From Pat Kenny NEWSTALK.
The number of new recruits is dwarfed by the number of retirees and Bishop Cullinan believes it is a problem not unique to the Church.
“We are certainly faced with a problem,” he told The Pat Kenny Show.
“We all know that but vocations to marriages, vocations to any lifelong commitment in modern society is something that is decreasing – there’s no doubt about that.”
Bishop Cullinan said women are “essential” to the Church but that the priesthood should stay off limits to them.
“In the Church of England, the ordination of women hasn’t been a quick fix solution to the number of vocations,” he said.
“In actual fact, they’re going down.
“So, we can learn from that; it is something that God has – out of God’s wisdom – chosen for the Church, men for this particular role and there are all sorts of roles…. for women.
“But the specific issue of the priesthood is something that following Jesus in this particular way – and taking the risk for Christ – that he is calling and whom I am to stand and say, ‘Lord, I think you’re wrong.’”
The number of men training to be priests is dwarfed by the number retiring.
Not so long ago, the priesthood was a highly prestigious vocation and Ireland was a net exporter of clergymen to the world.
In 2023, things are very different and Bishop Cullinan conceded there the numbers studying for the priesthood are “very much less” than previously.
The number of new recruits is dwarfed by the number of retirees and Bishop Cullinan believes it is a problem not unique to the Church.
“We are certainly faced with a problem,” he told The Pat Kenny Show.
“We all know that but vocations to marriages, vocations to any lifelong commitment in modern society is something that is decreasing – there’s no doubt about that.”
“In the Church of England, the ordination of women hasn’t been a quick fix solution to the number of vocations,” he said.
“In actual fact, they’re going down.
“So, we can learn from that; it is something that God has – out of God’s wisdom – chosen for the Church, men for this particular role and there are all sorts of roles…. for women.
“But the specific issue of the priesthood is something that following Jesus in this particular way – and taking the risk for Christ – that he is calling and whom I am to stand and say, ‘Lord, I think you’re wrong.’”
Some believe allowing married men to become priests would boost recruitment but Bishop Cullinan was sceptical about whether a married man could do justice to the role.
“Does he give his heart to the parishioners or to his wife and family?” he said.
“And it’s always a dichotomy there and I think, for me and the happy priests that I know, they are free to give themselves fully for their ministry in their parishes, in their chaplaincy, wherever it is.
“I worked for five years as a hospital chaplain and I do not see how I could have done that job if I were married because in the hospital it was full on – especially the night calls.”
PAT SAYS
If bullying, insulting Phonsie is an example of priesthood, whobin God’s name would want to be a priest.
Who would want to be another Phonsie?
In his interview with Pat Kenny, once again, Phonsie insults bast swathes of the population – women, married men, and priests / ministers of other churches.
Phonsie says that married priests would not be as devoted as unmarried priests.
Because their attentions would be divided between their wives, children and ministry.
Nonsense !
Look at all the excellent married Church of Ireland priests and the Presbyterian and Methodist ministers.
They can be good husbands, fathers and pastors.
In my experience in Northern Ireland I always see far more ministers on hospital corridors than I do RC priests.
Free to GIVE ALL to their parishioners?
Poppycock!
Looking back on many of the priests I lived with, many of them spent their days on:
The golf course.
The racing track.
On the phone to their Bookmakers.
Wining and dining each other in presbyteries.
Getting pissed out of their minds in their presbyteries.
Of course there were notable exceptions.
And celibacy has its own way of making priests very selfish and narcissistic.
And these days, as Phonsie well knows, many priests spend a great deal of their time on Grindr and in the various Boilerhouses.
Really, Phonsie is trying, whether he knows it or not, to preserve a misogynistic, paternalistic, homoerotic priesthood.
And, THANK GOD, most young men will not buy into that.
The Irish RCC Bishops could not have chosen a worse man to make their vocations guru.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
203 replies on “PHONSIE AS VOCATIONS GURU 😀”
Sounds like a throw back to 1985. It’s one thing to take a risk for Christ quite another to risk entering Gaynooth.
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Bishop Phonsie did a hatchet job on Fr Richard Geoghegan.
Bishop Tom Deenihan did a hatchet job on Dom Benedict Andersen
The ongoing hatchet job on Fr Paddy McCafferty is disgraceful
Bishops first priority is to protect the financial interests of the church above all else, the money is all they have left and they must make it last to do for their day, they must retain the luxuries they are accustomed to at all costs.
Bishops instigate hatchet jobs on anyone whom they perceive will complain or threaten their evil interests and connections.
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Any priest turning up drunk for a funeral and worse to celebrate The Holy Mass should be dealt with immediately. In better times they would not have been tolerated at all. It is disgraceful that these so called useless Bishops are so afraid to act as they should, in case they upset the wokes.
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2.35
In better times, errant priests wouldn’t have been tolerated at all? You’re kidding yoursel😄
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Phonsie will die roaring for what he did to Fr. Geoghegan. I hope he will speak his truth one day!!
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How many sems does Phonsie have in his own diocese? Probably none, so if he cannot even attract candidates in his own diocese he’s hardly fit to be vocations guru for the whole of Ireland.
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Until people acknowledge that priesthood was obviated by Jesus’ death and resurrection, the moral merry-go-round of child abuse and general corruption will continue ad infinitum.
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That is your opinion and you are entitled to express it.
Others of us think differently.
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10.32
Well said, Pat.
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10:27 & 2:38
And very patronizing. Show some respect please @ 2:38.
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Bishop Phonsie is THE VOCATIONS GURU OF IRELAND, right!
Don’t be questioning and contradicting and telling lies now.
Keep away from all them aul vaccinations
Don’t be listening to nonsense on the media from the WHO
Listen to Phonsie and his colleagues and follow their leadership
You’ll find us in National and regional newspapers
All known and lesser known online media platforms
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If you can’t see our face on these lesser known platforms, you might recognise our butts.
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Get lost ya Fonzie!
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LOL
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@ 10:32am
OMG! Patsy for once we agree, good boy.😉
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12:41 Crazy Irish Bishop ain’t talking about US, mate! He’s on about da Jab, Jab, Jab!
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2.38
Stop licking. It’s pathetic.
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Ah! Patsy yar a great wan for the editing, but that was a right hatchet job, you edited out the best bits. What are you?🤣
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What a deluded fool is The Phonz. So Eastern Rite Catholic priests who may marry are somehow lesser priests and not as dedicated as their Western counterparts or the flouncy ex Anglicans in the made up ordinariate? As for a divided heart – what of all the priests with boyfriends, feeling the Clapham lads or getting blown on the altar?
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As the say in Belfast – Dead on !
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What total bollox about being a hospital chaplain and nights!!
Married men and woman work nights in hospitals as nurses, doctors, you name it, what they can’t do their job cuz they’re married – what world is he living in?
