
the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles
Very recently on the blog, I was challenged to define what integrity was – as I use the word often.
THE QUALITY OF BEING HONEST
Being honest like so many things starts within.
Internal honesty means being in touch with my real self – knowing and acknowledging all my strengths and all my weaknesses.
The people who are “problematic” in society and in community are often the same people who are internally immature, underdeveloped, and non integrated. In simple words , they are not in touch with their real inner selves and have an unrealistic notion of who and what they are.
This problem is very visible in younger priests and seminarians.
In Alcoholics Anonymous, such people are often described as engaging in STINKING THINKING.
Externally, having honesty or integrity involves speaking honestly and acting honestly.
A bishop or priest who fails to speak and act honestly with his colleagues and with others DOES NOT have integrity.
Sadly, speaking and acting honestly is the last thing we can expect from the majority of RCC bishops and priests.
In fact, we expect and get the very opposite 😞
This is proven by:
1. The international sexual abuse pandemic totally swamping the RCC.
2. The international cover-up of sexual abuse in the RCC.
3. The international corruption of the RCC.
4. The international cover-up of the universal corruption in the RCC.
HAVING STRONG MORAL PRINCIPLES
Do we see STRONG MORAL PRINCIPLES on display in the RCC internationally and in Ireland and the UK?
1. Francis’ handling of the Argentinian Bishop Zanchetta homo scandal.
2. The Vatican’s London property scandal.
3. The Mc Carrick scandal in the USA.
4. The Canadian indigenous children’s scandal.
5. The Tuam Babies scandal.
6. The Magdalen Laundries scandal.
7. The Dublin, Ferns and Cloyne reports.
THE IRISH / ENGLISH / SCOTTISH CHARACTERS
Bishop Eamon Casey.
Fr Micael Cleary.
Fr Brendan Smyth – Norbertine Order.
Fr Dominic Savio – Capuchin Order.
Fr Ivan Payne, etc . Dublin.
Fr Sean Fortune, etc – Ferns.
The 2016 Maynooth Summer of Love.
Coyle, Mc Veigh, Mc Camley, Mc Aleer, etc. Armagh.
King Puck of Kerry.
Ger Fitzgerald of Kilkaloe.
Silverstream Priory of Meath.
Ricard Purcell – the Cistercians.
John Paul Power Bottom Lyttle – Portsmouth.
Scotland’s Daisy Chain.
Etc
Etc
Etc
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And the saddest thing is they have to have this explained to them, and still won’t believe people (not them) have integrity!
Your clerical trolls display their stunted personalities, some of which verge on actual personality disorders, on the blog day in day out.
What kind of fuckwit would look to them for moral leadership? They can’t even believe other people are telling the truth because they don’t themselves!
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Wow! What an uncannily accurate comment! You hit the bullseye: they don’t believe others have integrity, because they themselves don’t know what the he’ll is.
I have aske others that very question: why do you turn to these men for moral guidance and spiritual leadership?
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11.00 and 1.06 replying to himself during the early hours.
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Cathbot at 11:02 reinforcing 11:00’s point.
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Typing got worse between 11.00pm and 1.06am. I wonder why that might be? 🤔🥃👀
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1:03 Your skills at implication are second to none Fathers & Co. No wonder you are so big and powerful in financial terms. Sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you. Keep ignoring calls for justice from victims and survivors and time goes by and it waits for no man, they will eventually shut up and die and the church will do for your day or will it…….. The best laid plans………
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Precisely, 1:35.
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1.35 and echo at 1.43, a repeat occurrence of the echo phenomenon of the early hours. If the commenter got any sleep between, there’s no indication it was of any benefit.
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I.03
Touché!
Difficult to imagine someone propping up their own comment with a wow and ‘uncannily accurate.’
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Bishop Joe Duffy is the originator of the saying, “the Church will do for our day”. Old Joe is still gping strong so it turns out he was right, it’ll see him out and give him a decent burial and his successors in afew years will turn out the lights, close the curtains and lock the doors for good.
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1:35 the devil is in the detail. Get over yourself.
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Elsie at IICSA displayed an astonishing lack of credibility and integrity when he said that he was beginning to ‘get it’ regarding the trauma of child abuse but the report concluded he preferred to protect the church’s reputation above victims.
Nursie displayed an astonishing lack on integrity when he admitted he didn’t pen letters to victims of child abuse but the diocesan insurers.
Pope Francis is a living, walking, breathing bundle of a complete lack in integrity- he talks but he doesn’t walk, he says one thing, does another – Chelsea property deal, sucking up to China, protecting shady clergy by moving them to the Batican, on and on and on.
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Fr Michael Seed was exposed by the Daily Mail for selling Papal Knighthoods for cash.
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You are correct up to a point. However, fr Michael did a lot of good work for the homeless in central London. He also did a lot of good work for inter religious relations. He broke down barriers.
The cash would have been used for the homeless, the passage day centre and getting poor souls back into society and work. You need to tell the whole story. The man led a very simple life.
The line was crossed by him albeit the intentions were good.
The cash was not for his personal benefit.
How much help do you do for the homeless and disadvantaged?
Be fair.
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May 5, 2023 at 12:01 pm
You are as bad as Francis. When a crime is committed, trying to lessen the lack of integrity by pointing out one’s good points, does not alleviative responsibility for said crime.
Michael seems to be fond of the bottle, it difficult to find a picture where he is not holding a glass of wine in his hand. Led a very simple life!! You are joking aren’t you? He Laps up all the attention fawned upon him.
Another one who thinks his s–t doesn’t stink. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.
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12:01 You are deliberately missing the core point. Fr Michael Seed specifically used his role as a priest and he exploited the gullibility of innocent religious people who were vulnerable and who handed over money to Fr Michael Seed who was fraudulently acting under false pretences using his position in the Roman Catholic Church as a decoy to facilitate his heinous deceptions. As Fr Seed was proved to be a common thief and a criminal, there is no basis for your false and self serving allegation that Fr Seed would pass his ill gotten gains to the poor or needy.
