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DUBLIN PRIEST PRESIDES OVER FUNERAL GLORIFYING CRIME AND CRIMINALS.

HUGH KAVANAGH

A week ago a Dublin parish priest from Tallaght presided over the funerals of three young criminal thugs who were killed as the Garda chased their getaway car.

Funeral Mass

During the Mass of Dean Maguire people shouted:

DEAN – YOU FUCKING LEGEND”.

The banner below was on the altar:

The banner, glorifying the crimes of burglary and armed robbery read:

“YOU KNOW THE SCORE

GET ON THE FLOOR

DON’T BE FUNNY,

SHOW ME THE MONEY’

The offerty procession of the funeral contained the tools of criminality and burglary – a screw driver, a stanley knife etc.

The funeral flowers also glorified crime.

The night before the funeral the hearse was driven through Dublin city in a convoy of criminar cars and jeeps which drove through red lights.

The DUBLIN CRIMINAL FRATERNITY got dozens of young men, wearing Rolex watches and driving four wheel beach cars to drive around areas glorifying the dead thugs.

Here is an interview on the RTE liveline programme presented by Joe Duffy:

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/21985747/

PAT SAYS:

This priest, Hugh Kavanagh, who does not seem to be the brightest button on the shirt, seems to have a history of mingling with parishioners in rough areas and not challenging misbehaviour. Of course irrational people love that.

Two years ago, the then Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin said very clearly the CRIMINAL SHOW FUNERALS should not be allowed in churches.

Those instructions were massively ignored on this occasion.

WAS FR KAVANAGH POWERLESS?

My impression is that Kavanagh is weak and a people pleaser!

He should have intervened, had the banner and flowers removed from the church and banned the glorification of criminality in the offertory procession.

And if he met resistance he should have walked off the altar.

If a gun was then literally put to his head, he could have continued and told afterwards that he celebrated at gunpoint.

But Kavanagh said nothing and did nothing.

OTHER PRIESTS:

FATHER DONAL ROCHE told the Mail and Irish Times:

Donal Roche

Father Donal Roche, who did not conduct the service but was at the funeral to help with Covid-19 regulations, told RTÉ Liveline: ‘It was the most disturbing liturgy I have ever been at. There was a sense of restlessness, and the priest officiating was up against it.’

He told The Irish Times he was unaware of the offerings and had not read the banner but said they were ‘terrible’, while describing the eulogies as ‘very strange’.    

Father Roche added that there was no mention of the truck driver who was hospitalised with injuries to his legs after the three men collided with the lorry. 

Father Roche later said that he thought he was going to be assaulted at the funeral.

THE FUTURE

Dermot Farrell should ban all future show funerals.

He should remove Fr Kavanagh from his current parish and reassign him as a sign that a priest’s inaction is not acceptable.

The Garda need to be given wider powers to tackle the growing criminal problem in Dublin.

They should be allowed to shoot armed criminals without facing any discipline.

The future of Dublin and Ireland is threatened.

The enemies are the criminals and drug dealers.

I have no sympathy for the three killed – apart from the grief of their families.

In fact Ireland is safer without them.

115 replies on “DUBLIN PRIEST PRESIDES OVER FUNERAL GLORIFYING CRIME AND CRIMINALS.”

1) purple vestments should have been worn 2) why a Mass? Did he practice his faith? 3) the pall should have been placed over his gangster coffin 4) no eulogy 5) no banners or inappropriate flowers.

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Don’t matter where it was. It should not have been allowed in the church at all. Imagine you were one of the victims of his robbery and were told to get on the floor fearing for your life. How would you feel seeing that message glorifying his diabolical behaviour inside a RC church? Yet, if priests are now having sex on altars I get the impression that the concept of sacredness has long since vanished from the RCC in Ireland.

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Anon at 10.14am
This👇-indeed re your comments below. Rcc have only themselves to blame for.
How would you feel seeing that message glorifying his diabolical behaviour inside a RC church? Yet, if priests are now having sex on altars I get the impression that the concept of sacredness has long since vanished from the RCC in Ireland.

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10.14: If “priests” – are there 100’s to your knowledge? You are thick, thick, thick….One incident with one priest happened. Stop creating lies. This funeral should not have been allowed to be dominated by thugs. Where were the police: they knew these men were gurrier criminals and should have been more visibly present at the Church.

