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PRIEST – “I’VE HAD ENOUGH”.

Well done, + Pat, on your 25 years as a bishop. And even more years as a priest.

I was ordained some 30 + years ago, and I am now in the process of retiring early.

Lucky, I guess, that I have options and am able to set down ministry in my early 60s.

Why ? Well, you know, at a very practical level I am just tired of the ever increasing demands on me and ever increasing expectation that I simply take on more and more, and just keep going on and on.

All this is from a bishop and diocese that just wants to keep the show on the road and these days has little respect or care for the priests who do the work.

However, more significantly, I have grown and developed over the years and now find myself out of step with so many significant things that the RC Church stands by and teaches.

The Gospel values still stand strong for me, but the institutional Church offends me these days – everything from the clerically dominated hierarchical system of decision making and governance (I’ve already hinted at the distain and arrogance of the bishop and diocese to its priests), to the toxic and damaging clerical culture that leads so many of my brothers in to dysfunction and unhappiness, and a good number of them in to criminality as we have seen in such egregious abuse (and please don’t tell me that this has nothing to do with the way priests are trained, live, function, and fail !).

GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION

Not to mention the hurtful burden of having to carry these sins myself as someone who is a priest of the Church and thereby guilty by association.

I add also the dolt headed intransigence of the Church to seriously consider the role of women in ministry, especially when it is clear that young men are studiously avoiding the priesthood recognising that it is not a way as currently lived in the RC Church to happiness, fulfilment, or even to effective and holy service.

And this especially resulting in people like me having to do more and more.

So, why not ordain women, giving them rightful respect for their undoubted gifts and calling ? Why should I plough myself into the ground when the Church will not help itself ?

CHURCH REJECTING PEOPLE

After many years of ministry, I have found myself required to hold so many people at bay from full inclusion in to the life of the Church, especially the sacraments – so often through difficulties in relationships and marriages. I’m tired of being the gatekeeper who bars the way, and even though I have always been as flexible and compassionate as I can be, there is only so much that I can do.

OUTDATED AND DISCREDITED THEOLOGY OF SEXUALITY

And why do I have to continue to peddle a long outdated and discredited theology of sexuality, which is clearly wrong and hurtful and offensive to so many and keeps them at arm’s length ? So, even though Francis is perhaps making some way forward in some of these areas, it is too late for me and I am hanging up my hat.

Life will be good and positive for me in the future, and I look forward to it.

OTHER PEIESTS TRAPPED INSIDE THE CHURCH

I fear for my brothers who do not have any options but to stay and find themselves subject to episcopal diktats, given even more parishes to run, and have to tacitly support Church policies, thinking and even theology that is clearly wrong and damaging.

I feel some sense of abandonment leaving them to it, but after much time and thinking, I know that I have to prioritise my health and wellbeing right now. I’ve tried hard enough and long enough, but enough is now, and now I am offski !

BISHOP PISSED OFF

The Bishop is pissed off because it presents him with a problem, but he has not the slightest sense of care for me. I’m just a problem for him because I’m puling up stumps.

PAT SAYS

I’m one sense it is very sad when a priest has to walk away disillusioned.

But, on the other hand, there is so much about the RCC to disillusion people and, indeed priests.

This man is:

1. Tired of ever increasing demands and unrealistic expectations.

One can see how such demands and expectations can be exhausting and soul destroying.

2. He has experienced his bishop as uncaring.

This very week priest, I dealt with a priest who was ill and in need of personal and practical medical support, and his bishop, when told, did not want to know.

I brought the priest for his medical procedure, stayed with him overnight , brought him to his post operative check up, and left him home again.

More and more, RCC bishops are neglecting their sick and older priests.

3. Our priest correspondent is tired of the whole hierarchical and clerical club that leads to dysfunction, addiction, and sometimes, crime.

4. Our priest feels GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.

If you stay in an abusive and corruption church and clerical cabal, then you are guilty by association – especially if you don’t publicly express your horror and rejection of what’s going on.

RCC priests, whether they like it or not, are public representatives of a thoroughly evil institution.

If you take their pay and benefits you are compromised. Simple!

5. Our priest is tired of being the gatekeeper – of an organisation that rejects various groups of people because of who they are and who they loverejection that runs contrary to the Gospel and spirit of Jesus Christ.

