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STATUS OF US PRIEST WHO RECENTLY JOINED SILVERSTREAM?

Dear Bishop Lucia,

On the occasion of your birthday, I extend to you best wishes and warm greetings from the island of Ireland as we celebrate the Solemnity of St. Patrick.

On January 17, 2023 Fr. Matthew Lyons, was accepted into the novitiate and clothed in the Benedictine habit at Silverstream Priory.

MATTHEW LYONS THEN

I presume he did so with your permission and approbation. The aforesaid Fr. Lyons was ordained to the priesthood on June 3, 2017, at Holy Cross Church, DeWitt by your predecessor Bishop Robert Joseph Cunningham.

LYONS AND CUNNINGHAM

As a consequence of that sacramental and juridical act; it is appropriate that I now write to highlight known issues about Silverstream Priory and to ask you a number of pertinent questions, which any fair-minded and reasonable individual will recognise as legitimate for the greater good of the Church.

Bishop Lucia, are you aware that the founding superior of Silverstream Priory, Fr. Mark Daniel Kirby, OSB, was the subject of a number of credible allegations of sexual and financial misconduct? It is probable that you are unaware that Fr. Kirby has been embroiled in sexual scandal and controversy for most of his monastic and priestly life.

KIRBY

However, on this occasion Fr. Kirby’s luck ran out because the Bishop of Meath, Thomas Deenihan decided that the allegations against Fr. Kirby were sufficiently serious, so he [Bishop Deenihan] personally decided to refer the accusations against Fr. Kirby to the Irish police force, An Garda Síochána. Again, it is not unreasonable to presume that you are unaware that a detective from that police force spent over a year investigating Fr. Kirby. And upon the conclusion of the investigation the detective felt there was sufficient evidence to justify a prosecution and submitted a file of evidence to the Director of Public Prosecutions, [hereinafter, DPP] which in American parlance is the equivalent of the attorney general of the state of New York, ie, Letitia James.

For reasons that remain arcane, the DPP decided not to commence a criminal prosecution of Fr. Kirby. No doubt they were cognisant of the reality that the cult-like membership that constitutes the monastic community of Silverstream Priory, (who believe that Fr. Kirby is a mystic and to whom some believe Jesus speaks to [Fr. Kirby] from the tabernacle) would be unlikely to give evidence against Fr. Kirby in open court. Whilst, I am not an attorney, there was also a public interest issue that probably also underpinned the decision-making of the DPP not to prosecute. And Fr. Kirby does not enjoy good health; so, the outcome was not a vindication, it was more of a lucky escape.

However, the decision-making of the DPP does not mean that Fr. Kirby was canonically rehabilitated; his on-going absence from the community that he founded is a source of scandal and speculation. Moreover, for reasons that are inexplicable, the Ordinary of the Diocese of Meath is being deliberately obtuse about the location of Fr. Kirby. From the perspective of the experience of the American Church, (that appears to have learned the lessons that flow from safeguarding failures) it is inexcusable that Bishop Deenihan is unwilling/unable to apprise people if Fr. Kirby, who was incardinated into the Diocese of Meath by Decree is a priest in good standing with his Ordinary.

Using any yardstick, Fr. Kirby represents a significant safeguarding issue and the on-going failure of the Diocese of Meath to ameliorate the scandal is among a number of issues that will be brought to the personal attention of the Irish Minister for Justice in the not-so-distant future. That office-holder is a parliamentary representative for a constituency in Co. Meath.

Therefore, in light of the above, it is stupefying that Fr. Lyons has chosen to join such a scandal-ridden community. This act, however, has potential implications for the Diocese of Syracuse due to the expansive legal doctrine of vicarious liability within the courts of the British Isles.

MATTHEW LYONS NOW

The Canonical Status of Fr. Lyons.

Again, for the avoidance of any and all doubt, I asseverate in what I have written above that I am not making any allegation against Fr. Lyons; I wish to be unequivocally clear on that point. However, I do wish to obtain answers to the following legitimate questions that any organisation committed to transparency and safeguarding will have no difficulty in answering.

