should know this. You will be complicit.

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Girl claiming to be Deaf;
Have you gone to the PSNI any information on any criminal activity.
If not you are complicit in criminality. If you are a priest which is likely shame on you.

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Deaf girl at 2.57pm
Didnt see your message.
No need to tell me cos I’m not based in NI.
Will not respond to your future messages cos it bordered on nonsensical messages.

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I am afraid it is your messages which are nonsensical. You got a slap on the wrist yesterday on an other blog under the name of FDS.
The quicker you get off to Thailand the better

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They go way back. Fr Leslie Adams was in the Beda doing the short course whilst JPL was on his first OSCOTT stint.

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Will the truth ever come out about the night that JPL fell out the window? What was Ray Lyons doing in the flat at the time?

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I think some things have long been very wrong with the church leaders in the batch of deaneries around Isleworth (adjacent to Arundel). Why didn’t they concede enough to Fr Lyons? Aren’t they rather more in the wrong than he is?

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Is it only Roman Catholics you blog about? What about Lord Mountbatten the pedo or Andrew? Not Catholic I suppose?

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Pat, seriously you couldn’t make this up. For the umpteenth time, clergy are public figures and their ‘problems’ which may affect others should be public.
This is not like he’s having an appendix operation.
If there are any clergy reading this who maintain the fantasy of a private life, clear off right now.
And Pat, you should name the Dominican priest who masturbated a young man and the Redemptorist that is in a relationship with a Diocesan priest in Armagh.

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I think it’s a lovely story they took the the honest route out of their shackles, it looks to me as nil points for the RCC and full points for the Anglican church. Now if priest were allowed to marry, not only would the priest be retained but also his wife as a useful member of the Roman Catholic church. They have both given many years to the RCC church anyway.
The sad part is Anglican vicars who convert to Catholicism, they, their wives and, children are accepted, yet two honest people with an obvious interest in Christianity, and a love for each other, have to jump the fence to be accepted, as a couple, and part of the Christian church. Good for them. I for one, wish them happiness and, peace.

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The Gay Mafia got one in last night wondering if it were a case of mistaken identity in the Boilerhouse. He practically had a gold card and you know how clergy can talk (the ones who saw him).

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I find it disgusting. Of the many parishioners I have had over the years, there have been some very attractive ones (some very let me tell you). But I have always known my place. Parish – Priest. There it starts, and there it ends, drunk or sober. If I meet someone in a different context, I might like to flirt a little. But the point is, I am not their parish priest. As I say, I’m not an angel. But, there are some things that even drink doesn’t cover.

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Stephen Wilson reported several seminarian to Mullaney and accused them of being Informers to the media and you Pat. Pat, I am a vicitm of Stephen Wilson and my family has also suffered due to Mr Wilson’s reporting.

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Being a Roman Catholic priest and sexually active as a gay man are incompatible. No amount of faith or courage is going to square the circle. If a priest is trying to reconcile both then the only answer is to stop acting out and be faithful to your sacred promise, or leave and find contentment outside of the church. I did the later. I would have been celebrated my
silver jubilee had I remained but would have been deeply unhappy and probably found it too difficult to readjust to secular life if I had left later. It took me 5 years to find my feet and to accept myself and to come out to my family after I left. All I found was unconditional acceptance and love. A car, a roof over your head, no bills to worry about, and adulation from a few old ladies will never make up for true freedom and inner peace.

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Bishop Pat. I have rang the Parish today asking for a personal guarantee that my 19 year old son who attends Mass there will not be hit on by that man. I also asked that as a Parishioner, is my covenant envelope money funding WiFi as that creep will logged on pulling his plonker watching porn all day. The Priest of Deacon who answered called me sad and hung up! I will be calling again tomorrow and every day until they respond.

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Poor King Charles’ legacy built on rot and trying to be relevant. His Mother RIP had more faith in her small finger. He wanted to be Monarch of “all faiths” until it was pointed out to him that title isn’t possible historically because the original was granted to a former divorced King.
Another divorced King that takes his own toilet seat everywhere.

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How many Priests publicly profess to be celibate. I don’t know any, but it is an assumption of most people that they are. Some are most certainly not celibate. How many people have gone up to their priest or any priest or releigious and ask them straight out “Are you Celibate?”

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Celibacy means refraining from marriage. If a priest wishes to renounce celibacy, the issue goes to the pope.
Pehhaps you should ask, are you sexually active?

