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SAINT GILBERT CHESTERTON ???

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Booze, cigars and a halo? Chesterton sainthood cause awaits approval
• CRUX Elise Harris Feb 7, 2019 SENIOR CORRESPONDENT

ROME – A leading scholar behind the push to advance the canonization of celebrated writer G.K. Chesterton has published a new book making a case for the sainthood of the “prolific” 20th century author, hitting back at critics who see him as unsuited for a halo.
Dale Ahlquist, president of the American Chesterton Society and the Society of Gilbert Keith Chesterton, in December 2018 published Knight of the Holy Ghost, which explores Chesterton’s life and writings and responds to arguments from those who say he was too fat, drank too much, smoked too much and harbored anti-Semitic sentiments.
In comments to Crux, Ahlquist said when people think of Chesterton, they often ask themselves, “How is it that a 300-pound cigar-smoking London journalist could be a saint? He doesn’t fit the image of a saint, because of his amazing size and that halo of smoke around his head.”
However, while the famed author might not fit the bill of pious saints of the past who prayed their way into heaven in monasteries and convents, he exhibited heroic humility, Ahlquist said. In his view, Chesterton was “a great genius who really had the ability to annihilate his opponents if he wanted to, but he always treated them with charity.”
“He always gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. He never flaunted his great genius, but he always made everyone feel better about themselves,” he said, and voiced hope that Chesterton’s cause for sainthood, which recently finished the initial stages, would soon move forward.
One of the best-known writers in the 20th century, Gilbert Keith Chesterton was born May 9, 1874, and died June 14, 1936. A convert to Catholicism, he was widely considered one of the most influential writers of his time.
While in the United States he is best known for his book Orthodoxy, a groundbreaking defense of Christianity, Chesterton is most famous in his homeland for his Father Brown series, a collection of short stories about a priest detective more dedicated to converting the criminals he catches than incarcerating them.
In 2013, Bishop Peter Doyle of Northampton ordered that an initial investigation into the possibility of Chesterton’s sainthood be opened and tapped Canon John Udris for the task.
Udris completed his preliminary investigation in the summer of 2018 and filed his final report with Doyle. According to Ahlquist, the next step would be for Doyle to approach the Vatican’s Congregation for the Causes of Saints for a nihil obstat, meaning a declaration that “nothing stands in the way” of the cause going forward.
Once that happens, a “petitioner,” meaning the one who formally asks for the cause to be opened, will be named and selects a postulator in charge of carrying the cause forward.
Ahlquist said he does not know whether any of these steps have yet been taken, but voiced hope that there will be fresh movement soon and that the Society of Gilbert Keith Chesterton would be chosen as the petitioner.
“We’re hoping it will be very soon,” he said, but said that in the meantime, devotion to Chesterton continues to grow not only in England, but internationally, with a large portion of devotees coming from the United States, Italy, Croatia, Brazil and Argentina.
One on the main intentions people ask Chesterton’s intercession for is fertility, Ahlquist said, noting that Chesterton and his wife Frances were unable to have children. Other people ask for healing, he said, noting that there have already been potential cases of healings brought forward that could be presented as potential miracles later in the sainthood process.
The main stumbling blocks, he said, are accusations of anti-Semitism and a lack of temperance, as Chesterton was a large man who smoked and drank a lot, and who died after the Nazi party had already risen to power in Germany but before the Holocaust.
Calling Chesterton anti-Semitic is “a very tragic portrayal, because it’s simply not true,” Ahlquist said, and insisted that despite Chesterton’s size, he was no glutton. Rather, he said, most accounts of Chesterton’s life suggest that he ate little, meaning he likely had a glandular condition that caused him to gain weight.
“As for his drinking, it was all very convivial, he wasn’t a solitary drinker, he wasn’t a drunk, but he defended drinking at the time of prohibition,” Ahlquist said, adding that this last detail “has to be remembered, he was fighting against the puritans.”
In Ahlquist’s view, Chesterton was “prophetic” in his writings, speaking to a modern crisis in politics, education, economics and the at-times troubled relationship between family and state, despite having died nearly 100 years ago.
“He really had a handle on a Catholic interpretation of the modern world. The other thing is that he really

PAT SAYS

What is this rush to create saints all about.

Is is about trying to turn men into gods?

There are some people like Francis of Assisi who made a profound impact on the world.

Most people are a mixture of good and bad.

The rush to make John Paul 11 and Mother Teresa saints was obscene politicking.

Let G K Chesterson be remembered as a great of literature.

