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TOM DEENIHAN SELLING OFF BISHOPS PALACE LAND IN MULLINGAR.

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Dear Bishop Tom,

Recently, I visited the church of my baptism in Tullamore. It was good to be back in my home turf. I am, of course, aware that Tullamore is canonically within the Diocese of Meath. And, I am further aware that some of your priests (but not all) are very happy to extend a cordial welcome to the Ordinary of Larne when I visit the area entrusted to your pastoral governance.

By virtue of my baptism, I am intrinsically and ontologically connected to the Diocese of Meath, so I was very concerned to read that you are selling some the diocese estate. Like many Irish bishops I appreciate that you are facing tough decisions in order to balance the books. However, I do wonder are you making the right choice?

Is the selling of the land the worst form of short-termism? Would you, my brother Bishop Tom, be better to adopt a wait-and-see approach? After all, the finances of the diocese might experience an upturn, although, I accept that is unlikely! However, do you not think adopting a wait-and-see approach might be more prudent approach? Are you being advised by people that have the best interests of the diocese at heart?

In order to be helpful, I am going to make a suggestion that I respectfully suggest you should carefully consider.

You could render a Decree ordering the monks of Silverstream Priory to celebrate the Divine Office in English, i.e., prohibiting the use of Latin in all liturgical services. You should further insist that the Eucharist is celebrated utilising the New Rite of the Mass, i.e., the missal of Paul VI. Such a Decree would be giving effect to the wishes of His Holiness Pope Francis.

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Of course, that would create anarchy within Silverstream Priory. And, if they did not comply in obedience to your Decree, you could petition the Holy See for a Decree of suppression. How about that for an idea?

Once Silverstream had been suppressed then the legal title to the property and the lands that constitute Silverstream Priory would pass to the Diocese of Meath. It is prime land that is ripe for development. In fact, the sale of the land could make the diocese a handsome profit.

This would have a twofold advantage: a) it would remove a major headache that you inherited from your predecessor, Bishop Michael Smith; and, b) I am sure you would take great delight in removing what has been a rich seam of content for my blog.

Of course, if that did become a reality, I am sure you would have no problem in utilising the profits from the sale of the lands at Silverstream to assist with the building of five houses for the poor.

With prayerful best wishes,

Your brother bishop,

Pat

285 replies on “TOM DEENIHAN SELLING OFF BISHOPS PALACE LAND IN MULLINGAR.”

Honestly, Pat, that isn’t a sensible plan at all. Once sold the land at Silverstream has gone forever. Whereas if the monks set up an onlyfans that will be a source of income for decades!

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Esker is closing and it’s beginning to look like the end for the Dublin province of Redemptorists. Dan Barnum’s circus was a close match to Charles Brown tenure as high priest. Ciaran O’Callaghan is flirting with the rite side (for once) and interesting days like ahead as to which of pink reds receives the provincial prize to close the shop.

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Esker of course being the current home of Tony Flannery. How come Tony’s message and high profile still failed to attract new would-be Redemptorists?

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Meath appears to be yet another Diocese like Killaloe that lacks openness and transparency in these matters.

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The Palace in Mullingar is beside the Cathedral in the town centre and is now the priests’ house and has been for decades. A new house was built out the Dublin Road (1970s?) which housed Bishop Smith until recently enough. Apparently he now lives in a new house possibly on land adjacent (someone might be able to clarify). When the new bishop arrived a new house was bought in another area of Mullingar, Ardmore Hills I believe (someone might be able to clarify) and the (1970s) house was turned into offices. It is land adjacent to the (1970s) house which is being put up for sale. Why did the new bishop need a new house might be a better question than why there is a need to sell the land

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11.37
His Lordship Bishop Tom Deenihan DD resides in Bishop’s House Dublin Road Mullingar
Bishop Emeritus Michael Smith resides at St’ Oliver’s Beechfield Dublin Road Mullingar.

It is not the lack of finance that properties and land is being sold it is surplus to diocesan mission needs ever pre covid so every dioceses is selling surplas property and land.
The church has many investment and in no need for a “fire” sale.

When Bishop Pat vacates the curates house ( the Oratory) that he resides in Bishop Michael will most likely sell it as it is surplus to Down and Connor missional plans.

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@11:37 Bishop’s House, Dublin Road Mullingar is now Bishop’s Offices, Dublin Road, Mullingar. Perhaps someone from Mullingar or a priest of the diocese can confirm

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@1.29 Any Irish bishop who doesn’t have an earned doctorate is given an honorary DD by the Pontifical University, Maynooth. Hence, Dr Joe Duffy, Dr Eamon Casey etc.

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12.43
Your assumptions are not correct. Honorary doctorates are awarded at pontifical graduation ceremonies as at other institutions.
Your reasoning is faulty. Bishops were automatically referred to as doctor from the time when only those with doctorates were appointed. Alas, that is no longer the case.

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@ 9:22am
OMG! she never gives up, she has the addresses of every poor Bishop and cleric and just loves to pass them on. Her usual modus operandi is phoning to try and ingratiate herself with the poor unsuspecting cleric. I’m quite sure she has contacted poor Patsy in the past, until he finally got her number.😏

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T. Deenihan is not DD. He’s PhD in education from Hull. He left Maynooth without the BD, indeed without a degree.
Calling a bishop who hasn’t earned it, DD is the height of clericalism.

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Latin in the Divine Office is not a problem. The issue is the unreformed breviary. Pope Francis has said unequivocally the liturgy of the Second Ecumenical and General Council of the Vatican is the magisterium of the church.

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All very well reforming the breviary when the reforms after VII mean that there are hardly any monks, nuns or priests to say it.

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1.29 Given to him from Rome. They can make anything with a bellyband, the girth does not matter, look good. The office makes the man because the sheep are, quite frankly, stupid.

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1.17 And those in the know could tell from the points on their Birettas !!!!! You could not imagine the hierarchy of it all from our vantage point culturally now !!!

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Actually the breviary before the council was that reformed by – you got it – Pius X, in which the ancient order of psalms was thrown out. The hymns were mangled versions of ancient hymns forced into classical meter (in the Roman breviary).
12:37 Personally I would love y’all to go back to that ancient psalter and see where it gets you. IF any of you can manage the Latin, and I don’t believe you mostly could. If you understand that monks and nuns don’t say the breviary you might understand why you’re wrong. 😁

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3.15. You can’t get lay people to go to the unpopular new Mass, so good luck getting them to do the LOTH. LOL.

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3.28
Not correct. It was expected every successful candidate had a doctorate, hence the practice of calling them doctor.
Can you cite one instance where a bishop was “given” an honorary DD from Maynooth?
Can you identify a process, i.e. paper trail, whereby such an alleged conferring took place?
Can you find a single written reference to “D.D. (honoris causa)” relating to such an alleged event?
It’s clericalism of the first degree to call someone who hasn’t adoctorate, doctor.

