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IN DEFENCE OF GLASGOW’S FATHER “DANCER” DUNN.

BY RICHARD LYNAS

Here, for what they are worth, are my views on the article about Father Dancer Dunn and the Dunn family in general, by the ‘Scottish correspondent’ who contributed the article about Dancer to Bishop Pat Buckley’s blog in the first place.
It is a long time since I read such a vicious attack on a person’s views and values and alleged behaviour via such a wide- ranging and, to me, deeply troubling effort at character assassination. Dear me! Yet another anonymous keyboard warrior, deeply committed to the TRUTH getting out there and supremely confident that he or she knows what the TRUTH is. Should have listened to the quote from Pontus Pilate all those years ago: What is truth? he asked. And, unsurprisingly, he did not wait for an answer!
However, a few words MY truth to start with. My name is Richard Lynas, Glasgow- born and bred and a long- retired secondary school head teacher, now 80 years of age. I am also an uncle through marriage of Father Stephen ‘Dancer’ Dunn, having been (and being
still) married for 55 years to one of Dancer’s aunts on his father’s side.
I have just become aware of the existence of this blog, know nothing of the blogger, Bishop Pat Buckley, other than the Ballymena phone number, and have never previously heard of Patricia McKeever of the Catholic Truth Society. And I know nothing of ‘the Scottish correspondent’ other than the impression I have gained from reading his/her article about Father Dancer Dunn, his wider family and his commitment to the Latin Mass.

Here are a few more of MY truths. Dancer’s grandfather on his mother’s worked in the licensed trade, surgically pulling pints for his many thirsty regulars. His grandpa on his father’s side was wee Dr Joe Dunn, 5 foot 3 and a half inches tall (his claim!) and a legendary GP who devoted the best part of 40 years of his life to the care of his patients in Bridgeton, one of the poorest practices in the UK and a practice which exemplified in many of his patients a wide range of the chronic ill health issues that so many of us now recognise as being the inevitable concomitant of grinding poverty. Neither of Dancer’s grandparents owned any of the businesses mentioned. Dr Joe left behind his family home to his children when he died and to me, his youngest son- in- law, he left behind an old Volkswagen Beetle, valued at £50 a couple of years later. I loved the man!
And I cherished my Beetle Banger.
Dancer Dunn’s dad, Dr John Dunn, took over the Bridgeton practice when wee Dr Joe died. Suffice to say, perhaps, that, years later, the local church adjacent to the Bridgeton medical practice, one of Glasgow’s biggest, churches, was packed out into the street with Dr John’s patients when he, at his special request, was allowed to invite his brother, Columban Father Gerry Dunn, to say a Latin Mass in honour of his 70th birthday, when that biblical age of three score and ten years came around.
Speaking of the Latin Mass, I do know that Father Stephen inherited from his dad and his uncle Gerry, their deeply traditional, not to say fundamentalist, views about the rights and wrongs, as they saw it, of the practice of the Catholic Faith in the modern world.. And he certainly inherited their readiness to express those views, without fear or favour, to those at the top end of the church’s hierarchy. In essence, they believed, rightly or wrongly, that the modern church was too liberal in its interpretation of the word of God, as expressed in the Gospels. And their deep commitment to the Latin Mass was but one example of their traditional line.

I freely confess that, although I agreed with, and still try to practise in my own personal, private and fairly quiet way most of the traditional values held by Stephen, his dad and his uncle Gerry, I often disagreed with their apparent belief that the best way to help others to see the Light was to ram those views down other people’s throats to such an extent that they soon took to hiding any time they saw any of them coming!
And yet, and yet….I could point you in the direction of many a person whose respect for Stephen’s grandparents, uncles, aunts, siblings and extended members of the Dunn family – and, yes, occasionally Stephen himself- knew no bounds. Many of the extended Dunn family, some included in the names mentioned by ‘the Scottish correspondent’ were or are among some of most respected people in the Glasgow area, not least within medical and religious circles. For myself, as a mere in- law, many of them are among some of the most deeply caring people I have ever met in my life. At least one of them was the closest I have ever come to knowing a living saint.
Does that make Dancer a good guy? Of course, not. I am not sure if anyone has ever succeeded in persuading Dancer that the best evangelism starts with the evangelist respecting the dignity, rights and needs of the other person to have their current views respected as a first step in the evangelist gently directing the third party in a better direction. Dancer, like the ‘Scottish correspondent’, KNOWS where the truth lies-and that the sooner you learn that, the sooner you will be saved. Then again, perhaps the ‘Scottish correspondent’ is a match for Dancer, in that regard…
PS to Bishop Pat- Dancer was so called by his pals at school because he would dance from one foot to the other as he nervously awaited a swish or two of his teacher’s belt across his hands for some misdemeanour or other! Sadly, that did not work either!

PAT SAYS

Dear Richard

Thank you for your excellent contribution.

It is clever, witty, and so well written.

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181 replies on “IN DEFENCE OF GLASGOW’S FATHER “DANCER” DUNN.”

Yeah Pat was ordained by a Palmarian Church Bishop. The Palmarian Church is basically a cult, with 1000-1500 members. Do a bit of research into them, Wikipedia for example. I dont think they would like Pat a lot!