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Well said 👏
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My sister is a nurse, 4 kids, works nights, husband feeds kids at breakfast time & gets schools stuffs ready. She takes kids to school before she does house work, grabs sleep before it’s time to pick them up again, then it’s feeding time, homework, after school activities. She rests for a few hours after husband return from work and before it’s time to head off to work again in a very challenging busy and overcrowded hospital. This couple like thousands around Ireland and the UK and elsewhere are barely making ends meet.
That’s real life for many families and others in all kinds of differing and challenging circumstances today.
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Real family life- making ends meet, facing the challenges of daily life
on a 24/7 basis- unlike many clerical MIA spoiled narcissistic spongers.
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Agree with 11.27
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I worked as a hospital nurse for 30 years..always had to ring out for a priest.
Other pastors were always visiting.
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“I worked for five years as a hospital chaplain and I do not see how I could have done that job if I were married because in the hospital it was full on – especially the night calls.”
Once again, didn’t he look around him once and notice that the hospital somehow managed to provide 24/7 staffing and it was full on for them too? I wonder how they manage it.
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I imagine carrying out intensive brain surgery in the middle of the night is more full-on than chanting a few prayers and rubbing a bit of oil on a person.
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@4.55 pm
You got it!
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@11.33
Ordinary staff have time when they are not rostered on and other staff cover them. How do lay chaplains manage their work/life balance? Or C.o.I. chaplains for that matter. Its a change of thought process from the catholic chaplains who do often feel bound to practically live in the hospital as if we are indispensable. We are dispensible, replaceable and very often carry too high a sense of self-importance
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Pat, you have a malign assessment of Bishop Cullinan out of a past experience you had with him and you avail of every opportunity to denigrate the man. That’s your prerogative but I don’t agree with your personalising your thoughts so negatively against him. However, I agree with you on the following. Bishop Cullinan is not the right man to be heading up vocations recruitment to the priesthood. His thinking can indeed be defined as paternalistic, misogynistic and patronising towards many categories of people. We should not be comparing ourselves to other Churches. The Catholic hierarchy should have the wisdom, learning, insight, courage and discernment to allow women be ordained deacons, priests and bishops. It should also allow married men to be priests and define certain roles for them while they continue working for and rearing their families. There is a backward thinking going on in the Irish Church that is seriously destroying the “Spirit” out of the Church. Where are the “young” and “religious” priests who may have some appeal for vocations? Where are the lay people who can also advocate for more priests? Where is the newness of vision, interpretation and creative thinking about “vocation” in its wider context? The Bishop means well but the thinking is incongruous and out of date for today’s society. The priesthood and church have been damaged and crushed by their own theocracy, reckless living, abuses, corruption etc…that a whole generation of young people for the past 30/35 years have grown up with narratives that disgust them. How, in all seriousness, can we even smile at the reality of what we’re trying to fix? The wound is so deep that it will take more than a smiling face and old fashioned concepts from past centuries to renew and recreate a ministry, Church and priesthood that have an attraction, welcome, authenticity and honour at their core. Until all of us in ministry truly repent, seek CHRIST , accept him fully, live his WAY and detach ourselves from all material things, we are merely rearranging the deckchairs on a fast sinking ship. Yes, I speak to myself first and foremost and do not lose my HOPE that new flames one day will be lit from the smouldering embers. A new dawn may break sometime….
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12:01
Excellent post.
(Apart from first two sentences).
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Yes…also why talk to young men back to front…in that photo
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12:26
Talking down my child, talking down.
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Phonsie is not a dogmatic theologian. His doctorate is in moral theology. If his arguments against the ordination of women are those quoted here, those in favour have nothing to worry about. If these are the only obstacles, it will happen. They are made of straw. It’s the line that because Jesus didn’t appoint any women we can’t do it today. Jesus didn’t appoint any Irishmen but that doesn’t stoo the church. It’s doubtful he would make even a good moral theologian because he’s so wedded to ideology.
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12.24
Fidity to the charism of the Lord isn’t a matter of repeating what he did and said but about bringing his spirit to the issues of our day.
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Is there no ethical or moral duty to tell it like it is regarding vocation to priesthood and not give a fantasy narrative from the middle ages?
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@ 1:22pm
You are right of course about ethical moral duty , but I’m afraid the fantasy narrative is the present day’s not the middle ages.
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2:45 Is Phonsie a fantasist?
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2:45
I’ll ask again, Is Bishop Phonsie a fantasist?
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The fantasy is the present day’s but the content of the fantasy is from another time another place; as 12:01 said, ‘from past centuries’.
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@2:45
Rt. Rev.MIA refuses to answer. Why I wonder.
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Jeez, Bishop Phonsie clearly believes that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and bedroom. His stance on the HPV vaccine for women along with his unlawful conduct during Covid is barbaric.
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He’s get on like a house on fire with Donald Trump. Two Misogynistic Dictators.
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How many Diocese of Waterford & Lismore priests are on the Missing in Action list but are still on the payroll and enjoying foreign education trips and other perks. What’s the story with the priest and the missing €70K? Waterford & Lismore must be neck in neck with the Killaloe situations in the unsavoury stakes right now.
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The Bishop Accountability website is hopelessly out of date for Ireland and other regions. This is deliberate and shame on government and policing authorities for ignoring this.
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12.04
I believe you’ll find this is a website and organisation independent of the church.
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12:04
https://www.bishop-accountability.org/Ireland/
‘This Irish database is a work in progress; please refresh the page each time you visit to see the latest improvements. We have worked carefully, but no doubt we have made mistakes. Please call them to our attention confidentially. The Irish news media have reported the crisis well, but our access to their work, recent and especially pre-internet, is only partial. Let us know about other articles and commentary that would help us understand the Irish abuse crisis better. BishopAccountability.org is committed to truth, accuracy, and fairness. Corrections and comments on information appearing in the database are encouraged and can be sent to staff@bishop-accountability.org‘. ‘If BishopAccountability.org discovers facts establishing that any information appearing in the database is inaccurate, we will promptly take appropriate action, including but not limited to revising, correcting, or withdrawing the information.’
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Reply to;Bishop Accountability website is DELIBERATELY out of date – yet another form of suppression of truth by Roman Catholic cover up merchants.says:
May 9, 2023 at 12:04 pm
BishopAccountability always asks if anyone has information or photographs to contact them regarding, sexually abuser priests, nuns, brother religious or deacons, and let them know, if you know something not already reported, or if you know some Roman Catholic cleric or religious accused or guilty of sex abuse in Ireland or elsewhere, and it’s not on their website, let them know.
What makes you think it is deliberately out of date?
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I live in Waterford Lismore diocese. Our parish priest is five feet three in height. He is fondly known as half pint. His neck and head are barely visible at the pulpit or behind the altar. He is a loose cannon. If he was
any taller he might be a lethal weapon.
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9.09
Body shaming prejudice. Post a pic of your weight to height proportion and let readers see for themselves.
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11:32
Excuse me! My body weight and height or my parish priests?
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11:32
Some of us have jobs to go to unlike some people writing on this blog.
Google Fr. Half Pint. I will not be posting any pic. Your post is borderline pervy. The cheek.