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How do you people come to find out about Pats blog?
None of you know what it’s like to be a priest.
Yes it can be lonely and hard, but the vows I made, I did so voluntarily.
But I take them serious.
Shame on you all.

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3:12 “you people”?! No wonder your lonely! Fr Les. You should let your hair down if you have any left and come down the bingo Friday night.

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I was once waiting for a bus outside Maynooth and refreshed my Grindr to see who would be close. I was amazed to discover there wasn’t a single Grindr user close enough to be in the seminary

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You have been on the Black Bush all afternoon in Coleraine it seens. If I was there I would be driven to drinking it too. A good Chinese sit in though.

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How many times was a certain D&C priest cautioned by the police for having sex in public? Who was the other two priests that accompanied him?

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Pat, are you an authentic priest living your vows? You made up your morals. Would Jesus approve of all your behaviour? Just curious. The ongoing revelations of double standards and hypocrisy is shattering whatever faith I have. These stories really challenge the core of my Catholic identity as a priest. The truth will eventually set us free but not without much pain and discomfort for the Church

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Bishop Buckley, Consider Thursdays, ‘Rollin’ Thunder Thursday’ a ‘Whistle Blowers’ Free for All!

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There is an Armagh youngish priest constantly on grindr. He has a distinctive tattoo that he shows to very few. His profile pic is of his skinny torso. I have taken photos as proof.

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Bishop P. What are your thoughts about plenary indulgence. My PP keeps banging on about them with nearly one every week being advertised.

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Every clergyman has been with at least one fellow gay priest – it’s fact – maybe more so from the 2000’s onwards. Unless straight

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3.17 so right yiu are And they’re the generation that’s now running the Curial offices and the synodal offices and posts of authority all over the European church – make you 🤢

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Fr Des Wilson would be turning in his grave at all this, I know you and him got on very well Pat. He was like yourself, couldn’t stand the hierarchy or the hypocrisy of it all. One priest he did not like at all was Fr McBrearty, couldn’t stand the flamboyance and fakeness.

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Portsmouth has some good honest priests. But it also has some shady characters too, well known for their un-celibate ways. Phylis Egan for all her faults is trying to adhere to what the church tells us to do – the Roman Catholic Church. Being ordained in 1990s late, I have seen many of my contemporaries lose the plot big time. Some of these men still are clerics in the diocese but they’re a dying breed.

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New York Lawyer publishes weekly list of religious figures, school officials & politicians arrested for child sexual abuse each week.says:

New York lawyer Kristen Prata Brow. is using her TikTok account to reveal the names. of religious figures, politicians. and school officials. arrested for child sexual abuse in the US each week.

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3:23 Good for her for providing a useful public service for the greater good. We need more good people like Kristen.

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We found out about this blog the same way you did Father.
Shame on you entertaining JPL and putting unsuspecting young men at risk.
Disgraceful.

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RN was up at half 4 in the morning making videos about Mary mother of god talking to him about cleansing the priesthood

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Wasn’t Leslie Adams terrific pals with a former Wonersh Rector whose brother was infamous?

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You are absolutely correct @3.19. Portsmouth has some really good men. None of them have good parishes / influential positions.
As has been said on this blog before: you can tell what a bishop is made of by the people he surrounds himself with. The fact that there’s not one good priest in his gang speaks volumes!
The JP’s and PJ’s and HAUSCHILD characters are not the kind you’d surround yourself with if you were serious about making a good go of it.
A great shame.

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At least EGAN cannot be accused of that this time! PIP CARROLL definitely, not Anthony Fyk, no.
Fyk is a real piece of work flirting his way around. He knows how to play the game. He schmoozes all the right guys, complementing all the old Canons making them feel 20yrs younger. He’ll go far! He is a master at his craft. All he has to do is keep out of trouble.

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JPL is in Southampton? You’re kidding. When did that happen? Is he working in the Parish? I have sons and nephews going to Mass there.

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The parishioners of Southampton should be warned. EGAN is risking the wellbeing and safety of young men. Let’s hope JPL behaves himself.
If he attacks another man, this will be EGANS fault.

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Is the PORTSMOUTH SAFEGUARDING team aware / supportive of this? Who is paying? The PRIEST RETIREMENT FUND?