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I was consecrated by two bishops – one who had left the Palmarian cult when it became weird and an American independent Catholic archbishop.
At the time of my consecration – 25 years ago tjis month, the Irish Catholic bishops released a statement saying that my consecration was valid but unlawful.

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6:11 The Irish Catholic Bishops have to date failed to redress victims for the unlawful abuses of power and privilege perpetrated by their member s on a daily basis.

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6.11

How can an episcopal consecration be valid, but, at the same time, be unlawful? Makes no sense at all.

The very validity of such a consecration renders it lawful. (Duh!)

That’s the IRISH bishops for you: no sense of logic, and no sense at all. 🤣

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4.18
Your forays into theology have been called out before. Validity is a theological category, licity a legal, more correctly, a canonical one.

Aditionally, efforts at concealing your identity are risible.

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7:27
What Is Agape, Phileo, Storge, and Eros Love? (John 21:15-17)
It’s rather peculiar so many priests seem to confuse the word ‘love’.

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7.27

For a Romanist, Canon Law always trumps truth, even when truth concerns kiddie-fiddling by him.

Romanists love Canon Law; it’s … well… it’s their bible, really. And it’s what sets him apart, from the rest of decent humanity, like.

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What is TRUTH? For starters; not telling lies in safeguarding proceedings and, calling out those who abuse children and vulnerable adults in one’s circle or work place.

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1.31
The daily dose from the lapsed ex-seminarian turned unionist who abuses the victims of child sexual abuse by inserting it into posts dealing with other matters. By weaponising their suffering he makes it clear he has no concern for them or for the issue of CSA apart from using it to fuel his obsession. The time of the comment speaks volumes.

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Alcohol and online forums are a toxic combination. My advice is to scroll on by. Pat is allowing him to ruin the blog again, for reasons best known to Pat.

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1:31 is telling the truth. It obviously rattles some of clerical set on the blog.
The time of the comment..!You both live in a very narrow world.

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The comment was in support of the victim’s searching. The comment was asserting that we know what is right and truth from the human / moral perspective – even in the face of those who refuse to acknowledge what is right and what is wrong.
I apologise it it was not clear enough.

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10.19
I know who you think it is, but it isn’t he.
What were you saying about obsession?

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Whatever about Dancer Dunn’s skills his colleagues are so crooked they are walking sideways and speaking from the sides of their mouths.

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Pat’s less-talented contempory of gay tryst fame was bound to comment early on this topic.

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Don’t be so naive-where is he going to put the collection box…?
On the ….

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@ 10:21am
We knew you would be early commenting with your newly learned two words “tryst” and “contemporary”. You might at least have learned to spell them properly but being illiterate I suppose you can’t help it. Now don’t you go looking for a tryst you know what happened the last time you tried it.🤣

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I’m not Jim S. whose comments make only marginally more sense than yours. You and he are peas in a pod.

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Is there any update on the victimised clerical whistleblower Dom Benedict Andersen, Silverstream Priory or any update on the Roscrea Cistercians?

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@1:19pm
I know you don’t know who you are, you’ve been on here with more names than the Litany of Loretto. That’s why you’re confused and don’t know who you are stupid cow!

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@ 2:03pm
Nettie the only confused person is you, you’re so illiterate you can’t even spell Royal Highness, you’re the retard of the blog.🤣 Can I suggest adult literacy classes.😏

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Which one are they not all tricky dicky’s in one way or another or even both down there in the wilds of killaloe. What Brendan Grace saw in that place we will never know.