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It is not just Priests ordained for the Diocese that has gone missing. In 2015 soon after he was made Bishop, Bishop Cullinan announced to much fanfare that three Priests of the Heralds of the Good News Order are set to take up positions in the Diocese. They were said to be staying for at least seven years. Since then two of them has disappeared of the face of the earth. The one that remained was made a Parish Priest in the last year or two.
It’s well known that Bishop Cullinan hounded Richard Geoghegan out of the priesthood. Edmund Cullinan and Shane O’Neill have left to take up positions in Rome and Maynooth. Were they hounded out as well or were they headhunted to take up these positions .
Bishop Cullinan appears to be constantly meeting up with some retired priests, MAYBE with the hope of talking them back into fulfilling some Parish duties. Other (youngish) priests are not doing work in a parish – the likes of Gerry O’Connor. Nobody seems to know where Michael Kennedy (remember the story of the woman in Dungarvan that was sleeping with men and passing on aids to them from the 1990’s – and his homily that made Sky News and other major News Networks) has gone.
For two of the biggest hospital’s in the Diocese – University Hospital Waterford and South Tipperary University Hospital he has brought in priests from India and Africa to serve as Chaplains. Many would not have a problem with priests coming into Ireland to work. Ireland in the past sent many around the world to work. But could not an active retired priest not serve as chaplain and leave those who are younger work in the parishes, some of whom have no priests.
He has brought two priests from other Diocese’s to work in his Diocese. One on loan from Meath for three years who spent time in Clonmel as a sort of co-Parish Priest before he was sent to a remote parish in South Tipperary as a Parish Priest. He has also brought another priest in from Galway to say Mass in Waterford and Lismore in Latin. Tell me if I am wrong but doesn’t Pope Francis want the Latin Mass done away with or at least scaled back. Why is Bishop Cullinan promoting it?
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Fr. Michael Kennedy is living in Ballylaneen, in the parish of Stradbally.
Fr. Mick Enright used to invite him to give out holy communion on Sundays.
Phonsie asked that this practice be stopped.
Now Fr. Enright (retired) and Fr. John Delaney PP refuse to cover Masses in Ballylaneen.
The sacristan had words with Phonsie after the confirmations and he stormed off like a raging bull.
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He was at the Chrism Mass. Chaplain to nuns in Glencairn. Not allowed to say public Masses. Concelebration, not a problem.
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If Bishops following instructions from Rome covered up CSA what else did Bishops cover up for the supposed ‘good of the Church’? What of young men in the relatively recent past who ‘took the risk for Christ’ but as a consequence had their lives ruined due to seminary cover ups?
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Are Catholic Bishops in Ireland living in an alternative universe:
Catholic seminarians speaking out about sexual misconduct are being shunned
https://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/national/catholic-seminarians-speaking-out-about-sexual-misconduct-are-being-shunned
Cardinal McCarrick, seminarians and abuse: how could this happen?
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2018/07/16/cardinal-mccarrick-seminarians-and-abuse-how-could-happen
How a ‘Culture of Predation’ Puts Seminarians at Risk for Abuse
https://www.ncregister.com/news/how-a-culture-of-predation-puts-seminarians-at-risk-for-abuse
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Following link to podcast:
https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-the-pat-kenny-show/priesthood-for-a-career
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Pat queried 20 seminarians, but Phonsie revealed 56 queers at various stages of formation at Maynooth, Rome and Salamanca.
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Phonsie’s counting Grindr hookups currently resident in the semenarians’ beds.
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7:11 But there’s still 16 unaccounted for unless there’s 3 in some rooms?
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1:27 You’re assuming there’s only one Grindr hookup per semenarian present.
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1:49 Thank you. It never crossed my mind.
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All the world is queer
Save thee and me
And even thee is a little queer!
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LOL
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Guru….skillful person master or teacher……(dispeller of darkness).
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Do as I say not as I do.
Always remember never forget I’m wearing the hat….not you. Simples.
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Phonsie is completely wrong on one central point. The number of vocations in the Church of England is going up. Many men and women are being ordained. Women were not ordained originally to deal with fewer vocations amongst men. They were ordained because God calls men and women to all roles within the Church.
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8.35
Are you suggesting he hasn’t done his homework?
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12:39
Are you?
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@8.35 I most certainly am saying that.
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Am no fan of Phonsie – well documented here and by others – but he will certainly bring energy to vocations. Whether it translates or not into bigger numbers is doubtful but the man is a fighter, for good or bad.
The talk about women priests is laughable and on the lines of the nonsense from Eamon Martin on RTE a few months back. Total rubbish. These guys are truly living in the stone age and their references to scripture are laughable -nowhere is it written that women cannot play a full part. Then again what women usually bring to the table in organizations – thoroughness, accountability, doing things by the book – would be totally unwelcome in the RCC (I exclude the Portsmouth COO and Killaloe Safeguarding from that of course).
The RCC is really screwed. Brokeback Mountain in the Comeraghs? Good. Women priests? Bad. You couldnt make this bad comedy up.
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Toddle-some,
I agree Phonsie is a fighter not afraid to put himself forward. He will
bring energy to vocations situation. Will the energy he brings be positive or negative? Negative energy is a recognised phenomenon in physics, individual psychology but what of institutional or organizational psychological levels? Systems theory tells us entropy will occur unless fresh input frequently occurs across the system. How fresh input translates across institutional church is up to ‘the powers that be’ but
new wine cannot be put into old wine skins.
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As for E&W what I see as prospect for the last few ordinands recently ordained for E&W. If you had real thoroughly inferred belief and real prayer is one thing, and if you didn’t but the seminary staff or diocesan hierarchs “hoped” these would grow on you is another. This is addressed only to the former. Ifyou are “lucky” enough to not be leaned on by ordinaries or metropolitans to manoeuvre any of the public into any mystique (because many are still superstitious or would wish to creep if only you are creepable to) and if you respect each one’s baptism given by God on behalf of all His Trinitarian people and their conversion to God and not your international corporation, the sacraments will still work through you if on an attentuated scale compared to your earliest days. I pray generic set prayers and of course you are included in the intentions of them.
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By court reporter Karen Percy.
ABC NEWS
After 26 years, Eileen Piper has finally won an apology from the Roman Catholic Church for her daughter’s abuse.
An elderly woman, Eileen Piper, holds a black white photo in a frame while standing in a garden.
Eileen Piper waited 26 years to receive an apology from the Roman Catholic Church for her daughter’s abuse.
It’s taken 26 years, reams of legal documents and many tears, but Eileen Piper has done what she set out to do — cleared the name of her daughter, Stephanie, who was abused by a Roman Catholic priest in the 1970s.
The Roman Catholic Church had long denied Stephanie Piper was abused by Father Gerard Mulvale in the 1970s
The Archbishop of Melbourne apologised to Mrs Piper after a review by the former chief justice of the Victorian Supreme Court
The 95-year-old mother’s lawyers said the apology is too little and too late
In December, Mrs Piper, 95, received a written apology from Melbourne’s Archbishop, Peter Comensoli, and the Pallotine order of priests which, for years, had denied the crimes of Father Gerard Mulvale.