1) Is Fr. Matthew Lyons, a priest in good standing with his Ordinary, the Bishop of the Diocese of Syracuse?
2) Did you give written permission permitting Fr. Matthew Lyons to discern his vocation within Silverstream Priory?
3) Did you give written permission permitting Fr. Matthew Lyons to begin his canonical novitiate in Silverstream Priory?
4) Does Fr. Lyons have your written permission, ie, a celebret that permits him to publicly celebrate the Eucharist in: a) Silverstream Priory; b) any church within the canonical territory of the Diocese of Meath, subject to the further written permission of the Ordinary of that diocese, Bishop Deenihan?
5) Does Fr. Lyons have your written permission to hear sacramental confessions while he is resident OUTSIDE your canonical territory?
6) When Fr. Lyons was resident within your canonical territory — did he have the faculty to absolve from the delict of abortion?

Monastic Profession.

Bishop Lucia, I note you have studied Canon Law at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas (the Angelicum). Therefore, you will be aware and accept the canonical reality that a sui juris monastery of diocesan right is incapable of incardinating clerics, i.e. deacons and priests, and is dependent on the Ordinary of the diocese where it is located. Consequently, this raises all sorts of interesting canonical and legal permutations about the priestly ministry of those clerics, i.e. priests who are professed monks of Silverstream Priory. I do, of course, appreciate it is not something that individuals devote a huge amount of time ruminating upon, however, when it presents intractable legal questions, it behoves careful consideration.

Do you accept that Fr. Lyons for the entirety of his observership/postulancy and for the period of his novitiate remained a priest of the Diocese of Syracuse? Of course, I do acknowledge the possibility that Fr. Lyons might have incardinated in the Diocese of Meath in a moment of madness to explore his monastic vocation. But for the sake of completeness, before the composition of the present, I checked the directory of the priests in the Diocese of Meath, and he [Fr. Matthew Lyons] is not listed, therein. Then, I checked the website of the Diocese of Syracuse where I learned that “Rev. Matthew T. Lyons” is the “Temporary Administrator, Christ our Hope @ St. Joseph Church”.

Do you further accept that Fr. Lyons if he survives the novitiate and is approved for simple/temporary monastic vows will remain canonically incardinated within the Diocese of Syracuse? If not, I would be curious to see the canonical contortions called upon to justify the proposition that he does not remain a cleric subject to your jurisdiction by virtue of his simple and monastic profession.

If and when, Fr. Lyons decides to make solemn monastic profession at Silverstream Priory, subject to the usual caveats what happens to his canonical status as a priest of the Diocese of Syracuse?

Will you be required to give your written permission permitting him to make solemn monastic profession? If so, by that juridical act, is it your understanding that Fr. Lyons within cease to enjoy a right of return to the Diocese of Syracuse? Will he be permanently removed from the payroll and health insurance benefits enjoyed by clerics within the diocese? Because Silverstream Priory is incapable of incardinating clerics, do you anticipate that he will be incardinated definitively and permanently into the Diocese of Meath? How do you understand the canonical and legal realities of solemn monastic profession for one of your priests? Is it something you have considered?

As we all know America is an extremely litigious society; therefore, you will accept, I trust, that you as the “Corporation Sole” for the Diocese of Syracuse have an on-going liability for any tortious act that Fr. Lyons may commit while a monk of Silverstream Priory. That is the harsh and hard legal reality. Of course, Bishop Deenihan may have signed a waiver assuming legal responsibility for Fr. Lyons while he is exploring his vocation at Silverstream Priory, but I think that is most unlikely.

Using any yardstick, Silverstream Priory is an absolute scandal; in due course, it will be suppressed, because it is the bastard child that nobody wants; its founding superior is infamous and the second superior has a known and publicly acknowledged addiction to gay pornography. Res ipsa loquitur.

Most respectfully, I would suggest you invoke Fr. Lyon’s vow of obedience and tell him to leave Silverstream Priory with all haste for the greater good of the Diocese of Syracuse. Nonetheless, if Fr. Lyons a sincere in his desire before God that he is called to live a traditional form of Benedictine life, he can consider Clear Creek Abbey in Oklahoma. And if he wants something more authentic, he could learn French and explore the expression of the Benedictine charism in the French-based houses of the Solesmes Congregations. I would, of course, encourage you to discuss the present with your director of legal services.