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Irish priest who claimed he had sex with a murder victim accused of raping a schoolgirl
The accuser is now aged 51 and is to launch a civil action against the Church
Fr Gerry Nugent was accused of raping a school girl
The disgraced Irish priest who claimed he had sex with a murder victim has been accused of raping a schoolgirl.
The accuser is now aged 51 and is to launch a civil action against the Church over the alleged attacks that she says destroyed her life.
The woman – who asked to be identified only as Teresa – said Fr Gerry Nugent made his way into her life when she went to stay with her gran as a vulnerable 11-year-old.
She claims the disgraced cleric – who died from a heart attack in 2010 – subjected her to two years of sexual abuse before raping her for the first time days after her 13th birthday.
Teresa, who lives in Glasgow, said: “I objected but he said it was OK, that this is what the priest does with his special ones.
Father Gerry Nugent, the priest at the centre of the trial of murdered Polish woman Angelika Kluk
Drugged and abused for a decade in ‘paedophile’s paradise’
“I told my gran but she was furious and told me I was evil – and I just let him do what he wanted.”
Shamed Nugent – who was born in Dublin – was removed as parish priest following the murder of Angelika Kluk whose body was found in his church, St Patrick’s in Anderston, Glasgow, in 2006.
Polish national Angelika was murdered by serial killer Peter Tobin who had been unwittingly hired as a handyman at the church. During Tobin’s murder trial, at which he was found guilty, lurid details about Nugent’s sexual activity with prostitutes and Angelika were heard.
Teresa hopes that speaking out will encourage other victims to come forward. She added: “I’ve been struggling to cope with what Nugent put me through.
“I contacted the church and told them what had happened and they agreed to pay for counselling.
“But someone from within the church told me to take legal advice and that is what I’ve done.
“I’d visit my gran and Nugent was her priest and friend. He made my gran happy. He’d tell jokes and had lots of stories and I adored him. My gran used to refer to alcohol as the devil – yet he was the only one she didn’t mind having a drink.
“I was about 11 when he started doing things which I felt uncomfortable about. He’d hold me or stroke me – like some kind of pet cat.
“One time he put his arms around me and started rubbing himself on me. He raped me just after I turned 13 and gave me a gift for my birthday.
“But my gran took it off me as a woman from the church had one similar that had gone missing.”
Teresa claims the abuse continued until she was 15, when her gran died.
She added: “She passed away suddenly and that was it – I said I didn’t want anything to do with him. He said that I was evil, just as my gran had said. I felt nothing when I saw in the news he had died.”
There was standing room only at Nugent’s funeral when he died, aged 66.
The service was conducted by Archbishop of Glasgow Mario Conti, one of Scotland’s most senior churchmen, who paid a carefully-worded tribute to a man with a “big heart”.
Three years previously, Archbishop Conti had relieved Nugent of his parish duties as a catalogue of transgressions were made public.
Angelika was found murdered under the floorboards of Nugent’s church and during killer Tobin’s trial, Dublin-born Nugent claimed he had a sexual relationship with the student while she was living at the church’s chapel house.
The alcoholic was also found guilty of contempt of court after failing to give straight answers to questions while giving evidence.
He was forced to retire and the Catholic Church issued an apology over his behaviour.
After his death, it emerged he also used prostitutes in the chapel house.
There had been numerous complaints to the church about his sexual advances toward vulnerable members of his flock.
At a previous parish in Glasgow’s Ruchill, he came to the attention of Strathclyde Police when a woman accused him of rape.
Teresa said: “I didn’t go to the police when I decided to come forward as I knew he was already dead.
“I first approached the church instead in 2015, and Archbishop Tartaglia sat and listened and said he believed me completely.
“Meetings continued but the barriers came down last year and they said they wanted me to get a lawyer so I could apply for compensation.
“I asked, ‘How much is appropriate for multiple rapes of a child?’
“I don’t want money for foreign holidays or frivolous reasons. I want it so I can continue my counselling for as long as I feel I need it.
“I want to get my health and life back on track. It has affected every aspect of my life for more than 30 years.”
A spokesman for the Archdiocese of Glasgow said: “The church has apologised unreservedly to all who have been affected in any way by abuse by the clergy. Such abuse is evil and indefensible.
“The person in this case brought her case to the attention of the church several years ago and we’ve been in supportive and sympathetic dialogue.”

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‘Such abuse is evil and indefensible.’
I love the way they say this, after they all promoted this abuse at a policy level for decades.
Evil.

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The Fine Gael leader in the Seanad, Senator Regina Doherty, has called on the Cabinet to look again at the Mother and Baby Homes legislation, so that survivors who were in such homes for less than six months can qualify for redress.
Senator Doherty said she had not heard “any logical reason” as to why such survivors should not qualify, adding this left her with the impression that “… it boils down to money, and I really hate that.”
She said excluding such people means they are also excluded from the apology and acknowledgement of their pain and this would “hinder any recovery” and compound their pain.
Referencing yesterday’s “eye-watering” corporate tax receipts, she added: “So the one thing I absolutely know is that we’re not short of money.”
The Fine Gael leader in the Seanad said Senators needed to: “… go back to Government… go back to our Cabinet colleagues… and ask them not to leave anyone behind.”
She said the government needed to “recognise the hurt we have caused in the past number of months.”
Senator Doherty said if the government made changes it would “play a part in that fight against darkness and despair” and contribute to “justice and dignity”.
Opening the debate, Minister for Children Roderic O’Gorman described the €800 million scheme as the “largest of its kind in the history of the State” and would involve financial payments to 34,000 people and enhanced medical cards to 19,000 people.
Mr O’Gorman said, despite the size of the scheme, the Government recognised that no payment would make-up for the pain and suffering inflicted by the shameful legacy of the Mother-and-Baby Home institutions.
The Minister said the legislation tried to help survivors by having a low burden of proof; that it was non-adversarial and evidence of abuse was not required.
He said it had been amended to further assist survivors by ensuring that the list of institutions could be expanded at a later date.

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9.08: Miss Regina lost her seat at last election and Enda Kenny rewarded her with a Seanad Seat, unelected but given as a freebie. What a big mouth she is. She’s the worst headmistressy politician ever, unbearable and smarmy. She git elected on a pro life agenda (no abortion ever) but changed her mind in repeal the 8th..she voted for abortion. Would never trust her.