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1:41 If someone misses your, rather than the, core point they’re telling you your core point is irrelevant and orientating you to reality.
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At the time, I read Miss Seed gave a Chinese woman a cheque for £35,000, and she put it in her account, but neither she nor Miss Seed could explain why. The Chinese woman was an adviser to David Cameron.
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Daily Fail, you mean.
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The RCC is a total fraud and evil outfit whose only goals are to fleece people in every way possible while masquerading as a religious outfit and the pursuit/retention of power over people. It is an outfit devoid of integrity and morals
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12:18 We don’t know the half of it yet, there’s a lot more facts and truths to come out no doubt. Fewer and fewer people are willing to continue to suffer being intimidated into silence to suit the church agenda. It is time for them to speak out and receive justice before it is too late.
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𝑰𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒍𝒅 𝒔𝒆𝒙 𝒂𝒃𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓-𝒖𝒑 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒑 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒊𝒄𝒆𝒃𝒆𝒓𝒈? 𝐀 𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐓𝐮𝐬𝐥𝐚 𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐞𝐟 𝐄𝐱𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐁𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐆𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫, 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐞𝐟 𝐄𝐱𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐒𝐄 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟗 𝐬𝐚𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐬 “𝐧𝐨 𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐬” 𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐭 𝐒𝐭 𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 𝐀𝐦𝐛𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐠𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐃𝐫 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐲 𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝 𝐚𝐛𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐚𝐬𝐭, 𝐚𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐚𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐩𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬.
A report published today by report from Dr Shannon following his independent investigation into St John Ambulance Service says there was a “significant degree of organisational awareness” of the dangers posed by a former senior officer in the Old Kilmainham division in Dublin who is alleged to have sexually abused more than 15 boys in the organisation, between the late 1960s and late 1990s.
The report says there was “failures at a systemic level” when it came to child protection, with the organisation’s structures facilitating “grooming and predatory behaviour”.
Internal correspondence, seen by The Irish Times, shows Tusla previously gave St John Ambulance a clean bill of health, when concerns about past abuse were raised by a TD.
As Fianna Fáil Opposition spokeswoman for children, Minister of State Anne Rabbitte had privately written to then minister for children Katherine Zappone in 2019, after meeting three men abused by the former senior figure in St John Ambulance.
In a 5th December 2019 response, Bernard Gloster, then-Tusla chief executive, assured Ms Rabbitte past alleged abuse had not been widespread.
Tusla had previously conducted an investigation into disclosures from two of the survivors, and deemed their child sex abuse allegations made against the former senior figure to be “founded”.
Mr Gloster said a senior social worker had reviewed records in the Dublin Mid-Leinster region and had not found any further reports of past alleged abuse in the organisation.
“Therefore all available information suggests that there is no evidence of systemic or organisational abuse within St John Ambulance,” he wrote.
Gloster said he had been advised “that there are no current concerns” with standards in the organisation. He also stated that Tusla officials had reviewed its child safeguarding statement and deemed St John Ambulance to be compliant.
Dr Shannon’s report published today concludes that St John Ambulance still does not have a finalised child protection policy. This contradicts the assurances given by Bernard Gloster in 2019.
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Mixed messages confuse the masses.
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8:23 Confusion is another integral piece of kit in the well stocked tool box used by the RC Mafia & its entities.
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There are some very challenging meanings to the word INTEGRITY. It’s a word that misused and bandied about all too easily. Primarily its about being a trustworthy person : Your word is your bond. Its a out loyalty to truth and justice. Its about always seeking to do what right, just and acceptable in the eyes of Gid. Irs about truth and never equivocation in truth or more principals. IN gospel language it’s being “salt of the earth”, people who make a positive difference to life and others buying the gospel. People who are truly.their best, kind and caring selves, with a humble spirit and no pride or praise needed. We’ve net people who attain some or most of these traits. My parents, gr abhorrent and grandparents were of this genre but quietly taught us through morals and values that they defined as correct, primarily Catholic In origin. We thank Gid for thus teaching by examen. I was also shaped by people of great moral and Christian integrity through college and in pastoral assignments. Some staff inspired a little. Some students too bht I’ve Bern.blessed to encounter truly good peolpe of gospel integrity ebo shamed my by their living. I suspect we all have some aspect of I territory. I’d be loathe to say there are thousands of priests who are unpossesdinh on integrity. I know many of an older age profile who taught me many wise lesdi s a out the things that tr mattered about priesthood. The particular quality that brought me to them was what I believed was the meir integrity of life and good example. These men gave me wise spiritual advice. They have passed on now but I reclall them in prayer coccassionally. Really at the end of the day there’s a crazy mix in all of us, some hood, laudable, some awful and destructive. Perhaps another person beyond our own assessment might speak more truthfully than we will about ourselves!!
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I think even Jesus would have trouble in measuring up to your standards.
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12:32
You sound like yesterdays 11:32am poster albeit disguised? Then again, maybe not. Are you grappling with cognitive dissonance over exposure of RCC corruption, etc?
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12.30:: I don’t know how I posted my comment as it turned out before corrections. A gremlin got in somewhere!! Thankfully, I have no dissonance of any kind.. just should have commented sitting up instead of lying, almost asleep! Keep well and be vigilant always.
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12:51
Will do.
You didn’t mention if you posted at 11:32am yesterday?
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12:30 Bingo
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12:32 & 12:51
Father went back to bed.
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INTEGRITY: doing the right thing when no-one is watching……..
NOT EVEN GOD !
MMM
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According to mournful mason mick.
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@ 8:02: Instead of your puerile ad hominem snort, maybe think through the implications of my comment.
It infers that integrity is to do the right thing BECAUSE it is the right thing: not because some allseeing sky-fairy Godfellah is scrutinising for missteps to punish.