6. Our priest is tired of being a propagator of outdated and discredited theology.

7. Finally, our priest feels compassion for the many priests trapped in the RCC and not having the means to escape.

ME – 47 YEARS IN……..

Looking back, I think that people like Cahal Daly, unintentionally, did me a great favour.

They maliciously and savagely slashed the ecclesiastical umbilical cord that attached me to the RCC creature.

And while that was, at the time, painful, distressing, and confusing, it was a great blessing in disguise – and leaves me at 71, still a very content and practising catholic (small c), priest and bishop – with no desire or need to “get out” of faith or priesthood.

And that’s precisely because I am free of hierarchy, clericalism, and institutional asphyxiation.

In other words, I have The Freedom of the Sons and Daughters of God.

No one can have two masters.

One cannot be the servant of both God and Rome.

146 replies on “PRIEST – “I’VE HAD ENOUGH”.”

One can only run with the Fox and hunt with the hound for so long although the majority of priests appear manage it quite well. Horses for courses.

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I would be interested to hear from alumini of Blackrock College who are well-known celebrities. Were they abused or did they witness abuse?

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What has the priests “family” got to do with “you”, Padre? Crossing “boundaries” has landed the RC with its current recruitment crisis. We won’t forget what your fake pious types did to our vulnerable family members and friends.

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Before you write a letter to your fourteen-year old self, remember how you treated me when we were in school in Moylepark!

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Bishops and their business managers and professionals have zero respect for anyone or anything apart from their own personal and financial interests. Church is a business exploiting the image of Jesus as a commodity to facilitate their lucrative scams. This priest is doing what any person of integrity would do, the fact that so few priests jump before they are pushed, not by their bishops but by the police when court proceedings become imminent, sums up this toxic Mafia and their cohorts.

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Bye! Bye! it’s a good thing you are going, since you say that you have ‘grown’ and are out of step with significant things The Church teaches. You have to go and as soon as possible, before you lead more people astray.

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7:57
You have no idea what work the priest has done for Gods Kingdom. The man has also probably ‘grown’ as a human being. Are you sure you are
not reflecting something of yourself in your comment? Are you stagnant
or stagnating without even realizing it?

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Well done on finally making the decision to exit the cover of the Holy Protection racket for criminal activity. Mind yourself.

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Most of us who were ordained in the 70’s and 80’s felt then a great enthusiasm as there was societal support for priesthood, though changes were revealing themselves and people were questioning more and more. My first 25 years of priesthood were reasonably full of contentment and I had a great sense of purpose, fulfilment and a deep sense of my ministry. I was affirmed by many in what I was doing and had incredible experiences at many levels working in parishes, schools and hospitals. While I questioned my faith, life and priesthood often, I wasn’t unsettled. But that feeling of reasonable satisfaction, fulfilment and purpose was upended completely when the sexual abuse crises hit us like a tornado. Since those days, our integrity and credibility have been shredded to pieces and its difficult to recover any real sense of our lives being as rlevant and valued as before. Yes, we still have moments when we can make a great difference to parishioners and contribute meaningfully to them at particular moments but the challenge to be relevant is almost insurmountable. Too many disasters, abuses and much harm have been inflicted on people by the Church that are, in many instances, unforgiveable. Like the priest correspondent, many of us could write the same narrative. Now near the 70 mark with many health issues and an ever increasing workload (on my own in parish) I just try to take one day at a time. I have responsibilities for 3 other parishes and the logistics of this and making decisions with all parishes is causing many headaches and unwelcome conflicts, too many meetings, extra administration and huge unrealisable expectations. We are in very difficult times. Most of my contemporaries began with similar enthusiasm and dedication as myself and believed deeply and spiritually in priesthood. We have given our best energy and commitment and feel at times we are now simply surviving. I am certain many of us would retire from ministry but not from our faith or from Jesus Christ. Prayer is what keeps me strong and gets me through my days.

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9:33 Thank you for exhibiting the psychological mechanism which keeps people in abusive marriages.
You gave a bit too much away in your original comment; my comment picking up on it has drawn your desire to be out of there so you’ve withdrawn to the comfort of being abused.

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9.18: A nonsense comment. Silly. I will be celebrating two Masses today and have 4 baptisms, all of which are a source of joy and contentment, as they always were. You truly don’t understand the comment I made at 11.53am..Try to read it with an open, balanced and fair mind. I will never lose my faith in God or in Jesus Christ or in the power of the Holy Spirit.