We don’t need another another upper class saint, booze anf cigars apary.

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DUBLIN PRIEST RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT HERMIT PRIEST DAVID JONES.

A Dublin priest contributor to this blog, who comments under the name BRUNO has raised concerns about the Meath Diocese hermit priest Father David Jones.

He raises these concerns after watching the hermit’s many contributions on his own YouTube channel.

These films have titles such as

TIME IN FRANCE – TRAPPISTS, CARTHUSIANS AND NORBERTINES.

TIME IN THE USA – CAMALOLDESE AND CARTHUSIANS.

TIME IN THE UK – AMPLEFORTH AND PRINKISH.

TIME IN ITALY – NORBERTINES AND CAMSOLDESE.

TIME IN IRELAND – ROSCREA AND KILNACROTT.

TIME IN FRANCE – CISTERCIANS, NORBERTINES AND LA GRANDE TRAPE.

Apparently he also tried to de a diocesan hermit in the Diocese of Wrexham in Wales. The bishop refused.

On his videos he talks a lot about perpetual silence and seclusion – yet he is all over YouTube and is seen out shopping at least three times a week and driving a car.

Bruno wonders why has he been in so many monasteries in so many countries.

Especially since monks make a fourth vow of STABILITY – meaning to stay in the one place.

Bruno calls out attention to his video on Italy where he says he gave a girl the kiss of peace on the lips because she asked for it!

Bruno wonders if the Meath Safeguarding Office has checked him out as he often says Mass with boys and even has boys serving him in the hermitage.

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Bruno also brings up the question of David’s conversation with Cahal Daly advising him to stay away from Kilnacrott till the mess dies down.

Of course it was Daly who had dealings with the Norbertine Abbot General in Rome about Smyth.

Daly knew all about Smyth for a long time before the rest of us did.

Bruno also wonders who pays for the professional videos that appear on YouTube?

Bruno wonders who “manages” Jones’ activities in the Diocese of Meath?

PAT SAYS:

I must say that Father “Bruno” makes many valid points and asks many valid questions.

It seems to be that Jones has been from pillar to post all over the world.

What is at the heart of all this moving and instability?

Are we dealing with personality disorders or mental health issues?

FATHER JONES HAVING A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION ABOUT EVIL SPIRITS

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POPE ADMITS SEXUAL ABUSE OF NUNS BY BISHOPS AND PRIESTS!

Pope admits clerical abuse of nuns including sexual slavery

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Pope Francis made the admission while visiting the Middle East
Pope Francis has admitted that clerics have sexually abused nuns, and in one case they were kept as sex slaves.
He said in that case his predecessor, Pope Benedict, was forced to shut down an entire congregation of nuns who were being abused by priests.
It is thought to be the first time that Pope Francis has acknowledged the sexual abuse of nuns by the clergy.
He said the Church was attempting to address the problem but said it was “still going on”.

Pope Francis made the comments on Tuesday to reporters while on a historic tour of the Middle East.
He admitted that priests and bishops had abused nuns, but said the Church was aware of the issue and “working on it”.
“It’s a path that we’ve been on,” he said.
“Pope Benedict had the courage to dissolve a female congregation which was at a certain level, because this slavery of women had entered it – slavery, even to the point of sexual slavery – on the part of clerics or the founder.”
Alessandro Gisotti of the Vatican press office later told CBS News that the order in question had been based in France.
Pope Francis said sexual abuse of nuns was an ongoing problem but happened largely in “certain congregations, predominantly new ones”.
Last November, the Catholic Church’s global organisation for nuns denounced the “culture of silence and secrecy” that prevented them from speaking out.
Just days ago the Vatican’s women’s magazine, Women Church World, condemned the abuse,saying in some cases nuns were forced to abort priests’ children – something Catholicism forbids.
The magazine said the #MeToo movement meant more women were now coming forward with their stories.

PAT SAYS

Francis is only acknowledging a truth we all know.

How can Francis sleep at night knowing about all the abuse and corruption he knows about?

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ALL RELIGIONS BEFORE GOD

Pope Francis signs peace declaration on ‘Human Fraternity’ with Grand Imam

One paragraph has caused controversy, but a theologian says it must be read in the proper context

Catholics, Muslims and all who believe in God must work together to build a culture of love, peace and human fraternity, Pope Francis said in a joint statement he signed with Ahmed el-Tayeb, Grand Imam of al-Azhar, during an interreligious meeting in Abu Dhabi.