In conclusion, I would be grateful for an initial acknowledgement of the present and answers to the questions posed herein within five (5) working days.

With prayerful best wishes,

+Pat Buckley

PS: I believe on-going transparency is good for the church, so I will place a copy of this e-mail on my blog. However, in your reply, if you request that your answers are kept confidential; your request will be respected. I will, however, communicate to my readership that you have replied and provided satisfactory answers to the questions posed.

Cc:

⁷His Excellency, Archbishop Montemayor, Apostolic Nuncio of the Holy See to the Republic of Ireland.
Bishop Thomas Deenihan, Bishop of the Diocese of Meath.

100 replies on “STATUS OF US PRIEST WHO RECENTLY JOINED SILVERSTREAM?”

What’s + Elsie got her knickers in a twist about now ? It could be a whole number of things. Perhaps as he’s been recently / still is in Rome, could it be the possibility of CockRoach taking over from him ? I think that’s been suggested on this blog. Elsie won’t like that. Roach is a cardinal in Rome and then to become + Westminster – well, that trumps Elsie, and he does rather like to think of himself as the proverbial rags to riches cleric – Liverpool to Cardinal in Westminster. The man has a huge ego. He does not like to be eclipsed. Sadly, Vin, that’s what happens to us all, and it will happen to you in the not too distant future, and like all your predecessors you will be consigned to some tomb in Westminster and then largely forgotten about. Like us all. So, better get used it, mate…. !

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Cockroach will be a bit like Cardinal Wolsey. They said he maintained the whiff of the butcher’s shop in which he grew up.

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For the sake of accuracy, the nuncio is nuncio to Ireland similar to the way the president is president of Ireland.

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+Pat, you really are treating us. Yesterday, we had the exposure of Purcell’s return to Mount Melleray. Today, we have this fantastic note to the Bishop of Syracuse. It is a delight to read.

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Who is the Belfast based parish priest that you have been following thanks to a lead? Will you be doing that story soon?

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“Using any yardstick, Silverstream Priory is an absolute scandal;”
You’ve hit the nail on the head Pat. It is absolutely scandalous. His Excellency, Archbishop Montemayor must provide Dom Benedict Andersen, the true Prior of Silverstream, with his letter of good standing. It will undermine Fr. Tom Deenihan episcopal leadership, and rightly so. It will send out a clear message. Episcopal bullies must not be tolerated.

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Pat, could your e-mail to Bishop Lucia not have been composed more plainly? Its turgid, canonical legalese is incomprehensible to me, and I couldn’t be bothered dipping into a dictionary to demystify what was expressed. Yes, the e-mail was intended for Bishop Lucia, not for me, nor for any other of your readers. But, then, why blog about it?
Maybe one reason for your rarely receiving a reply to these e-mails is that they are, for the most part, incomprehensible, and, with respect, too boring to persevere in fully reading.

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8.01
Did you never hear of life-long learning? Any educated person is never more than an arm’s length from a dictionary.

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All formators globally seem to be doing a course in Washington to train as formators in recent decades…. since then all seminarians seem to be coming out of seminary lost – leaving their diocese or priesthood soon after ordination, or getting embroiled in controversy. Why are they lost after 6 to 8 years of discernment? And why are so many who leave reporting damaging experiences?

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I think the effects you list existed before the formators’ course, and the course was probably to try to stop them.
I guess you’re not incardinated into Birmingham or you’d have seen this earlier.

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On a minor issue +Pat, is there still a rule that a priest cannot be incardinated into a new Diocese until he has resided in that new Diocese for five years?

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They now celebrate a one year jubilee. Those who get to 5 years get a Bene Merenti and a year’s free subscription to Grindr.