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Pat only YOU know you did a good thing in this case. There is always a nasty troll to knock you down. Our Lord didn’t need social media to be put down either.

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9.18
That’s nonsense. Pat has published without comment, viscious words against him.

At least, Pat, readers know the commenter is Bela, the one who uses vulgar language agains others, including Pope Francis and then cloakes everything in a pious veneer. The one who extolls Latin and who has no competence in the language.

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12:51
I most definitely hit an exposed nerve. Human growth is a very important aspect of ministry-life otherwise stagnation plus acting out can easily occur.

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The Roman Catholic Church is riddled with conflicts of interest. The public long realise this and those who do not need the RC for business or employment reasons steer well clear.

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1:12 you haven’t considered the egotistical types and those “faithful” who require a “good cover” to hide behind. A complex subject in some cases.

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8:38 Canny sorts can get away with a lot with the support of incentivised clerics and chapel colleagues who are well versed in coercive control and tactical intimidation techniques. It could be said that the dictatorial and bullying regime instigated by the church against the poor and disadvantaged by manipulating them into Mother & Baby Homes and the like were the definite origins of the need for the pending Hate Crimes Bill shortly to be introduced in Ireland.

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@ 8:50am
Yes Nettie he has certainly commented on you. I’m mot the only one on here who uses vulgar language including Patsy, check yesterdays blog.
I am perfectly competent in the Latin of The Mass, if anyone cloaks everything in pious veneer it’s you with your utterly sickening sanctimonious claptrap. I note that sadly you still can’t spell.

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8.50
I don’t know who you think I am, Bela, but I am the commenter at 8.50 and you know absolutely nothing about me. I suspect you are Scottish. I am Irish. I suspect you live in Scotland. I live in Ireland. I suspect you are fixated about someone who made the headlines in Scotland years ago. I have never been before a court or mentioned by any media.
What I do know and who I am is someone who is disgusted by your vulgarity here, by your judgemental reaction to comments like those of today’s post; by your infantalising of serious debate because you cannot participate intellectually in it. Echoing words of commenters who call you out in what pass for your replies when all they are are merely echoes which haven’t penetrated your understanding. The contradiction between your self-proclaimed Catholicism and your disdain for the current Pope is only the least of your unreflective anomalies. You do not speak for the church. People like you are responsible for causing honest searchers to reject Christianity.

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Not only do Bishops not care about priests or parishioners, they and their inner circles are quick to destroy anyone they perceive may pose a threat to their cozy arrangements.

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This is the whole point of the ‘church’, hadn’t you noticed? What you describe happens in parishes as well, all the time.

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1:14
Meanwhile cathbots along with the ‘holier than thou’ brigade find it difficult to believe so much abuse corruption and crime exits in the
Holy Church.

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As a counter to this priest’s letter, hundreds turned out in Kilmacrennan Parish in Donegal to protest against the removal of their P. P., Fr. Dunne to Ballyshannon. Over 2000 signatures will be given to Bishop Boyce asking that their much loved priest remain with them, even after 13 years. The parishioners and other denominations and many from far away came to be with Fr. Dunne.This priest is obviously a well regarded and appreciated pastor. It’s lovely when this happens as it says everything good about the relationship between the priest and parishioners. The changes are often necessary but when a man is so deeply rooted and contented in his parish, ministering positively for the well being of all, he should be allowed to stay on. This business of changes needs much greater consideration in all Dioceses. There are some clerics who stay only 2/3 years, get fed up and want to move on, others take time out for no reason and others remain to carry the load of the lazy ones. When we receive support, gratitude and affirmation, we feel encouraged to fight the good fight in ministry. Yet, the deep antagonistic, hate filled voices against the Church debilitate our care and energy. There are many who’d slash us in the market squares such is their disdain and contempt and violent language.

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1:17 there are good and bad eggs in every basket. You have conveniently chosen to ignore the overwhelming numbers of unresolved cases of sexual and financial exploitation perpetrated by clergy and their well incentivised “faithful”. A most disingenuous comment as per usual modus operandi from the RCC.

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Daniel @1:17am….if you’re giving the 2000 signatures to Bishop Boyce, you’re too late mate. He retired in 2017!!!! Try and keep up.