The document, entitled “A Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together,” invited “all persons who have faith in God and faith in human fraternity to unite and work together so that it may serve as a guide for future generations to advance a culture of mutual respect in the awareness of the great divine grace that makes all human beings brothers and sisters.”

The signing took place February 4 during Pope Francis’ visit to Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates, a trip intended to promote interreligious dialogue and give support to the country’s Christian minority. Francis is the first Pope ever to visit the Arabian peninsula.

The document discussed the importance of religion in building a peaceful and free society and the challenges of an increasingly secular world. It condemned all practices and policies detrimental to human life and freedom.

Within a paragraph about human freedom, the document states that religious plurality is willed by God. “The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings,” the document states.

“This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept.”

This statement must be read in the proper context and perspective, said Dr Chad Pecknold, associate professor of systematic theology at The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.

“In sensitive inter-religious contexts, it is fitting for the Holy See to acknowledge that despite serious theological disagreements, Catholics and Muslims have much in common, such as a common belief that human beings are ‘willed by God in his wisdom,’” Pecknold told CNA.

“The idea that God wills the diversity of color, sex, race and language is easily understood, but some may find it puzzling to hear the Vicar of Christ talk about God willing the diversity of religions,” he noted.

“It is puzzling, and potentially problematic, but in the context of the document, the Holy Father is clearly referring not to the evil of many false religions, but positively refers to the diversity of religions only in the sense that they are evidence of our natural desire to know God.”

“God wills that all men come to know Him through the free choice of their will, and so it follows that a diversity of religions can be spoken about as permissively willed by God without denying the supernatural good of one true religion,” he added.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church speaks about the Church’s relationship with the Muslims: “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

The Second Vatican Council taught further that “the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained” through the “Catholic Church alone.”

Among other things, the document also condemned terrorism. It called for equal rights and access to education for women, called on believers to care for the poor and vulnerable, and called on world leaders “to work strenuously to spread the culture of tolerance and of living together in peace; to intervene at the earliest opportunity to stop the shedding of innocent blood and bring an end to wars, conflicts, environmental decay and the moral and cultural decline that the world is presently experiencing.”

As Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Tayeb holds one of the most prominent titles in Sunni Islam, and is head of the the al-Azhar Mosque and al-Azhar University in Egypt.

Tayeb is considered a tolerant and moderate Muslim leader, and has rejected connections to the Muslim Brotherhood and condemned ISIS. He also allowed a woman to remain at al-Azhar University after she was facing expulsion for allegedly hugging a male student. However, he has also said he believes that apostasy from Islam is punishable by death.

In the interreligious meeting, Pope Francis said that people of different religions must work to build the future together “or there will not be a future.”

“The time has come when religions should more actively exert themselves, with courage and audacity, and without pretense, to help the human family deepen the capacity for reconciliation, the vision of hope and the concrete paths of peace,” he said.

PAT SAYS

I agree with Francis that God wills diversity.

On my episcopal arms my motto says

TOLERANCE – LOVE – DIVERSITY.

I believe that a good Jew, Muslim or Hindu will be as welcome in heaven as a good catholic.

Spirituality and Faith are God’s gifts.

Religions are manmade institutions and can be a mixture of good and evil.

I increasingly dislike Francis.

But on this one he is right.

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MY TRIP TO KERRY/CLOYNE PART 11

I INTERUPTED MY BLOG ABOUT MY TRIP TO KERRY AND CLOYNE TO PUBLISH A BLOG ABOUT FATHER GRAHAM COLBY RIP.
I now return to Part 11 of my Kerry/Cloyne trip.
My principle reason for going to Kerry was to celebrate a wedding for the Travelling Community.
That wedding took place on Friday, February 1st in the Parish of Tarbert.
One particular feature of this wedding – and indeed of most Traveller’s wedding is the exotic dress worn by the main participants.

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THE SITUATIONS IN THE DIOCESES OF KERRY AND CLOYNE

It has been common knowledge among clergy and on this blog that most Irish dioceses now have an increasing number of priests not observing celibacy – some with women and most with men.

It appears that Armagh is particular rampant with gay priests on apps like Grindr and others involved with other priests and laymen.

Armagh has had Rory Coyle, Eugene McCamley etc – and there are others like the youngish priest who came on to the farmer’s son at WYD.

Down and Connor is bad too with gay priests active on the A1 motorway and hanging around toilets in the North West.

Meath has its fair share too – with truck stop priests and others at WYD.

My impression is that Kerry and Cloyne is as bad as any of them – with Cloyne being the very worst.