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3.01
Given to him from Rome?
Really? I don’t think so.
From which institution?
It would be invidious indeed for “Rome” to do that for Irish bishops and not for their UK counterparts.
You attribute stupidity to “Rome” which it doesn’t practise.

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@1.17
Why are people on this blog so bombastic, even when they are wrong? The Pontifical University at Maynooth only started to confer honorary degrees publicly in the 1980s (1987 or 1988), when the first recipients were lay US doners (two of the lay student accommodation blocks are named after the first two honorary doctors). I was at the ceremony, as was Bill Mulvihill, who will confirm this.
Bishops, when appointed, received an honorary doctorate, without ceremony, from the PU. Even before Vatican II many bishops lacked earned doctorates, so relied on the honorary PU one. Doctor of course is also used in the wider sense of teacher, which is one of the tasks of a bishop.

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It’s because of the key dynamic of Roman Catholicism which is actually about power and control, which in argument manifests as having to be right and hatred for their bugbears. The fracturing of papal authority and the faithful’s attitude to it (which was already well under way in the nineteenth century and the fact they blame Vatican 2 just shows they don’t know their own history) means they have wound up arguing with each other.
This can only be good for humanity.

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Pat, what do you make of a 1st year seminarian arriving at a lay pilgrimage in a town dressed in a clerical shirt to walk alongside people in jeans etc would that be conservative or liberal?

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The son of the Chief Operating Officer of Portsmouth diocese is a VEC sem and he recently took part in the traddy Chartes pilgrimage, wearing throughout a cassock, collar and panama hat.

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If Tullamore is one of the more liberal parishes, why are conservative priests sent there? Is it to shake them up a bit? It’s not working.

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Have any clergy in any Diocese in Ireland housed any current Irish homeless or Ukrainian war refugees. None have been housed in our area but there are several unoccupied houses and other church buildings unused for several years now. Looks like Deenihan and other Bishops cashing in on high property prices right now. Where do their retired clericals live?

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I don’t, 12:48! I still wear slip briefs like a seminary formator and you can pop up to my room to see them any time you like. 🥰

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Nonetheless the responses are very instructive.
How many clergy have given accommodation to the homeless or refugees is a straightforward question and one which should have a simple answer, not screams that they’re being persecuted.
If any clergy had done this they would certainly be wanting it all over the media and would certainly simply say so. 🤷

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1.10: Do you recall the words of Jesus, “when you give alms, are sacrificing and are charitable, do not have it trumpeted before you…Your heavenly Father sees your kindness…” That’s what matters. Why would any priest want media attention or to announce from the rooftops who he may be housing, refugee, homeless or Ukrainian? It’s against the privacy and dignity of the individuals to put their names in the public domain when you are offering accommodation. Aren’t we to RESPECT these VULNERABLE PEOPLE in our midst? I know three priests who are accommodating families. All we need to know is there are many kind and caring individuals and families expressing their wonderful care and Christianity. But, I wonder why there’s a very slow response given to the many who have offered their help?

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Shameful how the Roman Church keeps amassing wealth whilst avoiding its responsibilities under human rights agreements.

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“How about that for an idea?”
How about providing Dom Benedict Andersen, the true Prior of Silverstream, with his letter of good standing? Dom Benedict Andersen must be provided with this letter without delay. How about that for an idea?
Pax.

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Why the delay?
In justice, why has a letter of good standing not been issued to Dom Benedict Andersen?

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7:41 yes, how is Dom Benedict? This letter of good standing issue has been left outstanding for an unreasonable duration. There will be consequences.

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12.05: It’s unfair to criticise clergy only re: housing of refugees and homeless people. FYI, many religious orders have given buildings for Ukranians and some of the leading religious are to the forefront of working with, advocating for and providing solid, long term accomodation for those most in need: Fr. McVerry: Sr. Stan, Br. Kevin, Sisters of Mercy, Presentation Sisters, Presentation Brothers, De La Salle, Holy Faith Sisters….Some clergy have done likewise. But, the reality now is that many people and families who offered accomodation to Ukranians have changed their minds and many have yet to receive Ukranians. There are all kinds of insurance, safeguarding, legal and financial issues involved. Two homeless men call frequently to me for assistance. I’ve offered to pay their fee for staying in hostels or other accomodation but they won’t accept my support exvept what i give them at my door. They prefer to be “wanderers” and sleep out. Solving the HOMELESS problem is possible but it requires a dedicated commitment from government and all of us. I know of many religious Sisters, now retired who go twice weekly to Br. Kevin’s centre from 6am – 6pm to help and assist with the great work being carried out. Lets give credit whete it’s due, please.

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9.24: How impoverished you are! Your inky word seems to be “howling”. Explain. Still attached to mamm’s breasts, are we? We’re certainly a howlin’ at you, redneck..

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9.16 A very reasonable comment if not somewhat erroneous in the personages/organisations you have named. They are sometimes part of the problem and worse, they know it. Great cartoon in a paper in India years ago of hoards of people heading in the direction of a deep gorge which they cannot see, on the other side of the gorge is Mother Teresa and a fleet of her ambulances, SHE CAN SEE THE GORGE but chooses not to alert the people running towards injury and disaster, she would rather “help” them!!!!! The poor will be with you always helps a lot of Egos!!!!!

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10:43 your last sentence reminds me of De Valeras contention that keeping people poor kept them under control and modest. No wonder he & the grabbing schemers who have amassed all this wealth for the RCC got on so well!

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10.43: I don’t accept your cynical take. The experience and knowledge I have of the groups and religious orders I mentioned is that they have long term objectives. Apart from providing acvomodation in their premises, these groups also provide psychological support, educational opportunities, well being programmes, finance management programmes, family supports and leadership/management training. Responding to homeless people must be a multifaceted approach which many of the groups I referred to are engaging with. Perhaps there’s an urgent need to consolidate the many different groups and agencies who work with vulnerable young people and all who are excluded from maunstream society, especially parents and children trapped in cycles of poverty. We must all play our part.

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10:59, de Valera! Why did he send Michael Collins to negotiate the treaty?

Varadkar was tweeting: “Very happy #Ukraine and #Moldova will be accepted as candidates for #EU membership. The European Union has its flaws but it assures our freedom, prosperity and security and that’s amazing 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇲🇩”

Church communities have flaws as well. No community is perfect.

Varadkar and Doherty had a heated argument in Dáil Éireann during the week. Fine Gael has compiled an 18 page dossier on the hypocrisy of Sinn Féin. The next General Election should be interested! The halfway point and changeover of Taoiseach is only 6 months away.

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Excellent, accurate comment, 10:43. The response from the ‘faithful’ shows it’s gone to the heart.