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Roman Catholics blame everyone else and never ever take responsibility for their behaviour @11:03

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@11.03. Its not one incident. I bet you used to say that in relation to clerical child sexual abuse too. +Pat has already informed us of other incidents and then there was the recent case of the priest and two hookers in the US having sex on the altar. So these are not lies but your ability to open your eyes to the current rot in the RCC is troubling.

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Pat, I think your asssult on Fr. Kavanagh is regrettable. A kinder, more compassionate and christian pastor you won’t find. That aside, as I said before I’ve had similar incidents where thugs took charge of funerals and I felt very threatened but I improvised the mass to keep it as short as possible. As priests we all want to be kind to families in their loss and grief. We must offer God’s mercy to all. However, after the recent incidents, I believe the Bishops, along with Gardai must agree to guidelines which will prevent such situations happening again. There is much I could say but I am aware of garda investigations into incidents. Personally from here on if I am aware of potential for trouble as happened last week, I will refuse to allow the Church be used for the glorification of criminal activity. Your suggestion that Fr. Kavanagh be removed is outrageous and nonsensical. He is an exceptionally good human being and is able to reach people whom others can’t embrace. I’m of the view also that if any priest refused to officiate at such funerals, he’d be excoriated.. Pat, it’s a dilemma but I believe we must act now and not allow these occasions to be moments for thuggery. Our Justice and Court system needs to bring these thugs to justice. We’ve had too many incidents like this in our country and churches.

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Don’t confuse the forgiveness of sins with covering them up and ignoring them. Holy Scripture is very clear that we should confront Christians with their sins.

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Which post are you, Hugh Phillips referring to?
Why don’t you, and the many others who similarly comment on other’s contributions, specify to whom or what you are referring? Failure to do so relegates your comments to the wastebasket of vacuity!

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Bishop Pat,
Having listened to the clip of Fr. Kavanagh on Joe Duffy I have no sympathy whatever for him. He comes across as an empty headed people pleaser unable to tell right from wrong. If I’m right, I think this is the same idiot who throughout the pandemic has been conducting first communion ceremonies and confirmations in Rowlagh and Neilstown in Clondalkin.
He has been reported to Dermot Farrell for his maverick behavior but guess what? nothing has been done about this man. They huff and they puff but nobody blows the house down in Dublin.
This funeral was a finger to every believer in Dublin. and the fool who presided over it should be called to account. Our church has become the laughing stock…….
What next? A dildo in the offertory procession of a rapist? held aloft by a brainless cleric??

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Pat, Hughie Kavanagh was always a gormless poor soul even in seminary days. Never the sharpest knife in the block he has ploughed a furrow in every parish he served in. He needs to be liked and plays the clown to win approval. In his desire to be everyone’s friend he has landed himself in this mess. I feel sorry for the poor crator, he means well but should be reined in.

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The priest who conducted the service is a coward – no balls or backbone – this wasn’t a funeral it was a travesty, a blasphemy and a pastiche – a mockery of the victims of crime, a celebration of evil and a platform for the criminal underclass of Dublin to flaunt, taunt and intimidate. Shame on the priest who conducted it, shame on the clergy who attended and shame on the diocese which allowed this sham funeral to go ahead.
This was truly a Satanic Mass glorifying in the darkness and riding tough shod over the law abiding people of Dublin and victims of crime.
What the clergy were afraid – poor baby’s – grow some, stand up for what you believe in – what you were afraid you might get a good kicking or worse – well if you had your reputation might have been salvaged as it is it is in tatters.

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Why would anyone be surprised at this. The priest is a minister of a church whose bishops think it is okay to say the victims of clerical sex abuse tempted the priest. Several have claimed not to know that abuse is criminal. The church has actively helped its clergy abuse children and evade prosecution.
This funeral is only an extension of the church’s culture.

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11.15: Your deliberate conflating of issues, child abuse and criminal’s funeral, is odious. There is absolutely not the slightest of connections. You are a big fat idiot. Rein in your mouth and find your brain.

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Yes there is, ‘father’.
Did you think paedophilia was the only crime actively encouraged by the hierarchy? For this reason zero tolerance law enforcement has spectacular results – if you pull someone in for something small you have a good chance of linking them to loads of other stuff.
What’s that quote Magna Carta uses, ‘riddled with corruption’ or something.
Interesting you immediately leap in with fat as an insult, anyone would think you frequent gay bath houses and have imbibed the culture. Have a great day off.