Some might say that’s more meritorious than fearful compliance with admonitions of dubious origins written by ancients who didn’t even know where the sun went at night, …….and in the hope of receiving post mortem goodies.
MMM
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Doing the right thing because it’s the right thing to do goes without saying. The historical background of Freemasonic codology was
also written by ancients also who didn’t know where the sun went at night. ‘Sky-fairy Godfellah’ !! How much theology did you study in Maynooth?
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Clerical celibacy as a discipline lacks all integrity today – a device to cover up homosexuality, child abuse and is by its v nature hypocrisy.
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I’m genuinely puzzled. How is clerical celibacy meant to discipline a man? I know they call it a ‘discipline’, but what makes it a discipline, and how?
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Am I irrelevant?
Can someone please answer? Why is clerical celibacy called a ‘discipline’? It appears the exact opposite, causing a great deal of indiscipline among priests.
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hi! I sent you an email
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Integrity is dealing with issues as an adult, not ignoring or blocking people off etc
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Pope Francis and his colleagues should grow up and reply to the vast quantities of unacknowledged correspondence on their desks.
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The only place to engage with a criminal is in a recorded police interview room. You should try it sometime.
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Many people might look and sound adult but are not adult.
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This isn’t a problem for priests, obviously.
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4:16
Priests are omnicompentent.
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As has been said on this blog before: you can tell the substance of a bishop by looking at the people he surrounds himself with.
Look at the VG, EV, Canons, COO (£100K+) do you see any integrity?
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What operations are performed by COO to merit 100K+?
Brain surgery?
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Fathers, if you’re going to bitch that the bishop is incompetent you can’t reasonably also moan because he employs a chief operating officer at the going rate.
Because that looks strikingly like self awareness and integrity, which is the thing you’re missing here (unsurprisingly). 😂
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The going rate doing what?
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Who decided the going rate for a COO in RCC was 100K+ ?
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Thanks, 9:01, for telling us you’ve never had a job. 🤣
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9:01 Church contracts have always been very lucrative and continue to be comprehensively utilised to purchase varying categories of complicity, defence and loyalty. Open your eyes 👀
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10:30
I’m beginning to lose the will to live; where did the 100K+going rate for an Ecclesiastical COO come from- was it from the NGO sector or statutory health sector, or what?
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12:15 Who are you? What power do you have to do anything about financial or any other irregularities in the Roman Catholic Church? Or are you just some crook from the RC trying to work out how much is known ?
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1:48
I am who I am? Who are you? Why do you want to know, why I want to know, who determined the 100K+ going rate for an Ecclesiastical COO?
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I looked at the salary of the Chief Operating Officer of the BBC. It’s £400k, (ie 4 times the salary of the Portsmouth COO). However, the BBC is the largest broadcaster in the world, with a budget of £5.3 billion and over 21k staff across multiple divisions and with countless channels, websites, assets and international bureaux. I dont think that the COO of Portsmouth responsibilities are comparable to or for anything like a quarter of the BBC COO’s responsibilities, but the Portsmouth COO insanely is paid a quarter of her BBC counterpart’s salary.
https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whoweare/leigh-tavaziva/
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The COO of the British Army, and the COO of the NHS, each earn £100,000, which is the same salary as Mrs Hauschild, the COO of Portsmouth Diocese. Either they are grossly underpaid or she is grossly overpaid.
https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salaries/chief-operating-officer-salary-SRCH_KO0,23_IP2.htm
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2:22 I’m getting dizzy now!
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6:44
Alright then? What has ye dizzy? Were ye playing theft and shrubbery?
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Still playing cops & robbers we see.
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9/46PM
I AM watching
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This is a very interesting topic which might explain to a considerable extent what is at the heart of RCC corruption pandemic. Authenticity, being real or true to oneself, and self in relation to others, is a core existential theme for everyone, including those considered ontologically altered. Communicating and relating are core characteristics of relationships. However our relationship with self is a key issue in life. The quality of relationship we have with ourselves is mirrored in the quality of relationships we have with others. Self-ownership, honesty, acceptance, etc, and authentically owning and expressing internalised integrated guiding moral principles and values are essential components of authentic living, not simply because an authority figure in Church State or Establishment says so. Christians are called to ground themselves in the Gospels and tasked to take on the mind of Christ. It seems to me, many of the blog stars lead duplicitous inauthentic hypocritical lives. Why take such individuals seriously when they lack credibility?
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What a pretentious post!
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8:46 Some people can obviously mentate and others (👀) obviously cannot and don’t understand it.
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8:46
Are you one of the blogs duplicitous stars?
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9.53
‘Mentate’? Seriously? More pretension.
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1:29
Are you one of the blogs duplicitous stars?
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1:29 The intelligent look up words they don’t understand when the better-read than them use them.
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1.43
You mean ‘the better read than they.’ Do you notice the irony of your comment?
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4:19 No, I’m not as pretentious as what you are, Hyacinth.
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Actually, the post is based on years of intellectual mastication due to abuse perpetuated by a clerical lackey with a major conflict of interest.
It is based on real life existential experience thanks to RCC substantial unholy underbelly which seems to be distending at a phenomenal rate.
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Unsurprisingly, the Tablet reported the whitewash report in purely factual terms and without analysis or discussion of its shortcomings. In fact, they more or less just repeated the diocese’s statement. At least the BBC had the integrity to provide a more balanced summary, including criticisms of the findings.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-65479927.amp
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Why is it that priests talk about the Love of God and living a simple life of caring about each others and that you cannot take your material wealth with you to the grave ? Most often than not you will find that the priest comes from a wealthy background with loved members in the banking sector farming sector political sector and media sector?
Far removed from the life of his congregation that he preaches to.