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10:59, de Valera! Why did he send Michael Collins to negotiate the treaty?
Varadkar was tweeting: “Very happy #Ukraine and #Moldova will be accepted as candidates for #EU membership. The European Union has its flaws but it assures our freedom, prosperity and security and that’s amazing 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇲🇩”
Church communities have flaws as well. No community is perfect.
Varadkar and Doherty had a heated argument in Dáil Éireann during the week. Fine Gael has compiled an 18 page dossier on the hypocrisy of Sinn Féin. The next General Election should be interested!

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@9.16 what about all the unoccupied houses & properties in individual parishes around Ireland – it’s unfair of selfish Bishops and parish priests with 2 or 3 houses at their disposal to live in to leave all the housing burden to Peter McVerry & his good colleagues.

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10.05: The 10.43 comment is insightful for you because it takes a swipe at Church run charities. Have you seen the astronomical salaries of non church charities administrators? Absolutely jaw dropping crazy. There are far too many non governmental organisations doing similar works and all drawing huge salaries…Some charities have ceased to operate because of financial mismanagement and abuses of one kind or another. There has to be a greater scrutiny of all charities. That’s why I carefully choose the charities I support. May I recomnend supporting charities which support the elderly and all who live alone..ALONE charity being one of them.

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10:51 ‘Look, the church is no better than secular charities’.
What was the point of you again?

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1.20 You are well informed, but I think there might be more than 18. The Republic of Ireland is in for an electoral earthquake in my view. It won’t be nice.

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The Irish homeless should be put in dinghys and sent England, where they’d be put up in 4* hotels, like our guests from war-torn France.

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10.53 agreed & despicable that parish rednecks attempt to take credit & to hide behind the Trojan work done by urban organisations run by Peter McVerry & similar whilst they squabble in the ditches like the insatiably greedy gombeen men that they are.

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The SJs and the Mercy nuns are great ones for living in council houses, in a performative way, even though they don’t need such housing and prevent those truly in need getting the accommodation they needlessly occupy. There’s an SJ who lives in the Mullacreevie Park estate in Armagh city. There’s a long waiting list to live there, but the Jesuit has a housing executive flat in it, even though the order could well afford to buy a property or rent privately. It’s not as if he even interacts with the people on the estate.

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10.53 It is no “burden” to Mc Verry I assure you. No burden at all. The homeless of the city know wheter they fit his demographic or not, and he had in his time very defined demographics. A huge multinational he runs and then takes up social housing in Ballymun, given to him by City Council, when he should be ” stuck” with a Jesuit community ! none of that for our Peter!!! None at all.

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12:39, the news on Lyric FM keeps me well informed! They share a sensible amount of news.
We’ve arguably had political gangsters for years. It is concerning however that a party of actual gangsters is likely to be the largest political party, after the next election.
Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil abandoned the unborn babies in the womb. Sinn Féin Dáil Éireann wait to see which way the wind is blowing, before they pin their colours to a mast. Terrible choices for the voting public. A newer party of honour and integrity then unfortunately can’t gain a foothold in Irish politics.

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10.53 When Mc Verry appeared on Tommy Tiernans show, Tommy asked him ” Who do you love?” Mc Verry was caught of guard with the question. He hesitated and then answered ” My dog.” Tommy went at it again, Mc Verry was lost in the question. Do you know what he said ? ” Nobody.” The strangest words I ever heard a priest say. Usually lying or being truthful, they would at least say God or Jesus. Didn’t even try to say the homeless. No, in this case a dog. Astounding, and its a recorded TV show. Sad, very very sad.

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11.18 How long do you want ? Mc Verry himself said years ago, years ago, to the then Irish Government that 70 to 80 million would “fix” the homeless situation then He was ignored and here we are. Don’t call my view cynical, you Plod, what I state is real and grounded. Not from an armchair holding an Earl Grey or a glass of whatever it is you quaf or imbibe.

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12:44 Trojan as in horse. 🐴🐎
You would stand some chance of getting any respect if you didn’t refer to the parish rednecks.

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@ 10:51
Buddy; I can understand your defensive position in support of Church run charities. However, never make assumptions. I am fully aware of astronomical salaries of Statutory, NGOs, Charities, fun runs, blaa de blaa de blaa. The Voluntary Sector, Charity, NGO’s, are businesses. The issue is one of Politics, not primarily religious, regardless of religious denominational affiliations. Who funds the various sector agencies including Church run charities? They are calling the shots. ‘He who pays the piper calls the tune’.

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The moment wretched open door migration of the congenitally lazy from West Africa and God knows where, is the moment the housing crisis ceases. Stopping REITs gobbling up the only available land would be rather helpful. The restoration of the old Council housing construction campaigns of maybe 30,000 a year (barely 10,000 last year), elimination of useless ‘glasraí’ levies would accommodate the working class and the money saved from not having to house those welfare tourists called ‘asylum seekers’ in ‘direction provision’ can be devoted to service to allow the homeless to be both treated for mental health issues and housed decently.
If provisional Sinn Fein managed to fool enough of the ill educated to gain government as the main coalition party, it would simply mean accelerated migration and nothing more than a campaign to destroy Irish landlords and property and ensure than the private rental sector is own by Germans, Americans and the Duke of Westminster.

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1.23
What a viscious, cynical comment! P.McV. SJ was living out his Society’s charism enunciated by Pedro Arrupe S.J. of living WITH the poor and marginalised and not just giving charity to them. What a twisted and warped interpretation of the man’s life choices. You were probably occupying salubrious parochial lodgings while he was climbing up the stairs in Ballymun because the lift was out of action.
You assure readers “it’s no burden to Peter McVerry at all…”
Fr Peter McVerry suffers assault at his home
He received light injuries and did not contact gardaí.
Monday 13 June 2022 21:15 59,343 24
HOMELESSNESS CAMPAIGNER FATHER Peter McVerry suffered minor injuries after he was the victim of an assault at his own home.
The Peter McVerry Trust issued a statement after speculation about the incident appeared on social media.

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They might be accommodated in other parts of East Clare, Scarriff, Sixmilebridge to name just a few places.

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9:16 priests are Garda vetted so no reason why they cannot immediately take in homeless Irish & Ukrainians- unlike family homes who have to consider the safety of their children and vulnerable elderly parents etc. Most priests live solo in 3/4 bed homes & some parishes have at least one additional unoccupied house and/or church buildings.

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Why single out priests??? Have you evidence to show that “most priests live solo in 3/4 bed homes etc.etc. You should not print a comment if you cannot stand behind it.

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It would be interesting to know what percentage of the Garda are Mass goers.

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@11:47 Bishop Pat, I would say that percentage could possibly just over single digits? Also I did not know priests are vetted! If vetting was a yearly process after time the church would be in a serious lot of bother! I’ve known a few priests, and still know 2 and are highly respected, and this is Killaoe. 1 genuinly shocked us for his behaviour in Galway. I am not a practising Catholic, I would never speak ill of clergyman and your vocation but there are few that justified my opinion that apart from funerals, the lovey Church that I helped rebuild, is not the place for me. 🤔😒

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@11:44 certain who vets the Gardaí who among them have some of the laziest and bullying characters (recall what happened to Frank Shortt) in this country. Those people loved COVID lockdowns as their inner Fuehrers could safely come out.