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9:51
To make it even clearer for you. Anyone with any moral sense would look at the criminal history of the RC church, conclude there was something very fishy and steer clear. Ergo anyone continuing to represent or contribute to the organization which the US was forced to use RICO laws on, lacks a moral sense and is an accessory to the organisations crimes.
This means YOU, dimwit.

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Anon at 9.51: What an expression- Rein in your mouth and find your brain!! Just live it…so many idiots just shoot their mouths off…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤤🤤🤤🤤😲😲🤡🤡🤡🤡….clowns..

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The Irish Times 26/07/2021
“On Friday, Fr Hugh Kavanagh, who said the funeral Mass, said he did not believe the liturgy had been hijacked, though he said he had not known what items would be brought up as offertory gifts.” An extraordinary claim given the description of what happened by Fr Tony Roche “Maguire’s send-off set the tone, leaving the prior of the Dominican Church of St Mary’s in old Tallaght village, Fr Donal Roche, struggling to cope with mourners’ conduct. A mild mannered, soft-spoken man, he tried to regulate the numbers entering in line with pandemic restrictions, but was ignored. Plastic tape sealing off pews was ripped away, and people sat where they wanted. Few wore masks. Even fewer paid attention to the liturgy, walking in and out during the funeral Mass. At one stage, Fr Roche told the congregation he would halt proceedings if they did not show some respect.”

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Irrespective of the priest who officiated at the funeral in Tallaght, there are serious issues to be discussed for such similar funerals in the future. Referencing to Fr. Hugh’s intelligence and weakness followed by an edict that he shiuld be moved by the Archbishop as a warning is utter nonsense. Why not put him in the bold corner!! If Fr. Hugh has any weakness it is a powerful gospel weakness for the poor, the needy, the hurt and wounded, the very broken among us. I am quite certain, knowing this priest, that he was full of anguish over what happened and even more full of empathy for the families of all concerned. I admire this “gospel weakness and preference”. In a most distressing, challenging and difficult situation, any priest would have been perturbed and caught off guard. Rather than tear apart the priest, let’s reflect on what we really need to do as a society – civil and ecclesial – to draw up guidelines which clarify an approach to potential repeat funerals. Priests are not responsible for policing these funerals. Those of us faced with unusual funerals spend time with families and sadly, sometimes thugs turn up and take over. Totally unacceptable but we need a thorough investigation and response as to how we deal with such challenges from here on. Also the approach by certain undertakers requires investigating. This issue shouldn’t be about castigating Fr. Hugh and treating him as if he was responsible and thereby be moved…The very suggestion smacks yet again of Pat scoring points against the Archbishop and priests. God bless Fr. Hugh in his ministry of giving so generously of his time with the marginalised and for his inspiration – spiritually, prayerfully and pastorally.

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Fr. Hugh on Liveline was cringe factor. He came across as evasive, argumentative and insincere. This man has no backbone, no truth and should be reassigned to a rural parish. How much did these thugs pay him?

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Wait for the lies to start about diocesan accounting and funeral directors. Frankie acknowledged the envelope culture in the Vatican so there’s no need to deny it. You just look evasive.

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At the heart of this is the tragic loss of three young men. The community has come together to mourn through their symbols and words. Fr. Hugh was pastoral in his efforts and showed deep sensitivity, care and respect to Dean’s family and friends. Fr. Hugh is a legend. The only problem here is how the media inflate the story.

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Was reading an article on apostolic succession yesterday. Thought that rcc was claiming it as credible.
Let me give you an analogy of what apostolic succession is like… Great grand father to grandfather to father to son to his son etc etc until it stops with no male line.
Think apostolic succession was broken cos no definite link.. No popes in first two hundred or three hundred years after JC AD 33.
Another reason for is that Peter was never in Rome.
Another reason were dead and living cardinals whose succession was traced back to rebiba and after that, beyond him, no trace of it before rebiba cos it might be broken.

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Anon at 8.47am

‘Her’,

its a ‘he’.

John lynam at 9.27am

Agree with you re Farrell silence which spoke volumes. No moral authority coming from him. He’s a company yes man who specialises in finance books.

Look at his record as a previous Bishop of ossory.

The reason they picked him was his silence in Maynooth when it blew up re ledweith, gaynooth et al. Its a reward for his silence in respect of his promotion. Silence and zipping your mouth will get you far in rcc.