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1:17
‘There are many who’d slash us in the market squares such is their disdain and contempt and violent language’. Are you trying to claim victimhood of sorts, due to cover up of clerical abuse corruption and crime by bishops following orders from Rome? Get real, man. Go whinge to your bishop on the mess created by the hierarchs.

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Daniel
Bishop Boyce retired in 2017 and has nothing to do with Raphoe Diocese
The Bishop of Raphoe is the Most Reverend Alan McGuckian.
The dicastery for Clergy has informed Bishops that a Parish Priest should only do around 10 years in a parish.

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This priest is making the right decision whilst he’s still young enough to embark on a new journey that will hopefully provide him with the peace and fulfilment absent in his current existence.

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1:22 agreed, any relationship with an internationally recognised abuser of human rights such as the Roman Catholic Church is riddled with conflicts of interest and controversy. It and it’s cohorts must surely realise that they all stink to high heaven.

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Pat Buckley, I am not a fan of yours. From what you describe about that priest is deeply shameful. Thank you on my behalf for being the good tsamaritan who crossed the road to help him. I find that story truly shocking. Is this D&C? God help us if this is true.

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Bishop Pat, increasingly RC Bishops are throwing their own priests to the wolves. That priest is lucky to have you & Shame on his Bishop & colleagues. How very Christian like of them as per usual, not! Laity should take careful note, after all, Bishops have been instigating hate campaigns against reporters of church related criminality for quite some time now. Their Church comes first all the time and every time as they demonstrate on a daily basis when they persist in moving abusive clergy and personnel about into new unsuspecting communities, Bishops & others deliberately and knowingly conceal pertinent information from the authorities and they proactively engage in attempting to influence outcomes to further their own interests. Mafia with Fraudulent Frankie at the helm.

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In the Gospel of Luke chapter 10, the parable of The Good Samaritan is introduced by a question, known as the Great Commandment:
Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
He said to him, “What is written in the law? How do you read it?”
He answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbour as yourself.”
He said to him, “You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live.”
But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, “Who is my neighbor?”
— Luke 10:25–29, (World English Bible)
Jesus replies with a story:
Jesus answered, “A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he travelled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the host, and said to him, ‘Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.’ Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbor to him who fell among the robbers?”
He said, “He who showed mercy on him.”
Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
— Luke 10:30–37,

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Pat, this is a good topic for your blog. Can I ask you to ensure that your blog won’t be hijacked by extremists who have a habit of returning here with nasty, vulgar, offensive, discriminatory and hate filled rhetoric. It’s a subject matter that should be taken seriously. We’ve read enough in past few days which demonstrates the viciousness of many towards clerics and Catholicism. That’s just a request I make. Honest, challenging debate, not the usual haters stuff!! Thanks.

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@ 8:45am

I’m sure you will, in fairness I hope you allow those with a different point of view to those with ultra liberal views like your own, to express their views. But I doubt it.

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9:11
Pat, I know you are a bit of a fan of the work of Prof. Hans Kung.
I recently discovered Fr. Kung had a life partner, a woman,
(God be with the days) who died sometime before him.
It’s mentioned in an article by Inge Jens wife of his friend and
colleague Walter Jens.
Below is link in German.
(Use translate)
https://www.zeit.de/2021/44/inge-jens-autorin-walter-jens-gruppe-47-suizid-lebensgeschichte/seite-5?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F

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The theologian Karl Rahner SJ had a lady friend, too. How close they were I don’t know.
Rahner died in 1984.

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9.11
You are a mystery Pat, you really are. You say you will publish all comments provided they aren’t nasty. However, you publish Bella’s nasty comments all the time. What is wrong with you? Play fair, because you haven’t been. And please don’t give me the childish excuse that this is your blog and you’ll do as you please.
Is Bella one of your informants? Or was he? Is this why you are giving him privileged status over everyone else?
His comments are spoiling the blog. He clearly is no intellectual, which is why he can only parrot back another commenter’s thoughts. Seriously, why do you allow this? He contributes nothing but nastiness, which only encourages nastiness in return.

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This priest is highly unlikely to be as tired as the thousands of vulnerable victims and survivors who continue to be exploited and manipulated by the Roman Catholic Church. Unlike them he has the privilege of being facilitated to escape unscathed.