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Bishop Bling is living in a sumptuous palace surrounded by four acres of land. Meanwhile,the Catholic school which is adjacent to his palace is crying out for space to create a modern environment in which they can teach and develop our young people. Is Blings ego such that he can sit and survey his lands while Catholic secondary school children are huddled into ageing unfit buildings and cold mobile huts. I don’t recall Christ living in luxury such as this. Is Blings way of living in keeping with his boss Pope Francis teachings? This land belongs to the diocese,the people of the diocese and should be made available to the school for much needed development. Bishop Emeritus Walsh,s house in leafy Waterloo Park lies empty and could accommodate Bling adequately. After all does a do nothing bishops really need 4 acres whilst schoolchildren have a much greater need for space. Then again does Bling even care!

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@9:20am
Gross exaggeration does the blog and Pat no favours. A quick satellite view of Lisbreen, Belfast on Google Maps shows that it sits on barely a quarter of an acre, at most. If you wanted to make a truthful point you could deplore the fact that Lisbreen is a 15,000 square foot property, as reported on the front page of the Irish News a few years ago.

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Pat there seems to be some confusion on this blog as regards time…..some are showing as one hour behind. Can that be fixed? For example a comment was made at 9.12am and made a another comment @ 9.13 with a correction to his 9.12 comment, but it showed 10.12 on the blog. Has anybody else noticed this?

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I see. There does seem to be some glitches on this platform. I’m not tech savvy enough to sort it.

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10.23 Acres was an American (USA) Jesuit known to a select few in Ireland. He hosted second level students from Boston College on tours all over the world. It ended in great sadness. Enough said. A lot of acres when others look on longingly is not good. Never ends well. Oh Yes, Acres and Daddy. Boston. It never all came out, lots of money and monied involved.

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3.16
I though Boston College was a third-level institute, therefore without second-level students.

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That is disgraceful of Bishop to deny space to cramped school premises next door but they’ve covered up child abuse before so no surprise they don’t care about the kids & so yet another good example of why clergy & their cohorts must be excluded from having any more of their self interested input or influence in education system.

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11.21 Confused all right – that’d be like all the thick as mince gay Bishops & clergy who knowingly opted for a life in the Roman Catholic Church & we can all see what that has led to….

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You are confused and thick as mince, 10.46. On the one hand you want the bishop to hand over land to a school (though that’s a state responsibility), but you also want the bishop to have no influence or input to education. 🤔

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10.46 agreed, no one connected to an internationally & officially recognised abusive organisation being the Roman Catholic Church should have access to personal student data.

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11:21 Those two things are far from incompatible. It’s perfectly possible to give land to a school AND not dictate what goes on in it.
The fact you can’t see that speaks volumes.

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11.44 Very important question. Its full of them, as time goes by more will find print but slowly and with resistance. They protect there own with far more culpability than the RCC. WM

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This tale can’t stop wagging. It’s like a game of episcopal chess, with Bishop Pat placing his brother Bishop in check. Silverstream is living up to it’s name…a rich stream of content for Bishop Pats blog. I particularly like mention of Pope Francis, as well as potential housing for people out of home, from financial gains for the Diocese of Meath. Next move, please…

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Few bishops, Bishop Buckley an exception, realise the innate worth of a pawn, the precious vulnerability of the powerless. RC bishops tend to use the Queen to noble, and invariably stuff it up.

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Does this mean that the ex NAMA man they hired, Martin Ridge, is kick starting the sale of Irish church properties?

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@9.33 has Martin Ridge confirmed how much will be allocated from these property disposal sales for homeless provision?

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10.10. How much do YOU give to the homeless? Have you sold your house or given it to a homeless person (though you are probably an NIHE tenant yourself lol).

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11:23 I happen to know that many commenters here are vulnerably housed and in precarious situations about state. I also note that you take the opportunity to comment on social housing.
Thank you for demonstrating the church’s standard hatred and abuse of the vulnerable.

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1.14: You may be vulnerable but your response to 11.23 is totally disingenuous. How do you know that many commenters on this blog are vulnerable? Reading the vicious, nasty comments at times, I doubt if they are genuinely vulnerable, i.e. the people who are truly in need. How could any vulnerable person avoid being hurt by some of the horrible nastiness on this blog?

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3:00 Thank you for demonstrating your immediate invalidation and gaslighting. Didn’t it occur to you that several people who comment here may know each other in real life?
The reason we don’t reveal that fact or our identities is the likely treatment by you. And you have abundantly proved the wisdom of this policy.

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I wonder is Des Crowley BOI a big help to the RCC as well ? Its wonderful what some folk do for “God.” Thats god who is not seperate from caesar.

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11.18: It’s interesting to note that the Church is criticised for not delegating particularities to lay professional people – architects, financiers, business managers, etc…and yet when we engage such professional people we care excoriated and accused of cronyism or nepotism. I wasn’t trained to be a financiers, though I am a good financial manager, nor was I trained in the management properties or maintenance, so in parishes whetevi’ve had responsibilities, I sought such professional people in the parishes. Nothing wrong with this. It frees me up from being caught up in such worries. It’s both prudent and sensible.

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12.36 I always preferred her linen. The fun we used to have putting it through the wringer and then stretching it and folding it. I was 8 and 10 and 12. She was very old to me. His Holiness could do with a bit of either lace or linen to distract from his ugly countenance. Not as much as the last fella mind you. The carnival is over and its got nothing to do with fabric ( his insult on the night of that unfortunate election when they wanted to tart him up).

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@11:57
Does delegating particularities to lay professional people extend to order of Diaconate?

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12.36 You or Paul Prior might be interested in a new French fashion. Take a look: L’Homme Invisible Paris. Lol Lol

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All you have demonstrated is that you can’t tell the difference between delegating and engaging a contractor.
That’s cathbots for you, folks.

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The new Archbishop of Cardiff and Bishop of Menevia is being installed on Monday in the presence of the Nuncio, Elsie and many others.

On Tuesday the canons of Plymouth will meet to elect an Administrator to look after the Diocese until a new bishop is appointed (Sherrington, Whitmore, Thomas).

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It is my suggestion that the only amounts that have not been adjusted downwards or remained the same in recent years is the amount of an RC bishops pension on this island. I would have every confidence in saying it has probably increased, though I do not have that knowledge. Pity that information has not yet made it to the public sphere , that would tell a lot about how the church executives really view the downward spiral of income! Another ruse. Bishop Deenihan has nothing to worry about in his fiscal future, its a different matter for his clergy, as well as his brother CEOs on the island.