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7.58am: That was once upon a time in the distant past. Not anymore as we’ve not had many vocations for 25 years or thereabouts! Come into the 21st century.
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No you are wrong. Many of the priests working in parishes today are from wealthy backgrounds while the poorer priests went to preach on the missions.
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9:08 you are correct, priests from lower socio economic backgrounds are placed in socially challenging parishes. Meanwhile, priests from the well connected backgrounds you mention are gifted roles in parishes where they work hard to further and secure the interests of their wealthy connections and financiers. The church is a class conscious cut throat business. It probably always was, illiterate or semi literate poor people provided profitable fodder for the holy ones in the past, they raped them, sold their babies to the highest Irish American bidder, forged identification and travel documents with the aid of compliant civil servants and Irish airline. Modern day communications have enlightened the masses, excuse the pun! In short, the masses are running in fear in the opposite direction and who could blame them.
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Hard to believe some of those names on your list carry on regardless.. Silverstream, Kerry,Mount Mellary. Enabled by bishops Deenihan, Martin, Phonsie..Further outlook no change..
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8:04 it’s murder on the dance floor
Roll out Fr Jerry Carey he is missed.
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10:23 Was himself a mover?
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12:42 he could dance on a plate as they’d say at the Willie Clancy. You should see him on a bar table in Paris!
The memory will remain with us for the rest of our lives! He loved to dress up as well.
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1:59
OoH La La! Such memories to treasure…!!
Was he dancing the Can-can, or Suzi Quatro’s, Can the Can?
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8:04 is it correct that Rev Mark Moriarty is being treated to a junket to America? Will he be the next cleric using a variety of alias to travel from one Roman Catholic outpost to the next and housed and financed by the Roman Catholic hierarchy who confirm their ongoing addiction to blatantly endangering innocent members of the public who may come into contact with devious RC members in school, church, hospital or other settings. There are so many clerics and church workers who should be signing on at least weekly at their local police stations but this is not happening. There is zero accountability and the Roman Catholic Church demonstrates on an hourly basis worldwide that it won’t willingly change its ways or be held accountable yet it expects to grow and thrive. Why are international policing authorities failing to curb this criminal organisation and its entities?????????
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33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, swear an oath to obey your bishop but keep a mental reservation. 36 And do not swear to be celibate because it’s most unfair if they expect you to be celibate if you haven’t sworn an oath. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; but if they expect you to mean it they’re from the evil one, because everyone tells fibs, right?
This is the cathbot gospel of the Lord!
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That just about sums up these twisted, deceitful, useless, parasitical moochers.
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Cathbottery at its best.
Lol
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8.15
Two echos no less.
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No fewer.
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Ah two more echoes no more than two muppeteers.
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Integrity. Not a word these days we associate with the Church or with clergy. Once it was the priest that you went to and talked to about what worried you, and confided your innermost concerns and secrets. Not now. This sea change in our trust in the clergy and their integrity has been huge and is unlikely to be restored. We now trust and see integrity in other institutions, organisations, professionals and people. At a personal level, I think we have see so much dishonesty and duplicity as well as criminality in individual priests that we now find ourselves double thinking and guessing about any priest we meet. What is he really up to, when no-one is watching ? Is what we see what we are really getting ? Previously, we just wouldn’t have even asked these questions. As to the Church, I was brought up to believe that the Church did not / could. not err. Now, I forensically examine and question everything that the Church says, so much do I mistrust it, its motives and its actions. The counter argument is, how would my / your life stand up to inspection ? Would I / you be seen as a person of integrity ? Probably not, for we are all fallen and sinful and compromised. However, I / you, as lay people, do not set ourselves up to be people of integrity, publicly taking vows and promises about the integrity of our lives and our desire to live an honest life in accordance with what we are promising, and then go off and live a parallel and duplicitous life of lies in the shadows. That’s the difference.
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Exactly. Thank you.
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Well said. I couldn’t agree more. You have spoken for me and so many others. I don’t expect priests to be perfect. We are all human and err but it is the fact they stand up and preach with authority, telling me how to live a better life when they themselves are leading questionable lives. It has taken many years for me to find peace with my conscience and live my life believing in God and his Blessed Mother but without the guilt of the indoctrination of the Catholic Church.
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Well done.
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Bishops are appointed on their capacity to lack integrity and be duplicitous and hypocritical when called upon.
Oakley knows and knew Oscott is a gay haven where staff sleep with seminarians but for the reward of a bishopric he kept stum and covered up – perfect bishop material.
Stock is the same – he ordains men who boasts of their civil partnership and thinks he’s so on message when he is really a bitter, depressed, angry insomniac who does ‘’his Nibbs’ (that’s what he calls Elsie) bidding no doubt for 30 pieces of silver I mean a bishop prick.
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As I said to my brother some time ago.. I have as must faith in the clergy as I have Boris Johnson.
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9:50 Not even Boris deserves to be dragged down to the level of these unscrupulous and scurrilous money and child fiddlers and their nasty protectors found in the highest and lowest of places.
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Boris can at least be relied on to lie continually so in that sense is more worthy of faith. I still don’t understand how he manages to attract women though.
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10:58 Simple answer
Boris is not a priest!
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2:11 Exactly, that’s why he’s more trustworthy.
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2:11
Are you certain..?
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Is the comment at 12:32 the first trolling by AI?
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Your reminder that the cultists have so little understanding of integrity that at the mere mention of it they assume it must be AI or someone who has left their cult
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What’s AI? Genuine question.
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) is intelligence demonstrated by machines, as opposed to the natural intelligence displayed by humans and animals. AI is a set of technologies that enable computers to perform a variety of advanced functions, including the ability to see, understand and translate spoken and written language, analyze data, make recommendations, and more. AI can be classified into three categories: narrow or weak AI, general or strong AI, and super AI.
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Thank you.
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Everyone, according to Romans had gone astray and no one is righteous and integrity has fled.