Cloyne produced the sex on the altar with a seminarian Lomansey.

It also has the older priest living in his presbytery the Eastern European youth.

I’m reliably informed that Cloyne has a whole nasty nest of actively gay priests of all ages and this nest consists of very nasty and aggressive men who are well known to the bishop, Crean, and to the rest of the priests.

The stories of these men will continue to emerge and become public.

Kerry has its King Puck and a number of others – but Kerry does not seem as bad as Cloyne.

And of course Ray Brown is as useless as tits on a bull – and increasingly he is becoming disliked by the priests over his domineering manner.

Of course there is a whole other story in Dublin where Diarmuid Coddle Martin is ignoring things – and in his own way contributing to them.

The Catholic hierarchy and clergy tortured the rest of us about sex for decades and centuries.

There are now falling apart themselves – and at the centre of their collapse is rampant homosexual sex.

Its fitting that the weapon they used on us is now the weapon that is destroying them.

I have made many more friends in Kerry and Cloyne on my recent trip and they promise to keep me abreast of ongoing and upcoming scandals.

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FATHER GRAHAM COLBY RIP

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FATHER GRAHAM COLBY OF THE ORATORY WAS BURIED YESTERDAY AFTER 12 NOON MASS AT THE ORATORY IN LARNE.

PAT’S HOMILY

“Many funerals are celebrated by priests and ministers who did not know the deceased when they lived.

That can lead to the celebrating priest or minister painting a very unrealistic picture of the departed person.

That is not happening today. I knew Father Graham for 20 years and he has lived  near me in Larne for 15 of those years.

Most of Graham’s friends had a love/no love lost relationship with him. And t hat was he and I too.

Our relationship was a mixture of warmth and frustration.

Graham was born in the South of England. He parents were very aloof and they gave Graham the impression that was not as good and others – which gave him a feeling of inferiority and a fear of groups of people.

This left him feeling rejected, hurt and at times angry and lonely. 

He was born into the Church of England but very early felt called to the Catholic Church and so he converted. Steadily he felt called to priesthood and having a great love for tradition and the Latin Mass he joined the Society of St. Pius X at Econe in Switzerland. He loved the rebel archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

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Eventually he moved to a French archdiocese and later returned to England where was ordained by an independent catholic bishop.

In the early 2000’s he found himself without a bishop and appealed to me to adopt him – and I did. He joined The Oratory Society in 2004.

Graham would have been a perfect candidate for one of those TV shows about hoarders who fill their homes with attractive and unattractive bric-a-bac. 

Those who involved in his two most moves knew to our cost, the amount of clutter he had collected over the past 50 or 60 years. 

Because of his childhood experienced very severe anxiety condition and also a very debilitating essential tremor. He also developed a social phobia.

He tried handling these conditions with copious betablockers which did his heart no good. He also developed an addiction to what Ian Paisley used to call the Devil’s Buttermilk. And that became a very big problem.

Last year I spent a solid 6 months driving Graham to all kinds of doctors and counsellor. Eventually we arrived at the day before he was due to go into hospital for detox and rerhab. We had one last appointment that day with a consultant who told him that the treatment would cost £20,000 and therefore he asked Graham to declare that he would make a very serious effort to decide not to drink again. In his posh English accent Graham replied

ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE PESKY TEMPERANCE SPOIL SPORTS THAT WOULD DEPRIVE A MAN OF A GLASS OF WINE ON CHRISTMAS DAY”?

We were both quickly ushered out of the doctor’s office – and that was the end of detox and rehab.

There was no detox or rehab and so it was back to cider soup.

Many people were very good to Graham.

There was Brother Jim – a fellow Little Brother – who cooked for him, did his laundry and was at his beck and call night and day. It started off well but Graham’s demands became impossible and there was a divorce.

There was his ex army chum – Colin – an army cooked who made him many nice dinners. But that relationship was choppy too.

There were Carole and Kevin who had him in their home and visited him in hospital.

There was Alison – the supervisor of the fold we got him into some time ago.

There was Angela who cleaned and shopped for him.

And then there was Father Paul – an Oratory priest – who visited him regularly – listened patiently to his woes and who washed his laundry.

Life throws up all kinds of problems in our paths. Often we find solutions. But some problems have no human solutions.

And that’s when Doctor God steps in!

Graham had finally run out of options and solutions and God said: “Big Fella, its time you came home to me”.

That happened at 2 am last Friday morning when Graham, already unconscious simply stopped breathing.

He heart and liver had failed.

