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HOMOSEXUALITY IN CLONLIFFE AND WATERFORD – 1970 TO 1976.

CLONLIFFE
ST JOHN’S

On this blog I am constantly asked two questions:

1. Did I witness homosexuality in my time in seminary?

2. Did I engage in homosexuality in seminary?

I am, of course, aware that many of those anonymous questioners are nasty cynical and sexually active clergy.

CLONLIFFE – 1970 – 1973

There was a hidden, very hidden, homosexual underground in Clonliffe in my time.

But it involved a tiny minority of the 120 who were there in my time.

I was personally aware of only one situation that involved Peter Meldon, later ordained, and a young guy a year junior to me.

In that case, Meldon, not a nice man at all, did the grooming and seducing.

It caused the younger guy great distress, and he used to discuss it with me.

When it was found out, Meldon was ordained and the younger guy expelled.

I lost touch with the younger guy. If he’s reading this , get in touch.

INVESTIGATION

Clonliffe president, Bishop Joe Carroll got wind of the homosexuality and asked a senior seminarian, PEARSE WALSH ( 😀 ) to investigate.

CARROLL

I never heard what Pearse Walsh reported to Carroll.

Pearson Walsh was an “unlikely” investigator, as those who know him will attest.

Bill Mulvihill has an awful lot to say about Pearse Walsh.

WALSH

Other names are associated with homosexuality in Clonliffe, including Fr Gay Slattery.

There were also allegations of visiting altar boys being sexually abused at Clonliffe.

WATERFORD

St John’s was a much poorer and much less sophisticated seminaries.

The living conditions were poorer, the food was poorer, and perhaps the academic life was poorer.

The seminarians, mainly from rural areas, were simpler.

But it was a very informal and warm place and so relaxed in comparison to Clonliffe.

I think homosexuality was almost non-existent there.

But there was one exception – an English seminarian who had been introduced to homosexuality at a very young age and who sought to continue to explore his activities there.

He had a number of conquests.

ME

I did not engage in any kind of sexual activity in either seminary.

Of course, I was gay and indeed had the normal attractions and desires.

At the time, I was very serious and pious.

I regarded those things as big sins – mortal sins – and things that would stop me from realising my reason for living – to be a priest.

I was very lonely, very sad, and very psychologically and emotionally immature and afraid.

I often think that one of the few things this time gave me was the ability to say NO to myself.

None of us like saying NO to ourselves.

But it’s an important ability.

We all need internal brakes.

I am not claiming any special virtue by my not engaging in sexual practices in seminary.

It was as it was.

Would such experimentation have made me a less repressed person, a more integrated person.

I simply don’t know?

But I would not have wanted to become another Purcell, JPL, etc

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AN ANSWER TO THOSE DEFENDING FR DAVID TAYLOR – THE H&N ABUSING PRIEST.

DAVID TAYLOR

THE ORIGINAL COMMENT

Everyone who knows and worked with Fr David (Taylor) in youth work, is 99% certain he is innocent and certainly never showed any deviant behaviour with the 1000s of young people he worked with in their presence but 2 young men accused him and got good pay offs from the Diocese. In court the dates and information they gave were incorrect and could be proved.

Bishop Pat,

You asked was there any doubt over Taylor’s guilt. I hope this helps to clarify. I’m happy for you to use it your blog

I’m very concerned that doubt about the guilt of David Taylor is being made by a recent contributor.

In 2009, when his first case came to court, it’s worth noting that Taylor admitted his guilt (eventually), and the Diocesan Safeguarding Priest said after the trial that there may be more cases. The evidence against Taylor was not so flimsy that the witness statement of another priest would have have ‘saved’ him.  I also think the victim blaming by your contributor is abhorrent. Their assertion that ‘everyone that knew and worked with Taylor is 99% certain of his innocence’ is both impossible to prove and arrogantly disturbing.

Here is a report on that first case.

https://bra01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bishop-accountability.org%2Fnews2009%2F05_06%2F2009_05_19_Mckay_FatherDavid.htm&data=05%7C01%7C%7C9f2bd07be3f24e2638a608db513debca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638193098632391604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JVdQJAOrn4CKFch7qZeyiSAWyk7CbVOGFFAsf%2FGHthw%3D&reserved=0

A number of further cases have been brought against Taylor, all upheld. However the most recent case (2022) led again to him being found guilty and a 13 year sentence.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/beast-priest-northumberland-clergyman-abused-25731020

I knew Taylor from the 80’s, worked as a volunteer at Holy Island Camp where he was a regular chaplain, was even a parishioner of his at his last parish.  In all that time I had no suspicion of his offending, I was as shocked as everyone else, found it hard to believe and when he was sentenced found it such a betrayal.  

However, to suggest Taylor is not a sexual predator who deserves to be in prison, is frankly ignoring the evidence of many victims and several juries. 

I hope your previous correspondent, who continues to assert Taylor’s innocence and criticises the priest who refused to offer a positive witness statement, considers the many victims experiences of Taylor’s offending and believe them  – several juries at several trials did.

Regards,

Angel of the North

PAT SAYS

When a priest, or anyone, stands accused, we must regard them as innocent until proven guilty.

But when they have been through the court, and especially a jury trial, and have been found guilty, then we have to accept the verdict.

Of course, there can be miscarriages of justice. There have been some spectacular ones.

In Fr Taylors case, I think that the truth came out and justice was done.

Those who loved / liked him will be disappointed.

And, if we have family or friends who have done bad things, it does not mean we stop loving them or caring for them.

We can love our family member or friend, but not love what they did.