However the clerical state since the time of Peter Damian to Charles Borremeo to Luther the true Catholic and great Reformer have pointed to the lack of integrity so integral to the clerical state: today people identify the clerical state with:
Homosexuality ((active) (orientation isn’t a problem except teaching says don’t admit homosexuals to the priesthood- in itself illegal) so complete lack of integrity.
Money: priests always make out their poor and have no money – hence Christmas and Easter collection) but this is total bollox they are loaded and take the widows mite without a blush.
Cover up: like the Mafia they have an Omertà (pontifical secret) and protect clerical sexual predators and other criminals (finance).
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The passage from Romans you quote is one that we see the holy ones twist (because they have no integrity) all the time. It is, anyway, irrelevant when someone says the Roman ‘church’ has a problem with abuse to say other churches or society also have, and implies that nobody should do anything about it. It is the same faulty argument they use to try to stop people criticising their cult when they say nobody is perfect, or Pat Buckley thinks he’s perfect, etc.
In fact the primary meaning of the passage isn’t even to say that we are all sinners. The whole sentence actually says,
‘There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.’
The whole point is actually to say that there is now no difference in redemption between Jew and Gentile!
How lacking in integrity would you have to be to twist that into meaning ‘Pat Buckley can’t criticize us because he’s a sinner’????
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11:07 Shouldn’t you be meeting your work coach at the JBO instead of cutting and pasting stuff from Wikipedia?
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1:07 You mean you type out the same crap every day? 🤣
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Excellent exegesis and social commentary there.
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1:07 is that what there doing? But why is it bothering you if they are? The truth is a nuisance to your types evidently.
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Why are Killaloe and other clerics with “form” being accommodated at this fee paying boys boarding school? Here we go again.
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10:53 It also crossed my mind.
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Shane Costello is getting on like a house on fire. He is a credit to the future of our church in Ireland. A shining light in the darkness.
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Your information is incorrect, it’s Padraig Costello here in Foxford you mean?
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You didn’t mention the Christian brothers who were requested to appear before a judge in Dublin the other week. The new head of the order sent his legal team instead. Also the brothers of charity who abused vulnerable young children and adults over many decades. They own substantial properties in Galway. The de la salle brothers who seem to be bankrupted. The list goes on and on…not to mention the sisters…
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12:56 Don’t take on the church we can afford expensive lawyers, get it.
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What’s the latest, Patsy?
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@ 1:15pm
Now who can be asking you to change the topic of today’s blog is it perhaps the aul gossip? desperate for more.
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Some of us care deeply about our parishes and don’t want corrupt priests, deviant seminarians, capitalist administrators, and wife beating undertakers in amongst us.
Drain the swamp.
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5:18
You, of course. Out fishing..?
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6:57
Hear! Hear!
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I think integrity is honesty, owning up when you find yourself responsible for doing something wrong or, unacceptable, or being part of such a case, whether it be intentional or accidental, and not covering up for others when a serious misdemeanour or crime is committed, or, witnessed.
If we don’t know or understand what lack of integrity is, look no further than the Roman Catholic hierarchy, we find it in abundance, they are masters of duplicity.
Not only the RCC, it is alive and flourishing. indeed prospering, in every religious denomination.
In fact we are all capable of dishonesty. I doubt if there is a person who has not being a liar at some time in their lives, even very young children lie. Both children and adults. lie to avoid punishment
We le to protect ourselves or others from harm, to maintain privacy, and avoid embarrassment.
Unfortunately having integrity/ being honest is frequently neither appreciated, nor rewarded, quite the opposite, there can be a backlash and, the person involved may even find themselves ostracised, or never promoted, or punished in some other way, whether in secular or religious life.
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💯
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Excellent comment.
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Great post,QP.
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@6:57pm
You don’t have much to worry about, where you are, it’s all about gambling priests spending parish money. You have no seminarians and since you’re miles away from Cathkin in that downmarket dump on the coast, the wife beating undertaker is nowhere near you. There are of course plenty of swamps near you badly needing drained, watch you don’t fall in.😏
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@ 6:46
Are you making a threat?
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This is old news
Priests and the hierarchy have never possessed any integrity about where their vast wealth originates.
Their number one focus lies in protecting that wealth including its origins and ongoing sources
This was never more prevalent than it is today.
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It’s nearly 2 o’clock and there are significantly fewer comments than yesterday. It’s almost as if the unholy ones can’t engage with the subject today because they don’t understand it.
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1:45 they don’t like dirty words like INTEGRITY and it’s Boiler House night tomorrow, busy getting ready for the weekend don’t you know. Not easy fitting in the weekend shenanigans with the weekend pisstake schedule to extract funds from the gig enablers in the pews.
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You know something, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
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@1:45pm
Most people don’t want to engage with unholy ejits like you who haven’t a clue about integrity and just want to moan about people with a different point of view to yours.
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2:37 : Are you trying to tell us you’re a holy ejit?
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2.37
Is THAT what clerical duplicity, hypocrisy, and lack of moral integrity is? A different point of view? 😅
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anon at 1.45pm
I did comment on today but it wasnt posted .
I have no complaints cos its not my blog as its somebody else.
As i realised it in last few weeks that it doesnt appeal to me anymore as i would be better off doing something else.
Thats why i wont be here at end of this year with no regrets. Its like a salt losing its flavour etc.
CTS gone this summer and this blog when,who knows?
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Reply to;Deaf guysays:
May 5, 2023 at 5:20 pm
Deaf Guy, how many times have you promised to leave this blog, you are funny, and also continue to pop up like that breakfast cereal, it wouldn’t be the same without you. Forgive and forget
Don’t be offended when your contribution does not appear.
We’ll hear from you soon, I am sure.
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Queenievenus said:
‘trying to lessen the lack of integrity by pointing out one’s good points, does not alleviative responsibility for said crime.’