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Deaf Guy, addressing each other as she (sometimes called hell-sparking the pronoun) is a historical custom among gay men. Like many of them it arises from a time when being gay was illegal so you would refer to your lovers as she. There is no derogation meant and the commenter is stressing that he is gay.
For a fuller account of historical gay slang there is an older book called The Queen’s Vernacular available for free online and more recent work by Paul Baker.

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Thank you Anon @ 10:46, for giving the historical background to this usage of feminine terminology. I had no knowledge of this.
Irrespective of this “niche” custom, nowadays when acceptance of an individual’s personal orientation is, and should be unremarkable, perhaps it’s time for the custom to fade away.
There are probably many who intentionally use the custom in a derisory manner, and others who perceive it as such. I, for one, would welcome anything which diminishes discrimination.
MMM

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Don’t forget, MMM, Quentin Crisp’s comment about setting out to be one of the stately homos of England. There is something in gay culture that does set out to be very particular indeed.
I used to work in the Place of Safety in the nearby psychiatric hospital and would often give police officers tea in my rainbow mug which said, Nobody Knows I’m Gay.
I think it is also good to have an in-language as members of any minority. If you ever listened to Round the Horne you will have come across the gay language Polari.

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Maybe +Pat the degree of sociability might depend on the company?
I can hardly imagine sociability scores highly in the attributes of your commentator Anon 4:43.

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Well said Pat,bravo.
These filthy scum and the thousands like them who support them are a sick blot on Irish society.
This particular incident has done more than anything else to guarantee that many people will never step inside a church again.
Farells silence has ensured he’s considered nothing more than a joke with no moral fibre.
The priest here must be removed immediately .

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‘This particular incident has done more than anything else to guarantee that many people will never step inside a church again.’
With no disrespect intended, this incident hasn’t done as much to ensure that as other aspects of the clergy’s conduct.

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This wearing of white vestments at funerals is a farce.

Also, is having a pop-up sign showing a photo of the deceased a commonly done thing now or is it only done by Dublin gurriers and knackers?

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What was the communications person in Archbishop house doing? How much does she get paid to manage all the fiascos ??

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9.27: Lynam, you are very unfair and biased. There are situations which present huge challenges. These funerals were challenging. One in particular was hijacked for sinister reasons. It has happened. Now we must all learn lessons, the church, Gardai, department of justice, young people, families in disadvantaged, drug ridden areas…Crime in all its ugliness, terror and devastation must be prevented and condemned and not be glorified. There are thugs, known by Gardai, who are roaming around waiting for opportunities. Not too long ago three men – drug addicts, used a porchway in our Church to carry out their deeds and finished off by urinating all over the place. Gardai recognised all of them through our cctv and yet these three are still seen in the area. We have a serious problem in dealing with drugs and crime in our country. In parish where I work, I know many families who are destroyed by the drugs and crimes of sons and daughters. I was told to stop visiting one particular mother!!! A horrible experience. Rather than name call, sneer at and cast hurtful judgments about Fr. Kavanagh, surely we should offer better options. Should we now not celebrate a Christian Funeral for rapists, paedophiles, murderers, serial adulterers, white collared criminals from wealthy backgrounds, drug lords, thugs and all whom society may deem unwanted? We must all contribute to this debate not in a knee jerk way or by denigrating unnecessarily the celebrant of these funerals. If no priest had agreed, at family’s request, to facilitate these funerals, I have no doubt that the Church would be condemned. I am appalled at the total charade and thuggery that took place in a very SACRED place last week. I am appalled that when alerted, Gardai said they would only arrive if “something” happened. There was just one Dominican priest controlling the Church. We must together face down thugs but pastors are called to be pastorally kind, caring, empathetic and sensitive when dealing with all funerals. Not to do so would draw the wrath of this blog.

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After listening to Fr Kavanagh’s contribution on Liveline it is shocking how incompetent he comes across. How any educated person can go on Liveline with 2 lines and keep repeating is unbelievable. Duffy has made a career from coming across as your best friend but when he gets you in his sights he forensically takes people apart in the same was a barrister is trained to do. Either 1 the priest went on Liveline without the Archdiocese being aware or 2. The Archdioceses’s communications office oversaw a massive misstep. This is a textbook case of what not to do when dealing with a PR crisis. Questions must now be asked how a priest managed to go on Liveline and be responsible for such a monumental cock up. The RCC had massive issues to deal with, this story gives all of the wrong signals and images. The Archdioceses failure to see this coming and manage it effectively raises serious questions about their competence and professionalism.