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Serious question – what do these victims want? Most of the perpetrators are dead, so they won’t get a conviction. There’s little point trying to convict a bishop that wasn’t in office at that time.
I have the utmost sympathy for victims of such horrendous abuse but there comes a time where one must accept what happened and move on. Same with the victims of the Troubles

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The perpetrators and their cohorts are alive in many cases.

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Serious answer – do you really have no idea?
When victims say that the church’s response is utterly inadequate how can you possibly ever think you have done enough?
Hint: look at parts of the world where there have been crimes against humanity such as SA or Germany for some ideas.
The response has to start with a change in your attitude and if you’re wondering what these people want your attitude is pretty shit.

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What victims i believe want is recognition of the harm done to them and a serious debate about sexuality. Paedophilia did not just spring out of the air . Paedophilia has always been here and until we can talk about it honestly can we start on the road to recovery. Paedophilia has been found in high places the church bbc.

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10:16
Why did the conference of bishops acknowledge a reckoning on abuse has yet to take place in Ireland? Serious question-why has it not yet taken place after more than 30 years?

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@ 6:33pm

You’ re certainly no mystery, you don’t want any view except yours printed. There is nothing so illiberal as a liberal when anybody has a different point of view, they want them censored. That’s why an intellectually challenged twat like you don’t get it. I can assure you Patsy doesn’t give me preferential treatment and has blocked me many times. I now ask him in fairness to block you.

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A demoralised workforce in any organisation including the church makes for ripe pickings for eagle eyed instigators and their associates involved in corruptive practices. Well done to this priest for having the personal strength and integrity to walk away.

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If the priests themselves have had enough of this toxic damaging so called church, what about those being targeted by its corrupt forces.

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8.24
He made a mistake allowing himself to be photographed while he was taking photographs in Silverstream with glee znd in the company of T. Deenihan.

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10:15 it’s all part of the RC intimidation tactics to deter further whistleblowers. Further breach of human rights from the holier than thou brigade.

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Meath diocese is a joke, Tom D a thundering disgrace, and the protection of Purcell persecution of Dom Benedict Andersen and rewarding of Paul Connell is typically Catholic but not Christian.

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Hello + Pat. I'm the priest who penned the comment that you have taken as your lead today.says:

Hello + Pat. I’m the priest who penned the comment that you have taken as your lead today. I didn’t expect something that I had written at the end of a day’s story to end up featuring as the main even today ! No worries, though, as long as it engenders a positive debate about some of the issues that you have succinctly summarised from my post. I expect that there will be some vitriolic, aggressive and abusive comments from the usual quarters – stuff such as ‘hand to the plough’, ‘ not looking back’, ‘keeping your promises’, ;’letting the side down’, ‘immutability of Church teaching and doctrine’, ‘obedience to bishop and to the Church’, ‘traitor’, etc. etc. And yes, I have considered all of these things over the years. And have come to the conclusion that this works both ways. It is not just me that owes all these things, it is the Church, the bishop, the priests and the faithful who owe these things to me. They have often not been forthcoming, either from bishops, often from priests who just close themselves away and suffer in silence, and disappointingly from a quiescent laity who just pay and pray and won’t say boo to a goose. Maybe we will see a bit more muscle from them when the synod stuff gets traction, but I have been disappointed in how little people actively consider what is happening and voice an opinion. It is, after all, the Church of the People of God ! Anyhow, I will expect all of this to come my way in the comments today, but hope that there will be some understanding and some constructive discussion of some of the issues and problems that I / you have highlighted.

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8:33 Thanks for your honest comment. Significant numbers of faithful catholics have had more than enough of abuse corruption and crime in
the Church. Enjoy your retirement/new life.

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I thought what you wrote was too good and too important to be simply another comment.

Your words call for serious debate.

I will try and let that happen today and bin crazy and unhelpful comments.

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8.51: Par, please stay with your promise nit to let vicious, nasty, hateful anti clerical commenters take over your blog…GOOD AND THOUGHTFUL AND CHALLENGING DEBATE ONLY..

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8:36 Do stop shouting for goodness sake or we might mistake you for a dictator, Father!

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“..after all, the Church of the People of God !”
Theoretically the Church is the people of God, in practice, only when convenient or necessary. Survivors-victims of Church related abuse are shunned.

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Very sensible comment, I thought you were good. Your good sense is of course what’s driven you to where you are now.