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This is an excellent letter Bishop Pat that clearly outlines the moral and legal FACTS in this matter and asks perfectly reasonable questions, the answers to which must be forthcoming from the recipient in the legal interests of his organisation and in the wider public interest in this serious matter regarding the ongoing failure of the Irish Roman Catholic Church to respect or safeguard the rights and safety of the public including children and vulnerable adults that it continually seeks to encourage to engage with its organisation.
Fr Mark Kirby has been shamelessly protected including being accommodated in a Belgian convent. It is unclear whether Fr Kirby has been allowed to conduct ceremonies and/or to engage in ministry in other Irish or international locations since his scandal ridden exit from the dubious Silverstream Priory here in Ireland.
Meanwhile, it is noted that the Silverstream whistleblower, Dom Benedict Andersen remains maliciously and persistently disadvantaged by the Bishop of Meath, Tom Deenihan, in yet another clear example of how the Irish Bishops proactively discriminate against and engage their clerical and lay teams to punish any whistleblowers or anyone that they perceive will expose their multiple conflicts of sexual, financial and other interests.
We will continue to join Seamus in prayer for a good outcome for Dom. Benedict Andersen and for all other victims and survivors of moral injury and criminal wrongdoing executed by the Holy Ones and their members.
Well done once again Bishop Pat. You are indeed the shining light in a very dark place for those who continue to be proactively victimised by this money mad cult.

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Abbot Brendan Coffey, Glenstal conducted a failed Visitation of Silverstream Priory.
He also tried to force the whistle blower to cover up for Abbot Richard Purcell, Mount Mellary & Roscrea Cistercians aka Rawhide Dick Purcell of the sex on the monastery table scandals and now visibly back in the fold although of course like all the others, he was being financed and protected under the Bishops skirt.
Glenstal’s reputation and that of others in nearby jurisdictions is now damaged after revelations about Gregory Collins.
He is on the Hourigan List.

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+Pat, it is unfortunate that you have had to utilise Fr Lyons to highlight some important and unresolved canonical issues about Silverstream Priory. Great blog today. More like this please.

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Matthew Lyons, another little traddy runt carrying all sorts of odd hangups. Dig a bit deeper and I’m sure you will find a worryingly strange and dysfunctional psychology to the man. Silverstream and such places are magnets for these weirdos where they can hibernate with like minded individuals and hide from a world where they simply cannot survive. Look at the community list at Silverstream and you will see the same kind of character cropping up again and again. We’ve already seen Kitty and Porn Again Elijah featured on this blog. Ah well, as long as they stay gathered together in Silverstream, at least we know where they are and can avoid them. The danger is allowing them to have influence outside Silverstream, which is why hosting youngster such as Scouts at Silverstream is deeply troubling.

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And it’s interesting that they’re mostly (or completely?) not Irish. Despite the claims of the Latin and lace brigade that the old mass is guaranteed to bring in the crowds it mainly hasn’t in the British isles. It’s widely available but I’m not seeing the coaches going to the oratory on a Sunday.
Older, wiser readers will also recognize the promise of a new springtime as being exactly the same as made for liturgical reform after the council. Traddies have no sense of history so wouldn’t notice this.
The reality is that society is no longer interested. The reason they’re interested in the US is they’re more into church going and the reason they’re all barmy is the British sent their religious nuts there.

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4.22
Austen is incredibly more distinguished and erudite than the author of the tweet. Enough sour grapes there to produce a crate of vinegar.

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Clergy, their staff, volunteers and networks use internet and other means to stalk victims who complain or report and to stalk their families and whistleblowers who support them here in Ireland as I’m sure they do elsewhere.
I am very happy to see that social media and the internet will be the undoing of these abusers & their toxic supporters in the longer term.
Roman Catholic priests using dating apps but these same self interested and deeply conflicted priests & members are victimising vulnerable parishioners in various ways.
It’s concerning to see how much power this wealthy church still has although Irish politicians publicly denounce on issues like Irish mother and baby homes but government still inexplicably give Roman Catholic Church charitable tax status, heating & energy and other monetary grants & financial benefits despite church determinedly failing to redress victims of church related abuse.
Actions speak louder than words in my view.

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Michael says he knows nothing. And Father Immediate is stalling.
He is on the Hourigan List.

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Abbot Richard Purcell stands accused of sexual impropriety and is refusing to budge. Has he got “the dirt” on others who are protecting him?
He is also a failed Silverstream Visitor.
Close connections to Abbot Brendan Coffey, Glenstal Abbey and Bishop Fintan Monahan, Diocese of Killaloe amongst others on the Irish scene.
Purcell publicly endorsed publications written by Bishop Monahan who presides over multiple outstanding issues in Killaloe.
He is on the Hourigan List.
Purcell’s meticulous record keeping has guaranteed his Teflon status to date.