“I am relieved — but I’m still hurt,” she told the ABC.
Stephanie Piper
In the 1970s, Mrs Piper was an active parishioner at St Christopher’s in the Melbourne suburb of Syndal, now part of Glen Waverley.
Her adopted daughter, Stephanie, became religious and, as a teenager, played guitar and sang in the church youth group, which is where she met Gerard Mulvale, about 1975.
“He had an illness, a terrible illness — he should never have been in the priesthood,” Mrs Piper said.
Father Mulvale served at St Christopher’s until 1979, when he was “suddenly” moved to another parish outside Melbourne.
Stephanie Piper alleged he made sexual advances, or worse, on at least eight occasions from 1975 to 1979 — including on one occasion after getting her drunk at a Chinese restaurant, and another time at the beach with other members of the youth group.
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I still find it bizarre that a Roman Catholic would think there is somehow a ‘shortage’ of ‘vocations’ to priesthood. You can’t make out that these vocations are the call of God and then say there aren’t enough. Either you’ve got it wrong, the vocations God calls are being stymied, God doesn’t exist, or God is telling you he wants it done differently.
Similarly it’s bizarre to say there is a decline in vocation to marriage. Even with the rise in single person households the world of relationships has continued and the world’s population is the highest it’s ever been.
Is he saying God wants people to have sex outside marriage???? It sounds like it.
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9:48,
Chalk it down to doppelganger syndrome, i.e. men, and only men, made in their image and likeness.
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I remember the Salford diocese Chrism mass in the mid-1990s a wide age range of priests, mostly white. Now it is elderly white and youngish African/Indian priests. I guess the same in the US with Latino priests. Won’t belong until we have a Nigerian-born diocesan bishop.
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I am convinced the main reason the RCC won’t allow married or women priests is because the Protestant Church has them. To change now would be to admit that the Protestants were right and led by the Spirit and the Popes
were all wrong. Never going to happen.
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Except the RC church has, and has always had, married priests. Did I mention that the whole priestly celibacy thing is a deception and scam from beginning to end?
There is a strange inability among so-called Catholics to look at the whole (Catholic lol) picture of their religion that goes well beyond an attachment to specific cultural expressions.
At my RC school in the 1980s I remember the history teacher telling us that Vatican 2 was a bad thing because mass is now in different languages. He told us that before Vatican 2 mass was exactly the same all over the world. Of course when you’re 12 you don’t necessarily know where to find the evidence to show that your history teacher is an idiot with no sense of history.
Luckily he left teaching completely and became – I’m not making this up – a social worker.
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It’s hard to know where he did more harm – by teaching or by being a social worker 🤣
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I don’t believe it.!! Heaven save us from all harm. So he knew less about social work with it’s machinations than Vatican 2. It figures.
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Luckily he was married (and obviously Latin rite although I doubt he would have understood why I’m saying that) so was unable to go on and do the ultimate harm by being a priest.
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2:36
Well thank God for small mercies.
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Alison O’Reilly covered this horrific story in Irish Examiner newspaper yesterday.
Monday May 8, 2023
Niece of ‘Mollie’ who died aged 13 asks minister for education where her body is
Mary Mollie Corrigan was born in 1905 and died aged 13 at an industrial school. Her burial place is unknown.
The niece of a girl who died in an industrial school in Galway has written to Education Minister Norma Foley demanding to know where her remains are.
Mary Mollie Corrigan was taken from her family in North Dublin when she was six years old on the grounds of “want of proper guardianship” when her mother died.
She was later sentenced to 10 years at St Bridget’s Industrial School in Loughrea, Co Galway.
The teenager died of pneumonia on November 1, 1918, when she was 13, without ever seeing her family again. There are no burial records for her.
Now, her niece Anna Corrigan has written to the Government through her solicitors requesting information on Mary’s final resting place.
Ms Corrigan told the Irish Examiner: “I can’t find her grave and I’ve been looking into this since 2014.
“Mary must be one of thousands missing. I can find no official figure for the graves of industrial school children.”
Mary Mollie Corrigan’s death certificate.
The legal letter sent by KRW Law on April 3 to the Department of Education on behalf of Ms Corrigan and seen by the Irish Examiner, said: “If manifestly inappropriate burials are discovered at a site associated with an industrial school, it would be for the minister for education to consider bringing forward a proposal to establish a director of authorised intervention for that site”.
In school reports provided by the Mercy Nuns and dated October 12, 1915, Mary was described as “a good child, very satisfactory and a little bit giddy”.
Mary Mollie died from influenza and pneumonia but there is no information on her file that points to where she was buried.
St Brigid’s Industrial School in Loughrea was managed by the Sisters of Mercy from 1869 and to 1967 and was originally certified to accommodate 150 girls.
The Department of Education said: “The department does not comment on individual cases.
“When the department receives correspondence raising issues of concern, including issues relating to industrial schools, it engages directly with the correspondent.”
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Heartbreaking. Hoping the Irish Minister for Education and her colleagues will do more the issue of this cold legalistic statement clearly only geared in protecting their own interests that they’ve issued to date in response. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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The Australian Catholic Church has released “grim” data revealing 7 per cent of priests, working between 1950 and 2009, have been accused of child sex crimes.
The worst-offending institutions, by proportion of their religious staff, have been shown to be the orders of brothers, who often run schools and homes for the most vulnerable of children.
This is the most substantial dataset released to date about the extent of child sex abuse within the Australian Catholic Church, and was done with cooperation from them as part of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
The church surveyed 10 religious institutes and 75 church authorities to uncover the abuse data on priests, non-ordained brothers and sisters, and other church personnel who were employed between 1950 and 2009.
4,444 alleged cases were recorded
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While she did not make a report to police until 1994, Stephanie Piper spoke to her psychiatrist in 1992, revealing that Father Mulvale had pushed her out of a car when she refused to cooperate with him, and also locked her in the boot of the car.
“I didn’t really know what Gerard was doing was wrong,” Stephanie Piper told police, as revealed in a submission by Eileen Piper’s lawyers in a special review of the case ordered by the church last year.
Mrs Piper was not aware of what was happening until her daughter was released from hospital after a suicide attempt in 1993 and confessed that she was no longer a virgin.
Church claimed Stephanie Piper was lying
The Roman Catholic Church long denied that Stephanie Piper was abused by Fr Gerard Mulvale, accusing her of fabricating the story due to mental illness.
Mrs Piper learned that Father Mulvale had threatened Stephanie and the family.
“She knew he was such an evil man, that he would have done it,” Mrs Piper said.
After the confession, Eileen Piper told senior figures in the church, who investigated.
The Special Issues Committee convened by the church concluded Stephanie was lying.
The committee relied on evidence from another youth who attended St Christopher’s, which discredited Stephanie.
“My knowledge of Stephanie Piper is that she creates fantasies and after a period of time actually believes they came true as fact,” the man wrote in a letter in August 1993.