It’s them rehearsing to say in court that they have a previously unblemished record, which of course means their previous crimes haven’t been discovered yet.
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@ 4:07pm
No it’s just THAT people like you who are duplicitious hypocrites with no moral integrity like to think you have. 😏
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5:19
Your post says EveryThing about you.
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QP AT 5.45pm
im not offended if my post doesn’t appear as Im way past that now.
Life is short, no need for petty arguments. I can take it on my chin.
Its just that it lost appeal just like salt lose it’s flavour for sake of analogy.
I’m trying to quit this blog despite my weakness re occasionally pop up in this blog. But it gained more traction in my mind.
Requiring to post it in this blog isnt necessary for me just when I see a comment that boiled 🔥me. Then I put down my comment to counter that. That’s silly and petty argument. Best to stand and watch it read and let it go past me.
LOL re breakfast cereal as I laughed 🤣🤣. Good one.
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Perverting the course of justice and bearing false witness is a very serious matter………
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Why expect justice when integrity is scoffed at by so many in Episcopal leadership positions.
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@ 5:19pm
Thanks Nettie I know it does, I’m fabulous. Cheers!😂😂😂
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7:03
You’re anything but fabulous answering you’re own posts.
You must be getting desperate.
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Listening to Marie Collins on RTE lunch time news would not give any confidence in the ‘integrity’ of the Pope’s commission on abuse which is meeting in Rome this week.
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Both abuse survivors, Peter Sanford AND Marie Collins resigned from that infamous commission, followed by the Jesuit, Fr Hans Zollner. Why? Because Frankie’s commission was overloaded with integrity.
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@ 7:23pm
Unlike you I don’t answer my own posts, my contemporary Patsy can confirm. So if anyone is desperate it’s you.
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10:22
How old are you,44/45?
How could Bishop Pat be your contemporary?
Are you MIA? Your desperate you, Berk!
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Who could believe a word PHIL EGAN and his £100k+++ COO have to say? Priest Retirement Fund, School Buildings Fund, letter from the Charity Commission, JPL – all lies, innuendo and duplicitous nonsense. No integrity in PORTSMOUTH!
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Pope’s abuse commission meets amid turmoil, facing calls for greater transparency.
Former member appeals to Pope Francis to launch an external review of commission.
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Nottingham diocese are advertising for a COO at £35K less than Portsmouth. No Chief Operating Officer is worth £100K+++ not even MEEEGAIN herself.
If a bishop cannot fulfil the office he should resign. Its that simple.
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2:29 Big difference in the COO so-called going rate.
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Cf priests’ salaries in the UK and US. 😂
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A street preacher in Newtownards today said that after death, judgement immediately follows and that there will be no opportunity given to the person to speak or to defend themselves or to explain their life. It will be too late by then, he said. Does this accord with the teaching of the Church or is it Protestant nonsense?
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2:30 How is it possible that you are so woefully ignorant of holy mother church’s teaching? That’s a terrible indictment of the catechesis you’ve received. Smh
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I notice you didn’t answer his or her question. So, presumably, you don’t know the answer, which suggests that your standard of catechesis is no better, 3.56.
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4:15 People have reasons not to be catechised and it’s not for you to interfere. For example nobody in my family has been to catechism since three members of the same generation were all raped by two priests using a catechism class as a cover.
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Our Lady of Bayside says that so it must be true.
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Most Catholics are ignorant of Anglican theology (though admittedly arriving on a settled Anglican view on anything is like herding cats, nailing jelly to the wall or getting a joke out of MMM. If you ask two Anglicans for a view on something you get five different opinions.
However, as far as I can tell, the Anglicans and Methodists have very strange ideas about the afterlife. For them, Hades, or the place of the dead, is represented as a spacious receptacle with gates, through which the dead enter. This space is divided into Paradise and Gehenna but with an impassable gulf between the two. Souls, with exception of martyrs and saints, remain in Hades until the Final Judgment, when they get their final reward or are sent everlastingly to Hell.
Catholics, on the other hand, teach that there is a personal judgement at the moment of death, with the soul going immediately to Heaven, Pugatory or Hell. I would have asked the street preacher where the Paraclete fitted into his preaching.
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6:47 confirming the idea of cathbotism given in every Protestant Truth Society pamphlet ever. 😂
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Bayside is totally and completely false apparition.
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2.30
Fact is NO ONE, not even the dogmatic and autocratic Romanists, know what happens to a person immediately after death, and beyond. Expressed certitudes on the subject, whether Romanist or otherwise, are actually theological pretensions, and entirely speculative. They may, or may not, be right, therefore
What we ARE certain of is that God so loved the world that he gave his only son for the world. There is only one God, and it was God who died on Calvary that day, in the person of Jesus. Jesus did not suffer alone there.
God is loving, merciful, and just. And it is as much an act of mercy as it is justice that he would try, both before AND after death, to draw to himself all, even those not fully repentant, but not fully rebelled against God either.
Never understate God’s desire to win over a person. In the end, though, it is the person’s choice. No one is sent by God to the state of Hell, but, sadly, by himself.
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Ex-sem,
Great post.
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4.39
Well said. (from one of your frequent interlocutors.)
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More echoes than Fingal’s Cave.
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This is yet another deliberate evasion tactic by Bishops worldwide and with disastrous consequences for child and vulnerable adult safety. Some vulnerable people still turn to the church and are abused as a consequence.
Anne Barrett Doyle, co-director of the abuse tracking website BishopAccountability.org, said this and other issues are a “resounding validation” of the departures of other Commission members, such as Collins and Saunders.
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A lack of integrity will get you far! A lack of integrity is a cardinal virtue! Just look at those being promoted in your own diocese. Look at those movers and shakers in the Diocese. Look at the various committees and working groups. Look at the Deans, Canons, VG’s. (Look at the COO if you’re unlucky enough to have one). Are they the men admired for working hard, growing parishes, teaching the faith, giving good example? No. Very sadly they’re not. Those few good men are sidelined.