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10.42: I think you are being a little unfair to the priest and the Archbishop but there is no doubt that the discussion with priest in liveline was embarrassing. Since the incident was being investigated by the Gardai and Archbishops house, it would have been wiser and prudent for the priest to pass on all queries to the Gardai and Communications Office. Many lessons have to be learned and implemented immediately. We also have questions to ask about some undertakers. In future I will consult widely before I would celebrate such an occasion and if required, I would refuse. There are thuggish groups in our midst who dictate the stage settings for their loved ones. There has to be a line we must not allow criminals to cross: they cannot terrorise us any longer. Where were the Gardai, knowing the horrible criminality of these men? Let us remember the lorry driver. He’s traumatised and we pray God will restore him to good health and bless his family.

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As Francis said in the notes to TRADITIONIS CUSTODES “… I am saddened by abuses in the celebration of the liturgy on all sides. In common with Benedict XVI, I deplore the fact that “in many places the prescriptions of the new Missal are not observed in celebration, but indeed come to be interpreted as an authorization for or even a requirement of creativity, which leads to almost unbearable distortions”.

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9.27: John, I am absolutely repulsed by this thuggish behaviour at funerals last week. However, I have no doubt that if any priest had refused to officiate at these funerals, a certain Bishop from Larne would have horsed it quicker than lightning to the Unitarian Church, Stephen’s Green, to offer his services. I have no doubt he’d have done so. Absolutely no doubt. Pat’s demonisation of the celebrant is disgusting.

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I can’t believe that Joe Duffy has a radio show. He had no discernible personality when bishop of Clogher and no lightness of touch, wit or even small talk, so it is astonishing that he has managed to get a radio show.

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Well, it is a Republic of Ireland radio show. The Republic is a confessional state, ever ready to tug the forelock at the Catholic hierarchy.

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Next they’ll be having Dermo presenting the Late, Late and Lugs Monaghan reading the 9 0’Clock News.

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Anon at 10.46aam
Thank you for your explanation which is much appreciated. I’m not familiar with gay world etc except for rent boy (ex friend of mine gay told me this term that I never heard).
I learn something new every day😏👍.

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The Communications office like the Finance Office are a waste of space, They are not competent in fact they are highly incompetent. What other diocese in the world had “Finance” as the first option on their automated phone system ? Should it not have been sometime more important, like Child Safeguarding, Education, Pastoral Services or even Liturgy ? Nope not in Dublin, since Coddles time the number one option had been Finance, and they are running rings around the new Archbishop. Its been updated recently and the number 1 option is now Communications with Finance being booted down to number 3, In reality they are clones of each other

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When will you begin to understand that finance is the most important thing for the church? They’re even saying it on the phone menu!

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The IRA, the Mafia and I’m sure other criminal organisations are entitled to bury the dead with dignity and respect but dignity and respect is a two way street.
The Mafia and the IRA are respectful of the funereal rite – the volley of shots over the coffin is a military rubric – the IRA identify as an army after all.
The fiasco in Dublin was a hijacked funeral – the celebrant no more than a patsy doing the bidding of the criminal class in a crass and undignified fashion.
There is something deeply cowardly in the heart of the RCC priesthood – of course they dress it up as pastoral sensitivity and ‘inculturation’ but we all know they were intimidated into doing their bidding and scared shitless about standing up for the propriety of an ancient and dignified funeral rite.

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Diocesan Communication Officers are in post so that when the shit hits the fan they can take the drubbing and be the public face of failure and scandal.
The clergy after all are good at running for cover and enjoy nothing more than having a lay person to blame.
The salaries of communication, HR and finance staff are inflated reflecting a self-importance that has no bounds.
How much is Dublin Head of Communication paid?
Or Westminster or Birmingham?
Money for old rope – it won’t last the pot is running dry – over time lay people and clergy will grow weary of paying these exorbitant salaries of that I have no doubt.

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Kicking off nicely today, Pat and it’s interesting how the cathbots are going by the only playbook they have, viz
– youre bad
-its no big deal
-poor priest
-where were the police
-we must forgive

This playbook is the exact one they use to excuse abuse, just with the change of social workers.
I can’t wait for one of them to ask why you aren’t talking about the Church of Ireland.
You know what I love best about your blog? It’s that feeling that some priest somewhere wants to kill me 😇

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A funeral like this must never be allowed to happen again. An utterly appalling abuse of the Catholic Faith and Liturgy.