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Excuse me, Bishop Fintan inherited problems from Bishop Willie. He has no part in past problems not his problem. He gets on with running the diocese and is doing a fine job. No one is your friend when a Bishop! Even Phonsie knows that..

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Most problems +Lugs faces are entirely of his own making. He is universally despised by Killaloe clergy myself included. He is a very nasty bully

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Irish police investigation concentrating on the financial irregularities and the claims of blackmail and extortion.
It seems that the Silverstream Priory Visitation team which included Abbot Richard Purcell and Abbot Brendan Coffey, Glenstal Abbey and other representatives including Diocese of Killaloe did not answer all the Garda questions.

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Yet another diocesan priest who has spent less time in diocesan priesthood than he spent in discernment and formation.
What the hell’s going on.

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Prior Elijah of Silverstream Priory has a known and widely acknowledged porn addiction
He was in charge of the money in Silverstream Priory.
It is known that Priors including American, Fr Mark Kirby kept substantial amounts of cash in the office safe and same was used at their individual “discretion”.

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Will Silverstream Priory in Ireland ever recover from the Prior Mark Kirby scandals?
As long as Kirby and his connections are linked with Silverstream Priory, his presence will always cast a very dark shadow over Silverstream.
Ex Prior Kirby was publicly reported to have been allowed to return to Silverstream as an ordinary monk with no authority.
Kirby’s ego and neurosis is so big Silverstream never be a healthy place as long as he lingers there.
He can’t be very happy as the founder and former prior living as a good soldier?
And the replacement Prior, Elijah, was not the brightest or strongest button on the shirt and Old Kirby was manipulating him and pulling his strings. Prior Elijah has a porn addiction and other issues.
Kirby has had a very varied and questionable past and seems to never have come to terms with his homosexuality.
He tells people he had sex with a woman ONCE to prove he was not gay!!!
Kirby seems to have a constant requirement for two male companions to accompany him everywhere although he is visibly mobile.

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No, never because as charismatic founder and inspiration he is the priory’s raison d’être. There isn’t another Benedictine monastery of men in the world with their life including perpetual adoration.
The priory possibly could have a future if taken on by Flavigny and steered into a more normal Benedictine life.
Remember everyone there has been formed by Dom Kirby and it is really Kirby’s baby.

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Richard Purcell, the abbot of Mount Mellerary, stands accused of having anal sex with Killaloe priest in the kitchen of Mount Saint Joseph in Roscrea.
He further stands accused of having frequented the Boilerhouse gay sauna in Dublin for recreational gay sex.
He has refused to comment.
He has refused to step aside.
Although, when he was accused initially he ran away and hid in the estate manor house of a friend – and he did not answer calls from his boss, the abbot general.

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+Pat, you and your ghostwriter have been very busy. If I was the Bishop of Syracuse I would be consulting my lawyer and asking him about this communication. But the bishop is a canonist so he probably knows where to find the answers to your questions. You are putting Deenihan on notice that you are going to involve the civil authorities that is a good thing. +Tom will continue to ignore your missives but the fact they are they are on your blog for the whole world to read is evidence that your legitimate concerns have been deliberately ignored.

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Just a thought. Vespers from Silverstream is live on YouTube every evening. As a layperson I have tried to recite part of the Divine Office every day during Lent and I find it a great help to tune in to Silverstream as I love the plain chant even though I am praying in English. But what makes me very sad is to see all those young men apparently so devout and dedicated to their monastic life and knowing as I do the back story. I know it is Pat’s aim in life to close the place down but I wish it was possible to put it under new capable management, as it were, and allow these young men to continue to grow and mature in the life they have chosen

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Has it been three years now that Dom Andersen has been exiled and deprived of a celebret? Simply amazing. What utter villainy and cowardice.

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@Patrick C.

I think it is thoroughly misguided to think that Silverstream can be in some way saved/salvaged. It is not unreasonable to compare Mark Kirby to the despicable founder of the Legionaries of Christ.