“We had a pact about who could seduce him first,” the man wrote.
He would eventually tell investigators he was pressured by the church to provide the false statement.
Stephanie Piper killed herself in January 1994, aged 32, two months after she reported her experiences to police.
A gravestone for Stephanie indicating she lived from 1961 until 1994, loved daughter.
Fr Mulvale was convicted the year after Stephanie’s death of abusing two boys from his youth group.
The case was looked at again in 1999 by Peter O’Callaghan as part of the Melbourne Response to child sexual abuse allegations.
He made the same finding as in the Special Issues Committee — determining she made it up because of a psychiatric illness.
“She wasn’t a villain — she was the most beautiful little angel,” Mrs Piper said.
She believes Mulvale targeted Stephanie because of her dyslexia and because she was adopted.
“He could probably sense that something was not quite normal,” she said.
She refused to give up on clearing Stephanie’s name.
In 2011, she met lawyer Judy Courtin who has since uncovered new evidence, found another victim, and made submissions to the Royal Commission into Institutional Child Sexual Abuse.
Together they repeatedly challenged the Catholic Church, including a public confrontation in August 2018 when newly-installed Archbishop of Melbourne Peter Comensoli addressed the Melbourne Press Club.
Eileen Piper showed Peter Comensoli a photo of her dead daughter in 2018.
Eileen Piper confronted Melbourne’s newly-appointed Archbishop, Peter Comensoli, in 2018, showing him a photo of her daughter in her coffin.
That was a turning point.
Archbishop Comensoli ordered a review, putting former chief justice of the Victorian Supreme Court Marilyn Warren on the case.
Justice Warren reviewed documents from the past investigations as well as the new evidence. She also interviewed Eileen Piper.
“She listened to me, she listened to my story, she knew I was telling the truth, but she had to prove it — but she knew,” Mrs Piper said.
Justice Warren also spoke to Fr Gerard Mulvale, who continued to deny he did anything to Stephanie.
“Based on relevant material and, on the balance of probabilities … Stephanie was a victim of sexual abuse by Fr Mulvale,” Justice Warren wrote in her 80-page report.
“It is a matter of regret that whatever the truth in Stephanie’s allegations, she was made to feel degraded and disbelieved by those interviewing her.”
Justice Warren was critical of the processes undertaken by the Roman Catholic Church to probe the matters.
“The investigations conducted by committees such as this one were not independent, and were likely to have been affected by the prevailing culture of the time which tended to seek to protect the reputation of the Church rather than to allow complaints such as Stephanie’s to be fully ventilated,” she said.
“I am not satisfied that the Special Issues Committee investigation adopted a process that was sufficiently thorough to enable the evidence required to properly determine the truth or otherwise of Stephanie’s allegations to be gathered.”
Church ‘sincerely and unreservedly’ apologises
Within months of delivering the report, the Roman Catholic Church apologised.
“Eileen, I apologise to you, sincerely and unreservedly for the profound effect of the abuse on Stephanie, and the subsequent effect on you and your family,” Archbishop Comensoli wrote in a letter dated December 20, 2019.
“I express my great sadness that it has taken so many years for this outcome to be achieved for you.”
It’s a relief for Eileen Piper.
“I’m happy that the church at last has given in to the truth,” Mrs Piper said.
But she said if the church had taken this approach earlier Stephanie “would be alive today”.
Church took ‘legalistic approach’
Lawyer Judy Courtin is critical of the way the church dealt with the case.
“It’s great to get an apology but I have to say it is far too little and far, far too late,” Ms Courtin said.
“There was a very, very legalistic approach right through.”
She acknowledges that legally Mrs Piper’s case was “out of time” but she said the Church should have responded sooner and more sympathetically.
“They would not entertain any other form of negotiation, meeting, mediation — that was it, legalistic, hiding behind and using the black letter of the law to the nth degree, full stop.”
Lawyer Judy Courtin says abuse by clergy severely impacts victims and their families.
This lawyer Ms Courtin is not resting yet.
She says the system and the law need to do a better job of accommodating the victims as well as their families and friends who are also affected.
“The impact for families is for a lifetime, the psychiatric harm is for a lifetime.
“Secondary victims are profoundly impacted.”
For Eileen Piper, there is now a chance to sleep better.
“There has hardly been a night that I don’t go to bed, that I don’t go through it all as if it were still happening … I relive it.”
As her elderly mother in her 90’s holds a black and white baby photo of her deceased Stephanie Piper.
Eileen Piper says her daughter was “the most beautiful little angel”.
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The lay foot soldiers are well incentivised to discredit victims on behalf of abusive clergy and members. Toxic Mafia. At least that poor old lady has finally received an apology for the sufferings inflicted by Fr Mulvale and his church that protected him, it won’t bring her daughter back but it’s a step in the right direction. Disappointing and concerning to see once again yet another abusive priest being moved around by his superiors without due regard for public safety in settings where vulnerable persons and others are most likely to be off their guard in hospitals, schools, community groups and so on.
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Welcome to the UK where the holy ones who insist on remaining in ministry although they are unapologetically in breach of their terms of office & who are most blatantly determined to do as they please unchallenged but expect to be financed by the sheep, these scurrilous clerics spend church donations on their expensive fancy lawyers in efforts to suppress journalists and victims of clerical related abuse. The church is a business, watch out for their professional cohorts in the legal, insurance, accountancy fields and in a myriad of influential roles in health, education and local authorities, central government and in fact in any corrupt rathole that will share the spoils with these shameless collared abusers and their colleagues.
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The church only apologised because Eileen Piper was lucky enough to find a lawyer who wasn’t afraid to do her job properly to achieve due justice for her client. Lawyer Judy Courtin is her own woman and is a credit to her profession. The likes of Gemma Loughran should hang their nasty corrupt heads in shame. Bishop Paddy Walsh did many bad things and Judge Gemma Loughran and her cronies “look after” their abusive clerical family members and friends.
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RC diocese of Meath Pastoral Formations Officer 50k
RC Archdiocese of Tuam Diocesan Accountant around 65k
RC Archdiocese of Tuam Diocesan Resources Officer 45K
We pay All our Staff so apply now !!!!
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Do priests do these jobs or are they filled by lay people?
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Jobs for the gals or boys??
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2:04 Jobs for the gals and boys!
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Worst Catholic religious institutes in Australia
The Benedictine Community of New Norcia is about two hours north-east of Perth in the Wheatbelt of Western Australia, and holds a monastery that was founded in 1847.
It is one of the oldest monasteries in Australia, and has the worst average of child sex abuse complaints against its priests and personnel.
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It also has a connection with Fort Augustus Abbey, that paedophile haven in Scotland: abusive monks moved between the two, presumably to secrete them in a different country.
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Counsel Gail Furness, SC, said 4,444 alleged child sex abuse incidents were recorded in the survey.
Ninety per cent of the victims were boys, with their average age at time of abuse being 11-and-a-half years old.
Girls were only 10-and-a-half years old on average when they were abused.