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The Government’s Mother-and-baby Homes redress scheme has been criticised by survivors’ groups, who say it unfairly excludes children who spent less than six months in an institution. It’s currently making its way through the legislative process in the Oireachtas.
In recent days, Dr James Gallen, associate professor of law and government in Dublin City University, and Fine Gael Senator Barry Ward have been debating the issue over WhatsApp, as part of The Conversation from RTÉ’s Upfront with Katie Hannon.
Senator Barry Ward: Firstly, can I say that I understand how emotive and painful this issue is for so many people. I have spoken to many survivors of Mother-and-baby home and I think it is difficult for any of us who have not experienced it.
The Government therefore, is in an invidious position, because it has to balance that need to vindicate individual citizens, and protect their rights, on the one hand, and to protect the taxpayer and the public purse, on the other.
So, however unfortunate it is, my understanding of what the Department has done is to put in place a scheme to give redress and compensation to as many of the 68,000 survivors as it reasonably can. I understand that there are other elements in place for all survivors, but that they do not necessarily include a financial payment.
The decision to limit the scheme as above was made on the basis that it mirrors other similar schemes. The cost of the scheme is estimated at €800m. To extend it to every one of the survivors (including those in M&B Homes for less than 6 months) could double the cost of the scheme to €1.6 billion. The unfortunate reality is that every euro spent on the scheme is a euro that is not available to be spent on a service that is required today. As the Taoiseach has said, we cannot spend the same euro twice.
This is not to diminish the hurt and anguish experienced by all survivors, but the Government must ensure that the taxpayers’ money is spent in a reasonable and effective way, while also acknowledging the awful experience of the survivors of the Mother-and-baby home. That is why all of them are recognised, even if some of them will not qualify for financial redress.
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Dr James Gallen: Thanks Barry. We are talking about political choices among different but present-day issues that impact on the country’s budget, including whether and how law, rights and litigation can play a role in addressing these significant harms.
A more honest approach may recognise that the State found the political will to provide redress totaling €2.7 billion for houses affected by structural difficulties caused by Mica, but not the political will to provide compensation for all survivors of Mother-and-baby homes.
I think its also important to note that as a country we could be looking more closely at how to maximise the financial contribution of non-State actors, especially Christian churches and religious orders, to redress. We saw a contribution in the context of industrial and reformatory schools, but we have not seen any contribution in other non-recent harm settings.
Other countries, notably Canada and Australia, amended their laws regarding civil litigation to make it easier for survivors to sue the Churches and religious orders, which in turn prompted them to make contributions to State-administered redress schemes. The government claims at present it cannot justify redress for all those formerly in Mother-and-baby homes. Perhaps the Churches and related orders could contribute to make up the difference in recognition of their responsibilities?
There is no principled reason to limit this to six months, beyond cost. This will operate to exclude the vast majority of living survivors who were children in Mother-and-baby homes and create avoidable and invidious discriminations between categories of survivors. It seems cruel and perverse to design a scheme that will deny a former child resident redress on the basis of length of stay, given this was a factor entirely outside of their control.
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Senator Barry Ward: I can’t disagree with your point about how the allocation of these resources affects citizens today. I agree and have called for there to be greater resources allocated to survivors in terms of counselling and other psychological services, and other measures like retraining and employment assistance where appropriate. Of course these decisions are political choices, but that is the challenge that politicians have, to constantly balance those resources, and to make hard decisions about how limited resources are allocated.
When it comes to the contributions from religious orders, I could not agree with you more on this, James. It is really important that those who actually operated the institutions must contribute to the cost of the redress scheme. I have raised this with the Minister and I know that he also feels this way.
In the past, governments have done deals with institutions and religious orders that have been detrimental to the tax payer and that should not be allowed to happen again. I understand that discussions and negotiations are underway in this regard (to which I am obviously not privy), and I hope that they will see a meaningful contribution that also recognises the harm they have caused to generations of people and their families.
To be clear, the redress scheme will cover the majority of survivors but I accept that it will leave some feeling that they have been overlooked. It is important to restate the recognition of ALL survivors and to acknowledge the awful situation they have been put in, but there is a basis on which the State has decided to structure the scheme. As I have said before, there is very little fairness for survivors of Mother-and-baby home and it is not possible to undo the harm that has been done to them. The hope is that the various aspects of the scheme, including financial redress, birth information, medical assistance, etc. will go some small way to help ease that pain, however inadequately.
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Dr James Gallen: It’s great to see some acceptance of the need to get actors other than the state involved in providing redress, which of course should extend to enable survivors to access personal information held in private archives. Certainly, the indemnity provided in the past left the taxpayer picking up 89% of the bill for the Residential Institutions Redress Board, and shouldn’t be repeated. In a context where religious orders and churches still own the majority of schools in the country, I think conversations about who pays for the past should prompt us also to consider whether and how the ongoing relationship of church and State could be changed.
Lastly other jurisdictions took the chance to revise their rules of civil litigation to make it easier for survivors to sue, especially religious orders, which incentives them to contribute to any state administered redress scheme. There are options to address the past that don’t place the burden on taxpayer alone and those should be explored to ensure no survivor is left behind

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The Government is being urged to introduce emergency legislation to preserve Magdalen Laundry records.
Deputy Marian Harkin says at the moment there is a chaotic situation with records held by various institutions, with some allowing access and others refusing.
She cited an example where book researchers made requests under Freedom of Information – but were refused access in almost every case.
The Magdalen laundry in Galway was founded in 1824 and later transferred to Forster Street before closing in 1984.
Deputy Harkin argues all records relating to these institutions must be preserved and protected.

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What’s the point of Richard Lynas’ post ? Seemingly to show that all the Dunns are good chaps, perhaps a bit rigid and dogmatic in their traditionalist faith ? So ? And ? The Dunn family are not whom we are interested in. Father Dancer Dunn is the one who holds our interest. Although, I have to say I’m a bit stuck as to why ? Perhaps someone can help me to see why the Dunns and Dancer in particular are worthy of my attention at this breakfast time.