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8:33 as former parishioners targeted by corrupt forces within the RC, we sincerely hope that you will be allowed to live in peace after you move on as you are fully entitled to do. This has, unfortunately, not been our experience nor the experience of others we know. Best wishes to you for the future.

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Well done for taking the brave and honest decision to retire from active ministry and your statement today reflects the feelings of so many priests and people of God who have struggled with all they now ser in the Church. You are not abandoning God. You are simply taking a different route and no doubt with renewed energy away from the toxic Diocesan life you will find new ways to do God’s work. There are more people outside the doors of the church than in it who need you …. especially the hundreds of disillusioned Catholics who like you have struggled and eventually walked away. God bless you in your new phase of life.

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The most extraordinary thing is that when you read accounts like the blog post today 👆…
Does nobody ever think that just possibly God is giving a sign that he wants people to act on?

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I remember the film Priest starring Linus Roche, where the old drunkard priest counsels the young priest to ‘get out whilst you can, love who you want when you want’ and that he was fortunate to have his youth and health on his side and lamenting the fact that he had left it too late.

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I can’t believe that film will be 30 years old next year. It was ahead of the game, highlighting active gay priests leading double lives going to gay clubs, and having car sex whilst appearing conservative and traditional. All younger seminarians ought to be made to watch it.

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it was car sex in the film not just gay clubs. You would be surprised that car sex does still exists on laybys.

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Yes that was a good film. Did the Bishop visit the ‘priest’ in the film and tell him to f××k off out of his diocese whilst bringing him flowers? I find this story very sad Pat. I had to read it over and over because I couldn’t take it in.

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Northern Ireland’s very own James Ellis played the part of the curmudgeonly parish priest.

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+Pat. We have had enough, too. All of us. The original disclosure re Byrne, H&N, is from a priest in another Diocese who disclosed at a Deacon’s meeting because he had no support from other priests. He trusted the Deacon’s and they supported him. This original allegation shone the light on other forms of abuse by the Bishop and his special friends. Only H&N are under investigation from the point of view of Byrne’s tenure. The other Diocese ( Brighton & Hove?) will be dealing with the priest’s disclosure allegation.
It remains to be seen what information we get from CSSA report, but Nazir Afzal states ‘no stone unturned’. We may receive information regarding issues from the over 2,000 people’s anonymous feedback, that MMcM reports were not seen as needed publishing in his ‘Executive Summary’.
Clergy know their cast iron support by RC parishioners is seriously depleted. They know it is wise to ‘escape’ – if they can, before they are laicised. With its £m – likely billions +++ why are paedophiles committing suicide – no monitoring of the ‘condition’ by those who ‘know best’ and no treatment offered by their managers. Only lies and collusion in the ‘Confessional’. Their ‘spiritual guides’, if they have them, are also colluding with RC twisted sexuality THEORY – its NOT ‘Theology’. Plethora of sexuality research and training in the secular world – keeping it ‘Catholic’ is vulgar. RCC is morally bankrupt and its lay trolls will continue to hold it up for their own nefarious reasons including financial.
The Parish ‘powerfuls’ remain hostile towards anyone challenging their practices and refuse to acknowledge that the checks and balances of Safeguarding in the UK are there to help and support. There are none so blind as those who do not see. Anyone challenging their anti Sgdg practices at even the ‘lowest’ level is seen as a pariah. Sweeping under the carpet remains paramount for the cleaners!
As the Tablet editorial, this week, has stated ‘People have the right to know the Truth.’ It is, after all, what all Christian religion is based on. We need to be patient, trust in God and the Truth about all forms of abuse will continue to unfold – but – only a Loving Lord God can and hopefully will choose to deal with the evil, through His chosen few labourers , perpetrated against children, babies, teenagers, women and men, boys and girls in the Catholic Church. Then there will be nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
For any who has a ‘conscience’ they already know that their Spirit is damaged and it is not the majority of people’s, the parishioners, fault – most of us have been eager to please and happy to trust….since childhood. End of.
Thank you Pat.
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When I saw you on Bedford Street, Belfast, Bishop Pat, during the week you appeared totally preoccupied and you never heard me shouting with the traffic noise. I can now understand your preoccupation.from from what you have posted on your blog today. I don’t think you are a well man yourself so I am sorry for maybe being presumptuous.