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Diocese of Killaloe priests who have family members/friends connected to charitable housing/school boards and NAMA. Discuss.

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Our Bingo Hall in the centre of Ennis town was not advertised to the open market, it looks like it agreed between Diocese of Killaloe manage Clare County Council only so no competition for the acquisition.

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Christians shouldn’t gamble or play games of chance. A bingo hall is not part of the Church’s mission.

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10:54 What has 75 balls and keeps the ladies smiling? Up with Bingo. Down with RCC suppression.

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Who do those priests think they are selling the bingo hall to the council. When are the council going to fire up the bingo again, town is dull as dishwater now on a Sunday evening.

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10.54 Ennis Parish have been making a bomb from the Bingo for decades! What’s changed all of a sudden?? A town without a bingo hall is no more use than an ashtray on a motorbike.

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10:54 : The perennial problem: what shouldn’t be done versus what is done.

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10:54 Going to church can be the biggest gamble of your life and lead to the greatest losses.

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That’s the Church for you, they want our money to build things & then give us no say when they are taking away our facilities & selling them without our permission after we paying for them in first place.

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Y’all do realize you can play bingo online don’t you. 😂
Like everything connected to the church in any way the stated issue in this discussion is a front for the real issue…

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What is a vocation to the Priesthood or Religious Life?If its a call from God why are so many misfits serving in the church? Has God stopped calling or have men and women stopped answering.When I was growing up in Waterford we had Fr Sean Nugent as our CC in Knockanore I remember him many years later as a great person and cringe to think what he would say about all the dirty laundry aired in the press and the lack of trusted Priests and Religious serving in our parishes.Is it time to reconsider what a calling from God vocation is.

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2:39
Speaking of horses any tips for Ascot,Bella? What did Bishop Phonsie do to you, you sounds miffed.

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12.52 good idea – as I see that a direct request for a published response in local Ennis newspapers has been issued to the Bishop of Killaloe via this blog today.

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Pat, you are forever talking about the need for the Church to be a welcoming place for everyone, gay or straight, divorced or single, women or married, trans people and all the marginalised. Francis says the same things, yet both you and Francis seem to want to drive out of the Church those who worship in the way our forbears did for many centuries. No pastoral accompaniment or inclusion for them, it seems.

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10.03: Since you raised the subject, be brave and honest and tell us what you think!! And validate your allegations with sure proof.

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11.06: I don’t ever engage in such dangerous speculations or allegations. But we await the validated proofs of the assertions made by 10.03 but I suspect he’ll stay in hiding – cowardly.

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@12:27 If you think that you can beat us when this all comes out, you are sadly mistaken. Knowing how your mind works, I am fairly certain that you have been greatly mollified by the recent Amber Heard / Johnny Depp trial. Don’t be foolish enough to think that you, like Johnny, will win. You may have your “connections” but we have the truth so go right ahead and try Georgie. Lola & Co. are ready for you.

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12:01 Didn’t they teach you at Gaynooth the difference between an allegation and a legitimate topic for discussion? What a waste of taxpayers’ money. The fact that you are so touchy on the subject speaks volumes.

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12:01 Easily determined,Nationally, in due course. Another research project for those inclined.

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One of my favorite things on this blog is the way the cathbots only want anyone to say anything after a criminal conviction. They’ve got used to this approach from reading about the clergy in the press, obviously.

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11.21 Like Auld Nancy Pelosi gives to her husband. Its on record. She makes a boast of her Catholicism, her son in law is from my adopted county.

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1:15 Third eye eh? All the signs point to the fact that you are a Buddhist at heart. Is your good news that you found a job at a Buddhist monastery?

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12:51 The Third Eye aka Ger Fitzgerald: No need to use veiled threats…we are already watching very carefully to see what happens. I think that the blog readers can safely conclude from your anonymous postings today that you are planning on going public with your version of events. Your snide little comments about my research and insights are typical of you. Yourself and Terry used to joke about you being an “elitist snob”. It appears to be not that far off from the truth. You want a battle, you’ll get a battle. Sleep well Georgie Porgy. You’ll need your rest because the fight has only just begun.

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Never let it be forgotten: Cathal Daly could get one of Michael Ledwiths victims a job in Bank of Ireland as soon as the matter was of major concern. That victim was an exceptional gentleman and because of his naive rosy view of the would ( and rich family background) was putty to the ways of ML. But he was facilitated by Church and State although he had failed three sets of exams in succession in NUI, I do not know whether he matriculated in the first place but I suspect he didn’t and ML would have arranged his place in NUI. He deserved help and happiness and security in his future. But the connection between banking and religion is both powerful and sinister. But Banks and the RCC do not help everyone. Euphemism.

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11.28 Bankers & Church Wankers go together like a horse & carriage. Insider Dealers – bank managers, undertakers & clergy & the professional classes.

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A lot of families in Ireland had a priest and a banker among them including Crowely’s, and the publican of course as well. Father Clancy Maynooth 80s 90s; ” My mother died pulling a pint.” What a total edit and buffoon; his mouth was wider that the Amazon , very useful to “President” his affectionate term for Michael L who heard everything from him! Its no wonder its all where it is Lol Lol

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One family member was given the farm or family business another family member sent to univetsity for professional career banking law and medicine. A nd one family member became a priest and a nun in the case of female member. Therfore its not surprising the church is well connected with all the top powers in soceity. I forgot another member would join a prominent political party.

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12.01 true & don’t forget the bit where they also married their cousins to keep land & money in the family! That explains a lot too!

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This is the real reason Roman Catholics go ape when you say the word Anglican to them. They don’t give a shit about the religious principles supposedly involved, their anger is because the ties of church/state power were untied from them. Incidentally I love the way the Church of England took much of its character from the pre reformation RC church in England: that’s some high class trolling.

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Because it’s in England. Did you expect it to be called the Church of Spain?
I’m the commenter at 12:48 and I’m delighted you proved my point so quickly.

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Let’s face it, England will be a Muslim country in 20 years time, so what the Anglican church in England is called will be neither here nor there.

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Bishop Michael Smith was a good man, decent too. Except, except, except to men who left the priesthood, he was quite cruel to the ones I knew and know of, he considered it treason I suppose or the “Judas” word that Montini used, they don’t like insiders going outside…but pretty decent when they are in the harness of the carriage that carried him. You do know that the people of Carlingford use to unharness the horses on the outskirts of the village and pull the Armagh Archbishop to his house when he visited it in Carlingford having ‘carraged’ ( no such word) from Ara Coeli, not Conway but not long before that!!!!