St Augustin said

” OUR HEARTS WERE MADE FOR YOU O LORD AND WE SHALL NEVER FIND REST UNTIL WE REST IN YOU!

Graham is finally at rest – no anxiety – no essential tremor.

And for that today we say” 

THANKS BE TO GOD.

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IN THE STEPS OF KING PUCK – NOT SAINT PAUL

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AS SOME READERS WILL KNOW I SPENT FROM THURSDAY UNTIL SATURDAY IN TRALEE, KERRY – THE PARISH IN WHICH KING PUCK (AKA FATHER SEAN JONES) WAS APPOINTED CURATE.

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In spite of a lot of pressure not to the bishop of Kerry – a certain Ray Browne – ordained King Puck – who had a certain reputation in Maynooth.

We met several people who now know King Puck – one being the choir mistress of the parish Chamber Choir – Martina.

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Martina – who also works in Cassidy’s Restaurant in Tralee served us a beautiful meal there on Friday evening.

By the way, if you are ever in Tralee the two best eateries are Cassidys and Bella Bia. Lovely food, great staff and very reasonably priced.

King Puck joined the Chamber Choir as a singer last week.

On Friday evening we joined Tim Landers – the Tralee native who is a well known Irish actor – having had parts in FAIR CITY and GAME OF THRONES.

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We joined Tim for a drink in Paddy Macs pub in Tralee.

SHORT BLOG TODAY

My blog today is a bit short as I have the funeral of a priest of The Oratory Society, today, Sunday in Larne – Father Graham Colby.

I’ll tell you about Father Colby on Tuesday.

Tomorrow – Part 11 of the Tralee blog.

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GORGEOUS TO BE HOSPITAL CHAPLAIN

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GORGEOUS GETTING HIS CHAPLAINCY CERTIFICATE

A DUBLIN PRIEST HAS REVEALED THAT GORGEOUS IS IN TRAINING TO BE A CHAPLAIN IN A DUBLIN HOSPITAL.

His training course took place in the St. John of God psychiatric hospital in Dublin.

The plan for Gorgeous seems to have him as a deacon chaplain at first and if all goes well to ordain him a priest at a later stage.

The Dublin priest wrote:

“REVEREND MR GORGEOUS

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See photo of Dec 3 2018 graduation at St. John of God Hospital Stillorgan.

The Rev Mr now has to take this certificate of cpe and portfolio of studies/practice as a trainee hospital chaplain to be interviewed by the RC committee of the Association of Clinical Pastoral Education Ireland Ltd – a self selected organisation that decides who is qualified to be a hospital chaplain’

This committee operates under the bishop’s conference – so Gorgeous will get a very well paid chaplaincy post – vacancy at St. Vincent’s Elm Park where his old cathedral chum has been demoted to – all pension, tax, generous car mileage etc.

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He can play deaconate dress up or dress down when at work.

And then be priested and take a pay cut !! when Bishop Farrell – Cardinal Farrell’s brother – returns to Dublin as short term metropolitan tasked to reorganise the Irish dioceses to 17 which the bishops have been bold enough not to implement.

Will Coddles secretary be going to Rome as well?

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Genuine Homo Macho Dom”

PAT SAYS:

I think that Dermo has given us all a run around the park.

We were led to believe that Gorgeous; ecclesiastical career had ended.

Then we find him living in an empty Dublin presbytery.

We were led to believe that he had joined the Gardaí and was pursuing other careers.

Now we find out that he is still a deacon, still living in the presbytery, being sent to train as a hospital chaplain and to be appointed a chaplain, possible in Elm Park – where his old chum from the Pro Cathedral is also a chaplain.

And then that bishop/archbishop Farrell may ordain him a priest.

As yes indeed, the clerical and episcopal clique look after each other well.

Play the game, and no matter what, they have your back.

Do them special “favours” and you’re on the the pig’s back for life.

Jesus wept!