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I was in the process of bringing that priest for treatment.

I am very well – with the exception of a very sore back which I am currently having treated.

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I was surprised to see you Pat as I haven’t seen you for a long while in person which is why I shouted hello and you didn’t hear. I saw that you looked a bit in discomfort as you walked along hence my question about your well-being? You are always looking after others. I suppose not many bishops look out for sickly priests.

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8.51am
Might you have asked his permission first before publishing his note as he sent it in a private capacity and seemed surprised it was made available for public consumption?

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2:15
A respectful answer.

I’m offski…..says:
May 20, 2023 at 9:56 am

The comment was made May 20th, on Bishop Pat’s 25 year anniversary as Bishop blog at 9:56 by ‘I’m offski.’

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I beg your pardon Bishop Buckley, I never promised you no Rose Garden, along with the sunshine, there has to be a little pain sometimes!

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I’ve had enough to Pat. Our clergy our dropping dead all round us or getting gravely ill because of the amount we have on. It’s not sustainable.

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We know the Armagh priest who was with you in Belfast the other day. We are not daft Buckley.

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You have to make an appointment to see Bishop Sherrington as a cleric. I don’t think he would take any priest beyond his own door step let alone for a medical appointment.

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I am getting on in age as a priest in Belfast, Down and Connor and there is no chance the bishop in the past would even pick up the phone to a priest. Buckley was problematic but as I told Paddy at the time after Cahal you need to show some care. That was lacking then and the problem now. I am a bit old school. Care for your priests

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7:44
But only if they behave themselves..’ lol
Who in their right cotton picking brain could take advice from you!
Faithful Catholics are walking away from Church due to priests such as you.

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Cahal, Tony, Donal and Paddy never listened just like most of them presently. Noel sorta got there towards the end. It’s the same old faces and stale stuff in the RC Church. There hasn’t/won’t be many bishops taking their clergy for medical appointments anywhere in the world or anytime soon.

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Good luck to this priest on his retirement. The RCC is in serious trouble given that quite a lot of priests are nearing retirement age. Will the rules of the RCC club be changed to allow non priests to celebrate mass? Who will have the responsibility of keeping the coffers flowing? Apart from the ever increasing scandals coming to light, the RCC is in terminal decline. The days of fear and blind obedience to the organisation are coming to an end. They have no one to blame but themselves. Be sure your sins will find you out.

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Pat, I have a serious question for you.
Am I right in thinking you spend a lot of time attacking Christ’s Holy Church to draw people away from the Church and to another organisation?
If so, where do you expect people to worship?
Mainline Protestant Churches are closing down (God does not bless liberalism).
The only Protestant Churches which thrive are charismatic, conservative, and generally non-sacramental.
Orthodoxy generally either has no sense of mission, only catering for particular cultural groups or they spend the vast amount of their time on earth excommunicating one another and declaring this group and that group to be non-canonical.
So-called Independent Catholicism is a minefield of Heterodoxy, Theosophy (eg. Liberal Catholic Church), Fantacists, (eg. James Atkinson-Wake), Gnostics (eg Bishop William Blinkhorn), Hobbyist clergy (eg. Prince-Abbot Edmond III of San Luigi), female activists (Brigid Mary-Meehan), and legitimately defrocked clergy from other denominations (ahem… Ah yes, Archbishop Jonathan Blake).
We can’t all flock to the Larne oratory… So we try to make the Christ’s one, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church better. We pray for our flawed leaders… we don’t attack them. That is the solution to the problem.

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@7.04 wow! Excellent question! I would love to see Bishop Pat’s response to this one.
Pat can you answer this question in tomorrow’s blog post please?

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These clerical muppets at all ranks in the RCC believe it’s OK to ruin people’s lives for the sake of their priesthood-the preferential option in the RCC is their priesthood. Not the Gospel, not all of the doctrine of Christ Jesus, but their priesthood. Meanwhile boiler house bonking continues, covering up abuse continues, funding clerical rackets including MIAs AWOL’s, their gone but not forgotten’s continue, their seminarians exploratory sexual antics with or without poppers, financial frauds, etc.
If you or your child or loved one is ever abused by a priest or one of their lackeys you will be told ‘May Christ Jesus, be your consolation.’