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@12:37 “except to men who left the priesthood” lol
That’s not very nice. It’s weird the Meath is one of the only dioceses where we don’t know who left or who has left and why they left. At least one youngish ‘former’ priest is in a gay relationship, that wasn’t written on any diocesan website wishing him well. In Meath you don’t know who to wish well on their journey to lay-land because you’re not told

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4.08 Clearly I have more years behind me than your good self. Anybody I knew in Meath from my time left to marry and it was then always to a woman. Michael Smith used to offer psychiatric assistance to try and help them with the problem i.e the woman. There is time before your lifetime young man or woman.

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12.25: I was educated in a much more prestigious college than Maynooth. Never set foot in the place. I am merely challenging the allegations made by 10.03, which is perfectly legitimate. Liars ir triubke majers must be chalkenged. But if 10.03 is a coward, so be it. Let him put his arguments forward first and with validated proof, not hearsay or speculation. If you are 10.03 or whoever, your articulation is very impoverished and vacuous.

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I’d ask for your money back. Your prestigious education hasn’t stopped you missing the point of 12:25’s comment. 😂

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‘legitimately questioned about their allegations, suspicions or hearsay.’
It’s even worse than I thought. You say that but don’t ask me any legitimate questions, thus meaning I can’t answer at all!
This must be what the Inquisition felt like, and I’m sure that’s very much how you see yourself.

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12.02: Now you’re being silly. Utterly silly. Liars and trouble makers are easily detected on this blog because they never follow up when legitimately questioned about their allegations, suspicions or hearsay. Guess you or the original commenter don’t have the guts or courage to enlighten us…Adios.

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I imagine it was a reference to Bishop Michael Router, current auxiliary in Armagh and widely expected/tipped to be the next Bishop of Down and Connor.

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We don’t need another Cavan bogman getting a diocese. That gombeen Brady was more than enough for the next hundred years.

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3.22 Would not be wise. Like his promoter and Patron; very limited, a nice fellow but wooden and limited. Down and Connor deserves better. Bollox Martin clearly wants rid of him cause he’s kind of an honest broker for the foot soldiers. The man for Down and Connor is in Down and Connor, hopefully the incoming nunkio has a bit of energy and drive, not like the last two Dick-Heads, thats their cranium not their roman columns. And Roman Colums got them the job.

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3.22 Oil is to water what Traynor is to Router. Both valuable but they have their place.

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Citing Luke:8-9 in The Dubliners, Chapter “Grace” Joyce continues ” It was a text for business men and professional men. Jesus Christ with His divine understanding of every cranny of our human nature, understood that all men were not called to the religious life, that by far the vast majority were forced to live in the world, and to a certain extent, for the world:and in this sentence He designed to give them a word of counsel, setting before them as exemplars in the religious life those very worshippers of Mammon who were of all men the least solicitous in matters religious.”
It had taken me a couple of decades to get a real handle on Joyce, now I can’t stop dipping in to his pool of the Living Word, a Logos himself.
Pity Leo did not have to hand what John Wise said, that it was Bloom that gave the idea of Sinn Fein to Griffith, there then follows the foibles go that organisation then and now!!!! usually around pg 436 of Ulysses. In my 50’s now Ulysses is a wonderful hobby: imagine an epic work finishing with the beauty of a woman having an orgasm…in Ireland one hundred years ago !!!! Before 1920/1916 Ireland was not so under the thumb of the RCC!!! A restaurant on Abbey St. that seated 2000 people!!!

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Where is the money that the Diocese of Killaloe received for the bingo hall? Did they spend it on housing projects for the homeless or what are they doing with it. My mother enjoyed meeting people at the bingo and now it’s been taken away from her and her friends. This question deserves a clear answer and not heaps of cheek from anonymous priests around Ennis who don’t want us the parishioners asking them questions. We paid for that hall & we want to know where our money is???

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I think Killaloe invested in Bank of Scotland, Hugh Jones ( nephew of Christy…cleric in Maynooth in my time) who is an absolute Gentleman, extremely good looking so prevailed on their lordships to invest…all went belly up and they are now forever trying to make it up !!! If Hugh was not of such pleasant bearing, not a few Irish dioceses would have their money. Eugene Sweeney saved Armagh from Gombeen Bradys wishes !!! Armagh consequently have no fiscal worry. Auld Brady must have liked the look of Hugh. he came back from Prince William and Kate wedding raving about David Beckam….he also was very taken with George Ganswein !!!!! There is nothing to understand in economics ….its all personal….have you ever met anyone successful in finance that was not of pleasant bearing. Their souls are a different story!!! Not Hughs…he is the real deal ( He is still friendly with Nulty, though Nulty gets all the benefits). Lol Lol

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It is a fair question. It was asso much more than a bingo hall too, as taking care of homeless and old folk, I do recall this as my mum volunteered there. Location alone was worth money to some. Unfortunately whatever funds it made did not make its way to homeless people in the diosese.

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3:15 yes, years ago they did what was known as the penny dinners for elderly and poor people and also in more recent times. It was the hub for the vulnerable in the centre of our town. Very suitable for poor with no cars and no one to give them lifts – it was a drop in centre accessible to the truly needy.

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@1.20 you have asked some very straightforward questions about the bingo hall in Ennis that deserve a straightforward answer. I see no reason why the Bishop and his team cannot print the accounts & explanation of this matter to the bingo goers in the local newspapers this week. The two main newspapers in Clare are The Clare Champion Newspaper, John Galvin and The Clare Echo Newspaper, Stuart Holly. Pax

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Of course ‘couldn’t run a bingo hall’ is a common idiom and its meaning is relevant here.

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4.00 The Clare Champion is a Galvin family newspaper as well, decades old. Two brothers now…the old story. Major RC leanings in both!

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6:23 The Galvins operate a local newspaper that serves the people of Clare who have been buying and advertising in his family newspapers for generations. They sell several pages of broadsheet sized anniversaries, planning applications and the like every week.

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2.14 That is very healthy. Rootedness. Them thats putting in decorative grass in their gardens, the plastic petroleum stuff may have a home but they do not understand rootedness. Rootedness gives life whether a sense of place/ home or the process that causes nitrogen. Very healthy Pat and nice to be able to say, whetter Larne or Tullamore you have the gift of “making” home…..not given to all by life. I liked reading your comment.

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2:14 a “sense of place” & connection to our beloved ancestors is very important for ones overall sense of well being, it’s immoral that being deliberately dispossessed in these challenging times is socially acceptable despite the long term damaging consequences that we hear about as the vulnerable of all ages & backgrounds now struggle with precarious work and housing etc.