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In the seventies the immediate family still wore dark clothing to a funeral no one else, then in the eighties the celebration of the life was encouraged and no one wore black. It’s Eastenders that’s created the hybrid of everyone in full black mourning especially ties for men, piles of flowers and at the same time a celebration of the life themed around photos, favourite music and anecdotes. Usually a child is dragged up to ‘ bravely’ read out a poem or bidding prayers. This is now set in stone it will never change, too bad if the theme and the music is in poor taste.

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Regarding finance, please see number 5 below.
The Precepts of the Church describe the minimum effort we must make in prayer and in living a moral life. All Catholics are called to move beyond the minimum by growing in love of God and love of neighbor.
The Precepts are as follows:
Attendance at Mass on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation.
Confession of serious sin at least once a year.
Reception of Holy Communion at least once a year during the Easter season.
Observance of the days of fast and abstinence.
Providing for the needs of the Church.

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Living a moral life?
They don’t mention how we act towards God, ourselves or our neighbors.
That’s not near the minimum!

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The Six Commandments of the Church

To hear Mass on Sundays and Holydays of Obligation.

To fast and abstain on the days appointed.

To confess at least once a year.

To recieve the Holy Eucharist during Easter time.

To contribute to the support of our Pastors.

Not to marry persons who are not Catholics, or who are related to us within three degrees of kindred, nor privately without witnesses, nor to solemnize marriage at forbidden times.

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Charming. Maybe learn how to spell and punctuate correctly first to allow you abuse people in a grammatically correct fashion.

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Pat at 12.18pm
👆These are man made rules by rcc just like the Canon law.
These commandments are quite different to the original ten commandments.

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The is shocking. The Archbishop should go on radio and, or television and speak about this. It is simply wrong. I do not know if the celebrant was lied to or bullied into acting as he did. It is possible. Fr Roche’s evidence is plain enough. Whatever the facts, the Archbishop needs to use national media to condemn and to lay out the truth about professional criminals.

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I wonder if Fr Halpin was seeing his bit on the side when he was denouncing a dead man at his own funeral?

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All he said was that the deceased had made “bad, bad choices”.

He had!

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Pat, Fr Halpin was much more condemning than that. I’ll be a total cheek if he was drinking from the furry cup and then standing up and saying:
“During a lengthy and powerful sermon at Nugent’s funeral in the Church of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Rowlagh, yesterday, Fr Halpin said: “The truth is we are here because one person decided they wanted another person out of the way. One person made a decision that they had licence to order a hit.
“In their little mind, and I emphasise little, in their little mind that person had become a hindrance or a problem,” he told the congregation.
“We are here because one person thought that they were so important that another person’s life could simply be extinguished.
“There are more who share in the responsibility.
“The one who pulled the trigger, and the one who drove the getaway car. But there are more. Darragh himself made bad decisions in his life that led him to a dangerous and precarious world.”
Fr Halpin went on to say that “every person who takes drugs bears some of the responsibility”.
“Every single person who pays for illegal drugs bears some of the responsibility for us being here today,” he added.
As he spoke about Nugent’s death, one mourner shouted out: “That’s enough. This is supposed to be a celebration of Darragh’s life.”
Another person shouted out “stop”, a word repeated by other mourners as the sermon continued.
However, Nugent’s partner Cathy shouted for the priest to continue as “he has to do what he has to do”.
Four members of the congregation left the church in anger as the priest was speaking.
Speaking to the Herald after the funeral, Fr Halpin said he felt he needed to speak out.
“A few people have rung up concerned after it, but it was just supporting what was said,” he said.
“My main message is to show that there are many people who take responsibility for this death, including people who take drugs.”
During his sermon, Fr Halpin said: “There are some who through falling in with the wrong crowd or through unfortunate life circumstances get sucked into addiction. In many ways they have diminished responsibility. But there are those who live middle-class lives, who go to work every day and then at the weekend take drugs recreationally. Those who should know better, they bear a significant responsibility.
“Why are people willing to kill? Simply because there is money in it. Therefore, all who give money for drugs bear some responsibility,” he added.
The brave priest said he was shaking while he was speaking on the altar, but knew he had to continue.
“I wasn’t expecting such a big reaction to it but let’s just say I wasn’t surprised either,” he said.