No moral fibre = episcopal ordination! It’s sad and frustrating but that’s what we have. JUDGEMENT will not go easy on those promoting degeneratea for the stumbling blocks they’re placing in the path of others.
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Ms Hauschild if you read this, I’d just like you to know that you’ve got a fan club on this blog, if you’re mere existence can so annoy the wastrel clergy.
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LOLOL
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A COO has no place in the Catholic Church and so the position lacks integrity by its very nature and causes a breakdown of integrity.
To add insult, the eye-watering amounts weak bishops are more than willing to waste (and the COO is willing to receive) lacks integrity in itself.
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The Chief Operating Officer is a diocesan employee. They are not ‘integral’ to the functioning of a Diocese. You’re absolutely right to say that by its very nature, the position of a COO in the church lacks integrity. Any bishop allowing/ needing a COO should hand their crozier back.
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When did the RCC become an NGO?
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In Westminster the present COO began his job as Financial Secretary. His title has changed but he’s basically called Cardinal Camoletto by the clergy. He’s not popular.
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The Ordinary needs to watch out!
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Is Nichols going to the coronation?
Cardinal Parolin is representing Pope Francis.
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Yes, cults never like outsiders being involved.
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6:57
Will someone point Cardinal Parolin in the direction of Bishop Buckleys blog. A perusal of this blog will provide Cardinal Parolin with a unique education on Ecclesiastical shenanigans in Britain and Ireland.
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Outstanding issues involving Bishop Fintan Monahan:
* St. Flannan’s shenanigans.
* Fr Ger Fitzgerald
* Fr Jerry Carry
* Killaloe MIA’s
* Fr Arnie in Shannon
* Alleged Killaloe Diocese Data Protection Breaches involving minors still under investigation.
Feel free to add to the list.
Meanwhile, the Limerick Leader has featured Bishop Monahan in Saturday’s paper under the heading: Bishop of Killaloe is a ‘Confirmed’ fan of Tik Tok.
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The hospital will be built in the grounds of St Flannans hospital, Clare County Council said yes so get over it. Job done.
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Objections to any Planning Application granted by a council can be appealed to An Bord Pleanala within 21 days of the date the decision was made by the planning authority in Ireland. This is a strict time limit.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie
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We can only get better if we listen to victims and survivors and act on resolving their concerns. Every day I am reminded that this is not happening.
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5:54 Of course it is not happening. Why is it not happening?
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3:28 no ones fiddling around here luv. Get yar head outta da clouds. Nuttin to see here, move along now.
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6.48 Hope Fintan is enjoying his TikTok success 🎻. Jig jig jig.
Pray For Our Sinners, the recently released Irish documentary about RC abuse, is currently in various cinemas throughout Ireland and can be rented for €5 on this website: https://homecinema.curzon.com/film/pray-for-our-sinners/
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Apologies. Film can be rented for £5.
https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/135288/brilliant-new-documentary-pray-for-our-sinners-illuminates-hope-and-compassion-at-a-time-of-darkness-in-ireland
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You’ve been listening to the clergy too much if you think the almighty and all-knowing creator of the universe would require any justification or explanation from you. He already knows what you would say, knows all your thoughts and motivations and incidentally, is outraged at that thing you do when nobody is looking.
After he’s judged you, you sashay away to your destination. It is de fide that if you’ve ever so much as looked at this blog you have to spend eternity in hell listening to a choir of Unionist ex-seminarians singing Protestant hymns.
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4.11
😂
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During Amy’s ad tem tenure as Director of Sacred Music in Maynooth there was a sharp increase in the use of Proddy hymns, contrary to the Maynooth and Church tradition of privileging chant as the usual musical expression of the Church. He even had Protestant favourites such as ‘When I Survey the Wondrous Cross’ and even Luther’s ‘A Mighty Fortress is our God’. This policy unsettled and annoyed many of the students.
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I’m beginning to (luke) warm (ly) to Archbishop Martin, if he did as you said. Personally, my favourite non-Romanist hymn is What A Friend We Have In Jesus. I love to belt it out, especially with disapproving Romanists around. Yes, it’s wicked, I know. But, then, from what would God redeem me were I not at least a little wicked?😈
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Were you not there in Amy’s time or were you later, Robert?
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Robert McCabe was the organist of Middle Oratory and Niall Ahern hit the roof when Robert played “When the Saints go marching in” at morning prayer on All Saints Day.
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8.45
Is Robert the name of the lapsed ex-seminarian turned Unionist? Which diocese in the north of the country was he going for?
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7.03
Utter nonsense. Eamon was there in that role in the mid to late 80s. That was twenty years since the Council and in English speaking countries the ecumenical movement was growing in momentum in both Mass and LOTH. In fact Eamon did a lot to ensure Latin hymns and motets were frequently used in Maynooth. Some such memorable music, I remember, Attende Domine et miserere; Victimae Paschali Laudes and many mant more.
Your comment is jaundiced and inaccurate.
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7.03
You are merely highlighting how little you know about liturgy, music or Maynooth. A mighty fortress is our God is a metrical version of Psalm 46. In the 1960’s many Catholicparishes were familiar with When I survey.
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HAUSCHILD believes God has called her to be Portsmouth’s COO!!!! She’s convinced herself that it’s her vocation! What a joke. She is something else. If you ever get the chance to hear her speak, snap it up, it’s a laugh and a half!
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4:39 has kindly illustrated how spending time with the cult warps reality for you, even if you’re normal to start off with.
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There are a very few vicious queens in Westminster plotting and saying awful things about you Pat and your partner. I think Vinny has lost all interest and control now. They have always been attacking him too. The pink gin brigade.
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How do you tell them apart from any other priests?