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+Pat you have highlighted the corrupted visitation, and the near destruction of Fr Andersen’s priesthood for whistleblowing on Dom Kirby, but destroying Silverstream will do no one good. It is frankly ill-willed, I must say. The wishes of Pope Francis are a short term concern at this point. The ‘spirit of V2’ delusion he seems to follow has destroyed Catholicism in Europe and LatAm (now minority Catholic).
Only in the little mind of Arthur the ignorant, near bankrupter of Leeds, eulogiser of Jimmy Saville, is the Mass and Office in Latin against V2 in general and SC in particular. Probably Arthur doesn’t think so for during Benedict’s time he was all Hermeneutic of Continuity, and Pope Francis saw a parrot who says whatever he is bid. Latin New Order and LOTH is a typical enough congregational solution. If Silverstream was to be properly incorporated into one of the Benedictine confederations, that might be a solution, like Solesmes (which does a very fine chant edition of the NOM) and another Benedictine house (whose name escapes me) which follows the ‘transitional’ Missal of 1964 or 1966 which is the actual Mass of V2, or like Barroux, a standard 1960/2 Mass. Fr Andersen should be made Abbot and the current not ordained pro-Abbot might possibly do with some help for his internet habits. Silverstream is one of the few religious houses in this country not a haunt of older men who would normally be old to follow the normal rigours of monastic live whether Office or work.
In most dioceses, finances can be fragile, churches can need a deal of work, many priests are aged and in fragile health, but almost always giving useless diocesan flunkies a new career opportunity on someone else’s payroll and useless schemes being abandoned, can resolve financial issues. Probably +Pat is jesting, but the destruction of Silverstream and selling off of the land would be short-sighted, and a fine old house would be lost and the site become a blight and another instance of urban sprawl, merely feeding a contrived housing crisis (a result of uncontrolled migration and unrealistic household expectations among poorer people).

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‘Probably Arthur doesn’t think so for during Benedict’s time he was all Hermeneutic of Continuity,’
I wouldn’t plump for either as being his real thoughts – like all clerics he’ll think what is expedient.
I believe the pretend traditionalist abbot of Farnborough has been hob nobbing with him and is also noted for previously being a raging liberal.

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@ 2:50pm
How right you are about the cockroach he swings whatever way the wind blows. People have short memory’s during Benny’s time he was all for the hermeneutic of contanuity which all changed when the dictator Fanny arrived with a new agenda. I’ve said it before the Vatican is infested with cockroaches like Arthur. A visit from Rent A Kill is the only solution to clear out this nest of vipers🙄🙄🙄

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3:21 indeed, you’d need good powerful lighting, clerics too much addicted to keeping the sheep in the dark.

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Enough of this annual candles of atonement lighting caper in Cathedrals and parishes day of prayer for Victims and Survivors of abuse.Spill the beans.Let your light shine. We have had enough darkness.

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Every diocese on the Island of Ireland needs to be independently investigated.
Safeguarding MUST be completely independent of the RCC.

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6.14
Especially that diocese which discontinued your association as a seminarian, with the co-operstion of the seminary council. That was a very narrow escape for which said diocese can be eternally grateful.

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3;39. You say the man to be next Bishop of Down and Connor is in the diocese. Now who might that be?

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Hopefully it’s a long time away but when your own time comes bishop Pat should we expect a large turnout of your brother bishops to crowd the sanctuary in the Oratory?
Can we expect the Solemn Office to be chanted by those adorned with royal baubles?
As an act of reparation do you think the panegyric will be delivered by the current occupant of the See of Waterford and Lismore?

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I can’t see any of your questions being answered in the affirmative 😀

But as Ghandi said: “If a million people follow you, ask yourself: “Where did I go wrong”?

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Is this a suggestion; ‘my send off will be bigger than your send off’?
Even the mafioso have big turn outs with big send offs.

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5:03 Thank God that we will be spared the usual turnout out of insincere funeral thugs and graveyard ghouls in the hopefully very far off day we go to pray for and pay our respects to the only decent Bishop on the Island of Ireland being Bishop Pat Buckley.

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4.48: Why would Pat or anyone expect bishops and clerics to attend his funeral considering the venomous, ugly and degrading comments made about them by Pat? Even today, the use of denigratory words like “bollocks” “cockroache” and other ugly, descriptive words are a travesty of respect, decency and fairness. The effeminate name calling and sexualized imagery and ridiculing cartoons used by Pat and commenters render Pat undeserving of respect. Also, Pat has no affinity or connection with the Irish Hierarchy. He left the Catholic Church and presbyterate to be totally independent. Pat certainly deserves admiration for his courage in many ways and for highlighting all kinds of abuses but his disdain, contempt and utter disrespect for Bishops and clerics carries consequences. Pat is not a team player: never was and never will be. He prefers to be in control of his agenda and destiny.

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5.49 A number of Bolloxi appeared from the ” synodal process” on the RTE news just now. Believe me I am being polite.

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I don’t want any of them near my funeral. If they arrived I’d get up and put them out like a previous Patrick banished the 🐍 of his day 😀

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4;48
You said it all in ‘he’s not a team player’
He doesn’t indulge in shady dealing in matters financial or cover up. Nor has he, to the best of my knowledge, covered up for child abusers or abused other clerics out of spite or retribution.
He has had the courage to follow his heart and call out hypocrisy and sham pretentiousness.
Of course he’s not a ‘team player’ He has courage and conviction and as someone who knows plenty of bishops, past and present, and lots of priests my personal opinion is that he has more integrity and honesty than many of them.
Right from the day he stood in front of Daly he showed he had something most of the others who sat in the pews in choir dress hadn’t Balls!
As for allowing the name calling. Well, it pales into insignificance compared to the cat calling , bitchiness and back stabbing I witness on a daily basis in my presbyterate.
As old Corporal Jones used to say “They just don’t like it up’em’

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@ 5:49pm
Oh get a grip! tell us anyone of them that deserve respect. They all need a belt of their own croziers. The majority of them have brought The Church to disgrace because they do not act as shepherds to their clergy never mind the faithful. While I very seldom agree with Patsy he is treated with disdain contempt and no respect from that crowd of vipers. You can’t blame him for returning the favour.

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Show respect for victims and survivors of Catholic Church abuse.
God loves All equally not just men in Mitres.
Did God sanction child rape and abusive cover ups to Popes?

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Anon at 5.49: very good observations. Well spoken. Pat is inherently a good person but is lacking balanced judgment at times.

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@5:58 Bishop Pat, I wouldn’t let many of them near my funeral either! 👏Honestly I do not see the need for funerals, I don’t think it helps anyone, and certainly not the one in the box.

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@6:18
Its obviously an addictive behaviour pattern due to chemical imbalances from the collar up.

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What a shameful bunch who consider denigratory ugly descriptive words a travesty of respect decency and fairness. My God, have you lot any idea of the suffering, pain and hurt caused due to your clericalism. Your obsession over ‘Hats’ cliques and clubbing., protecting deviants, moving them about for the good of the Church- It was for the good of clerical club.
Its outrageous. Utterly outrageous. White washed clerical codology. Your moral credibility is gone.