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I liked the writer and his style.

You are free to ignore the piece

Enjoy your breakfast

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8:02
Bishop Pat, I thought the initial problem with Fr. Dunn was due to his rigid orthodoxy? At least some of his colleagues felt he was too orthodox?

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He is an 80 + intelligent man simply giving his insight into a man who has appeared several times on the blog

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Bring back Rawhide, Roreee, PB JPL, Littletwink, Phonsie, and the cast of characters that bring such joy at breakfast time…..

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9:14 it would be a Christian act if Victims and Survivors could enjoy their breakfast in peace without worrying about what harm will befall them whilst Bishops stubbornly persist in endanger practices by protecting, financing and facilitating abusive priests with “form”.

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11:45
Why are so many Bishops protecting financing and facilitating abusive priests with, as you say, “form” ? Why are Survivors and Victims unable to live in peace without worrying about what harm will befall them?

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1:58 Why do you ask?
Do you have the motivation and ability to do anything about it?

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9:50 pm
Why ask?
What is the Christian response? Are you a Bishop? If so, do you have
the motivation and ability to do anything about it? This is not theological, scriptural or spiritual rocket science. What, did you think, Christ Jesus response might be?

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You have to laugh when someone posts a fairly lengthy comment just to say they’re (supposedly) not interested in the subject of the blog post. 🤔

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Well, clearly, they are not, so far as you are concerned. Fine. As the man said, enjoy your breakfast!
In my case, I respect Dancer’s deep commitment to his views, even if I do not always agree with them or the overly aggressive, self- righteous way in which he presents them. When Dancer was born, I fear he might have been at the back of the queue where empathy was being distributed.
But shame upon the anonymous Scottish contributor who seemed to feel the need to smear, with a mixture of misinformation, innuendo and irrelevant allusions, an extended family, simply as a means of parading shocking levels of calumny, detraction and defamation against one member of that family.

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And anti-Catholic. Next he’ll be criticising our holy paed.. sorry, priests. 🙏

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12:11 ‘Synagogue of Satan ‘ is a biblical reference. If you know any Christians they can show you where it is and share the gospel with you.

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You probably won’t publish this, but I fear this blog is becoming a hotbed for the demonic. Demons often cry out during exorcisms that all priests are murderers/pedophiles/abusers/corrupt and that is exactly what the commenters often do on this blog.
I don’t think you’re demonically possessed (although I cannot be sure) but I do think you are a valuable tool for the forces of satan and I fear for your eternal state.
Pat, if you are the Christian you like to promote yourself to be: please pray to your Guardian Angel for support, pray to St Michael for protection, Trust entirely in Jesus Christ and not in your pride, repent of your sins to a Catholic priest in good standing with Christ’s church, repent of your heresy, repent of your schism, and shut down this blog. In the name of Christ please shut down this blog.
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

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8.48
What you are rightly calling out about the blog are very largely the comments of one rejected seminarian.

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Thank you, 10:38, for ably demonstrating why the departing priest yesterday was right not to give his name because he’d get stalked and harassed on here. Disappointed that Pat Buckley lets people already hurt by the cult get bullied on here as well though.

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12:41. The priest and anyone else who has left their name on this blog are stalked and harassed, look back over the archive and elsewhere. Disgusting Nazi mentality. Mafia. Well able to keep their mouths shut when covering up criminality unless of course they are busy communicating lies and false narratives. It’s all been done before.

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@ 8:48am
OMG! Patsy you know who giving out to you with her false piety. High time The Archangel Michael smote her with his sward cut out her tongue and cast her down to hell with all the other evil spirits who like her wander through the world for the ruin of souls.😏

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12.19
A sward is a patch of green grass. Didn’t realise Sanctus Michaelis Archangelus (your missal will help you translate) possessed one.

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The blog Latinist at 1:23 once again shows us why the liturgy went into the vernacular. 😂

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8.48

If the demons cry out as you said, then, for once, they are telling the truth.

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8:48
Dominic, with respect, tell us something re demonic, St. Michael the Archangel, Trusting in Jesus Christ, praying to Guardian Angel, repenting of sins, etc…we don’t already know. There is a difference between some, any,a little,a few and many. Did it ever occur to you some or many priests in the RCC might be doing the work of the Devil on the quiet? And maybe, just maybe, the Devil might want this blog shut down, Dominic.

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What you are saying are demonic trickery. Our Lady of Medjegorie warns against criticising priests because it is that criticism which opens to the demonic.

This site is just demonic and should be closed if you love Christ.

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So, Our (well, Your) Lady of Meddling-gorge wants to protect kiddie-fiddling Romanist priests? And that criticising them, and their fellow priests, either for kiddie-fiddling and/or its delberate concealment, opens one to demonic influence? I should be laughing at this stage, were it not for the astonishment I feel at such crass stupidity in (presumably) an adult

You have a very literal mind. The Romanists would love a lot more of your freaky kind.

You probably believe that God made Eve from Adams rib, and that Noah built an ark large enough to accomodate two of every known animal species. Now I am laughing, not with you, but at you.