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7pc of Australian Catholic priests accused
Seven per cent of Australian priests ministering in the 60-year period have been accused of child sex offences.
This is an even starker figure to similar research carried out in the US which found that from 1950 through June 2015, 5.6 per cent of the 116,153 priests who worked have been accused of child sexual abuse.
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Does something strike you as a bit off with this homily?
https://www.rcsouthwark.co.uk/news-events/news/homily-by-fr-sean-finnegan-re-interment-of-the-body-of-bishop-butt-and-heart-of-cardinal-bourne/
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Do you mean apart from its rampant clericalism?
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Yes. Big time !!!
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Bishop Pat I’m not 11:45 but would be interested in your analysis of the homily. Perhaps it could be a post of its own?
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11.45
Those Latin words that priest quoted, and the the passage from John’s gospel (‘you have not chosen me, I have chosen you’) he mentioned are, together, generally and deliberately misinterpreted by Romanist priests to allude to their priesthood when, in fact, they do no such thing: they refer only to discipleship of Jesus.
EVERY genuine follower of Jesus is a disciple of his, not just (perhaps not even most) Romanist priests. This is blatant clericalism, and an example of scriptural eisegesis at its most shameless.
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9.21
Once again, faulty and ideology-driven interpretation from the lapsed former seminarian.
If you read on to the end of the verse you will see all the words placed onJesus’ lips by the evangelist. Jesus goes on to say ‘I have appointed you that hou should go….’ Being sent (apostello in Greek) is the essence of what an apostle is.
Jesus is not addressing only disciples but rather, apostles.
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I am going to compose a letter to Bishop Alphonsus stating clearly what the situation is in our diocese regarding vocations. It is a no no topic and the door seems to be firmly shut to new recruits. I want to find out if he is aware of the situation. Some Bishops require feedback and I believe Phonsie requires advise
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The mistreatment of whistleblowers is scandalous. People of good standing are rightly appalled by the mistreatment of Dom Benedict Andersen, the whistleblower and true Prior of Silverstream. https://youtu.be/DS1z-KV_hgA
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12:53
One year after Lux leaks scandal what about the protection of whistleblowers…
How many years is Dom Benedict Andersen whistleblower and true Prior of Silverstream Priory waiting for a letter of good standing from Bishop Tom Deenihan? It remains an outrageous scandalous appalling injustice. Support Dom Benedict Anderson’s fight for justice.
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I’m sure you will compose no such letter because that might mean giving your identity.
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2:45
Believe it or not Mary Anne people do write signed letters of complaint to Bishops.
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3:16 what do the Bishops do with the letters they receive from the public?
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Shredder
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Believe it or not there are exceptions even if reluctant exceptions to every rule.
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Alarming statistics were found within the non-ordained ranks of brothers scattered throughout Australia who often ran, and still run, schools and orphanages.
Overall, there were 1,880 alleged perpetrators identified:
597 (32 per cent) were non-ordained religious brothers
572 (30 per cent) were priests
543 (29 per cent) were lay people
96 (5 per cent) were non-ordained religious sisters
72 (4 per cent) of known alleged perpetrators, their religious status was not known.
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Repy to; Alarming statistics on abuse by non-ordained personnelsays:
May 9, 2023 at 12:12 pm
Australia, 40% of St John of God Brothers (The Hospitaller Order of St John of God) who were in charge of some of the most vulnerable in society, operated schools and institutions in Australia, harbouring numerous paedophiles.
The St John of God Brothers arrived in Australia in 1947 from Ireland. In 1948 they opened a residential special school for boys with learning difficulties located in Morriset NSW, known as Kendall Grange Special School.
The Royal Commission into institutional abuse found that over 40% of the Order were paedophiles.
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And I’ll bet the other 60% all swore blind they had no idea what was going on…
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The worrying figures from the 2000s
In the full report there are datasets that appear to show there is very little abuse happening in the last decade of survey — the 2000s.
However, in her opening address, Ms Furness revealed some statics about victims which show how to take those statistics with a grain of salt.
Ms Furness said the average time it took between a victim being abused and reporting it, or seeking redress, is 33 years — a very long time and an explanation for low figures in the 2000s.
There is one dataset that can show us whether or not accused priests and brothers were pushed out of the diocese or institution, and that is a much more worrying picture and reveals how ineffective victims’ claims about child sex abuse may have been.
This chart shows the percentage of priests or church personnel who were working in these areas or orders even when claims had been made against them.
The chosen four below all had a percentage greater than 10 per cent in the final decade reported.
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***WATCH THIS SPACE***
A Prince of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, John Atcherley Dew (born 5 May 1948). Resigned as Archbishop of Wellington last Friday.
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That’s on his 75th birthday. They have to. Having the date extended or accepted is a matter of the Curia’s discretion.
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Archbishop Dew will be relieved to retire. He investigated Bishop Charles Drennan and other abuse cases.
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12:37pm – No it’s not. A bishop has to tender his resignation upon reaching 75, but it entirely up to the Pope whether it is accepted – and until it is accepted, the individual stays in post!
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Two ways to control people
First of all frighten people
Second demoralise them
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Modus:
Third: Create dependence.
Fourth: Provide illusory “escape”
Fifth: Fleece them
Sixth: Threaten anyone who criticises.
MMM
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Heaven has six letters
Coffee has six letters
It’s no coincidence
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Be the driver of your life
Steer to the direction
where you want to go
Best wishes to our regulars Deaf Guy, Queenievenus Pluto, Seamus and all of those who are too afraid to leave their names or are ill equipped mentally and physically to endure any more church related abuse from clergy and their members who strenuously object to the concept of access to equality, justice and respect for all persons regardless of age, status, disability, religious beliefs or none etc.
Also remembering deceased readers and contributors of this blog and thanking them and all who contribute in any small way to seeking justice for living and deceased victims of any form of abuse perpetrated by Roman Catholic Church members who hide behind its power as a means to continue their abusive conduct on an ongoing basis.
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Yes I often pray for MMM, RIP- he was one of the best contributors on here and he added so much to the discussion
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Yes God rest his soul. I know he claimed to be an atheist but I’m sure at this point God has rewarded him for his sincerity in trying to seek the truth. RIP Michael
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Hi Cecily, & @2.40anon.
Wish me well, but don’t waste time “praying” for me! You’ll know my opinion on such matters.
I’m not gone yet! Still very much alive & kicking, albeit @ 79, well ‘slowed up’.
I just can’t be bothered commenting more: the puerile level of debate and constant trolling is off putting.
@2:40, you refer to ‘seeking the truth’.
I’ve never claimed to have it. I’ve regularly asked ‘zealots & cathbot’ types for their evidence, but never received any sensible, certainly not convincing, responses.
So, as a not persuaded and viewing such poverty in religious beliefs, I remain a contented 😊 ‘agnostic atheist ‘, still inviting those ‘who know’ to persuade me to join the great con-job that is religious belief. 😉
MMM
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@3:29
Michael, I’m delighted to learn you have not yet popped your clogs. Seek and you shall find.