While I do not wish to be respectful to the young men who earnestly believe they are called to some form of monastic life at Silverstream it is the case they are joining a circus that is an emanation of Kirby’s thoroughly misguided understanding of the monastic life.

Many of those monks display an autistic-like obsession to the old mass. They see conspiracy everywhere. I have been to Silverstream. It is impressive in many ways but it is full of odd Americans who I think were probably homeschooled. They are the kind of Yank that sincerely believe that Donald Trump is an agent of God who has messianic mandate to save America. There simply misguided.

If these men were sincere in their belief they would acknowledge publicly the wrongdoing of the founder. However, to do so would be to publicly acknowledge they have been complicit in the fraud and should petition for the suppression of the priory.

Those who wish to remain monks as +Pat wrote to the Bishop of Syracuse should learn French and embrace a more authentic and traditional form of monastic life in France.

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12.42: I thoroughly agree with you. I have argued similarly many times since the Dom Kirny scandal. I’ve been to Silverstream a couple of times before the scandals and was impressed. I found great spiritual comfort there and left feeling at peace. That was the blessing then. Now, I would be reluctant to visit. I agree that the Monks who feel they have a genuine calling to monastic life should now decide to continue elsewhere in more established Benedictine communities. From the beginning this monastery was built on sand. I hope and pray that someone soon will enable the Monks to discern wisely and make a very necessary decision about the suppression of the monastery. Your comment is expressed with great kindness and I believe that the vituperarive, ridiculing and mocking comments about the monks are completely, morally reprehensible. Spiritually, these nasty comments must be a huge inner cross for the Monks. God, bless and guide them wisely. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at this stage to ask for a little charity, considering we know enough of their predicament already. We were always told to remember: SEEK TRUTH WITH CHARITY.

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4;14. Charity and basic justice need to be dealt first to Dom Benedict Andersen, a victim and a whistlblower who is being actively persecuted by the monks of Silverstream and Tom Deenihan.

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Mark Kirby’s sexual exploits are legendary among clergy and religious up and down the Eastern seaboard of the United States. How in the hell was he able to found a monastery in Ireland? 😂

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Kirby/Purcell can act with impunity because they are monks – the monastic habit gives them licence to do what they like with impunity. People expect bad behaviour from diocesan clergy.

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Amy didn’t make that decision. It came from the new Nuncio via Francois and a few others in Roma who are sick of the Irish set up.

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So well informed for somebody so full of shit. You might want it to be true. That doesn’t make it true.

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3.16
Your sequence of events doesn’t make sense. You say Pope Francis was the conduit and the nuncio the source. That’s not how things operate.

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LOLOL silverstream keeps giving.

It doesn’t look good on TD cos his incompetence arose again. How exactly did he become a Bishop as I was told he’s ex Buckley secretary in Cork and Ross diocese.

Just being a secretary for any Bishop was/is a reciepe for any chasing careerist priests out there. That’s the impression we got here.

That young priest was ordained in 2017 then suddenly he wanted to move to TLM as monks correctly 🤷‍♀️.

Ex priest in Virginia at 1.43pm

Is that true that Kirby and his sex exploits?

Any evidence please re 👆 and thanks.

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DG,

What sort of evidence would please you? I have years of hearing stories. Far too many from different individuals for it to be nonsense. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

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Ex priest in virigina at 4.08pm
Like to see any solid evidence on Kirby or any credible evidence or witness.
So you are saying that you heard their stories but nonsensical all the same.
No smoke without a fire is what you are saying right here 🤷‍♀️
But it was you who brought it up re Kirby sex exploits in the first place cos it was legendary.
You believed it then said later its all nonsense 😉🤔.
One thing that struck me was that Ireland is a soft target for abusers cos kirby opted for Ireland.
Why not UK or France or take your pick 😉
I’m curious re what made Kirby plump for Holland?
Was it lack of regulations on abusers or loose or lax rules which would allow them to get away with murder?
BTW, he didn’t return to his home country just like Frankie and why 🤷‍♀️

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DG at 4:08, I did not say the stories were nonsense. Please read carefully. I said I have heard too many similar stories from a wide variety of individuals for the stories to be nonsense. And I have heard them from highly credible individuals in my estimation. In other words, I find them to have a definite ring of truth. Kirby’s covert activities in this part of the world are notorious, pure and simple. If you prefer not to believe, that’s okay. I’m just here to report what I myself have heard.