Fair play to you, though, for you’ve managed to do what no other could: at a stroke, you’ve convinced me that Meddling-gorge is an absolute hoax, for the gullible, like you.

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6.43
Your fake concern for victims of CSA was referenced this morning. It wasn’t long before that reference was vindicated. It is an abuse in itself.

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Hey, Dominic! Read the post at 4.20. It’s about a pervert, criminal, and kiddy fiddling Irish priest, Fr Gerry Nugent. (Did I mention that he was a rapist, too?)
Now Dominic, my good fellow, are you suggesting that this man should not have been criticised for kiddy fiddling, and for rape of a child? What say, Dominic? Give us all the benefit of your cathbot wisdom again, you absolute berk.

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9:06 If he was married to me he’d never drink again. He wouldn’t have the energy.

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Hi bishop Pat, when are you going to cast your eyes over killaloe diocese again? Lugs has bullied all associated with St. Flannan’s Diocesan seminary. The local county council have given permission for a nursing home to be built on the lands overiding objections from staff of Flannans past and present and even the current board of management of the College. There are no lengths he will not go to for hard cash!! He has alot of ‘mias’ to pay. Jerry Carey, Ger Fitz, the Roscrea pair Michael Harding and Pat Tracey and also Fr. Tom O Gorman. Keeping them all in the style they are accustomed to..

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It appears that Bishop Fintan “Teflon” Monahan and his “crews” in Killaloe are a law unto themselves.

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Fr Des Hillery has now returned to the Diocese of Killaloe after a sabbatical.

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Don’t members of Clare County Council work in churches there as deacons and the like & one of them left the council to train as a priest.

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9:13 I have never heard of these priests what are they alleged to have done? If they are missing, perhaps they are serving their sentences.

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They don’t care, this blog will quieten down now they’ll be busy partying with their millions from the school deal.

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If you don’t want to be a celibate Priest, then join a religious orgy, sorry I mean order – I beg your pardon Bishop Buckley.

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There was many a religious orgy at Incognito sauna Dublin, I met more priests there than in any Church.

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When I was in seminarian it was great, I would go back and do it all over again no bother. As a gay man I got every thing I needed and more from it!

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Afternoon Pat, sorry I didn’t get telling you yesterday happy birthday, I have been on some bender. Can not remember the last weekend at all and now Charles coronation on Saturday so I doubt I will see light of day for another week

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The article forgets to mention once again His Grace Archbishop William Nolan has suspended Stephen Dunn this is the second time he has been suspended and hopefully the last.
It seems he attacked the Church badly and totally attacked the Holy Father Francis.
Why does Stephen and Mark Morris not just go to the SSPX as going to the media will not make his grace change his mind it is a mandate from the Holy See.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23495836.glasgow-decision-cancel-thriving-latin-mass-sparks-fury/
Archbishop Nolan has tried his best for the Latin Mass Brigade when he should have just chucked them out.

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@ 1114 am
Here she goes again in her fantasy world she thinks she’s Her Disgrace Bunty Nolan’s spokesperson, good for Fr. Dunn if he attacked aul Fanny I’m sure it was deserved. The Novus Ordo Brigade can’t accept no matter what they say The Latin Mass is thriving and will continue to do so. Meanwhile you’ll see poor Bunty will have to close many empty Churches.
Bring it on, the late un- lamented aul Tarty had a list of over forty to be closed I’m sure there are many more since her demise.

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Pat, please get your prostate checked, my poor dad is going through a torrid time with his. Please say a prayer for him.

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Mine, too, from regular exercise.
You don’t have to look your best when flying solo.

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The theoligical issue here is Steven Dunn does not appear to be able to distinguish between law and morality. Because one regards same-sex attraction and engagement as immoral does not mean they ought to be illegal. Otherwise, we would all be behind bars for missing Mass on Sundays or for otherwise not praying.

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11:37 That indistinctness is exactly what fundamentalists want, though, so it isn’t really a failure. These people want what they imagine to be a theocracy, and in all theocracies all sorts of crimes against humanity are the norm.
The apartheid regime in South Africa claimed to be a theocracy, for example.
It would be well within standard RC teaching for the death penalty to be applied to having an abortion, for example.
This is why the cult is not only unpleasant, it is very very dangerous. And incidentally, abortions would no doubt be available for the in crowd. Because they’re favoured by God.

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1.13
A Protestant state for a Protestant people fits the definition of theocracy rather neatly. The criminals of the South African apartheid regime could have taken lessons from the six counties’ apparatus.

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1:55 Your daily reminder that Irish cathbots have horizons which are incredibly small. This is why Irish cathbotism is a byword internationally for rigidity and calling any other cathbots fake.

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1.55

You’re no historian; that’s for sure.

Sir James Craig, Northern Ireland’s first Prime Minister, didn’t utter those words about the Stormont parliament, but about the Northern Ireland State. Does this make a difference? Well, yes, as regards historical accuracy, something you are hardly bothered about.

The following makes an even bigger difference, since it historically contextualizes Craig’s remark: he made it in direct response to parliamentary claims about the Free State, that it was ‘Catholic’.

Irish nationalists and republicans do like to deceive themselves that they aren’t in the least sectarian and bigoted.