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https://cruxnow.com/church-in-europe/2022/06/romes-foremost-anti-abuse-institute-tackles-abuse-of-adults
Rome’s foremost anti-abuse institute tackles abuse of adults
By Inés San Martín. Rome Bureau Chief .Jun 17, 2022.
” ROME – One of the Catholic Church’s foremost anti-abuse institutions, part of Rome’s Pontifical Gregorian University, announced last October plans to expand its mandate to include the sexual and spiritual abuse of adults.”

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Oh, there’s an abundance of theoretical Canon Fodder available for conceptual analysis to further the career of an aspiring academic with potential research grants from Roma. After all, Ireland is considered the ground zero of abuse worldwide in the Catholic Church.

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Silverstream is truly the gift that keeps on giving … an almost endless stream of content for this blog. Keep it up, lads!

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5.49 A selection Of Bolloxi appeared on the RTE news just now from their synodal process, the one from Limerick is the only one that spoke in antiquated language about what the church want ” to give” people. Antiquated. Believe me 5.49 I am being polite, sorry if your sensibilities are offended, you don’t get it either!

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Pat, just been at the Gathering in Athlone all day about the outcome, recommendations and feedback from Parish Synodal Meetings. Some wonderful sharings and presentations and what wonderful and inspiring presentation from all kinds of groupings, especially from “We are Church” in relation to sexual identity, gender issues and the role of the laity and women in the Church. Perhaps you might read the compiled report from all parishes in the various Dioceses on their websites. Great food for prayer, challenge, thought and inspiration. Interesting times await a new reformed Church…

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6.17 Share with us one idea. one new concept. one reform, one sentiment of ” forwardness’ you took or gleaned from the proceedings you “shared in” today, please ?

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For a spy you’re remarkably slow. The original comment tells you where to find the information you say you want, but obviously don’t really. I don’t blame 6.17 for not replying to you.

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8:22
Are you a double agent because if you carefully read 7:42 question to Padraig it asked for what one new concept, reform, sentiment of ‘forwardness’, Padraig took or gleaned from the proceedings. But you wouldn’t be Padraig, now, would you.So why answer for Padraig?

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@6:17pm
Padraig ya poor soul if your inspired by the heretics “we are Church” you’re in a bad way. Interesting times await a new reformed Church! where have you been the last 40years, its been so reformed it is unrecognizable as The Catholic Church. Its not reform that’s needed it’s return Please God.

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10.44 The Bishop of Galway and Clonfert was there, saw him on the news. He was probably the youngest.

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11:17 the “official” double jobber now with at least 2 Palaces.

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8.22 I can see from your opening few words that your attention to detail is slim. Forget I asked you, it was not for information, it was an invitation to share. You make good company for vacuous episcopi.

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https://www.dw.com/en/m%C3%BCnster-bishop-refuses-to-quit-after-sexual-abuse-report/a-62171600
MüNSTER (GERMANY)
Deutsche Welle [Bonn, Germany] June 17, 2022.
Münster bishop refuses to quit after sexual abuse report
“The Catholic bishop of the western German city of Münster says he won’t resign in light of a report that criticizes the way he dealt with sexual abuse. Felix Genn admitted mistakes but said he did not cover up anything.”
https://www.bishop-accountability.org/category/news-archive/abusetracker/

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5.58: Pat, I’m shocked at your attitude. I really am. Surely, at this stage of your life, enemities and differences should be banished. After all, no Bishop alive has done anything egregious to you, not that I’m aware of. I pray to God that you’ll find some forgiveness and healing and that you’ll offer forgiveness and healing to those you have hurt.

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All eyes on Armagh then . . .
The clergy of Tyrone and Armagh will be on good form next weekend. I hear a midnight tour of forests is on the cards 😂

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There is uproar in the Cistercian monastery in Roscrea. The monks have started to kick back against Mal Thompson. His obsession with keeping the College open when it is losing money has resulted in arguments and recriminations. Malachy has become isolated. The Abbot General has been asked to intervene.

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Monks? There’s only 6 and 2 of those are in a Nursing Home elsewhere. Fight, did you say? They’re hard set to walk

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Purcells connections are extensive, he was a "talented" networker. Perhaps even stonger now. Others have more to loosesays:

7.19 Dick Spring, Jim Glennon, David Andrews, Barry Cowen and Brian Cowen. Men of influence. All alumni. A lot went on and is going on concerning that College.

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On the Feast of Corpus Christi, those of us who partake of the EUCHARIST should remember that by doing so we commit ourselves to living the values of Jesus. What a challenge! Perhaps the most important word spoken at Mass after the Words of Consecration is AMEN…I believe. And as we leave we are called to “Go in peace to love and serve the Lord”. In other words – to become what we receive – THE BODY OF CHRIST for one another in lives of Christ like service. Powerful words but tough.

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Only with the consent of anyone who has been injured or suffered.
A valuable biblical perspective which you will never hear from the cathbots is that Zaccheus paid back fourfold.

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10.20 It was never a question with you before, you always uttered it as a statement; Mistakes of the past can be rectified. I am well versed in who you are. It was not a mistake.

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Anon.10.20 To answer your question – yes all mistakes of the past can be rectified. Always remember that God is a forgiving God..No matter what mistakes have been made by a person in their past, all sins are forgiven by going to confession or making a public confession.

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Direct Message/Request for Bishop Fintan Monahan, Diocese of Killaloe regarding Ennis Bingo Hallsays:

Dear Bishop Monahan
As you are aware, many older bingo attendants are non-users of technology so in the interests of equality of access, we require your printed response in The Clare Champion newspaper and in the free newspaper The Clare Echo this week regarding the queries that have been raised on this blog today regarding the sale of our parish bingo hall to Clare County Council. Thank you.

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8.01 All their diocesan property is vested in a Trust. The Trust is part of a registered diocesan charity. You are legally entitled to the information you request.

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11:14
For extremely strong reasons. You only know a portion. You don’t know what you don’t know.
Before long, The Irish Catholic Church will learn a lesson never to be forgotten. Never. Chalk it down.
The phrase, from back in the day; ‘rock the foundations of the State,’ springs to mind.
Rock on…
‘It ain’t over till the fat lady-Mathilda-sings!!!’

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5.49pm
Ah poor baby bishops can’t abide a little name calling – thing is they do a fair bit of that themselves about (privately of course)
Victims of child abuse
Anybody who gives them grief by calling them out
The meeja
Nobody derserves respect the can only earn it.

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Ennis Bingo Hall and Deenihans land beg a question about property vested in diocesan trusts and the role of each particular bishop. What is the decision process involved ? Who are the decision makers ? In the two cases here, who makes the decision on the availability for sale? New ground under charity legislation. Demand accountability with the help of the fine print in Trust and Charity contracts.

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9:00pm
‘Come to him, a living stone, though rejected by mortals yet chosen and precious in God’s sight, and like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood.’
1 Peter (ironic, really) 2:4-5.

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“Even now,” declares the LORD, “return to me with all your heart, with fasting and weeping and mourning.”

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