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7:04
Many of your so-called flawed leaders are criminals. Christ’s Holy Church is bigger than RCC. Many of your flawed leaders and priests don’t even believe in God. Many clerics use Christ’s Holy Church as a gravy train -Sicka bishops, priests, and seminarians. We can gather together in small Christian communities without narcissistic parasitic power-hungry institutional ladder climbing clergy.
Bishop Pat is calling out abuse corruption and criminality in RCC branch of Christ’s Holy Church.

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7:43
Oh, it’s now become -they will know we are Christians by our lust by our lust. Re, priesthood, the frame of reference for Christianity is the Gospel
of Jesus Christ, not the Cure of Ars.

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7:04 Did it even strike you that Christ’s one holy Catholic and apostolic church, by its nature, can’t possibly need to be improved?
And incidentally literally everything you throw at other denominations in your angst at Pat Buckley’s imagined motives, can actually also be said about the R’C’ denomination, in whole or part.

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10:09
Wrong. Most clerics and members of Hierarchy don’t give a damn. Don’t conflate God with clergy.

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Question for 7.04pm. Did Jesus ask us to worship or did he ask us to FOLLOW? Does the RCC foster the development of spirituality so that we can understand what it means to live out Gospel values? In what age has the hierarchical church truly facilitated the notion of the people of God and the universal priesthood? Jesus would be horrified at the hierarchical church that has developed and what has been done in his name! I hope the priest who is central to the blog today finds peace and joy in life.

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We don’t need sacraments; we need grace.
The Sacraments are not grace: they are possibly signs of it, but they are not in themselves grace. Grace is available, depending on a person’s willingness to receive it, inside or outside the Sacraments.

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When did you take eye for eye or tooth for tooth recently if you take the Bible so literally? God help us from these biblical imbeciles.

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7.04: You make interesting points. Pars Oratory was born out of protest against the Catholic Church and its leaders. Pat was in conflict with his Bishop which caused him to declare himself an independent “catholic” priest, then an independent Bishop, validly but unlawfully consecrated. Since he left as an independent he has excoriated the institutional Church, much of it deserved, exposed hidden corruption and morally criminal behaviour. He has, in the process targeted many individual priests, sometimes for months or years in the (vain) hope that they might listen to him and have a complete turn around (metanoia) in their lives. I believe if Pat had founded Oratories at the very beginning as real, maningful and alternative options for all people to gather their collective wisdom and begin a new movement of hope, prayer, spirituality, mission outreach in the early Church’s vision of Christian communities, we might have had a renewal of faith and real Christianity of some kind. Pat chose not to do this. Those who were ordained by him were found to be unsuitable and were defrocked. There’s always a risk in founding something new, as we know from history. I think it’s wrong of Pat to think less of the many priests still in ministry and to be continually miserably downcast about us. We may not be shouting out loud about our mission but the majority of us are doing out utmost to make our parishes welcoming, kind, inclusive and as Christ-like as possible. It’s what we’re called to do and despite our feet of clay and many failings, we continue what we began at our ordination, seeking to live and be like HIM! What a task! What a challenge in today’s church and society. I wish the priest correspondent every blessing for his future. He speaks for many of us and we each respond differently to the existential crisis we’re living through.

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Well, there is a mixed bunch of comments here today. I do not know what to believe.
There have been some critical comments about Cahal Daly. I recall PB reporting on this blog some time ago that Cardinal Daly drove through the snow to be at the funeral of PB’s mother. If that is not caring I do not know what is.
Westminster has a committee for retired and sick clergy and they are visited and looked after well. I presume all the other dioceses are the same.
Families, friends and parishioners can surely rally round with hospital appointments.
Comments have been made about dwindling congregations. NOT in north London or south east Hertfordshire. Enfield Town mobbed on a Sunday. Standing room only at some of the Masses. Week day masses regularly attended. On line streaming is also popular. First Holy Communions on the last 2 Saturdays outstanding. Have look on the Enfield web site.
Is this priest the real deal? Is he cantankerous and unapproachable?

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@8.48pm A typical Monty reply. Who mentions Enfield yet got slung out of Enfield by his PP as like WGC too for being a piss head in the parish and total gossip about his PP’s.

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Thank you Bishop Pat for going above and beyond to help this priest. I am sure you can supply all the details as you are not a snow flake.

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Thanks for being there for him Pat. I am sure he appreciates it. You didn’t walk on by on the other side Patrick.

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