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Fianna Fáil 1997 – 2007 led by Bertie Ahern
2008-2011 led by Brian Cowen
Fine Gael 2008 led by Enda Kenny
Current Government
Fine Gael led by Leo Varadker
Fianna Fáil led by Michael Martin
Leo Varadker “all of us aware” over “20 years”
Just as the Dáil was calmly discussing the 7th INTERIM report of the RAPE of Grace for 20 years, and others, in 2021
2022 Dpp “no charges”
Rape, abuse of children, women and men all acceptable to the 3 parties in Government.
Shame on every one of them. Every TD and Senator, past and present, who are claiming a salary or pension on the suffering of our most vulnerable children and citizens..that they were elected to defend their rights under the Irish Constitution, International Law and Human Rights Laws.
Violence against women and children stems from the 3 parties in Government and is endemic in every Government Department and Agency.
Shame

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Religious orders have yet to agree on contribution to mother and baby home redress schemesays:

Irish Religious orders have yet to agree on contribution to mother and baby home redress scheme
Children’s Minister Roderic O’Gorman said negotiations with religious orders on their contribution to redress scheme were taking ‘some time’.
Negotiations on how much the Church should pay towards mother and baby home redress have been put on the back burner, as the Government prioritises the rollout of the scheme.
Religious orders have yet to agree on how much will be contributed toward the mother and baby home redress scheme, with negotiations taking “some time”, according to Children’s Minister Roderic O’Gorman.
This €800m scheme will provide financial payments and an enhanced medical card to defined groups in acknowledgment of suffering experienced while resident in mother and baby and county home institutions.
No deadline has been put on the talks with the six religious orders involved in mother and baby homes, and the negotiations appear to have slowed as officials focus on getting the scheme up and running.
Officials now recognise the redress scheme is likely to be rolled out without any agreement from the religious orders on the amount they will pay into it.
“Following Government approval for the Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme, Minister O’Gorman commenced a process of engagement with all the religious congregations and church leaders with a view to discussing with them how they might contribute to the payment scheme,” a spokesperson for the Department of Children said.
“The minister recognises that the process is taking some time. This is because it has been necessary to prioritise the delivery of the essential legislation for the Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme.
The negotiations with the religious congregations, even if not concluded prior to the enactment of the legislation, will not adversely impact the timing of the opening of the scheme.”
Mr O’Gorman previously told the Irish Examiner he had received approval for an overall financial payments package worth €800m, which means the entire cost has been budgeted for.
“It will be drawn down over a five-year period so that is what’s been budgeted for. So the State can afford to pay it.”
However, he said the aim was to secure a “significant” contribution from the various religious orders.
The Government cannot compel the orders to make any payment, but it is requesting orders to help pay for some of the cost of the redress scheme.
Mr O’Gorman first wrote to the religious orders that ran mother and baby institutions, as well as to the archbishops of Dublin and Armagh, in January 2021, seeking a financial contribution to the Government’s redress scheme.
Meetings commenced in December 2021 on an individual basis, with each of the religious congregations and lay Catholic organisations involved with these institutions.
“The purpose of the meetings was to outline the details of the proposed payment scheme and to discuss how the congregation or organisation intends to contribute to the cost of this scheme,” the department spokesperson said.
“It is acknowledged that these discussions are very important to survivors and to the public. The matter, while ongoing, is being treated as confidential, in keeping with best practice in respect of any process of negotiation. A full report with be provided to Government when the negotiations are concluded.”
Campaigners and survivors have raised a number of concerns around the redress scheme, which they say does not go far enough. The scheme has been criticised as it excludes many people who were born in mother and baby homes and does not take into consideration those who were boarded out.

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Should any government or publicly funded organisation including schools, in this day and age, be doing business with an organisation with such an exceptional, persistently gruesome history of protecting predators?
Bishops are facilitating abusers who remain in ministry and others who are hiding in plain sight.

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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
May 3, 2023 at 9:14 am
If you are so desperate for titillation, get a subscription of The News of the World, or are you only interested, in the sexual shenanigans of Roman Catholic priest?

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I see cult members (eg 10:19) are reduced to making out that comments they don’t like are by one of the only two people ever banned from this blog that I am aware of. This is presumably in an attempt to get Pat to remove stuff they don’t like.
Two things spring to mind:
Do they really think Pat Buckley is as stupid as them?
And, more importantly,
It’s high time they realized how many people in the world recognize their cult as a criminal organization and danger to humanity; it’s far from one former semenarian, and these people all have the internet. Doh!

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1:08 it’s the only option to stop the rot. What’s bad will get worse. We pray for the safety and well-being of victims and survivors past and present.

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Well by including a few compliments to pat, you’ve guaranteed publication of your comment. Sadly many of mine seem to get binned even though they are in no way nasty or disrespectful. Would be interesting if Pat would kindly outline his moderation policy. That way i would know whether its even worth commenting in future?

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1:55 I have news for you: there are people, myself included, who seek authenticity and honesty in their communication and relationships, and don’t seek to use communication to manipulate other people as you do.
I appreciate that you will find this difficult to believe, but I have to tell you the truth, because otherwise you might never have the opportunity to know that a different way exists.

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@ 1:55pm

Sadly one of your most used words, you’re well known for you nasty comments and you’ve had plenty bitchy comments about the moderator as well as others so you wont be missed so don’t bother ya nasty aul gossip.