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Is one of them Westminster bitchy queens loosely connected with the Ordinariate that was set up by Benedict?. Sarah Mullally, pretend bishop of London and not tolerant of male Vicars reading the Gospel with Lord Bishop Charters, ex London, and not tolerant of women clergy will be a pantomime/spectacle for us all viewing a pretend church. Built on rot.
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@7.02pm How very generous of you.
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5:16 are they ever out of their cups? You’d get drunk on the whiff of them.
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Integrity would be Fintan Monahan telling us the MIA situation
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Bishop Monahan is busy with Confirmation and other matters at the moment.
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Other matters?
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8.01 Bishop is busy allright! According to the Trócaire website, he is a member of the Board. Trócaire was called out once already by the Irish Charities Regulator for getting involved in political advocacy and now they are at it again with renewed support for BDS. A Catholic charity with a political agenda? Could this have anything to do with the Municipality of Jerusalem freezing accounts over unpaid property taxes? Tick Tock 😝https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-fresh-move-in-tax-dispute-with-vatican-israel-freezes-notre-dame-hotel-accounts/amp/
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Don’t be worrying about those priests. They’d be afraid to draw any more attention to themselves at this stage.
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Loving the clerical fury that one of the dreaded women would (allegedly) persuade herself that it’s the will of their invisible friend that she earn 100k when that’s the kind of thing they persuade themselves six times before breakfast. 🤣
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Will all the anti-TLM crowd (“the priest has his back to the people”) get the vapours tomorrow when the see that the King is crowned facing the high altar of Westminster Abbey and with his back to the people?
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@ 6:55pm
I’m sure and hope they will, even the heretic Anglicans know its right to face East instead of peering over an ugly Cranmer table at people.🙄
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God forbid. People would have to look at you.
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And we know what happened to Cranmer.
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Except that’s not the reason the king is crowned facing that way.
You people really can’t help yourselves can you. 🤣
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@8:57pm
Perhaps you can inform us why so. I couldn’t care less anyway, it’s all heretical nonsense. Do give us your superior knowledge, I’m sure you’ll have been googling it’s your usual source, since you know fuck all about anything.
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Ohhh! 9.11’s a very sore and angry loser. 😅
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8.57pm is a toxic mix of arrogance, anger and stupidity, all aggravated when drink is on board, ie most of the time.
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At least the old priests weren’t nosey, they faced the crucifix on the wall, now they making eyes at the congregation and getting all kinds of notions. Life is good for everyone when boundaries are respected.
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Don’t listen to the spoiled priest. Westminster Abbey and the Royal Family say that the throne faces the altar in order to emphasise the religious significance.
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9:42
Lol
Fr. Bad habits himself displaying anger bordering on rage cos the game is up!
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The Royal Family say it’s facing that way in a tradition dating back to King Cnut.
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5:53 Your comment about the successors of the current bishops is a heresy if you seem to be suggesting that there would be an end to the church. The Catholic Church cannot end. And this is actually part of the faith.
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@ 8:35pm
Yes,indeed God be praised.
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8:58
Which God?
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Of course the Catholic Church, as we know it, will end: it’s a human construct and, therefore, like the humans who constructed it, finite.
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@ 10:31pm
Don’t you know there is only One God!🙄
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10:39 The one you don’t believe in?
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How do you know there is only one God? Have you proof?
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@ 9:25pm
Wrong, it is not of human construct, it was instituted by Almighty God.
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Pope Francis lacked integrity when skied about the Magdalene Laundries and Tuan babies made like he’d never heard of it.
Liar – he knew about but played the hear no evil. see no evil card.
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7:38 that’s their modus operandi & public servants in various departments are compliant.
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He lied too, by gesture, when quizzed by a French journalist in St Peter’s Square about the Fr di Grassi affair in Argentina. Let on, facially, that he didn’t understand the question(s).
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Did Archbishop Peter Smith as was alleged use rent boys whilst being spokesman for ethics and family life? If true he lacked integrity.
Cardinal Trujillo used rent boys and whipped them after coitus – he lacked integrity as was President of Pontifical Council for Family Life.
Did Pope Paul VI lack integrity – Humana Vitae and Michael Sidonna? (Mafia).
Did Pope John Paul lack integrity as he said married woman was his vocation.
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Catlicks who scorn alleged Unionists of Larne conveniently forget that Planters gave them Maynooth Seminary!
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The British government gave Maynooth to settle the Irish natives. Looking at it now, Maynooth is yet another British disaster in Ireland.
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Well, not to settle the natives, but to keep them from becoming unsettled and rebellious through politics imported from revolutionary Europe by Irish priests trained there, like.
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The holy ones not fussy where it comes from, they’ll take it anywhere they can get it.
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I propose that calling clerical celibacy a ‘discipline’, given the morally riotous behaviour of most Catholic priests, is actually a misnomer and a lie. Shouldn’t it be called instead an ill-discipline, since, as Richard Wipe argued, it facilitates a culture of omerta among priests and, therefore, one in which kiddie-fiddling and its concealment becomes a commonplace, and a systemic, and defining, feature of the Church?
Of course it should.
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I’m not going to get a wink of sleep this night, thinking about the mighty events to unfold tomorrow. I’ve got full, ocean-going, Coronation fever.
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Enjoy it! Ever dog has his day!
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Well here at 10:20pm I’ve watched today’s coronation comedy on BBC1 10PM news. What an absolute load of codswallop. All the palaver of linking the coronation pomp and ceremony with “GOD” is truly laughable! That’s the part I found most ridiculous.
Well the whole charade reminds me of the words linked to the early Roman poet Juvenal: “give them “bread and circuses”
One has to wonder at the priorities, in these days of massive failings in UK public services provision, at the cost of spending reputedly £100 million on this one day spectacle.
“Bread & circuses” indeed.
MMM
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