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Why does the bishop not put himself up for interview on television with Claire Byrne and give her free reign to ask probing questions based on what we all know are the real reasons few are coming forward to train as priests? Encourage the debate and maybe our church can come back from the grave.
I was flabbergasted by his statement that only a celibate man can give totally to his parishoners or words to that effect. What a pathetic statement to make in 2023. Who doesn’t give of their all in this day and age? Maybe your local priest! Ours left the parish after Mass on Sunday and won’t be back to Wednesday evening and he won’t be missed. Total committment my a…
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@3.29 pm MMM
Don’t worry too much about not believing in the Afterlife. I think you are in for a wonderful surprise when you pass. All the answers will be revealed, until then you will have to be patient and ‘Wait’. Don’t hurry off too soon mind!
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@9:20: If I thought for a second that there will be some kind of ‘afterlife’, I’d happily hurry off this ‘mortal coil.’ So I’m not in any way worried about my unbelief. But thanks for your kind thoughts.
Recent blog focus was on integrity. I’m obliged to wonder if integrity is better shown by unquestioning belief in a much discredited religious facade perpetuated by abusive clerics, or, by way of contrast, an open minded examination of evidence for the validity of religious claims.
What do readers think 🤔
MMM
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Michael, why do you assume believers are unquestioning? What kind of evidence for the validity of religious claims are you seeking?
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@11:13: I don’t assume ALL believers are unquestioning. But it seems to me, and many others, that for various reasons, a great many ARE unquestioning. Indoctrination, herd instinct, psychological and emotional manipulation etc all play a part. It’s well portrayed in Hans Christian Anderson’s folktale “The Emperor’s New Clothes”.
As regards evidence, no one can definitively prove that there is no God. Nor can anyone prove there are no pink teapots orbiting the most distant stars. But surely the onus lies with the believers (of God’s and Teapots!) to provide evidence, …..especially when, in relation to religion, they claim to absolutely know the truth and that others should subscribe to the same belief, and its accompanying prescriptions and requirements……..or “risk” hell fire and damnation?
And the evidence so far: weak, riddled with contradictions and contortions of suspended sensibility.
MMM
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10:48
From a psycho-dynamic perspective 10:48 first line is very interesting.
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7:31
Pink teapots etc is a creation of human imagination. It is as much up to you to disprove the existence of God. Check out the following links:
https://www.magiscenter.com/
https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/tag/science-and-faith
https://www.magiscenter.com/articles
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Thank you@ 3.53, ……for giving me more cause to smile at the incredulity!
I did check out your link. I think it’s laughable to posit an almighty personally involved God as the “must-be” explanation for phenomena for which there currently is no obvious practical or scientific explanation. This false assumption is often referred to as the “God of the Gaps”. ie. we don’t understand it so “God must have done it.”
In simple language: Ancient humankind invented God to explain thunder, lightning, earthquakes etc, and then came the priesthood to intercede and placate the angry gods, ……at a price!
MMM
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4:48
You’re welcome. You might have glanced at the links provided but certainly did not digest any information from the website. A prerequisite for learning is openness to new information, insights, and knowledge. Your parroting ‘must be God’ ‘God of the Gaps’, we don’t understand it so “God must have done it,” is quite frankly, old hat.
It is certainly a misrepresentation of information provided from Magis Center. If you already know, ‘ancient humankind invented God to explain thunder, lightning, earthquakes etc, and then came the priesthood to intercede and placate the angry gods, ……at a price’, why, oh why, are you commenting on a blog exposing abuse corruption and criminality in the Catholic Church.
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boy, is somebody very unhappy after the blog the other day
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Who?
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Oh yes i saw that facebook rant this morning too
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What Facebook rant?
Link?
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Gosh Pat, you’re not up to speed today at all bird x
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Paddy McCafferty slated you on Facebook this morning but has mysteriously taken the post down. He said you were a disciple of satan Pat
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On Facebook, Luke James McConnell, under his own name and posting also as Juke McConnell, has been having a pop at you and publishing disobliging comments from others about you, Pat.
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@ 4:34
That is a hidden compliment.
The Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out demons by power of Beelzebul, the prince of demons. See: Matthew 12:22-50.
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Vocation Directors whoever they be (young priest, senior priest or bishop) are like stewards on the Titanic – the ship is sinking but they’re still putting out the chairs and looking busy.
Eddie Clare was Vocation Director for Birmingham and went MIA as if he didn’t exist – so what happened to his vocation.
It’s just about the March of time sooner than later it won’t be a crisis it will be a tragic joke and Humes threat on no priests no Eucharist will be met no one cares.
The rot set in with the idea of specialness whereas they aren’t special and ontological change is a clerical myth foisted upon the ignorant by the clueless.
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@ 4:34pm
The cheek of that McCafferty wan, after you supporting him, truly no good deed goes unpunished, take note Patsy.🙄
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Stipulates that any priest who violates the “seal of confession” automatically incurs the penalty of excommunication.
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3:57
Anything to add..?
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Reply to;Roman Catholic Canon Lawsays:
May 9, 2023 at 3:57 pm
There must be many Roman Catholic priests excommunicated so.
Automatic excommunication i a bottomless pit, if the priest breaks the seal of Confession, who monitors him?
If he breaks the sex of Confession and doesn’t care about excommunication, who monitors him.
If those GO-BOYS have no fear of breaking their vow of celibacy, or sexually abusing children and, adults, or getting caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, sexually abusing seminarians, etc, etc.
What on earth is going to stop them breaking the seal of Confession, I would imagine they have no fear of especially, the so called automatic excommunication. I bet they have a good laugh at the Confessor.
This blog spoke of integrity a few days ago, I wonder how much of this trait is still to be found in the Roman Catholic priesthood? So many seem to be risk tolerant and, maybe get a kick out of, getting one over on others.
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Good post QP.
Freudian slip-‘If he breaks the sex of confession!’. lol.
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We see zero integrity in several Diocese, the level of disrespect and outright arrogance and deception is jaw dropping stuff at a minimum, criminality at a maximum.
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I have never heard of a priest being excommunicated for breaking the seal. I expect it would be treated as seriously as child abuse was As we know the only reason the church has reluctantly made some appearance of doing anything about that is that sooner or later we would have seen bishops in jail, with the way they were going.
Strange how the penalty of excommunication is carried out for obtaining episcopal orders without a papal mandate.
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Where can you find out what priests and people are automatically excommunicatef and the reasons why.
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Try
https://www.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.html
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Who is the hot lad in the picture with Phonsie? Second from right. I would go to mass daily if he were our parish priest.
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The one second from right is actually Phonsie himself. You should refer yourself to St Luke’s at once, you’re really not well.
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6:23 Aah no, he might not know left from right or right from left.
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And the one on the left is looking back wondering who’s this plonker?
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I’m so pleased to hear that MMM is not dead. That’s the best news I have heard all day.
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Thank you @ 4.57.