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Latin Mass in St Bridgid’s. ‘BRIDGID’S’?
What? Have the Scotch no saints of their own?
A rough, unholy lot, the SCOTCH.

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Your Scottish correspondent, wee Richie Lynas, is wrong about Pilate. It wasn’t that he didn’t ‘wait’ for an answer : it was that Jesus didn’t give him one.
What else is wee Richie wrong about? There’s bound to be more. He’s too chummy with Dunn.

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Respect for Stephen Dunn ‘OCCASIONALLY’? Says it all. Even Dunn’s cheerleader, Lynas, was pushed to tell that porkie. Dunn is a loathsome piece of work, and Lynas knows it.

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Hello! I’m Slo and I’m 15 and I’m establishing a personal religion/spirituality for myself (for myself only-I do not want to convert people) and I look up to you very much. My spirituality/personal faith believes that action figures have souls and I want to establish a church for them in my house. I want to become a priest of my religion and I need someone to ordain me. I was wondering if you could ordain me as a bishop of my religion by saying a blessing for me in a comment here. It would be an honor if you did as we worship the same God.

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5.36: Are you sure your name isn’t SLOW, not Slo? How utterly silly, stupid and ridiculou! You’re a minor at 15 and to go anywhere near you would be transgressing boundaries, which is a criminal offence. What stupidity! Put on your pyjamas and have a fantasy dream…

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‘transgressing boundaries, which is a criminal offence’
Please show us the crossing boundaries law. Do you mean that one where you can get deported?

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Bishop Pat, please could you have a read of this?
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Doesn’t understand people: Paul Greatorex put a condition on my offer for compensation and for an apology that I had to agree to the amount offered and, if I complained to the Legal Ombudsman, I would lose it. This was not in the original offer from 11KB. After I told him I would complain to the Ombudsman, he wanted to apologise in person or over the phone: from night to day, he went from not wanting to apologise unless I gave up my claim, to wanting to apologise in person, presumably because he thought that this would make me give up my claim. I told him that this felt like an insincere apology. The he went on to write me a email with a vague and generic “I apologise” at the top and bottom with 5 paragraphs in-between detailing why what he did was right and it was all my fault. That is his understanding of an apology! I don’t think he understands people at all.
https://dobetteracademia.co.uk/index.php/resources/education-lawyers-public-access-barristers-reviews/85-lawyers-reviews/81-paul-greatorex-barrister-of-11-kings-bench-walk-review

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I love days like this when the trolls really troll the blog but just make even clearer what utter c…. they are.

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5.50: You’re not the brightest spark somehow! I imagine you’ve received no proper education. Plonker.

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8:59 I’ve got an education alright. But why would I waste it on cultists who wouldn’t understand? 😂

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The diocese of Killaloe has a new vocations video. Its production values are very dated, like something made in the 1980s.

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Take the risk for Christ??😅 I love it when Romanists say this stuff…and then pledge obedience not to Christ, mind, but to a bloated buffoon and protector of kiddie-fiddlers in a very funny hat.
It’s the way they don’t tell ’em, like.

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6.56
Another egregiousinstance of the weaponising of the horrendous crime of CSA from someone who cares nothing aboy victims or the issue itself but uses it to feed his insatiable rage at having been involuntaried retired from his chosen path in life.

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Strange, ‘Father’, that it was people like you who weaponised Canon Law, so that kiddie-fiddling by people…why, by people like you…could go on in the…what were those words?… ‘utmost secrecy’. Was this it?

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8.02: Pat, why are you allowing 6.56 repeat his hate inciting, offensive and ignorant almost every day – MC – Surely you yourself must realise the horrendous ugliness and hate in his words! It’s an appealing abuse which you tolerate, sadly. As a result of TD’s receiving similar offensive, ugly trolling the government is about to sign into law, soon hopefully, a bill outlawing your kind of hate speech, violent narratives and harassment. Sometimes you are as thick as two planks!!

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This is nearly as funny as the comment a while ago threatening the blog with the European Court. This despite the blog author being based in the UK, which isn’t in Europe and the host being based in the US, which also isn’t in Europe.
This is nearly as funny as when they were ranting that a married police officer who was having an affair with a priest, should be reported to his superiors, as if they’d be interested.
You really can’t fix stupid.

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If TD’s families were being endangered by the RC they’d be quick enough to finally do something constructive about stopping the rot. It doesn’t affect them because many of them have clerics in their families etc., so they don’t care. Clerics and their members target vulnerable members of society as there’s a higher chance of getting away with their crimes.

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7:56
“It’s an appealing abuse”…Yes, the truth cannot be hidden. Why conflate ‘appealing’ truth with government so called hate speech violent narratives and harrassment. Some of your clerical colleagues are outstanding examples of abusive bullying slanders but such abusiveness is deemed ok when doled out by those wearing clerical collars, even though nowadays most don’t wear clerical collars out of fear. Take the two planks out of your own eyes!!!

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7.56: Whow! Whow! Don’t think that’ll shake Pat. But, you never know, especially if such commentary as allowed may constitute incitement to hatred. Watch our government.

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Well there’s been an uptick in the rage this evening, hasn’t there.
But the fruit of the spirit is gentleness and self control.

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