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Interesting how one funeral last week in a Catholic Church has brought out a tsunami of horrible condemnation on the priest and the Church. The real issue at the centre of this issue is the way all of society has become terrorised by criminal thugs, drug lords and professional criminal organisers. Some of these thuggish criminals are known to Gardai and we know they are walking our streets. The time has come when we must bar known criminals from ever again using the Church as a stage to glorify their criminality. The events which I experienced on three occasions and those of last week have now convinced me to say NO if faced with a potential similar situation. Having being interviewed by Gardai re: one awful experience, I am aware that some attendees carry instruments if self defence. This is scary, unacceptable and outrageous. It confirms my decision to not ever be a participant in any stage showing of a criminal lifestyle.

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Very good post.
Well done. Yes,they are walking the streets with hundreds of criminal conviction s. They have demonstrated they’re completely incapable of normal living within society. They are increasing in number and whole areas are terrorised by these excrement.
Yet the bishops remain deaf and mute ,not to mention the highly paid public servants in the Guards, civil service ,and so called politicians.
Decent people are screaming for law and order yet these well fed ,nudge and wink paddy’s remain silent.

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So we can put him on trial and hold him accountable for misuse of office, the sale of clonliffe, the appointment of fools and idiots to positions of authority within his golden circle and also the bankrupting of the ruined Diocese of Dublin. Yes bring the old fool back, so we can have an accounting

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Dermo was always the analyst of the Church’s problems and spent his years in Dublin making sage sounding comments in which he set out the various ways in which he thought the diocese was kaput.

In all those years he did feck all to fix the problems that he spent his whole time complaining about. What, in the end, did Dermo have to show for it? Nothing.

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Father Kavanagh did what Jesus would do. Shame on you all for condemning his Christ-like charity.
Shame on you all!

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Listen to Liveline – this priest needs to be managed. Look at the videos of O’Dwyer and Sons Undertakers. Christ-like charity does not collude with thugs who show no redemption.

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Yet you can condemn. It is a pity there isn’t more shame in the Church for the abuse and hurt. Lives have been destroyed. What is shameful is your defence of the indefensible. Reflect yourself and keep saying your prayers! It has worked so well for everyone…

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Wonder whst those guys think of their lives now?
Would love to see the looks on their tough-guy faces when they came before the King of kings.😅

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Fr Kavanagh is defended for showing Christ like charity but this to miss the point, to miss the wood for the trees.
The point is the funeral was hijacked, kidnapped and held hostage and he was clearly intimidated and did not uphold the sanctity of the funereal rite.
There is no shame in criticising him but every shame in defending such a shambolic spectacle.
The funeral basically celebrated the deceased’s criminality but also affirmed it in the most brazen and craven way.
If Fr Kavanagh won’t blush I will turn crimson on his behalf – for I am truly ashamed of this circus – it reflects v badly on Irish Catholicism and the Irish nation, who are better than this.

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4.40: Get a grip…This funeral incident is not a bad reflection on Irish Catholicism…..what an over exaggeration. Deal with the facts. These style funerals are rare and very often are sprung in a church setting at a last moment. Personally, I would not have gone ahead with the “mass” once I noticed all inappropriate paraphernalia. But let’s ask the more serious questions which these gangsters pose to all of society…

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Who or what are you to condemn Pat Buckley???
Jesus returned to his Father with two thief’s by his side.
The three criminals will meet their maker and he will have the final judgement!

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4.40: There are a lot of issues being missed in this discussion. This incident – appalling and unacceptable – raises serious moral questions about the dominance of drug lords and dangerous criminals in our communities: it raises questions about the evident inequalities in certain communities: it raises questions about the powers of an Gardai, the effectiveness of our justice system. Ironically, some of the biggest critics of this incident are from well heeled people, some of whom are buying their fixes from the criminals who were killed last week, yet they moralies about the inappropriateness of church funerals!! Today, some commentators used the funeral incident to demonize Fr. Kavanagh, priests in general (as if we are doing likewise everyday) and to suggest that the Church is complicit in these stage funerals. Sadly, some funerals have been hijacked and all of us are defined as facilitators of such offensive events. Fr. Hugh was misguided, I believe and I do not for a moment accept that he didn’t care. Sometimes in a moment events can turn dangerous and out of control. But let’s discuss the many issues around drugs and crime lords and suppliers in our communities (they do ecxst): talk about the upper classes who enable these suppliers by purchasing their fix: talk about what protocols the Church should formulate: talk about extra necessary powers for Gardai. These are very urgent issues requiring deep reflection and urgent responses not church bashing for the outcome of a comprehensive response is the concern for all of society.