It’s good to hear that at least some of my comments have been appreciated. I recognise too how they have assisted regular trollmeisters release their pent up angst with ad hominem vitriol. Must be tough carrying such burdens.
MMM
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@ 8:16
Jeez Michael, or should we call you Laz, after Lazarus- did someone say your comments were not appreciated? Some of your comments were challenged or questioned. I make no apologies whatsoever for challenging comments. As for pent up angst or carrying burdens-with respect- Michael, trying to prove or seek proofs for the existence of God in the autumn of life is a major burden. Why are you so defensive when your former profession, social work, is criticised or briefly critiqued on this blog? The fact of the matter is your former profession causes major burdens for many of their clients whether you or anyone else in your former profession want to acknowledge it. As for ad hominem vitriol, you are well able to ‘snort’, Micheal. Glad to know you’re still with us!
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28“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29“Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matt 11:28-30.)
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12.40pm
Just saying that a pseudonym or a sobriquet (Deaf Guy, Queenievenus Pluto) doesn’t necessarily reveal one’s identity or require a certain moral courage in the same way that identifying as Anonymous might simply reflect a lack of imagination, laziness or indifference than moral cowardice and timidity.
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It is striking that the website for the rape crisis centre is RCC.
What does that remind me of? 🤔
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Are they a branch of RCC Inc?
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10:22 they pick up the pieces, a vital service unlike their clerical namesakes.
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Fintan Monahan has a lot of MIAs. Costs are mounting at Westborne
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Any idea of how many MIAs?
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Finny don’t give a monkeys, why should he. The HSE and the local authorities have solved his financial requirements.
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Narcissists don’t usually start out being rude, difficult, or cruel.
In fact, for a while, they can be quite nice, charming, and considerate.
They can ask questions and seem genuinely interested in the answers.
They can plan fun dates or take you on trips.
They can buy you flowers, give you gifts, and remember special occasions.
Narcissists need you to believe their facade is real before they can break you.
Because to effectively gaslight and manipulate you – they need you to:
Know
Believe
And trust them.
You can’t trick someone who already doesn’t believe you.
That’s why the vacillation between “good days” and “bad days” is so unnerving.
Because you stay confused, not knowing which “version” of them you’re dealing with today.
And the more unsure and unstable you feel – the more you’ll rely on someone else to guide you.
And because narcissists always believe THEY are right…
You’re more susceptible to believe in their lies.
Not necessarily because you fully believe them but because you don’t know WHAT to think anymore.
You don’t know how to explain the changes you’re experiencing or why you feel the way you do.
So you’re more likely to:
Remain in a state of confusion
Capitulate to the narcissist’s demands
Ignore your gut feelings
Ruminate on unsolved problems
Stay silent to “keep the peace”
Try harder to “fix” things
All the while the narcissist keeps stoking the fire of confusion, overwhelm, uncertainty, and fogginess.
Have you experienced this before in a narcissistic relationship?
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7:12 Great post.
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Paddy McCafferty doesn’t like himself, so how the hell is he capable of liking anyone else? Even a parishioner. Eugene O’Neill has a lot to answer for.
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How?
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A woman scorned
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MIAs from Armagh and Killaloe being pulled in to assist Phonsie in vocations AFAIK
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What Armagh MIAs are you speaking of?
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Advice columnist Ms E Jean Carroll has been awarded US$5MIllion in damages after a nine member jury rejected Trumps denial that he assaulted Carroll and ruled in her favour.
The jury decided that Trump sexually abused her and then defamed her by branding her a liar.
On the allegation of rape, jurors said they cannot prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that he did rape her.
This was a civil tort of sexual abuse and defamation.
No one is above the law Donald Trump.
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Great news that!
I watched Trump being questioned on YouTube regarding Ms Jean Carroll’s statements. Gone was the swaggering arrogance and ranting claims: replaced with evasive vacuous “dunno/not sure” : all dead giveaways to his continued lying and clear to a jury where the truth was.
The truth, hopefully, will eventually emerge to put him behind bars for a life of deceit, coercive control and criminality.
MMM
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Hardly, Mickey babes, sure it’s a civil trial rather than a criminal one and therefore jail isn’t on the cards. I would have thought that you with all your supposed understanding of nuance and procedure, would have realised that. But eventually the mask always slips.
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10:34 Babe! Have a go at understanding the comment before making a fool of yourself by replying! X
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The point you make @ 10:34, that it was a civil trial is SO obvious that I thought no need to mention it.
It is the other criminal matters waiting in the wings I had in mind, …..but maybe you’re not aware of them?
Do try to keep up.
MMM
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Thanks Mickey babes, I will try my best to keep up- and I am so lucky to have you as my mentor and guide xx
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The Orange One, the Don Trump could be ordained into the Roman Catholic priesthood in the morning. The holy ones stalking this blog are always hissing “lies, lies, lies” when anyone gets too close to the truth on here or hits a nerve. Bishop Phonsie can fight Bishop Monahan for Fr Donald Trump who may choose Killaloe as his golf resort is over there. Popcorn time!
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11:27
Sad news. The Don returned to the Big Apple. Not only was he unable to find a plasterer he was unable to get planning permission for his big project, ‘The Wendy House’. So long, Don.
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Mullaney hides in his Suite once Phonsie arrives into Maynooth.
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10:41 Why so?
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Isn’t this something like the third time MMM’s death has been reported on here?
This blog is getting like a seance.
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LOL
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You’re right- I cannot decide at this stage whether he’s alive or dead – my overall hunch is that he is dead and that the current “MMM” is an impostor just using the name.
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11:04 Trust your gut instinct.
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He’s alive! He’s alive!
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I reckon +Pat could easily clarify that by reference to the numerical code he gave me about 6/7 years ago to verify my posts when others tried to impersonate them.
I still have it Pat.
MMM
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10:42 We apparently live in a rough area. We got cleared out, they even stole the ouija board. 😢
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Perhaps 10.42 it’s wishful thinking by those whose cosy delusions are challenged by evidence seeking uncomfortable questions?
It must be painful when a sheltered mansion’s foundations are described as quicksand ……..and the cracks widen by the day.
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Fr Paddy McCafferty has taken a much deserved break from social media which I hope and pray it will help him with his recovery from the hurt and pain he has suffered.
Is an amazing person and example to us all.
It would be fitting if that McConnell ‘clown’ that hides under Pat Buckleys banner would for his own good and wellness take a break also.
His life, personal health and wellbeing has gone to the dogs with nobody to blame but himself, a complete buffoon!
Please have a word with him for his own sake, he’s rubbing many people up the wrong tree!
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Aye we shall see how long Paddy’s break from social media lasts. If it lasts until tomorrow it will be a miracle.
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McConnell posts then edits it five times then reposts and eventually removes it and believes that his posts are achievements, disturbed individual with not an ounce of education to his name.
Was brain dead at Keady High, now totally brain lost in life!
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So glad that mournful Mick came out of retirement to try and convince us that he’s still alive
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How many contradictions lie in this comment @ 11:58?
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How many?
You tell us as you seem to know.
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