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The only person who can sort PORTSMOUTH is EGAN himself.
It needs a total change. The whole thing needs restarting. It’s obviously not working and will not work. As time goes on things are worsening.
Bishop Philip, if you read this, REPENT. Things need to change. Please don’t keep flogging what is obviously a dead horse. Please don’t be stubborn. Please don’t be immature or vindictive. Be humble and start again while there’s still a good bit to go before your retirement.
Surround yourself with these ‘good men’ we’ve heard about.

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3:19 Does the church tell you to refer to your bishop as ‘she’?
You are part of the problem, and one of the dodgy characters you talk about.

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They are all given a girls name on arrival in seminary – all part of the bullying initiation horrors of seminary life. What’s bad gets worse as they rise to the top of the scum that filmcovers the cesspit.

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That’s disgusting, no wonder so many who attend these places and their boarding schools grow up to be such ruthless professional chancers with the 9 lives of the proverbial cat.

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If any bishop of England or Wales reads this, in charity, speak to Bishop Egan. Help him. He needs good and wise advice. He’s obviously not coping and could do with your support. There’s a catalogue of errors and things are not improving. Help him for goodness sake!

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Pat, I mentioned to you before and more recently, my WiFi is hacked
even though I changed service provider. If interference in my life continues I will begin to post names Re; who, what, where, when, why,
how, and the ongoing interference into my life.This is a Final Warning from me! Re; Discernment of Spirits- It begins in Seminary. By the way, I have the evidence! How far do they want to go back?? I can go back years.

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5:34 +Pat has other similar cases on file some of whom are willing to join forces and share evidence to put a stop to this which has also been going on for too long.

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Wow ! The blog theme today – JPL – is eliciting a lot of interest and comment. JPL is the gift that keeps on giving ! Are you sure you’ve not got him on your payroll, + Pat, to boost your stats ?! Just joking. I do hope that Their Lordships at their Low Week Meeting in Leeds will have dipped in to this blog (I’m sure Canon Thomas has !) and realise the constantly brewing scandal that surrounds JPL as well as + Egan who seems to be very indulgent of him. Maybe a few quiet words with + Egan might persuade him that the time. has come to cut loose JPL and let him get on with his life in another way.

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Bishop Pat, personally, and I do hope I’m wrong. I doubt the Solicitors Regulation Authority will be of any use; even if the firm have committed a serious criminal offence!
I have spent the past three-and-a-half years approaching solicitors all over Merseyside and Cheshire with a gigantic amount of quite substantial evidence of clerical abuse and subsequent cover-up – NOBODY will even entertain me, never mind represent me.
Even my 999 calls were ignored – all this while under attack from a local police informant.
I was hacked. My Identity stolen, etc.
Consider yourself bewitched invisible by Paul Nener, Bishop Paul Bayes – and Canon Paul Nener.
It doesn’t matter whether you have concrete evidence of ongoing child abuse – solicitors and legal firms are NOT a viable option because of the ”Nenenites”

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Why? What are you going to do? Tie me to a chair and put me in a shipping container with soundproof walls?

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Yes, there’s no doubting that JPL has many issues which he needs to resolve for his well being. While his life has many variations on a theme and his superiors seem not to have responded responsibly with him, I do not agree with the constant subjecting of him to so much commentary, much of which is very ridiculing, humiliating and scathing of him. Surely, with any person who is psychologically unwell or with deep, personal problems, what’s needed is to allow them their privacy and not to be making fun of them. By now JPL’s bosses must know the truth of his situation and be aware of their negligence and disregard for him at a psychological level. I believe that it’s an abuse in itself to be chasing down JPL. Whatever about his predelictions and unsuitability, he does not deserve further humiliation. I’m imagining myself in his shoes and just wondering how I’d cope. Who gives any of us the authority to dismantle another human being, emotionally, spiritually and mentally? As a Christian, as a priest, my heart must be one of mercy and kindness, that of Jesus Christ. There are enough people in society to judge, condemn and crucify. Iwiukd argue a merciful approach to JPL. Seriously.

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And any room in your priestly kindness for the young men he tried to seduce? No. I thought not.

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Nor in yours pat. You are a
Most cruel and unkind individual. But of course you just love people who agree with you and you dont have the guts or the moral strength to publish this.

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No judgement for JP who seduces young male parishioners.
But plenty of priestly judgement for me.
You are a link in all the corruption.

Now piss off and go back to your support of corruption.