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9.56: Another ignorant and stupid question. It’s none of your business. As explained before, all funeral costs are talked about with family by undertakers. If any family cannot meet the agreed stipend, it is waived by the parish. It is by agreement with Funeral Directors Association. Knowing Fr. Hugh, I suspect he rarely, if ever, takes any stipend. If he does he is generous in giving to those in need. Your comment is from an ignoramus. Go and do something useful.

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9.56: MYOB…You plonker. Go and read referenced article by 2.09. Inform yourself or better again: Get a proper education.

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Apparently the offering was 1500 but the celebrant will only receive 100. The parish will receive 125 and the sacristan 75. The remainer will be gobbled by the flock of gobblers AKA the boys and girls in Finance. Their fat pay cheques have to be paid

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He got the same amount as Bishop Pat gets for a wedding. Is that ok with you ? I got much less but I’m not complaining. Father deserved his stipend.

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2.09: Thank you so much for providing that wonderful article about Fr. Hugh Kavanagh. All the silly critics should read it very carefully, including Pat. Seriously read it. Fr. Hugh is indeed a most Christ-like pastor. God bless his good work.

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The late Richard Sipe, a sociologist who knew more about the sociology of sexually active priests that anybody, repeatedly said that the culture of sexual abuse depends on a broader culture of sexual misconduct, which is itself sustained by networks of sympathetic corrupt priests.

That’s not “equating”; that is pointing out that there is a valid and well-established association between a culture of sexual disorder and vice that does not involve abusing minors, and the tolerance of the abuse of minors. Back in 2002, when I was writing a lot about the Catholic scandal, I read testimony in one court case in which one priest was sexually abusing a minor in a bed, and another priest walked in and out of the bedroom while it was happening, and neither moved to stop it nor report it. Why not? Because that priest was gay and involved in sex with grown-ups at that beach house too. To pretend that there is no possible connection here is completely untenable.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/grindr-gay-priests-of-newark-the-pillar/

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As someone with a healthy awareness of surveillance capabilities and their capacity for abuse I would obviously prefer that cyber vigilantism not occur. That said, it is abundantly clear in 2021 that the Catholic hierarchy can’t or won’t take meaningful action because of the extent of the corruption, the pervasive nature of either corrupted or compromised figures at the highest levels, and the unwillingness to absorb the pain that meaningful action would require. In the absence of another Julius II to crush these modern Borgias, that leaves the faithful with either accepting the corruption of their faith, supporting select actors that they have vetted, or taking vigilante actions.
Any meaningful action against the rot is going to uncover a massive amount of corrupt and overlapping networks of both homosexuals and pedophiles as well as their enablers and enough conspiracy and cover-up to satisfy any QAnon adherent. No doubt doing so would involve no small amount of damage to the credibility and integrity of the Church, though that would have to start by acknowledging homosexual networks and undercurrents that are currently considered unspeakable due to modern political correctness.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/grindr-gay-priests-of-newark-the-pillar/

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9.53: These articles you referenced are brilliant, elucidating and very thought provoking.Thank you for these references. Very challenging articles and are written with great empathy, insight and kindness. Well worth reading.

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I have had the privilege of knowing Fr. Kavanagh for a number of years and he is a lovely man and a holy priest. People do not realise that what he did took courage when so many other priests would have refused to do this funeral. Fr. Kavanagh has demonstrated Christian charity and humility in taking on this difficult endevour. I do not think for a minute that Fr. Kavanagh lacked courage. Perhaps he made a mistake but who has not? More terrible things have occurred in Catholic Churches and have got less coverage then this. May God bless Fr. Kavanagh and his work and may he bless all priests throughout the world who are struggling during this difficult time for the Church. Amen

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9.16pm

Get a Grip you chime – er of course it reflects badly on ‘the best Catholics in the world’ – hey trust me Denial isn’t a just a river in Egypt its also a state of mind expressed so eloquently by you.
My grip on reality is tight yours is skipping – one of these funerals is one too many, just as one case of child abuse is one too many.
The clerical denial system works like this: minimise the morally outrageous at the same time accentuate the ethically mediocre.

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