 

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VATICAN PRIEST STEPS DOWN – SOUGHT SEX IN CONFESSIONAL

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Fr. Herman Geissler

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An Austrian priest and theologian has resigned from his position at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, amid charges that he made sexual advances toward a woman in the confessional several years ago.
The priest maintains his innocence.
Fr. Hermann Geissler, 53, has been an official within the CDF since 1993, and in 2009 became the head of the congregation’s teaching office.
A statement released on January 29 said that Geissler “affirms that the accusation made against him is untrue, and asks that the canonical process already initiated continue. He also reserves the right for possible civil legal action.”
Alessandro Gisotti, interim director of the Holy See Press Office confirmed to CNA that allegations against Geissler are being examined by the CDF, which is the Vatican office charged with reviewing allegations of this kind.
CDF prefect Cardinal Luis Ladaria accepted the priest’s resignation, which was submitted on January 28. The statement said Geissler decided to step down “to limit the damage already done to the Congregation and to his Community.”
Geissler is a prominent scholar of Blessed Cardinal Henry Newman and a member of the Familia spiritualis Opus (FSO), informally known as “Das Werk.”
The accusations against him became public at the end of September, when a (now-former) member of “Das Werk,” Doris Wagner, claimed in a lengthy piece in the German newspaper DIE ZIET that she had been sexually harassed in the confessional by a member of the religious community she then belonged to, identified in the article as “Hermann G.”
Wagner again spoke of the accusations last November, saying at a conference in Rome that she had received unwanted sexual advances and been “groomed” for sex by “a priest working to this day as capo ufficio at the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith,” according to La Croix International.
The solicitation of a sin against the sixth commandment within the context of confession is considered in Church law to be a “grave delict,” or offence, for a which a priest can be dismissed from the clerical state.

PAT SAYS:

The crime of a priest using the confessional for sex is a most serious canonical crime.

To use a holy entity for sexual gain is such a contradiction.

That a member of the Congretion of Divine Worship which investigates clerical sexual crimes committed this crime is most serious.

It shows that the RC church at the highest level is sexually compromised is devastating.

This is a destroying development.

It is Armageddon.


 

FIRST NIGHT IN KERRY

We made our way from Larne to Tralee yesterday – distance 300+ miles – 7 hour journey.

We stopped in the Dunraven Arms hotel in Adare for lunch wit h a Cloyne priest who wanted to discuss the rampant homosexuality in Cloyne and in particular of the case of the PP living with a young Eastern European male.

On then to Tralee where King Puck is a curate.

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After our long journey we had a meal in the Bella Bia Italian restaurant in Tralee.

Just Euro 15 for the pre theatre menu which was as tasty as it was reasonable.

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PAT WITH NOREEN – OWNER OF THE BELLA BIA, TRALEE

Tomorrow I have a wedding and more meetings.

In upcoming blogs I will be dealing with Cloyne/Kerry issues.

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GERMAN DIOCESE ACCEPTS CELIBATE GAY SEMINARIANS

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From Kirche und Leben:
The Catholic Archdiocese of Paderborn in Germany will expressly accept homosexual candidates for ordination, according to seminary rector Michael Menke-Peitzmeyer, provided that they observe celibacy.

“We must distinguish between a homosexual orientation of a person and homosexual practice,” he said.

This applies to all sexual orientations. Homosexual practice would be a reason for exclusion, according to Menke-Peitzmeyer.

POPE TELLS BISHOPS NOT TO ACCEPT GAY SEMINARIANS

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – Pope Francis warned Italian bishops this week to vet carefully applicants to the priesthood and reject anyone they suspected might be homosexual, local media reported on Thursday.
“Keep an eye on the admissions to seminaries, keep your eyes open,” the pope was quoted as saying by newspaper La Stampa’s Vatican Insider service. “If in doubt, better not let them enter.”
The Vatican did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the remarks, which Vatican Insider and Il Messaggero said were made at a closed-door gathering on Monday.
Francis’s meeting with Italian bishops came just a day after a Chilean man who suffered clerical sexual abuse quoted the pope as telling him in a private conversation that God had made him gay and loved him that way.
The Vatican declined to comment on the report which touched off fierce media speculation that Francis was softening the Church stance on homosexuality. It has previously condemned homosexuality as an immoral disorder if actively practised.
In a 2005 document, released under Francis’s predecessor Pope Benedict, the Vatican said the Church could admit into the priesthood those who had clearly overcome homosexual tendencies for at least three years.
But it said practicing homosexuals and those with “deep-seated” gay tendencies and those who support a gay culture should be barred.
The reported comments to the bishops might appease conservatives who have grown alarmed at the way Francis has dramatically shifted the language the Church has used about homosexuality since his election in 2013.
“If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?” the pope said on his first overseas trip in 2013. In 2016, he said he had ministered to people with unfulfilled homosexual tendencies as well as homosexuals who were not able to remain chaste, as the Church asks them to.
“When a person arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say: ‘Go away because you are homosexual’,” he said.
Pope Benedict wrote in 2005 that homosexuality was “a strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil”.
Reporting by Crispian Balmer; Editing by Matthew Mpoke Bigg
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