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DG 3:22, Tony Blair was George Bush’s lapdog. ++Phonsie is the wayward abbot’s lapdog. Fr. Declan Hurley, Fr. Joe Gallagher and Fr. Paul Connell are Fr. Tom Deenihan’s lapdogs. Fr. Tom Deenihan is Dom Mark Kirby’s lapdog.

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Ex priest in Virginia at 6.27pm

Fair enough.

Of course, some elements in the story were nonsense and others has a ring of truth when you heard it.

I’m interested in what your highly credible invividuals and their remarks etc.

Interesting when you say ‘covert activities’ as it suggests secretive on Kirby’s part. What I don’t understand was why wasn’t he DEFROCKED or disciplined in the first place by his then bishops in his homeland. Then he was incardinated to Meath diocese without any blemish on his record if that was the impression we got from this blog.

Cos lot of well known and prominent Catholic figures fell for his book including Burke, Vigano and few others that I don’t recall.

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Seamus viii at 4.59pm

Lapdogs are everywhere especially in politics, religion and business, journalism et al.

What you need is credible evidence or witness to bring TD or kirby down. Just like 4 Scottish priests who did to KOB at the eve of the conclave via the press.

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Pat, would still be good to get your views on the article about Calvin Robinson and the oridnariate church in London it all seems very odd

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Your letter reminds me that I’m thinking of becoming a lawyer to sue every Anglican church by claiming that they must give away their church property since by law they’re registered as a Christian church when they follow no Christian dogma, thus engaging in fraud 😎

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Forget law school, try something more in line with your abilities (and punctuation) like waiting tables.

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4.26
No need to denigrate waiters. We’d be in trouble without them. And the commenter at 4.17 wouldn’t be able to carry a tray. That requires balance.

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4.17
Don’t change your career. Such a comment has shown you up as a person who lacks balance and judgement.

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7.34
Not really a profound comment. Do you mean it was erected over the resting place of his mortal remains?

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7:34 *The* Anglican church?
Tell us you don’t understand how this works without realizing it yourself. 😂

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You have to laugh at the way a bunch of priests who pretend to be celibate but are all at it in gay saunas, have a go at a bloke for wanting to get divorced so did it his own way…. when they’re doing the exact same. 😂

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8.26
His wanting to get a divorce was not the problem. He wanted to remarry while his wife was alive because he thought he could. Clement VII and Paul III stood up to his bullying. He then proceeded with the greatest act of vandalism and barbarism in Britain and Ireland, against his people since the arrival of the Romans: the dissolution of the monasteries and the sequestration of their property to himself.

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When ‘Christians’ like 4:17 are convinced they are right about everything, have the only authority about truth, that everyone else is wrong or Satanic, and things will only get better if they have all the power, we can be certain they are not Christians. They are worshipping themselves, not God.

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Since we’re in the general area of Traddies with this Silverstream wallah Lyons, whatever happened to that trad priest in South London / Southwark, Little something or other ? He was all over the place on YouTube and the internet spouting about Catholic dogma and regurgitating the Catechism verbatim etc like he was some professor lecturing to the intellectually limited seminarians we have these days, while in fact he was still wet behind the ears and barely ordained. Which, I believe took a long time and passing through a number of seminaries. Was it Oscott that eventually passed him ? Wouldn’t surprise me. He’s gone quiet. Maybe he learned his lesson to keep his head low and keep his ridiculously trad behaviour and mutterings to himself. Nothing better than a silent Traddy. Viva Roche !

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Why do so many trad people think they ate better than everyone else! Its not nice. London has a lot of young trads!

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Because that’s the point. They’re better than Catholics in their opinion. They’re not Catholics: rejecting an ecumenical council and going around saying the pope isn’t a pope doesn’t suggest you’re Catholic.

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DG at 7:04,
Great, I’ll be sure to post here on a blog a detailed list of individuals with emails and the full text of their sworn affidavits.
🤡

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I just switched on the wireless to listen to the Moral Maze on Radio 4 and had to switch it off immediately when the announcer said that it was being presented by William Crawley.

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