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7:04
You sound like a wuzzy wimp-all frills with no knick-knacks!
Listen, we are gone way beyond cruelty and kindness.
For many of us, this is life and death.
Now, what might Christ Jesus say?

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7:07 well said and they can take the rest of their cohorts with them.

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6:40 is the standard answer on ‘the JPLs’ of the blog. What of victims-survivors of clerical abuse? What is your view of retraumatization and revictimization of victims-survivors who come forward? What is your
view of gaslighting,slandering, endless interference into lives of survivors, including blocking employment opportunities? What is your view of catholic Christians prematurely in their graves due to direct consequences of CSA or abuse as vulnerable adults? Would you like to walk in my shoes, or the shoes of countless CSA victims-survivors for a few years?
I very seriously doubt it. You claim; ‘As a Christian, as a priest, my heart must be one of mercy and kindness, that of Jesus Christ.’ Last December your Episcopal brothers in Ireland acknowledged a RECKONING on abuse has yet to take place in the Irish Catholic Church- after 35 years of ongoing disclosures! What does such a statement say of hearts of priests in the Episcopate. Give us all a break, will Yea! Seriously.

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7.35: Twist my words all you like. I know my conscience is clear. I wish you every blessing but there are many priests who are very caring, understanding and have demonstrated great empathy. Some just simply refuse to believe that.

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8:17
Hold your Horses; Demonstrate to me how I twisted your words?
Whether your conscience is clear or not clear is between you and Almighty God.It’s none of my business. Did I make reference to whether all many or any priests are very caring, understanding or have demonstrated great empathy? Here’s the rub! Believe what? Some just simply refuse to believe that…what is the ‘that’ you refer to?

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Jesus Christ has entered the chat.
From Luke 17:
‘Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. 3 So watch yourselves.
“If your brother or sister[a] sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them.’
That phrase about stumbling is a translation of the Greek word skandalon and is where our word scandal comes from. You are conveniently only attributing the final bit to Jesus and ignoring the whole passage where the one sinning (following straight on from the passage about causing the little ones to stumble) should be rebuked and forgiven ONLY if he repents.
Elsewhere in the gospels repentance is shown by actions not words.
Any time you want me to tell you what Jesus Christ actually says, just express your idea of it.

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9:05 Judging by 6:40’s performance, they think they do but it’s a twisted Jesus Christ of their own imagining.
It’s Disney Princess theology again: they can’t possibly see themselves as, say, the shepherds who feed themselves instead of the sheep, because in their world view they can only ever be the good guys and anyone questioning this is the devil.
You will of course be struck by how this sounds like (checks notes) a cult.

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9:37
They seem dazzled by their own goodness.
Cult is an appropriate descriptive term.
They seem a caste made in their own image within the Church.
Protectionism comes first since the preferential option for the priestly
caste reigns supreme.

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Quote from Mr Ben Colabgelo, Manager of the Ards Friary in County Donegal, Ireland where John Paul Lyttle worked in 2007.
John Paul Lyttle fell off a ledge where he sat smoking at 4am in Clifton Lodge, Isleworth, home of Rev. Ray Lyons.
Police confirmed that 2 men and a woman who were with the trainee priest when he fell from a loft window will not be charged with attempted murder.
A talented pianist, Lyttle was staying in the home of Rev. Ray Lyons, ambulance crews arrived to find Lyttle on a concrete patio with a fractured skull and head injuries. He later had a plate inserted in his skull.
Source: Richmond & Twickenham Times

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– can JP still play the piano?
– Guernsey long needed resubjugating ecclesially under the Falklands Prefect

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Funny that Brendan name resurfaces. His poor mammy was.n’t seen for dust from her Tesco check out fays in Cookstown since his Maynooth days.

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If it’s sooooo strange for ‘FYK’ to change diocese, is it not strange that PJ SMITH left LIVERPOOL for PORTSMOUTH?

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Pat, does your SPR still frequent that Co Down hostelry? I passed it and thought of you. Plenty of Union flags on the main Street I noticed.

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Wish I knew this SPR? It sounds like a good group for an elderly old timer PP like me that got left behind by my bishop and others. I enjoy this blog but have different views. Thank you.

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Bishop Pat, this CEO Peter Jackson went to St Edward’s Catholic College, Liverpool.
St Edward’s college provide choir & music to the Metropolitan Cathedral.
Mr Jackson formerly practiced in the marine sector.

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